rofl, i believe in a higher existence, a concept that seems to be above your understanding.
I love it when people talk like this. Especially on forums. If they talked this way in real life we'd all be cracking up. "A Concept above your understanding..." lmfao.
I love it when people talk like this. Especially on forums. If they talked this way in real life we'd all be cracking up. "A Concept above your understanding..." lmfao.
Why? Im confused, your attacking my diction or just generalizing a mysterious sum of peoples...that say "concept and understanding"? Maybe along with trying to get stronger arguments maybe you can expand your vocabulary a bit, just a tad.
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Why? Im confused, your attacking my diction or just generalizing a mysterious sum of peoples...that say "concept and understanding"? Maybe along with trying to get stronger arguments maybe you can expand your vocabulary a bit, just a tad.
I just made a post above that was trying to end this crap from you and here you are posting another tired forum insult. Say aloud with British Accent : "This concept is above your understanding. Try to get better arguments and expand your vocabulary."
Try NOT to be a forum cliche.
I made the post above, not as an argument (I don't know what exactly I would argue with you), but to point out how if we met face to face you wouldn't be saying stupid shit like "This concept is above your understanding", as it would be laughable. It sounds like a kid trying to sound superior rather than an actual point.
Just drop the BS and deal with the fact that I made light of your primitive beliefs and move on.
I just made a post above that was trying to end this crap from you and here you are posting another tired forum insult. "This concept is above your understanding. Try to get better arguments and expand your vocabulary."
Try NOT to be a forum cliche.
I made the post above, not as an argument (I don't know what exactly I would argue with you), but to point out how if we met face to face you wouldn't be saying stupid shit like "This concept is above your understanding", as it would be laughable. It sounds like a kid trying to sound superior rather than an actual point.
Just drop the BS and deal with the fact that I made light of your primitive beliefs and move on.
You do realize your being hypocritical right? You talk about my insults but yet you insult what i believe in.
And now I'll address your points on how I speak.
Do I talk like that ALL the time? Of course not.
But still in person do i speak with very precise word choice in any situation where I am arguing, discussing, or doing anything else where my choice of words could be called into play? Yes, when in discussion I always speak with intelligence, and when I do nobody laughs because everyone speaks the same way as they understand the importance of it in discussion.
Here let me insult you with a generalization.
People that believe the concept of intelligent design and a higher intelligence to be primitive have undeveloped brains. It's not that the idea of a god is a primitive idea, it is merely too abstract for some tiny brains to understand.
It's abstract in that it reaches past our understanding of existence. But people like you never question your own understanding of existence and go through life thinking everyone around you are absolute morons when really the joke is on you.
The idea of RELIGION even is not bad, although the name in association brings up bad thoughts. Itis supposed to be the cause of a lot of death and suffering. But is it religions fault? Thats silly, how can something be the fault of the concept?
IT CAN'T. Its the misconception of people with undeveloped brains, a concept can't make you kill someone. It's PEOPLE that do this. PEOPLE cause the wars. PEOPLE just dont wanna admit it so they use religion as a crutch to blame their shortcomings. There are a lot of people with bad intentions in religion, but there are also a lot of bad atheists. Also, there are a lot of good people that folow religion however misguided or not, and there are good atheists that are decent people. It all depends on the people, not the concept.
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Alien, last time I checked, is anyone who lives not on Earth, so, angels would be aliens if they existed.
I mean, we call people from other countries aliens.
I have some aliens in my neighborhood actually. Are they angels? lol
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You do realize your being hypocritical right? You talk about my insults but yet you insult what i believe in.
I didn't insult it. It's a differing opinion than yours. Get over it.
But still in person do i speak with very precise word choice in any situation where I am arguing, discussing, or doing anything else where my choice of words could be called into play? Yes, when in discussion I always speak with intelligence, and when I do nobody laughs because everyone speaks the same way as they understand the importance of it in discussion.
Sorry, but because you got personal about how "intelligently you speak" I'm going to get personal on you. Thanks for the speech about you, but to be honest, and I'm a published writer telling you this, you don't come across as very intelligent to me. You misunderstand basic humor tossed at you and respond with the vocabulary of a child who wants to try to sound like they have an advanced education. I've seen your exact phrasing many a time on many a forum and even your train of thought that led you to instantly insult me and talk like a bad British T.V. villain. It felt childish. I asked you to let it go. You're still adding to the pile.
