not in a movie, but it is pretty stupid to assume that it doesnt, diablos and mephistos were smashed (in the final movie of D2)
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If your hinting at a Tyrael is evil in d3 plot line please stop.
im getting pretty sick of these, wow so and so from the previous game is now evil and i have to kill them. how lame is that. why is it when in regards to possible storylines for d3, such and such a character from the previous game is now evil or corrupt is all it seems anyone can come up with?
heres a few ideas i had, yeh i mention Tyrael being corrupt, but only because it illustrates a point.
-with the worldstone gone demons are more free to enter the world of sanctuary, this is how more powerful demon lords (act bosses of sorts) can come through
-as both demons and angels can enter the others realm, I think more demons and angels should be present at the gates to each area, they are suppose to be lock in eternal combat, yet only one angel was in hell possibly fighting demons on their own turf
-the last two lesser evil Belial Lord of Lies and Azmodan Lord of Sin elude us still
-the eternal battle between the High Heavens and the Burning Hells is still raging
-the prime evils returning (or just diablo) without their soulstones as they arent needed for the prime evils to exist
-something about Tyrael, is he corrupted? (Kinda been done before, a lot) is he banished from heaven? It may just be me but arent angels forbidden from major influences on mankind or something like that, I forget what it says in the text regards the lore of angels in diablo
-Of course if tyrael is corrupted shouldn’t at least one of the seven player chars from d2 also be corrupted, they spent more time in the vicinity of the corrupted worldstone than tyrael did, and im not counting nightmare and hell, unless tyrael is corrupted thru having shards of the worldstone enter his body when he smashed it.
-tie up any loose ends from the diablo series not that I can think of any right now but there is probably a few, mostly to do with tyrael I believe
-the angel inarius, he could perhaps be set free from his prison of mirrors to seek revenge on the prime evils or something
-tie in with the diablo novels some how
-something with Deckard cain is he still alive, he is getting old, but for some people it would feel like diablo without him.
-some mention of the heroes of d2/d2lod, perhaps you could find part of there armor of course the set would have a name like Unknown Barbarian heroes…. or something
-you could find out that cain is not the last of the horadrim, there is another, most likely an evil mage or sorts, you kill him then inform cain he once again is the last of the horadrim, cain has a wet eye.
-if a playable char returns in d3 like the chars from d1 did in d2, have more of a storyline for them, not just the ‘oh xchar is now a monster I have to kill’
-several powerful demons that have been defeated in the previous games could make a return thru some kind of resurrection/summoning spell, similar to the one Baal used to bring the warlord of blood (bartuc the bloody) back to life
-A civil war could break out in Hell, between Belial and Azmodan as they both vie for Ruler of Hell
-If D3 is a prequel, you should be able to be involved in the Binding of the three, or the Sin War, or any other event in the diablo History, such as the Blackening of King Leoric (well maybe not that one thats a little recent compared to the Binding of the three and the Sin War)
-D3 could be set a short while after the events of LOD and Hell has taken over and you must try to reclaim the World of Sanctuary and possibly Heaven.
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If you ask me, if an angel can be corrupt he wouldn't be an angel in the first place. There was some angel in Act 4 that was, though, ahem... :rolleyes:
Inarius was an angel that left Heaven to make his own realm (didnt loose his angelic features though). The Prime Evils were banished from the world of Sanctuary but with the destruction of the worldstone the human realm could easily merge with the one of the Angels and Demons. 2 lesser evils on the loose and a good chance to get the Prime Evils back - we dont know what happened of Duriel and Andariel that didnt have a soulstone of their own.
Inarius definitely no longer looks angelic. infact he is suppose to look like the butcher or other overlords from d1. read the d1 manual.
FingolfinGR there is no proof that the lesser evils had or didnt have soulstones if thats what your hinting at. but i dont think they did.
i would expect Belial and Azmodan to be involved some how with the storyline. they are after all the current rulers of Hell.
