Interesting. Cool info. IS this from the books and what not?
Yes, largely. I simlified, and paraphrased.
The Paladin The Knights of Westmarch who felled the armies of mighty Leoric are pure at heart and closely follow the teachings of Zakarum, the Religion of the Light. A battle-ready warrior for whom faith is a shield, the Paladin fights for what he believes to be right. His steadfastness gives him powers to bestow blessings to his friends and wreak cruel justice on foes. There are those who call the Paladin an overwrought zealot, but others recognize in him the strength and goodness of the Light.
During the mid-twelfth century, after the Church of Zakarum had gained prominence in the East, the Church decreed that the visions of Akarat would be spread throughout the known world in order to redeem the masses. Thus, the Church selected a group of its most charismatic and devoted priests and sent them on a mission to proselytize the people of the West. [/quote][quote]Unfortunately, the Church had not prepared these men for the rigors of travel nor the hazards of the world. The priests who survived their missions recounted tales of harsh weather, inadequate supplies, attacks from bandits and even encounters with horrible monsters. To ensure the success of future missions, the Church set about training holy warriors, Paladins, to accompany and safeguard their missionaries. In practice, these "Protectors of the Word" proved to be more successful at converting the native peoples than the Priests that they were assigned to defend.
Impressing the locals with daring deeds, powerful weapons, and martial prowess was far more convincing than the condemnations of a soft-spoken monk. However, once the Word had been spread to every major city of the West, the "Protectors of the Word" faded from public view. Some decades later, Paladins were again called into service. During the height of the Time of Troubles, the Church commenced a second campaign of conversion. This time, however, the inconvincible were deemed evil. The Zakarum Inquisition spread through the lands like a tempest, laying waste to all suspected of demonic possession or corruption. Leading this crusade was a new generation of Paladins, known as the "Hand of Zakarum." These cavaliers of righteousness swept through the lands, expunging the taint of demonic contamination wherever they found it. In the midst of this bloody crusade, a rebellion arose within the ranks of the Paladins of Zakarum. The rebels condemned the methods of the Inquisition, proclaiming that the new Order of Paladins should protect the innocent, and that the evil corruption was rooted in their forebear's failure. They resolved to fight the true source of corruption, the Three Prime Evils - Diablo, Baal and Mephisto. And so, these rebellious Paladins left their Zakarum brethren and ventured west.
As for all the civilizations that is next to impossible since both the Barbarian and necromancers are vaguely described, we don't really know all the the rite and rituals of both classes.
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-Humankind cannot gain anything without first giving something in return. To obtain, something of equal value must be lost. That is alchemy's First Law of Equivalent Exchange. In those days, we really believed that to be the world's one, and only, truth.
As for all the civilizations that is next to impossible since both the Barbarian and necromancers are vaguely described, we don't really know all the the rite and rituals of both classes.
Thanks man I appreciate it.
Ah no biggie I wasn't sure on how much info was available.
You might be pleasantly surprised how much info is there. Shame people don't view it more often.
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-Humankind cannot gain anything without first giving something in return. To obtain, something of equal value must be lost. That is alchemy's First Law of Equivalent Exchange. In those days, we really believed that to be the world's one, and only, truth.
The second part of his question says ciliizations. While that is primarily the classes, in regards to ciliization, it's actually vague.
How do Barbarians bury their Dead? Tomb? Funeral ship? Funeral pyre?
Who is the head of the Rathma Society?
WIth the Zakarum restablishing themselves in the West (Westmarch) who is the Que-Hegan there?
Who is the leader of the Barbarian clans? Is it still one person (used to be Bul Kathos)?
Who are the leader of the mage clans?
THese are thingsyou won't find anywhere (yet).
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-Humankind cannot gain anything without first giving something in return. To obtain, something of equal value must be lost. That is alchemy's First Law of Equivalent Exchange. In those days, we really believed that to be the world's one, and only, truth.
The second part of his question says ciliizations. While that is primarily the classes, in regards to ciliization, it's actually vague.
How do Barbarians bury their Dead? Tomb? Funeral ship? Funeral pyre?
Who is the head of the Rathma Society?
WIth the Zakarum restablishing themselves in the West (Westmarch) who is the Que-Hegan there?