Here let me insult you with a generalization.
People that believe the concept of intelligent design and a higher intelligence to be primitive have undeveloped brains. It's not that the idea of a god is a primitive idea, it is merely too abstract for some tiny brains to understand.
It's abstract in that it reaches past our understanding of existence. But people like you never question your own understanding of existence and go through life thinking everyone around you are absolute morons when really the joke is on you.
The idea of RELIGION even is not bad, although the name in association brings up bad thoughts. Itis supposed to be the cause of a lot of death and suffering. But is it religions fault? Thats silly, how can something be the fault of the concept?
IT CAN'T. Its the misconception of people with under developed brains, a concept can't make you kill someone. It's PEOPLE that do this. PEOPLE cause the wars. PEOPLE just dont wanna admit it so they use religion as a crutch to blame their shortcomings. There are a lot of people with bad intentions in religion, but there are also a lot of bad atheists. Also, there are a lot of good people that folow religion however misguided or not, and there are good atheists that are decent people. It all depends on the people, not the concept.
Wow. I just got a lecture on religion from a kid. You even mentioned "tiny brains". I remember having these conversations in 8th grade with my friends.
Guess what? Have you and your obscenely intelligent mind ever pondered if it is the other way around? Let me explain: Have you ever wondered if there aren't people with "big brains" and people with "tiny brains", but that the human mind simply can't grasp the entire notion of a higher being in the true sense of the term? That comprehending a God is something that none of us can actually achieve though we may try?
I didn't insult it. It's a differing opinion than yours. Get over it.
Sorry, but because you got personal about how "intelligently you speak" I'm going to get personal on you. Thanks for the speech about you, but to be honest, and I'm a published writer telling you this, you don't come across as very intelligent to me. You misunderstand basic humor tossed at you and respond with the vocabulary of a child who wants to try to sound like they have an advanced education. I've seen your exact phrasing many a time on many a forum and even your train of thought that led you to instantly insult me and talk like a bad British T.V. villain. It felt childish. I asked you to let it go. You're still adding to the pile.
Wow. I just got a lecture on religion from a kid. You even mentioned "tiny brains". I remember having these conversations in 8th grade with my friends.
Guess what? Have you and your obscenely intelligent mind ever pondered if it is the other way around? Let me explain: Have you ever wondered if there aren't people with "big brains" and people with "tiny brains", but that the human mind simply can't grasp the entire notion of a higher being in the true sense of the term? That comprehending a God is something that none of us can actually achieve though we may try?
btw, I really want to know how old you are. Mind telling me?
You don't even know when your insulting someone. It's that condescending attitude that makes it an insult. I never claimed to have a higher education, i SAID, in a place like this, if you want to be taken serious you can't throw out insulting one liners and expect a positive retort.
Throughout this ENTIRE post your telling me you don't see the hypocrisy? You suggest that I'm the child trying to act intelligent when all I am doing is choosing my words carefully and now your the one trying to impress us with your big hefty published writer titles rofl. That ENTIRE post was incredibly condescending.
Fine I'll be a man here, I don't have PERFECT vocabulary and i can't conjure such mystifying words as ebullience, flagrant, emollient, astute, assiduous and so on. But NOT MANY PEOPLE WILL KNOW WHAT THEY MEAN. When I type, I use an educated diction, but at the same time, it is one that most can understand. Do you know the main reason certain tv shows, certain comics, certain commercials, etc fail? Because their idea and message does not get comprehended by the majority of the demographic that it is intended for.
Yes I have considered the possibility of such a thought and it is VERY logical, and in essence it is mostly truth. But that doesn't mean that the concept of a god is false by any means. Who are we to put in our opinion if there is a god in existence? With all our infinite knowledge of the universe we should rightly be able to make that decision I am sure (sarcasm) But since you feel George Carlin is the greatest thing since sliced bread then be my guest and post up some more Carline stuff, he is a funny guy.
And no i did not lecture you on religion, I would be wasting my time because I SERIOUSLY doubt someone like you would feel such a read even worthy of your creative mind. If you would like to delve into a RELIGIOUS discussion then be my guest.