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If you ask me, if an angel can be corrupt he wouldn't be an angel in the first place. There was some angel in Act 4 that was, though, ahem... :rolleyes:
More importantly though, if an angel can become corrupt, then a pure demon must be able to become good/holy.
A very safe bet though is that Azmodan and Belial will make some sort of appearance, in company with at least Diablo and maybe his two brothers.
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I don't think its safe to say that because I don't think that angels are demons are completely polar opposites to each other. But I see your point.
Not doing so though indicates that the angels are weaker and lesser, and also following the wrong cause. If they can stray, but evil cannot, what does that indicate?
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Interesting ideas, Elfen. I'd like to commentate on some of them if you don't mind.
-with the worldstone gone demons are more free to enter the world of sanctuary, this is how more powerful demon lords (act bosses of sorts) can come through This is the biggest issue with Diablo that escapes me. I was always so positive that the purpose of destroying the Worldstone was to prevent both demons and angels from interferring with Sanctuary again. While I know everyone insists that was not the case, I just don't understand why he would do it if it meant demons could enter more easily. Yes, Baal corrupted it, but he was also destroyed...so I didn't see what the problem was.
-as both demons and angels can enter the others realm, I think more demons and angels should be present at the gates to each area, they are suppose to be lock in eternal combat, yet only one angel was in hell possibly fighting demons on their own turf
-the last two lesser evil Belial Lord of Lies and Azmodan Lord of Sin elude us still I was always intrigued by these other lesser evils that you didn't hear as much about. Not only these two, but I'm reminded of Kabraxis from The Black Road; I don't think Blizzard would be shy about simply creating new demons and contriving some story for them to put in a new game. But I'll give their story developers credit for whatever device they use as not being contrived.
-the eternal battle between the High Heavens and the Burning Hells is still raging Yes, and I suppose without this key element in the story, there probably would be nothing more to base the game on. So it might be interesting even if they continued this story but instead of Sanctuary, have it on a new front, maybe a different world created by a renegade angel or even another dimension. But I suppose you'd want something more like a world for some sense of normality.
-the prime evils returning (or just diablo) without their soulstones as they arent needed for the prime evils to exist To be honest, this concept kind of saddens me, but just because I thought they had good reason to bring Diablo back in the second game, but I'd hate to think of having to fight Diablo a third time. Otherwise, I'd just feel like what's the point of killing him if he can't stay dead.
-something about Tyrael, is he corrupted? (Kinda been done before, a lot) is he banished from heaven? It may just be me but arent angels forbidden from major influences on mankind or something like that, I forget what it says in the text regards the lore of angels in diablo It would definitely be interesting to if perhaps you could fight an angel in Diablo. Talking about a corrupted arch angel makes me think of how cool it might be if you played campaigns in Diablo just like you would in Warcraft and Starcraft.
-Of course if tyrael is corrupted shouldn’t at least one of the seven player chars from d2 also be corrupted, they spent more time in the vicinity of the corrupted worldstone than tyrael did, and im not counting nightmare and hell, unless tyrael is corrupted thru having shards of the worldstone enter his body when he smashed it. Hmm, it is interesting to consider the power of the soulstones in regards to humans. Since the wanderer became one with the soulstone and then became Diablo. But would you maybe suggest that since Baal's touch corrupted the Worldstone, that all those little shards that exploded each contained his essence (or whatever you'd call it, his soul, I suppose)?
-tie up any loose ends from the diablo series not that I can think of any right now but there is probably a few, mostly to do with tyrael I believe The most I've ever pictured Tyrael doing after the Worldstone explosion was somehow forfeiting his power and maybe choosing a mortal existence until he could die or something. It seems like there could be other maverick angels like him that could take his place in furture storylines.
-the angel inarius, he could perhaps be set free from his prison of mirrors to seek revenge on the prime evils or something Was it in the Diablo 2 manual that discusses his final fate? I can't remember exactly but I wish to learn more about it. I finished the Sin War book last month and it definitly seemed like Inarius could play a significant role in a future game.
