How many people want Diablo to be an eSports? I know I would, it would give Diablo pvp a whole new meaning. I think it would work great and get better the more blizzard works with it. You can compare it to wow pvp (I'd rather not lol) Diablo has Line of Sight, Cool-downs, Crowd Controls, Buffs, different builds for variety and does take teamwork and skill to win. Diablo 3 has already become way more complex than click-to-smash like in Diablo 2 (don't get me wrong I love Diablo 2). They could incorporate multiple pvp version like TDM, LMS, CTF or whatever the players want.
I was lucky enough to go to last years Blizzcon and exsperiance the Diablo 3 pvp multiple times. All the classes were very balanced there was no annoying healer like in wow and it was a whole lot more fun than wow. They could also incorporate an arena system and have the finals at Blizzcon every year. Sense they don't do Warcraft tournaments there is a spot open. If started early the eSports would last a long time since there is going to be 2 or 3 exspansions with the game.
I know the said they wouldn't do it but they also said that if there was enough of us who wants Diablo 3 to be an eSport they would do it. So who wants a more competitive pvp?
Oh really? 4 Specific characters, with specific skills, with specific runes were balanced? Interesting i did not think that was possible. But in all seriousness dont expect an eSport out of diablo, thats just silly. Diablo is meant for fun, i don't want to stress about rating i just want good ol' wack a mole fun.
Im not shure diablo is that kind of competative game, and i dont think a lot of people whould like it, because they whould compare/reffer to WoW pvp. even thou it isnt the same, u can make a lot of lines between the two games.
Myselfe i whouldnt like that diablo pvp got to the level of "High end competitions". thou i whould like small tournaments wich wasnt that serious.
And then there is the matter of balance wich whould affect pve a lot too, wich in my perspective whould be really bad, even if its a buff or nerf.
I hate the way people put down an idea cause THEY don't want to stress about it. The thing is if your not in to it, there is no need to stress or care about it at all.
But i do have to stress about it, what if my brother is not good at PVP? I am not allowed to PVP with him? Because i cant arena with him in WoW enless i want to re-farm all my arena rating to keep my Cap's high enough to be viable and get my new gear ASAP. I do like PVP, but i don't want to have to shun/be shunned by my friends because our skill levels vary, i'd like to just screw around with people i like playing with no matter the skill.
Someone pull me up and correct me if I'm wrong, but hasn't Blizzard stated that they arn't going to balance the classes around PvP? That statement alone kind of tells me that Blizzard doesn't have much interest in turning Diablo 3 into an E-sport. PvP has its place in most games and it seems in Diablo 3 its going to be more of a "It's in because you guys find it fun, and it can be cool. But it isn't the focus of this game"
As a personal opinion it really doesn't phase me either way if it becomes an "E-sport" or not. I'm still going to happily grind away at inferno as best I can (Although I do hope that PvE skills arn't changed for the sake of PvP balance)
In an interview with Jay Willson, he said over his dead body will this game become an ESport or in any way PvP dominated. He said Blizzard is happy with Starcraft being their ESport franchise, and Diablo is and always has been best in it's PvE element.
While my opinion does not support this statement, this is just a direct quote from the man in the big chair.
Whhen I went to blizzcon with Jaco, we went through the d3 PvP line quit a bit. Not only is the gameplay extremely addictive (take my word for those who haven't played the PvP on it yet) but it's fast pace and very fun. With wow there is alot of micro management. Timers, mana, procs ect ect. With the d3 arena I felt like I could sit back, relax a little and COMPLETLY SMASH FACE. there were times where you had to clutch out or in, moments where you grit your teeth and all your muscles tense up. Not only does the gameplay style keep it fresh and exciting, but there are alot of underlying skills that you really have to pay attention to. Keeping health globes under your greedy control, watching cooldown timers (not only yours but your enemies). My point is, there are alot of aspects that are INSANELY fun about PvP, but there are also a ton of aspects that require skill, reflex, and attention to make it an eSport. I'm very confident that when it's released, it's going to catch fire and alot of people are going to demand blizzard to up the PvP presence. Alot of people haven't played it yet, they can only imagine and contemplate on their thoughts combined with others. But take it from someone who played this OVER AND OVER for 2 days. Your expectations will be met and more than likely exceeded.
Given that PvP is sepearate from PvE I think it would be inteesting if it was balanced for an E-sport. It would be a lot of fun. But they have said in no uncertain terms the will NOT balance it for E-sport because Diablo 3 is not meant to be an e-sport. Now that does not mean that it can't become an E-sport but that wont be kown until the game is released and we see how the PvP goes. I think it would be intersting as it woulb e unlike any E-sport out there. The only one close to it would be DOTA, but it would still be different because Diablo 3 PvP is much faster paced.
I know they are not planning on making it an eSports that is not what my topic is about. Would in not be fun to have a little more for the pvp. I know for a fact that they would do it (or at least try it) if there was enough people supporting it, I was there at Blizzcon I heard them. My topic is about how many people want it to be an eSport and why or why not.
I do appreciate all of the constructive criticism and comments. It helps me know what people are thinking.
I would like to see d3 pvp growing slowly into e-sports. Even in d2 I seriously thought about it getting more competitive already. The existing leagues were decently organiced and balanced out the existing imbalance with rulesets (more or less ... ). It never happened though and I'm not sure if it will do in diablo 3.
I really like Diablo and yes it's not based on PvP, but would really be nice that once game is released with next expansion or something like that, we see much more balance and thoughts and work on PvP, i would really like to see that, i mean PvP is really fun thing to do, especially if they would put much thought/work in it and make many modes.
I am pretty sure Blizz will work on the PvP metagame a few patches after release.
This will definitely be the case if all of a sudden one class totally dominates
I think the best way to balance is to just mod skills when in arena -
example: if the monk's heal allows him to top himself off every 15 seconds and it just proves too powerful they might add a 1min cooldown on powerful healing while in arena but keep it the same in pve
am hoping they add some balancing (but only if one class really dominates) I am totally fine with a complete rock paper scissors - not every class should vbe able to beat their counter
I think balancing the skills just in the arena is a good idea. It would keep the PvE from being affected. Hopefully they look into it after the game comes out and if people don't like to pvp then they don't have to play it. And it is still not going to draw people away from the PvE part of the game because they still have to endlessly run through Inferno to get good gear.
Diablo 3 could be an esport but I think a few things would have to be in the game for this to happen. A replay feature that would automatically record the games on blizzard's end.. like the one in SC2. They would also need a spectator feature, and I haven't heard anything of this yet so I am not sure.