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You don't even know when your insulting someone. It's that condescending attitude that makes it an insult. I never claimed to have a higher education, i SAID, in a place like this, if you want to be taken serious you can't throw out insulting one liners and expect a positive retort.
You took one sentence I wrote about angels and zombies personally and decided to attack. Who asked for a positive retort? If anything I asked for you to laugh and move on.
Throughout this ENTIRE post your telling me you don't see the hypocrisy? You suggest that I'm the child trying to act intelligent when all I am doing is choosing my words carefully and now your the one trying to impress us with your big hefty published writer titles rofl. That ENTIRE post was incredibly condescending.
Yes, it was condescending. Nothing escapes you. You come across as a child. Sorry, but that's how it is when you attack someone and tell them that they don't have the same level of comprehension as you do.
Fine I'll be a man here, I don't have PERFECT vocabulary and i can't conjure such mystifying words as ebullience, flagrant, emollient, astute, assiduous and so on. But NOT MANY PEOPLE WILL KNOW WHAT THEY MEAN. When I type, I use an educated diction, but at the same time, it is one that most can understand. Do you know the main reason certain tv shows, certain comics, certain commercials, etc fail? Because their idea and message does not get comprehended by the majority of the demographic that it is intended for.
Brilliant explaination. I'm so glad that you dumbed yourself down so that I could understand you... especially while you were talking about how I don't understand the concept of a higher being.
Yes I have considered the possibility of such a thought and it is VERY logical, and in essence it is mostly truth. But that doesn't mean that the concept of a god is false by any means.
No one said it did.
And no i did not lecture you on religion, I would be wasting my time because I SERIOUSLY doubt someone like you would feel such a read even worthy of your creative mind. If you would like to delve into a RELIGIOUS discussion then be my guest.
Your post above seemed to slide into a tangent on Religion. Please don't do it again, heheh. I don't care what you think about it. I just felt like pointing out some of the BS you were throwing. :thumbsup:
Oh, i just thought of a question I've been meaning to ask. Not trying to make a point or anything like that but ya...I know someone can put up a Einstein quote on how this came about but that doesn't do it for me one bit.
IF there truly was no god, what would lead people to believe in a god in the first place? Why do we have all these religions and such if the logical explanation for it all is to not believe in a god because we have no proof? If there was never a god there would certainly be no proof for them. It's like, people that do have that "faith" do so because they feel that waayyy back in the day, people DID see things like angels, demons, and the red sea splitting apart. And maybe some giant ass angel/human babies courtesy of The Book Of Enoch (not in the bible). But if non of this stuff actually HAPPENED way back in the day then what did they believe in? There was no, ancient people before them, they WERE the ancient people.
If evolution was correct at first it may seem plausable that a cave man would see things in the sky and be like " CRUG SAY IT BE GOD!" but that doesn't make sense when you really think about it. If their brains were evolving and if there was no god then it would be an illogical concept that would be untrue and have no purpose in evolution, so if they EVOLVED then why did they come up with this "primitive concept"?
And then there's this question. People were smart during the Renaissance, when they all decided the catholic church SUCKED why didn't they do away with the whole concept. If it's logical for humans to believe religion to be false why didn't they logically think it out then and get rid of it? If humans were evolving then also our concepts would, but apparently we have ALWAYS had the same concepts of religion.
Lets go with the bible for a sec, why would they lie about say....seeing an angel or something. I dont think that would happen, all those writings obviously seem heart felt and honest. Why was there a period of sooo many people writing about all these incredible sittings? Why wouldn't it ALWAYS happen if it was all just mental insanity? I dont think that many people could be crazy, it seems improbable.
So ya, basically the main question has been stated, why did we develop religion if there is nothing there?
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My original post about the zombie thing was also supposed to be taken in light.
I'll take your word for it though it seems odd that someone would make a joke like after they've felt offended by someone else's statement. You clearly were.
When you say that i claimed that i dumbed it down
It was a joke, poking fun at you.
And you implied that the concept was primitive and dumb, and i said it wasn't, you said nobody said that, but you certainly gave the implications that you did.
Be quiet. The concept of a god is a primitive idea. I thought someone with your massive arsenal of diction would get that.
But continuous sarcasm and saying " YOUR CHILDISH!!!!" isn't going to help the fact that you didn't post anything of significance. It may have been intended to be light hearted but we have too much of that here.