-tie in with the diablo novels some how
-something with Deckard cain is he still alive, he is getting old, but for some people it would feel like diablo without him. I wasn't sure exactly what you meant by this.
-some mention of the heroes of d2/d2lod, perhaps you could find part of there armor of course the set would have a name like Unknown Barbarian heroes…. or something I think at the most have unique or set items from the heroes of D2. But since Diablo is mostly plot driven and not character driven, it's hard to imagine much more referencing to them than that. With the exception of one hero perhaps, since I guess in D3, there will be an official hero according to the story that killed Baal in the end. You know, just like how it was the Warrior who killed Diablo in the first one. I'm rooting for either the Assassin or Necromancer.
-you could find out that cain is not the last of the horadrim, there is another, most likely an evil mage or sorts, you kill him then inform cain he once again is the last of the horadrim, cain has a wet eye. I always sensed that the Horadrim were more like warrior bards and secret agents combined but didn't employ much magic and instead would temporarily ally themselves with powerful mages during specific campaigns, such as the original imprisonment of Baal. I don't know why, but it's more fun for me to think of them merely as a very effective and secretive enforcement agency that uses means other than magic. This has just been my own take on them, however. I'm sure they used lots of magic according to the official story.
-if a playable char returns in d3 like the chars from d1 did in d2, have more of a storyline for them, not just the ‘oh xchar is now a monster I have to kill’ Yeah, I agree with this. Since you invest so much time and effort in your character, ya kind of wish that your class had something more to do with the story as opposed to an NPC merely saying, "Oh, you're a Necromancer, aren't you..."
-several powerful demons that have been defeated in the previous games could make a return thru some kind of resurrection/summoning spell, similar to the one Baal used to bring the warlord of blood (bartuc the bloody) back to life Hehe, I'd like to see that goat man from the first Diablo (Gharbad the Weak?) who begs you not to kill him, then when you keep revisiting him, he tries to kill you and your character says something like, "I'm not impressed."
-A civil war could break out in Hell, between Belial and Azmodan as they both vie for Ruler of Hell Yeah, that definitely seems like the natural course of things. That they'd fight amongst each other. I wonder how that might apply to the game, however. Cause you know, if they're fighting in hell, might as well let them.
-If D3 is a prequel, you should be able to be involved in the Binding of the three, or the Sin War, or any other event in the diablo History, such as the Blackening of King Leoric (well maybe not that one thats a little recent compared to the Binding of the three and the Sin War) Absolutely. Imagine being a Horadrim character, being on the quest to imprison the Three in their Soulstones. And perhaps it wouldn't be all straightforward killing, but also making contacts, acquiring information, more exploring and puzzle solving kind of like something from Oblivion.
-D3 could be set a short while after the events of LOD and Hell has taken over and you must try to reclaim the World of Sanctuary and possibly Heaven. Reclaim Heaven? Are you saying that by this time, Heaven was lost to the Burning Hells? Cause that's another thing I'm confused about.
Not doing so though indicates that the angels are weaker and lesser, and also following the wrong cause. If they can stray, but evil cannot, what does that indicate?
isnt that how its always been though? that evil stays evil but gradually starts to consume good? even the devil from christianity was an angel. think of how easy it is to do the wrong thing, but how hard doing the right thing sometimes is.
This is the biggest issue with Diablo that escapes me. I was always so positive that the purpose of destroying the Worldstone was to prevent both demons and angels from interferring with Sanctuary again. While I know everyone insists that was not the case, I just don't understand why he would do it if it meant demons could enter more easily. Yes, Baal corrupted it, but he was also destroyed...so I didn't see what the problem was.
This I would say is an assumption. We don't know what the effects will be, but to lay the ground for a sequel we would need some demons to fight, and they have to get in somehow.
isnt that how its always been though? that evil stays evil but gradually starts to consume good? even the devil from christianity was an angel. think of how easy it is to do the wrong thing, but how hard doing the right thing sometimes is.
