I fail to see how any non MMO is going to "steal subscriptions" from WoW.
Plenty of amazing non subscription games have come out over the years. TF2, Mass Effect, GTA4, Unreal 3, ect ect.
Blizzard's subscriptions have no where to go but up. The only other game that provides real competition is another MMO. This is because people do not want to pay 2 subscription fees a month, and those that don't mind usually don't have the time to invest in two seperate MMOs.
However, non subscription games can be played very casually and can be bought at a one time price of 50-60$. They generally don't "steal" players from an MMO.
That being said, Blizzard would not release another MMO of the same genre right now because their goal is to capture a new portion of the market. As we all know, the sci fi market is quite untapped right now.
Also: Age of Conan is not any real threat. They have lost 30% of their subscription base within the first month.
Either Bioware or Blizzard will kill WoW.
TL;DR version
You're completely and utterly wrong and in no way shape or form will a non subscription game make an MMO subscriber stop paying.
I don't think Vivendi is going to be holding the cards for Blizzard, then.
Even though Vivendi owns Blizzard - they owe Blizzard - for bringing them out of some type of debt... without Blizzard they were gonna be screwed... so Blizzard is royalty to Vivendi example!
Blizzard "You want moneys?!"
Vivendi "Yes plz, we hav debt 2 pay"
Blizzard: "okay, let us make the games! - but leave us alone!
Vivendi: "kk lol we leav u alone, gt us money plz"
I am growing more and more spectical as the days pass. If Blizzard doesn't drop some concrete hints soon, I don't know what to think.
True, there has been a lot of indications that something is happening. Diablo Pinata April Fools, a ladder reset not too long after the previous one, and coinciding with the WWI, and no-cd patch that takes months to release as opposed to the equivalents for Starcraft and Warcraft, the purchase of diablo3.com...
And a WWI followed by a Blizzcon. They simply cannot hold these two events without adding something new to the kettle.
PlugY for Diablo II allows you to reset skills and stats, transfer items between characters in singleplayer, obtain all ladder runewords and do all Uberquests while offline. It is the only way to do all of the above. Please use it.
Supporting big shoulderpads and flashy armor since 2004.
[quote=alexiskool12345;218657 Blizzard is not stupid. They will make Diablo III and have it be the tradition hack n slash genre everyone has come to love. Diablo would make a great MMO but Blizzard won't go against popular vote against the fans and do a MMO of the Diablo universe before a new traditional Diablo game is done and done.
Now please get the hell out of these forums and stop giving Diablo fans a bad name.[/quote]
lol 1. Valve made CSS completely different than CS1.6 (to the bane of all 1.6 fans)
CSS is now more popular than 1.6
and to reiterate that, tf2 is completely different than tfc and is held as 1000000000x greater
2. 'diablofans' already has a terrible name, you haven't been here long enough to know that so I will let you find out on your own
now to vancrackin
guess when WoD comes out? NOT TOMMOROW LOL
from time of announcement to 'estimate time of release' (probably 2011) THEN you must add in blizzard time (add 1-2 years) WoW will be thoroughly destroyed by all the companies jumping on the MMO wagon
Oh and if Darkfall releases ever, well...
also where the fuck have you non-mmo kids been? blizzard is hiring people for a NEXT GEN MMO TO WORK WITH THE TEAM BEHIND DIABLO 1 AND 2
lol 1. Valve made CSS completely different than CS1.6 (to the bane of all 1.6 fans)
CSS is now more popular than 1.6
and to reiterate that, tf2 is completely different than tfc and is held as 1000000000x greater
2. 'diablofans' already has a terrible name, you haven't been here long enough to know that so I will let you find out on your own
now to vancrackin
guess when WoD comes out? NOT TOMMOROW LOL
from time of announcement to 'estimate time of release' (probably 2011) THEN you must add in blizzard time (add 1-2 years) WoW will be thoroughly destroyed by all the companies jumping on the MMO wagon
Oh and if Darkfall releases ever, well...
also where the fuck have you non-mmo kids been? blizzard is hiring people for a NEXT GEN MMO TO WORK WITH THE TEAM BEHIND DIABLO 1 AND 2
EYE'll lern uz too reed
Actually it seems to me that every job opening posted on http://www.blizzard.com/us/jobopp/ that doesn't have "Next-Gen MMO" in the title contains information on Diablo and the ones that do have "Next-Gen MMO" in the title say nothing about Diablo.
Actually it seems to me that every job opening posted on http://www.blizzard.com/us/jobopp/ that doesn't have "Next-Gen MMO" in the title contains information on Diablo and the ones that do have "Next-Gen MMO" in the title say nothing about Diablo.
Correct me if I'm wrong with links plz.