Be quiet. I posted my belief. It had enough significance to put you on the attack and since then I called for you to drop it, and poked fun at you for your crappy impersonation of a bad British T.V. villain. I don't care if you think people are "too lighthearted" around here either - that's on you. So of course I'm calling you out as a kid and I'll be sarcastic as you try to turn what an ass you were around on me and try to convince yourself that you had something to contribute by telling me that a "concept is above" me and that I need to enhance my vocabulary. Why wouldn't I do that?
So ya, basically the main question has been stated, why did we develop religion if there is nothing there?
(You did it again. You went off on a tangent that no one cares about.) We developed GODS to explain away things that we had no real explanation for back in the day, i.e. Rains and lightning were Zeus. Winds were the breath of this God and fire was the doing of that God,...blah blah blah. But as for Religion we developed that for many reasons, but not because there is a God. That's logical fallacy on your part. Either way I don't really care what you believe - just don't badger me with crappy forum insults like "The concept is above you", etc. and we'll be good.
I'll take your word for it though it seems odd that someone would make a joke like after they've felt offended by someone else's statement. You clearly were.
It was a joke, poking fun at you.
Be quiet. The concept of a god is a primitive idea. I thought someone with your massive arsenal of diction would get that.
Be quiet. I posted my belief. It had enough significance to put you on the attack and since then I called for you to drop it, and poked fun at you for your crappy impersonation of a bad British T.V. villain. I don't care if you think people are "too lighthearted" around here either - that's on you. So of course I'm calling you out as a kid and I'll be sarcastic as you try to turn what an ass you were around on me and try to convince yourself that you had something to contribute by telling me that a "concept is above" me and that I need to enhance my vocabulary. Why wouldn't I do that?
(You did it again. You went off on a tangent that no one cares about.) We developed GODS to explain away things that we had no real explanation for back in the day, i.e. Rains and lightning were Zeus. Winds were the breath of this God and fire was the doing of that God,...blah blah blah. But as for Religion we developed that for many reasons, but not because there is a God. That's logical fallacy on your part. Either way I don't really care what you believe - just don't badger me with crappy forum insults like "The concept is above you", etc. and we'll be good.
Rofl, im sorry, other people may be able to critique me but certainly not someone as rude as you. You didn't actually ever post a belief you just mocked mine. And no i wont "be quiet" because it is a forum i can say w/e i please tyvm.
I didnt say people are too light hearted, this specific thread was for discussion, not jokes,being lighthearted is one thing, but posting poor(as in not funny) jokes, no scratch that, even if they are funny they are still not really appropriate and are :spam:.
if you wana do that go post in the other noob threads where they do the same thing.
And dont get pissed off if someone calls you stupid or says something must go over your head if you come in here posting stupid comments. Its your very own fault for leaving the impression of an moron.
No it wasn't going off on a tangent, i was geting back on the broad topic. And sorry to tell you but that explanation is the same garbage everyone says. You have no proof of it. Einstein said the same thing, but just cuz he's Einstein doesn't mean he's right. Nor you or he ever gave reasoning and proof on this to be fact. I think it is all speculation and opinion. And it was never answered why the conclusion of no god was met during the renaissance period either.
Meh, after this post I'm just gonna drop it and let you have the last word, this is going nowhere as we go back and forth, you call me a kid and i call you a noob and repeat.
Note to whoever is reading this, I'm not trying to leave so that i seem like the "better" person, i hate when people do that, im just dropping it because it is going nowhere and ARGUING about this over the computer takes too long, I'd rather hear something truly noteworthy on this thread because ( TO THE MODS) this entire argument should be deleted for being pretty much off topic rofl.
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Rofl, im sorry, other people may be able to critique me but certainly not someone as rude as you. You didn't actually ever post a belief you just mocked mine. And no i wont "be quiet" because it is a forum i can say w/e i please tyvm.
I didnt say people are too light hearted, this specific thread was for discussion, not jokes,being lighthearted is one thing, but posting poor(as in not funny) jokes, no scratch that, even if they are funny they are still not really appropriate and are :spam:.
if you wana do that go post in the other noob threads where they do the same thing.
And dont get pissed off if someone calls you stupid or says something must go over your head if you come in here posting stupid comments. Its your very own fault for leaving the impression of an moron.