But if evil can never become good, but good can become evil, evil is better, since everyone who is evil knows that being good is "wrong", but good people are unsure.
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But if evil can never become good, but good can become evil, evil is better, since everyone who is evil knows that being good is "wrong", but good people are unsure.
bad always loses:D cuz they have no order and they want to stab each other in the back for petty power. good has order but bad people who are good, dont like it, so they become bad, then they get dominated by the good guys.
hmm i can't think of any examples of bad guys turning good. i guess u just dont hear too much about it. its like carlos said tho, its easier to be bad.
although I must admit it really looks like I hinted that
yes, yes it does.
hmm i can't think of any examples of bad guys turning good. i guess u just dont hear too much about it. its like carlos said tho, its easier to be bad.
go watch/read some anime/manga. it happens a lot in anime/manga. basically any character that is the anti hero. they arent good, yet neither are they the current villian in the show/book.
for example; Vegeta in DBZ, Skull Knight in Berserk, and Alexander Anderson and Alucard from Hellsing. (well Anderson is bad, then good, then bad again).
also there is Zodd the Immortal in Berserk. he was bad, then he joins up Griffin. Griifin was good then bad, then it appears he is good again but im not far enough thru the manga to say for sure yet.
if an Angel can fall, a demon should be able to ascend. its rare but i think it could happen. though a fallen angel makes for more interesting quests/story. Paradise Lost is all about the fall of Lucifer.
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if an Angel can fall, a demon should be able to ascend. its rare but i think it could happen. though a fallen angel makes for more interesting quests/story. Paradise Lost is all about the fall of Lucifer.
Well, wasn't there that one side quest in the first Diablo where you meet that Hell Knight who was once an angel? I think he was anyway. But anyway, you're supposed to kill someone then come back and he asks you to kill him or something and you get that cool Hell Knight helm? Someone help me fill in the gaps here.
Izual is an obvious example of this anyway. I'm still inconclusive toward whether Inarius is considered that. He just seems bad for both Heaven and Hell.
I've considered the possibility that since Baal's Soulstone was first damaged before they originally imprisoned him in it, with Tal Rasha, that perhaps the stone was never capable of completely containing him, and thus his essence managed to escape the bounds of it anyway.
Cause the only reason they were able to use the compromised stone, was because Tal Rasha assisted in containing him. However, this is another fine point of the story that escapes me: it seems that for one Prime Evils to exist in a physical form, they need a human host, otherwise they exist merely as the stones (remember in the first Diablo how he was confined to his and that's why he lured Prince Albrecht into the labryinth), although even without a host body they can still do harm. But when joined with someone, then they can really do some damage.
So why didn't the Horadrim originally take the Soulstone and just bury it in the tomb. One might assume it was because they couldn't take the chance of who's possession it might fall into. But if that was really their reason, then why would they chance putting Baal's soulstone in the most powerful mortal mage at the time? And obviously, the story addresses the arrogance of the Horadrim at the time assuming that they could pull it off. But why didn't Tyrael foresee that risk?
I suppose it was because Tyrael was unaware of Izual's treachery and did not know then that the Soulstones were corrupted. I think it would be interesting to read some more literature about the meeting between Izual and the Prime Evils. Because I couldn't understand really Izual's motivation for defecting the way he did.
im getting pretty sick of these, wow so and so from the previous game is now evil and i have to kill them. how lame is that. why is it when in regards to possible storylines for d3, such and such a character from the previous game is now evil or corrupt is all it seems anyone can come up with?
heres a few ideas i had, yeh i mention Tyrael being corrupt, but only because it illustrates a point.