Who is the leader of the Barbarian clans? Is it still one person (used to be Bul Kathos)?
Who are the leader of the mage clans?
THese are thingsyou won't find anywhere (yet).
We don't know them exactly, but in one of the books it talks of an elder council of Necromancers who test the young ones before they pass as 'graduated' necromancers, possibly consisting of five members (from what I remember). Or maybe three. And one of them is a shade.
The best you could find is a half answer or a hint. Being that this thread is suppose to be for concrete questions and their answers, that would defy the point.
However said questions, I hope in time do get answered, I would really like to know the answers.
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-Humankind cannot gain anything without first giving something in return. To obtain, something of equal value must be lost. That is alchemy's First Law of Equivalent Exchange. In those days, we really believed that to be the world's one, and only, truth.
Please note that theories don't belong here, but no, I don't Diablo can really split himself up.
Note that in Kingdom of Shadow, Diablo was never actually there. The 'image' of Diablo was conjured by Lord Khan, and was only an immitation of his memory of the Diablo in disguise as an Archangel. While the events of Kingdom of Shadow took place, Diablo was running over Sanctuary freeing his brothers.
Edit: I updated the front page so that every question and answer is now listed there.
I'm not 100% positive but I thought that in Act 5 Tyrial tells you that the Worldstone is the link between the Mortal Realm and Heavan/Hell. I am currenly playing through D2 again so I will update when I find it. But can anyone verify?
Lore wise, was anything ever revealed about any of the mercs from Acts 2 and 3? Anything more than what the NPC's told us?
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I'm not 100% positive but I thought that in Act 5 Tyrial tells you that the Worldstone is the link between the Mortal Realm and Heavan/Hell. I am currenly playing through D2 again so I will update when I find it. But can anyone verify?
Ok so this is from Wiki
During the end of Act 5, Tyrael destroys the Worldstone in order to prevent Baal from corrupting it any further. He claims that this will prevent the forces of hell from flooding into the mortal world - by destroying the Worldstone, its uncorrupted energies will be released and spread throughout the world of Sanctuary, thus maintaining the boundaries between Sanctuary, the High Heavens, and Hell. As Tyrael is probably the angel pictured on Diablo III's website, it is likely that Tyrael and the consequences of the Worldstone's destruction will play a major role in that game.
Just a small technical question. How is it that the act of removing Baal's soulstone from Tal'Rusha's chest was what seemingly allowed Baal to fully possess him and escape? This seems especially odd since the pre-expansion epilogue cinematic suggests that Baal needed to get the exact same soulstone back to obtain his full powers (well he wanted it back anyway whatever the reason).
There's not specific lore about this, but I think that's because of the spell that Tyrael cast on the stone that hold Tal Rasha prisoner.
I believe it safe to simply say that by removing the Soulstone out of Tal Rasha's chest, Marius must have distrupted the spell hallowing Baal/Tal Rasha to escape.
You could say that the essence Baal was spread in two halves, one half in Tal Rasha and the rest inside the Soulstone, that's why he needed it back.
Well yeah needing it back makes perfect sense, both to re-obtain any last remnants of his soul left behind and also because of the supposed power of the stones that the Three hope to harness. It was just the removal that didn't seem to fit.
The other two were only able to possess a body when they were impaled by the soulstone but Baal seemed to be the other way around, he was trapped with the soulstone still in, but was released when it was removed.
WAIT! I get it now. The spell you're talking about is the spell they used to essentially turn him into a soulstone (or an extension thereof) allowing him to contain whatever part of the soul didn't fit in the shard, so by removing the stone that spell was disrupted and it acted exactly the same way as if a regular soulstone had been shattered.
Love it! Thanks, feel much better now, that question was pissing me off
The second part of his question says ciliizations. While that is primarily the classes, in regards to ciliization, it's actually vague.
How do Barbarians bury their Dead? Tomb? Funeral ship? Funeral pyre?
Who is the head of the Rathma Society?
WIth the Zakarum restablishing themselves in the West (Westmarch) who is the Que-Hegan there?
Who is the leader of the Barbarian clans? Is it still one person (used to be Bul Kathos)?
Who are the leader of the mage clans?
THese are thingsyou won't find anywhere (yet).