There are rumors that they may have done that so people don't assume the next game is a diablo mmo
I'd say your wrong. I'd say that's a procedure for assuring that they're still legally using the Diablo trademark which must be filed 6 months from the notice of allowance. The fact that it's a *second* extension only means that there was another one before that, extending the trademark for more 6 months, and it's not necessarily related to Diablo 2 + expansion. Plus, that's a request from May 2007 so it doesn't prove much, other than blizzard not wanting anyone else using the name diablo.
Uhhm well you could be right I don´t understand most of this legal stuff, one thing tho´ the notice for the request is dated May 2007 but the date of the approval is dated 19 Apr, 2008...
Maybe I´m seeing too much into it because I really crossing my finger about all the recent news
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I god off educated guess that it will be announced.. Now yall are talking about how!?
Waiting for Diablo 3
People have been speculating how it would be announced for years. Heck, we've got whole threads devoted to it
And I'm not assuming anything (with relations to the SCII announcement.) That, to me, would just be a logical time to announce it.
Mag, I like your new thing in your sig about Tolkien, I didn't notice it till now.
can somebody explain that for me?
Cheers
I fail to see how any non MMO is going to "steal subscriptions" from WoW.
Plenty of amazing non subscription games have come out over the years. TF2, Mass Effect, GTA4, Unreal 3, ect ect.
Blizzard's subscriptions have no where to go but up. The only other game that provides real competition is another MMO. This is because people do not want to pay 2 subscription fees a month, and those that don't mind usually don't have the time to invest in two seperate MMOs.
However, non subscription games can be played very casually and can be bought at a one time price of 50-60$. They generally don't "steal" players from an MMO.
That being said, Blizzard would not release another MMO of the same genre right now because their goal is to capture a new portion of the market. As we all know, the sci fi market is quite untapped right now.
Also: Age of Conan is not any real threat. They have lost 30% of their subscription base within the first month.
Either Bioware or Blizzard will kill WoW.
TL;DR version
You're completely and utterly wrong and in no way shape or form will a non subscription game make an MMO subscriber stop paying.
Even though Vivendi owns Blizzard - they owe Blizzard - for bringing them out of some type of debt... without Blizzard they were gonna be screwed... so Blizzard is royalty to Vivendi example!
Blizzard "You want moneys?!"
Vivendi "Yes plz, we hav debt 2 pay"
Blizzard: "okay, let us make the games! - but leave us alone!
Vivendi: "kk lol we leav u alone, gt us money plz"
:cool:
True, there has been a lot of indications that something is happening. Diablo Pinata April Fools, a ladder reset not too long after the previous one, and coinciding with the WWI, and no-cd patch that takes months to release as opposed to the equivalents for Starcraft and Warcraft, the purchase of diablo3.com...
And a WWI followed by a Blizzcon. They simply cannot hold these two events without adding something new to the kettle.
Now please get the hell out of these forums and stop giving Diablo fans a bad name.[/quote]
lol 1. Valve made CSS completely different than CS1.6 (to the bane of all 1.6 fans)
CSS is now more popular than 1.6
and to reiterate that, tf2 is completely different than tfc and is held as 1000000000x greater
2. 'diablofans' already has a terrible name, you haven't been here long enough to know that so I will let you find out on your own
now to vancrackin
guess when WoD comes out? NOT TOMMOROW LOL
from time of announcement to 'estimate time of release' (probably 2011) THEN you must add in blizzard time (add 1-2 years) WoW will be thoroughly destroyed by all the companies jumping on the MMO wagon
Oh and if Darkfall releases ever, well...
also where the fuck have you non-mmo kids been? blizzard is hiring people for a NEXT GEN MMO TO WORK WITH THE TEAM BEHIND DIABLO 1 AND 2
EYE'll lern uz too reed
Actually it seems to me that every job opening posted on http://www.blizzard.com/us/jobopp/ that doesn't have "Next-Gen MMO" in the title contains information on Diablo and the ones that do have "Next-Gen MMO" in the title say nothing about Diablo.
Correct me if I'm wrong with links plz.
There are rumors that they may have done that so people don't assume the next game is a diablo mmo
http://tmportal.uspto.gov/external/portal/tow?SRCH=Y&isSubmitted=true&details=&SELECT=US+Serial+No&TEXT=78770575#
That'd be great. :thumbsup:
:spam::spam::spam:
Has anybody paid any attention to this?
As I see it look really important
Extension request? and a second one, if the first one would be Diablo 2 with its expansion, then the second one would have to be Diablo III
Correct me if I´m wrong but this seem like a really important lead!
Nice job grotesquity :thumbsup:
yeah we covered that in 2007
hes baaaccckkkk
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lets do some baal runs
Uhhm well you could be right I don´t understand most of this legal stuff, one thing tho´ the notice for the request is dated May 2007 but the date of the approval is dated 19 Apr, 2008...
Maybe I´m seeing too much into it because I really crossing my finger about all the recent news