-with the worldstone gone demons are more free to enter the world of sanctuary, this is how more powerful demon lords (act bosses of sorts) can come through
-as both demons and angels can enter the others realm, I think more demons and angels should be present at the gates to each area, they are suppose to be lock in eternal combat, yet only one angel was in hell possibly fighting demons on their own turf
-the last two lesser evil Belial Lord of Lies and Azmodan Lord of Sin elude us still
-the eternal battle between the High Heavens and the Burning Hells is still raging
-the prime evils returning (or just diablo) without their soulstones as they arent needed for the prime evils to exist
-something about Tyrael, is he corrupted? (Kinda been done before, a lot) is he banished from heaven? It may just be me but arent angels forbidden from major influences on mankind or something like that, I forget what it says in the text regards the lore of angels in diablo
-Of course if tyrael is corrupted shouldn’t at least one of the seven player chars from d2 also be corrupted, they spent more time in the vicinity of the corrupted worldstone than tyrael did, and im not counting nightmare and hell, unless tyrael is corrupted thru having shards of the worldstone enter his body when he smashed it.
-tie up any loose ends from the diablo series not that I can think of any right now but there is probably a few, mostly to do with tyrael I believe
-the angel inarius, he could perhaps be set free from his prison of mirrors to seek revenge on the prime evils or something
-tie in with the diablo novels some how
-something with Deckard cain is he still alive, he is getting old, but for some people it would feel like diablo without him.
-some mention of the heroes of d2/d2lod, perhaps you could find part of there armor of course the set would have a name like Unknown Barbarian heroes…. or something
-you could find out that cain is not the last of the horadrim, there is another, most likely an evil mage or sorts, you kill him then inform cain he once again is the last of the horadrim, cain has a wet eye.
-if a playable char returns in d3 like the chars from d1 did in d2, have more of a storyline for them, not just the ‘oh xchar is now a monster I have to kill’
-several powerful demons that have been defeated in the previous games could make a return thru some kind of resurrection/summoning spell, similar to the one Baal used to bring the warlord of blood (bartuc the bloody) back to life
-A civil war could break out in Hell, between Belial and Azmodan as they both vie for Ruler of Hell
-If D3 is a prequel, you should be able to be involved in the Binding of the three, or the Sin War, or any other event in the diablo History, such as the Blackening of King Leoric (well maybe not that one thats a little recent compared to the Binding of the three and the Sin War)
-D3 could be set a short while after the events of LOD and Hell has taken over and you must try to reclaim the World of Sanctuary and possibly Heaven.
FingolfinGR there is no proof that the lesser evils had or didnt have soulstones if thats what your hinting at. but i dont think they did.
i would expect Belial and Azmodan to be involved some how with the storyline. they are after all the current rulers of Hell.
A very safe bet though is that Azmodan and Belial will make some sort of appearance, in company with at least Diablo and maybe his two brothers.
Yeah I totally agree with this. I don't think blizzard would include the lore in D1 if they were never going to use it.
Oh and sorry about all that shit i said about you cornflake....i guess you can call it a mix of imaturety and stupidty.
-with the worldstone gone demons are more free to enter the world of sanctuary, this is how more powerful demon lords (act bosses of sorts) can come through
This is the biggest issue with Diablo that escapes me. I was always so positive that the purpose of destroying the Worldstone was to prevent both demons and angels from interferring with Sanctuary again. While I know everyone insists that was not the case, I just don't understand why he would do it if it meant demons could enter more easily. Yes, Baal corrupted it, but he was also destroyed...so I didn't see what the problem was.
-as both demons and angels can enter the others realm, I think more demons and angels should be present at the gates to each area, they are suppose to be lock in eternal combat, yet only one angel was in hell possibly fighting demons on their own turf
-the last two lesser evil Belial Lord of Lies and Azmodan Lord of Sin elude us still
I was always intrigued by these other lesser evils that you didn't hear as much about. Not only these two, but I'm reminded of Kabraxis from The Black Road; I don't think Blizzard would be shy about simply creating new demons and contriving some story for them to put in a new game. But I'll give their story developers credit for whatever device they use as not being contrived.
-the eternal battle between the High Heavens and the Burning Hells is still raging
Yes, and I suppose without this key element in the story, there probably would be nothing more to base the game on. So it might be interesting even if they continued this story but instead of Sanctuary, have it on a new front, maybe a different world created by a renegade angel or even another dimension. But I suppose you'd want something more like a world for some sense of normality.