No it wasn't going off on a tangent, i was geting back on the broad topic. And sorry to tell you but that explanation is the same garbage everyone says. You have no proof of it. Einstein said the same thing, but just cuz he's Einstein doesn't mean he's right. Nor you or he ever gave reasoning and proof on this to be fact. I think it is all speculation and opinion. And it was never answered why the conclusion of no god was met during the renaissance period either.
Meh, after this post I'm just gonna drop it and let you have the last word, this is going nowhere as we go back and forth, you call me a kid and i call you a noob and repeat.
Note to whoever is reading this, I'm not trying to leave so that i seem like the "better" person, i hate when people do that, im just dropping it because it is going nowhere and ARGUING about this over the computer takes too long, I'd rather hear something truly noteworthy on this thread because ( TO THE MODS) this entire argument should be deleted for being pretty much off topic rofl.
Thanks for finally dropping it like I asked many, many posts ago.
The things you wrote above were asinine, and even contradicts things you said earlier but I'm not going to waste energy on a guy who seems like an 8th grader trying to educate me on how I have "no proof" that man invented Gods to explain things...lol.
You also clearly have a lot more living and learning to do and I wish you luck.
And I stand by my belief/comment that if you believe in angels then you should also believe in zombies and goblins. If you don't like it,...think of another goofy insult to hurl my way about how I have a tiny brain and then drone on and on about how rude I am...lmao.
Sided with Umpa here... and being a writer doesn't make you any better than anyone else.
Ty Equinox. I appreciate the reassurance. Have you ever felt like you were being as civil as possible but it kept geting pushed and then YOU started to feel like an asshole? rofl, thats why im not going to post much in here anymore.
But, anyway i still want an answer. I really want someone with psychology experience, maybe some classes in college or even high school, im open for it.
IF there was no such things as angels why did so many of the bible writers speak of them? The only logical conclusion i could come to on that if there wasn't a god would be that all of them hallucinated in one way or another that they saw those things. But, ok heres an even better one. Moses saw the burning bush, it talked to him, it gave it's name. Hundreds of years later other people were approached by some supernatural force given the same name of a creator. The only way i think these kinds of things can be proven as false, actually, defended as false would be to simply say they are all lies! That is like saying for religious people that when someone dies God needs another angel in heaven, just as much a stretch on either side to me.
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IF there was no such things as angels why did so many of the bible writers speak of them? The only logical conclusion i could come to on that if there wasn't a god would be that all of them hallucinated in one way or another that they saw those things. But, ok heres an even better one. Moses saw the burning bush, it talked to him, it gave it's name. Hundreds of years later other people were approached by some supernatural force given the same name of a creator. The only way i think these kinds of things can be proven as false, actually, defended as false would be to simply say they are all lies! That is like saying for religious people that when someone dies God needs another angel in heaven, just as much a stretch on either side to me.
No the logical conclusion would be that a group of people decided to make up some stuff to help them get a point across and also that during the numerous rewritings and translations that certain people who want to see patterns where there are none altered things so that "random meteor" became "angel" and "random sun beam through cloud" became "angel" etc.
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Creep, thanks for those video links, haven't seen them before and haven't had a good laugh in a while!
Ty Equinox. I appreciate the reassurance. Have you ever felt like you were being as civil as possible but it kept geting pushed and then YOU started to feel like an asshole? rofl, thats why im not going to post much in here anymore.
But, anyway i still want an answer. I really want someone with psychology experience, maybe some classes in college or even high school, im open for it.
IF there was no such things as angels why did so many of the bible writers speak of them? The only logical conclusion i could come to on that if there wasn't a god would be that all of them hallucinated in one way or another that they saw those things. But, ok heres an even better one. Moses saw the burning bush, it talked to him, it gave it's name. Hundreds of years later other people were approached by some supernatural force given the same name of a creator. The only way i think these kinds of things can be proven as false, actually, defended as false would be to simply say they are all lies! That is like saying for religious people that when someone dies God needs another angel in heaven, just as much a stretch on either side to me.
the bush was a pot bush lol.
seriously though, you cant take the bible literally. angels are said to be messengers and guardians, those two descriptions have multiple meanings to multiple people. also in a more logical standpoint, when a 'miracle' or un-worldly event happens, and no one knows the cause because of knowledge limitations, the give a divine shading to it.