Barbarians - I can't 100% recall and I believe I read it in one of the books perhaps... although don't quote me on this one, I believe they are prone to burning their dead.
You ask who is the head of the Rathma Society... if you speak of the head of the necromancers in general, that would be none other than... well... Rathma, son of Inarius and Lilith. With guidance from Trang'Oul he was really the first of the necromancers. (From the Sin War Books) As far as who would lead it in terms of mortals on Sanctuary, given the nature of their pact, I'm not really sure there would be a leader. There are elders, but other than that, I believe they regard eachother mostly as equals.
Que-Hegan, wasn't that the fellow with the unique light plate armor... other than that, I don't really have an idea.
Ah yes, Bul-Kathos... also in the sin war books, if I'm not mistaken, he is a Nehalem, brother to Rathma. I'm not sure he technically ever died... he was sleeping inside the earth protecting the arreat platue... and then Uldysian and Rathma awoke him... and then I think he proceeded to crumble away... not really sure if that constitutes death.
Leader of the mage clans... I think the books may have referenced a leader, but never exactly mentioned one. In the sin war books, when Uldyssian attempts to reason with the mage clans, he was met with a large council. I think perhaps that it is this council who rules, not any one specific person, the mages tend to stab eachother in the back and do what ever they can to get ahead in life or their studies... and so, I'm not sure either one of them would trust another enough to be the sole leader.
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Interesting. Cool info. IS this from the books and what not?
Another question I have is about all the types of classes listed in Sanctuary, And all the civilizations.
Fuck you, I'm a dragon.
I really never got involved fully in the Diablo universe. Ive played all the games just never read the books so I'm not 100% on everything.
Fuck you, I'm a dragon.
Yes, largely. I simlified, and paraphrased.
The Paladin
The Knights of Westmarch who felled the armies of mighty Leoric are pure at heart and closely follow the teachings of Zakarum, the Religion of the Light. A battle-ready warrior for whom faith is a shield, the Paladin fights for what he believes to be right. His steadfastness gives him powers to bestow blessings to his friends and wreak cruel justice on foes. There are those who call the Paladin an overwrought zealot, but others recognize in him the strength and goodness of the Light.
During the mid-twelfth century, after the Church of Zakarum had gained prominence in the East, the Church decreed that the visions of Akarat would be spread throughout the known world in order to redeem the masses. Thus, the Church selected a group of its most charismatic and devoted priests and sent them on a mission to proselytize the people of the West. [/quote][quote]Unfortunately, the Church had not prepared these men for the rigors of travel nor the hazards of the world. The priests who survived their missions recounted tales of harsh weather, inadequate supplies, attacks from bandits and even encounters with horrible monsters. To ensure the success of future missions, the Church set about training holy warriors, Paladins, to accompany and safeguard their missionaries. In practice, these "Protectors of the Word" proved to be more successful at converting the native peoples than the Priests that they were assigned to defend.
Impressing the locals with daring deeds, powerful weapons, and martial prowess was far more convincing than the condemnations of a soft-spoken monk. However, once the Word had been spread to every major city of the West, the "Protectors of the Word" faded from public view.
Some decades later, Paladins were again called into service. During the height of the Time of Troubles, the Church commenced a second campaign of conversion. This time, however, the inconvincible were deemed evil. The Zakarum Inquisition spread through the lands like a tempest, laying waste to all suspected of demonic possession or corruption. Leading this crusade was a new generation of Paladins, known as the "Hand of Zakarum." These cavaliers of righteousness swept through the lands, expunging the taint of demonic contamination wherever they found it.
In the midst of this bloody crusade, a rebellion arose within the ranks of the Paladins of Zakarum. The rebels condemned the methods of the Inquisition, proclaiming that the new Order of Paladins should protect the innocent, and that the evil corruption was rooted in their forebear's failure. They resolved to fight the true source of corruption, the Three Prime Evils - Diablo, Baal and Mephisto. And so, these rebellious Paladins left their Zakarum brethren and ventured west.
As for all the civilizations that is next to impossible since both the Barbarian and necromancers are vaguely described, we don't really know all the the rite and rituals of both classes.
Thanks man I appreciate it.
Ah no biggie I wasn't sure on how much info was available.
You might be pleasantly surprised how much info is there. Shame people don't view it more often.