-the prime evils returning (or just diablo) without their soulstones as they arent needed for the prime evils to exist
To be honest, this concept kind of saddens me, but just because I thought they had good reason to bring Diablo back in the second game, but I'd hate to think of having to fight Diablo a third time. Otherwise, I'd just feel like what's the point of killing him if he can't stay dead.
-something about Tyrael, is he corrupted? (Kinda been done before, a lot) is he banished from heaven? It may just be me but arent angels forbidden from major influences on mankind or something like that, I forget what it says in the text regards the lore of angels in diablo
It would definitely be interesting to if perhaps you could fight an angel in Diablo. Talking about a corrupted arch angel makes me think of how cool it might be if you played campaigns in Diablo just like you would in Warcraft and Starcraft.
-Of course if tyrael is corrupted shouldn’t at least one of the seven player chars from d2 also be corrupted, they spent more time in the vicinity of the corrupted worldstone than tyrael did, and im not counting nightmare and hell, unless tyrael is corrupted thru having shards of the worldstone enter his body when he smashed it.
Hmm, it is interesting to consider the power of the soulstones in regards to humans. Since the wanderer became one with the soulstone and then became Diablo. But would you maybe suggest that since Baal's touch corrupted the Worldstone, that all those little shards that exploded each contained his essence (or whatever you'd call it, his soul, I suppose)?
-tie up any loose ends from the diablo series not that I can think of any right now but there is probably a few, mostly to do with tyrael I believe
The most I've ever pictured Tyrael doing after the Worldstone explosion was somehow forfeiting his power and maybe choosing a mortal existence until he could die or something. It seems like there could be other maverick angels like him that could take his place in furture storylines.
-the angel inarius, he could perhaps be set free from his prison of mirrors to seek revenge on the prime evils or something
Was it in the Diablo 2 manual that discusses his final fate? I can't remember exactly but I wish to learn more about it. I finished the Sin War book last month and it definitly seemed like Inarius could play a significant role in a future game.
-tie in with the diablo novels some how
-something with Deckard cain is he still alive, he is getting old, but for some people it would feel like diablo without him.
I wasn't sure exactly what you meant by this.
-some mention of the heroes of d2/d2lod, perhaps you could find part of there armor of course the set would have a name like Unknown Barbarian heroes…. or something
I think at the most have unique or set items from the heroes of D2. But since Diablo is mostly plot driven and not character driven, it's hard to imagine much more referencing to them than that. With the exception of one hero perhaps, since I guess in D3, there will be an official hero according to the story that killed Baal in the end. You know, just like how it was the Warrior who killed Diablo in the first one. I'm rooting for either the Assassin or Necromancer.
-you could find out that cain is not the last of the horadrim, there is another, most likely an evil mage or sorts, you kill him then inform cain he once again is the last of the horadrim, cain has a wet eye.
I always sensed that the Horadrim were more like warrior bards and secret agents combined but didn't employ much magic and instead would temporarily ally themselves with powerful mages during specific campaigns, such as the original imprisonment of Baal. I don't know why, but it's more fun for me to think of them merely as a very effective and secretive enforcement agency that uses means other than magic. This has just been my own take on them, however. I'm sure they used lots of magic according to the official story.
-if a playable char returns in d3 like the chars from d1 did in d2, have more of a storyline for them, not just the ‘oh xchar is now a monster I have to kill’
Yeah, I agree with this. Since you invest so much time and effort in your character, ya kind of wish that your class had something more to do with the story as opposed to an NPC merely saying, "Oh, you're a Necromancer, aren't you..."
-several powerful demons that have been defeated in the previous games could make a return thru some kind of resurrection/summoning spell, similar to the one Baal used to bring the warlord of blood (bartuc the bloody) back to life
Hehe, I'd like to see that goat man from the first Diablo (Gharbad the Weak?) who begs you not to kill him, then when you keep revisiting him, he tries to kill you and your character says something like, "I'm not impressed."