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I love it when people talk like this. Especially on forums. If they talked this way in real life we'd all be cracking up. "A Concept above your understanding..." lmfao.
Why? Im confused, your attacking my diction or just generalizing a mysterious sum of peoples...that say "concept and understanding"? Maybe along with trying to get stronger arguments maybe you can expand your vocabulary a bit, just a tad.
-Equinox
"We're like the downtown of the Diablo related internet lol"
-Winged
I just made a post above that was trying to end this crap from you and here you are posting another tired forum insult. Say aloud with British Accent : "This concept is above your understanding. Try to get better arguments and expand your vocabulary."
Try NOT to be a forum cliche.
I made the post above, not as an argument (I don't know what exactly I would argue with you), but to point out how if we met face to face you wouldn't be saying stupid shit like "This concept is above your understanding", as it would be laughable. It sounds like a kid trying to sound superior rather than an actual point.
Just drop the BS and deal with the fact that I made light of your primitive beliefs and move on.
You do realize your being hypocritical right? You talk about my insults but yet you insult what i believe in.
And now I'll address your points on how I speak.
Do I talk like that ALL the time? Of course not.
But still in person do i speak with very precise word choice in any situation where I am arguing, discussing, or doing anything else where my choice of words could be called into play? Yes, when in discussion I always speak with intelligence, and when I do nobody laughs because everyone speaks the same way as they understand the importance of it in discussion.
Here let me insult you with a generalization.
People that believe the concept of intelligent design and a higher intelligence to be primitive have undeveloped brains. It's not that the idea of a god is a primitive idea, it is merely too abstract for some tiny brains to understand.
It's abstract in that it reaches past our understanding of existence. But people like you never question your own understanding of existence and go through life thinking everyone around you are absolute morons when really the joke is on you.
The idea of RELIGION even is not bad, although the name in association brings up bad thoughts. Itis supposed to be the cause of a lot of death and suffering. But is it religions fault? Thats silly, how can something be the fault of the concept?
IT CAN'T. Its the misconception of people with undeveloped brains, a concept can't make you kill someone. It's PEOPLE that do this. PEOPLE cause the wars. PEOPLE just dont wanna admit it so they use religion as a crutch to blame their shortcomings. There are a lot of people with bad intentions in religion, but there are also a lot of bad atheists. Also, there are a lot of good people that folow religion however misguided or not, and there are good atheists that are decent people. It all depends on the people, not the concept.
-Equinox
"We're like the downtown of the Diablo related internet lol"
-Winged
I mean, we call people from other countries aliens.
I have some aliens in my neighborhood actually. Are they angels? lol
-Equinox
"We're like the downtown of the Diablo related internet lol"
-Winged
-From the ancient proverbs of Equinox
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-Equinox
"We're like the downtown of the Diablo related internet lol"
-Winged
I didn't insult it. It's a differing opinion than yours. Get over it.
Sorry, but because you got personal about how "intelligently you speak" I'm going to get personal on you. Thanks for the speech about you, but to be honest, and I'm a published writer telling you this, you don't come across as very intelligent to me. You misunderstand basic humor tossed at you and respond with the vocabulary of a child who wants to try to sound like they have an advanced education. I've seen your exact phrasing many a time on many a forum and even your train of thought that led you to instantly insult me and talk like a bad British T.V. villain. It felt childish. I asked you to let it go. You're still adding to the pile.
Wow. I just got a lecture on religion from a kid. You even mentioned "tiny brains". I remember having these conversations in 8th grade with my friends.
Guess what? Have you and your obscenely intelligent mind ever pondered if it is the other way around? Let me explain: Have you ever wondered if there aren't people with "big brains" and people with "tiny brains", but that the human mind simply can't grasp the entire notion of a higher being in the true sense of the term? That comprehending a God is something that none of us can actually achieve though we may try?
Either way - here are some more lolz: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=I_Bw6yj5RX4
I think Carlin even nails some of the discombobulated things you said above.
btw, I really want to know how old you are. Mind telling me?
You don't even know when your insulting someone. It's that condescending attitude that makes it an insult. I never claimed to have a higher education, i SAID, in a place like this, if you want to be taken serious you can't throw out insulting one liners and expect a positive retort.