How do Barbarians bury their Dead? Tomb? Funeral ship? Funeral pyre?
Who is the head of the Rathma Society?
WIth the Zakarum restablishing themselves in the West (Westmarch) who is the Que-Hegan there?
Who is the leader of the Barbarian clans? Is it still one person (used to be Bul Kathos)?
Who are the leader of the mage clans?
THese are thingsyou won't find anywhere (yet).
We don't know them exactly, but in one of the books it talks of an elder council of Necromancers who test the young ones before they pass as 'graduated' necromancers, possibly consisting of five members (from what I remember). Or maybe three. And one of them is a shade.
The best you could find is a half answer or a hint. Being that this thread is suppose to be for concrete questions and their answers, that would defy the point.
However said questions, I hope in time do get answered, I would really like to know the answers.
Note that in Kingdom of Shadow, Diablo was never actually there. The 'image' of Diablo was conjured by Lord Khan, and was only an immitation of his memory of the Diablo in disguise as an Archangel. While the events of Kingdom of Shadow took place, Diablo was running over Sanctuary freeing his brothers.
Edit: I updated the front page so that every question and answer is now listed there.
Lore wise, was anything ever revealed about any of the mercs from Acts 2 and 3? Anything more than what the NPC's told us?
GIEV D3 INFOZ NAO! ( <---Poster from the official Bnet Forums)
"I'm sure that in time, every bit of her will be gone and her death will be a mystery... even to me."-Secret Window
Ok so this is from Wiki
During the end of Act 5, Tyrael destroys the Worldstone in order to prevent Baal from corrupting it any further. He claims that this will prevent the forces of hell from flooding into the mortal world - by destroying the Worldstone, its uncorrupted energies will be released and spread throughout the world of Sanctuary, thus maintaining the boundaries between Sanctuary, the High Heavens, and Hell. As Tyrael is probably the angel pictured on Diablo III's website, it is likely that Tyrael and the consequences of the Worldstone's destruction will play a major role in that game.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Tyrael
I believe it safe to simply say that by removing the Soulstone out of Tal Rasha's chest, Marius must have distrupted the spell hallowing Baal/Tal Rasha to escape.
You could say that the essence Baal was spread in two halves, one half in Tal Rasha and the rest inside the Soulstone, that's why he needed it back.
The other two were only able to possess a body when they were impaled by the soulstone but Baal seemed to be the other way around, he was trapped with the soulstone still in, but was released when it was removed.
WAIT! I get it now. The spell you're talking about is the spell they used to essentially turn him into a soulstone (or an extension thereof) allowing him to contain whatever part of the soul didn't fit in the shard, so by removing the stone that spell was disrupted and it acted exactly the same way as if a regular soulstone had been shattered.
Love it! Thanks, feel much better now, that question was pissing me off
Uldyssian, to allow human beings more obtainable power.
His Hair Was PERFECT!!!
Barbarians - I can't 100% recall and I believe I read it in one of the books perhaps... although don't quote me on this one, I believe they are prone to burning their dead.
You ask who is the head of the Rathma Society... if you speak of the head of the necromancers in general, that would be none other than... well... Rathma, son of Inarius and Lilith. With guidance from Trang'Oul he was really the first of the necromancers. (From the Sin War Books) As far as who would lead it in terms of mortals on Sanctuary, given the nature of their pact, I'm not really sure there would be a leader. There are elders, but other than that, I believe they regard eachother mostly as equals.
Que-Hegan, wasn't that the fellow with the unique light plate armor... other than that, I don't really have an idea.
Ah yes, Bul-Kathos... also in the sin war books, if I'm not mistaken, he is a Nehalem, brother to Rathma. I'm not sure he technically ever died... he was sleeping inside the earth protecting the arreat platue... and then Uldysian and Rathma awoke him... and then I think he proceeded to crumble away... not really sure if that constitutes death.
Leader of the mage clans... I think the books may have referenced a leader, but never exactly mentioned one. In the sin war books, when Uldyssian attempts to reason with the mage clans, he was met with a large council. I think perhaps that it is this council who rules, not any one specific person, the mages tend to stab eachother in the back and do what ever they can to get ahead in life or their studies... and so, I'm not sure either one of them would trust another enough to be the sole leader.