-A civil war could break out in Hell, between Belial and Azmodan as they both vie for Ruler of Hell
Yeah, that definitely seems like the natural course of things. That they'd fight amongst each other. I wonder how that might apply to the game, however. Cause you know, if they're fighting in hell, might as well let them.
-If D3 is a prequel, you should be able to be involved in the Binding of the three, or the Sin War, or any other event in the diablo History, such as the Blackening of King Leoric (well maybe not that one thats a little recent compared to the Binding of the three and the Sin War)
Absolutely. Imagine being a Horadrim character, being on the quest to imprison the Three in their Soulstones. And perhaps it wouldn't be all straightforward killing, but also making contacts, acquiring information, more exploring and puzzle solving kind of like something from Oblivion.
-D3 could be set a short while after the events of LOD and Hell has taken over and you must try to reclaim the World of Sanctuary and possibly Heaven.
Reclaim Heaven? Are you saying that by this time, Heaven was lost to the Burning Hells? Cause that's another thing I'm confused about.
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isnt that how its always been though? that evil stays evil but gradually starts to consume good? even the devil from christianity was an angel. think of how easy it is to do the wrong thing, but how hard doing the right thing sometimes is.
This I would say is an assumption. We don't know what the effects will be, but to lay the ground for a sequel we would need some demons to fight, and they have to get in somehow.
But if evil can never become good, but good can become evil, evil is better, since everyone who is evil knows that being good is "wrong", but good people are unsure.
hmm i can't think of any examples of bad guys turning good. i guess u just dont hear too much about it. its like carlos said tho, its easier to be bad.
yes, yes it does.
go watch/read some anime/manga. it happens a lot in anime/manga. basically any character that is the anti hero. they arent good, yet neither are they the current villian in the show/book.
for example; Vegeta in DBZ, Skull Knight in Berserk, and Alexander Anderson and Alucard from Hellsing. (well Anderson is bad, then good, then bad again).
also there is Zodd the Immortal in Berserk. he was bad, then he joins up Griffin. Griifin was good then bad, then it appears he is good again but im not far enough thru the manga to say for sure yet.
if an Angel can fall, a demon should be able to ascend. its rare but i think it could happen. though a fallen angel makes for more interesting quests/story. Paradise Lost is all about the fall of Lucifer.
Well, wasn't there that one side quest in the first Diablo where you meet that Hell Knight who was once an angel? I think he was anyway. But anyway, you're supposed to kill someone then come back and he asks you to kill him or something and you get that cool Hell Knight helm? Someone help me fill in the gaps here.
Izual is an obvious example of this anyway. I'm still inconclusive toward whether Inarius is considered that. He just seems bad for both Heaven and Hell.
I've considered the possibility that since Baal's Soulstone was first damaged before they originally imprisoned him in it, with Tal Rasha, that perhaps the stone was never capable of completely containing him, and thus his essence managed to escape the bounds of it anyway.
Cause the only reason they were able to use the compromised stone, was because Tal Rasha assisted in containing him. However, this is another fine point of the story that escapes me: it seems that for one Prime Evils to exist in a physical form, they need a human host, otherwise they exist merely as the stones (remember in the first Diablo how he was confined to his and that's why he lured Prince Albrecht into the labryinth), although even without a host body they can still do harm. But when joined with someone, then they can really do some damage.
So why didn't the Horadrim originally take the Soulstone and just bury it in the tomb. One might assume it was because they couldn't take the chance of who's possession it might fall into. But if that was really their reason, then why would they chance putting Baal's soulstone in the most powerful mortal mage at the time? And obviously, the story addresses the arrogance of the Horadrim at the time assuming that they could pull it off. But why didn't Tyrael foresee that risk?
I suppose it was because Tyrael was unaware of Izual's treachery and did not know then that the Soulstones were corrupted. I think it would be interesting to read some more literature about the meeting between Izual and the Prime Evils. Because I couldn't understand really Izual's motivation for defecting the way he did.
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