Throughout this ENTIRE post your telling me you don't see the hypocrisy? You suggest that I'm the child trying to act intelligent when all I am doing is choosing my words carefully and now your the one trying to impress us with your big hefty published writer titles rofl. That ENTIRE post was incredibly condescending.
Fine I'll be a man here, I don't have PERFECT vocabulary and i can't conjure such mystifying words as ebullience, flagrant, emollient, astute, assiduous and so on. But NOT MANY PEOPLE WILL KNOW WHAT THEY MEAN. When I type, I use an educated diction, but at the same time, it is one that most can understand. Do you know the main reason certain tv shows, certain comics, certain commercials, etc fail? Because their idea and message does not get comprehended by the majority of the demographic that it is intended for.
Yes I have considered the possibility of such a thought and it is VERY logical, and in essence it is mostly truth. But that doesn't mean that the concept of a god is false by any means. Who are we to put in our opinion if there is a god in existence? With all our infinite knowledge of the universe we should rightly be able to make that decision I am sure (sarcasm) But since you feel George Carlin is the greatest thing since sliced bread then be my guest and post up some more Carline stuff, he is a funny guy.
And no i did not lecture you on religion, I would be wasting my time because I SERIOUSLY doubt someone like you would feel such a read even worthy of your creative mind. If you would like to delve into a RELIGIOUS discussion then be my guest.
-Equinox
"We're like the downtown of the Diablo related internet lol"
-Winged
You took one sentence I wrote about angels and zombies personally and decided to attack. Who asked for a positive retort? If anything I asked for you to laugh and move on.
Yes, it was condescending. Nothing escapes you. You come across as a child. Sorry, but that's how it is when you attack someone and tell them that they don't have the same level of comprehension as you do.
Brilliant explaination. I'm so glad that you dumbed yourself down so that I could understand you... especially while you were talking about how I don't understand the concept of a higher being.
No one said it did.
Your post above seemed to slide into a tangent on Religion. Please don't do it again, heheh. I don't care what you think about it. I just felt like pointing out some of the BS you were throwing. :thumbsup:
IF there truly was no god, what would lead people to believe in a god in the first place? Why do we have all these religions and such if the logical explanation for it all is to not believe in a god because we have no proof? If there was never a god there would certainly be no proof for them. It's like, people that do have that "faith" do so because they feel that waayyy back in the day, people DID see things like angels, demons, and the red sea splitting apart. And maybe some giant ass angel/human babies courtesy of The Book Of Enoch (not in the bible). But if non of this stuff actually HAPPENED way back in the day then what did they believe in? There was no, ancient people before them, they WERE the ancient people.
If evolution was correct at first it may seem plausable that a cave man would see things in the sky and be like " CRUG SAY IT BE GOD!" but that doesn't make sense when you really think about it. If their brains were evolving and if there was no god then it would be an illogical concept that would be untrue and have no purpose in evolution, so if they EVOLVED then why did they come up with this "primitive concept"?
And then there's this question. People were smart during the Renaissance, when they all decided the catholic church SUCKED why didn't they do away with the whole concept. If it's logical for humans to believe religion to be false why didn't they logically think it out then and get rid of it? If humans were evolving then also our concepts would, but apparently we have ALWAYS had the same concepts of religion.
Lets go with the bible for a sec, why would they lie about say....seeing an angel or something. I dont think that would happen, all those writings obviously seem heart felt and honest. Why was there a period of sooo many people writing about all these incredible sittings? Why wouldn't it ALWAYS happen if it was all just mental insanity? I dont think that many people could be crazy, it seems improbable.
So ya, basically the main question has been stated, why did we develop religion if there is nothing there?
-Equinox
"We're like the downtown of the Diablo related internet lol"
-Winged
I'll take your word for it though it seems odd that someone would make a joke like after they've felt offended by someone else's statement. You clearly were.
It was a joke, poking fun at you.
Be quiet. The concept of a god is a primitive idea. I thought someone with your massive arsenal of diction would get that.
Be quiet. I posted my belief. It had enough significance to put you on the attack and since then I called for you to drop it, and poked fun at you for your crappy impersonation of a bad British T.V. villain. I don't care if you think people are "too lighthearted" around here either - that's on you. So of course I'm calling you out as a kid and I'll be sarcastic as you try to turn what an ass you were around on me and try to convince yourself that you had something to contribute by telling me that a "concept is above" me and that I need to enhance my vocabulary. Why wouldn't I do that?
(You did it again. You went off on a tangent that no one cares about.) We developed GODS to explain away things that we had no real explanation for back in the day, i.e. Rains and lightning were Zeus. Winds were the breath of this God and fire was the doing of that God,...blah blah blah. But as for Religion we developed that for many reasons, but not because there is a God. That's logical fallacy on your part. Either way I don't really care what you believe - just don't badger me with crappy forum insults like "The concept is above you", etc. and we'll be good.
Rofl, im sorry, other people may be able to critique me but certainly not someone as rude as you. You didn't actually ever post a belief you just mocked mine. And no i wont "be quiet" because it is a forum i can say w/e i please tyvm.
I didnt say people are too light hearted, this specific thread was for discussion, not jokes,being lighthearted is one thing, but posting poor(as in not funny) jokes, no scratch that, even if they are funny they are still not really appropriate and are :spam:.
if you wana do that go post in the other noob threads where they do the same thing.
And dont get pissed off if someone calls you stupid or says something must go over your head if you come in here posting stupid comments. Its your very own fault for leaving the impression of an moron.
No it wasn't going off on a tangent, i was geting back on the broad topic. And sorry to tell you but that explanation is the same garbage everyone says. You have no proof of it. Einstein said the same thing, but just cuz he's Einstein doesn't mean he's right. Nor you or he ever gave reasoning and proof on this to be fact. I think it is all speculation and opinion. And it was never answered why the conclusion of no god was met during the renaissance period either.
Meh, after this post I'm just gonna drop it and let you have the last word, this is going nowhere as we go back and forth, you call me a kid and i call you a noob and repeat.
Note to whoever is reading this, I'm not trying to leave so that i seem like the "better" person, i hate when people do that, im just dropping it because it is going nowhere and ARGUING about this over the computer takes too long, I'd rather hear something truly noteworthy on this thread because ( TO THE MODS) this entire argument should be deleted for being pretty much off topic rofl.
-Equinox
"We're like the downtown of the Diablo related internet lol"
-Winged
Thanks for finally dropping it like I asked many, many posts ago.
The things you wrote above were asinine, and even contradicts things you said earlier but I'm not going to waste energy on a guy who seems like an 8th grader trying to educate me on how I have "no proof" that man invented Gods to explain things...lol.
You also clearly have a lot more living and learning to do and I wish you luck.
And I stand by my belief/comment that if you believe in angels then you should also believe in zombies and goblins. If you don't like it,...think of another goofy insult to hurl my way about how I have a tiny brain and then drone on and on about how rude I am...lmao.
Ty Equinox. I appreciate the reassurance. Have you ever felt like you were being as civil as possible but it kept geting pushed and then YOU started to feel like an asshole? rofl, thats why im not going to post much in here anymore.
But, anyway i still want an answer. I really want someone with psychology experience, maybe some classes in college or even high school, im open for it.
IF there was no such things as angels why did so many of the bible writers speak of them? The only logical conclusion i could come to on that if there wasn't a god would be that all of them hallucinated in one way or another that they saw those things. But, ok heres an even better one. Moses saw the burning bush, it talked to him, it gave it's name. Hundreds of years later other people were approached by some supernatural force given the same name of a creator. The only way i think these kinds of things can be proven as false, actually, defended as false would be to simply say they are all lies! That is like saying for religious people that when someone dies God needs another angel in heaven, just as much a stretch on either side to me.
-Equinox
"We're like the downtown of the Diablo related internet lol"
-Winged
No the logical conclusion would be that a group of people decided to make up some stuff to help them get a point across and also that during the numerous rewritings and translations that certain people who want to see patterns where there are none altered things so that "random meteor" became "angel" and "random sun beam through cloud" became "angel" etc.
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Creep, thanks for those video links, haven't seen them before and haven't had a good laugh in a while!
seriously though, you cant take the bible literally. angels are said to be messengers and guardians, those two descriptions have multiple meanings to multiple people. also in a more logical standpoint, when a 'miracle' or un-worldly event happens, and no one knows the cause because of knowledge limitations, the give a divine shading to it.
"to the worm in horseradish, the world is horseradish."