Should demons have genitals? I'm not really talking about the sexual factor, just the realistic/demonic factor. I'm being mature here, you should too.
Its not something that is completely noticable anyway, but its something I'd like to know what you think. I know demons don't reproduce like we do, but they still have genitals. There'd be no such thing as succubi (or incubi) without them.
It does make sense to make them like that, considering demons relate to reptiles very well. Also it would make the rating go down. But, do we want the rating down? This is not a childs game. But still, even adults/teenagers feel awkward when we see them. It could turn people away from it. Then again, there are already some in the game, and people still love it.
- Yes, give all demons their respective genitals
lol. Apparently Baals Minions already have them. (Though I think its far too big and too noticeable). Wait, is this picture of Baal's Minion even real? Why isn't his penis in shadow? I got it from Arreat Summit, but it could be a joke thing. I mean, Arreat Summit also have the Reziafg, which is apparently an inside joke with them (not really in game).
Do demons with real genitals seem more realistic? Our minds make a stronger connection between the demons and humans in this way, which (for me atleast) makes them seem scarier because they seem similar to men, except bigger, stronger, tougher, and so seem like they really could kill me. With realistic parts, they seem like they aren't just animated imagination - which is what I think of whenever I think about the subject. "Oh, the animators just chose to leave it out, for the best I suppose". But is it really for the best?
Though, choosing this option also means that Diablo would gain a penis lol. But is that pushing it too far? If you watch the cinematic where the Wanderer transforms into Diablo, there is a clear shot of Diablo's groin lol, and so would it be gross to see something there? It also makes diablo seem less scary because he is less human-like, and so less real and more made up. I've never really feared diablo, apart from the fact that he's a high level, but I would fear a fallen that was higher level than me just as much. But it might also make him less scary because of seeing it, depends how its done.
- Yes, give the minor demons genitals but not the Great Evils/cinematics.
The same as above, but not including Diablo and his brothers, and any other demon that we see up close in a cinematic.
This is pretty much what Blizzard has already done (atleast in LoD), so they will probably continue down this path anyway.
However, if the Baal's Minion picture is not real, then you vote that its something that should be implemented into the next game.
My vote:
I think Blizzard made the right choice - minor demons should have them, but not the Great Evils - or atleast, not while they are in a cinematic or else the detail would just be unecessary.
When I think of a demon with horns and scales and genitals, I think "HOly fuck, that was a man once, but he has transformed himself into something more powerful! Run!"
But without them, it just reminds me of something thats meant to be scary but has been dimmed down for a younger audience. "Oh, okay, he looks pretty scary, I think I'll kill him now - wait, maybe I should level up first?"
I don't recall ever seeing genitals on Baal's Minions. Maybe I just didn't notice or Arreat Summit is playing a joke. Anyway, cinematically, genitals shouldn't be there, because sometimes the cinematic view would "zoom" and we would get large amounts of detail. Many people, including me would be repulsed.
Also, in going with genitals in minor demons, I doubt it will be cartoonish like WoW, because, can you imagine cartoons running around with genitals? The game would be bashed. Since I was realistic graphics, going with some genitals would generally secure my hopes. Atrumentis, this is actually quite an interesting topic in my opinion.
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lol, oh yeah, it also depends on the graphics. If its cartoony then yea, it wouldn't really fit, there would be seriousness contradicting with non-seriousness.
It is an interesting thought, but its likely that everyone would agree with what Blizzard has already done anyway - except if the picture of Baal's Minion is fake, then it would be something to change or make more of, because most minor demons are like dinosaurs. I'll put in some more pictures.
I think i've seen another picture of a demon with a penis-type of thing too lol, I'll see if I can find it.
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EDIT: who voted to keep them like dinos, I wonder?
also, I looked through the beastery, and Baal's Minion is the only one. I think it is fake. Its way too obvious too, as if we would not notice it lol.
If you really want to make things more realistic then you have to include it. And why wouldn't you put it there, they don't make these kinds of games for 12 year olds anyways. So my vote is yes.
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i havent voted on the poll and probably wont. but if you think of lilith and lucion. who are the son of mephisto. how the hell were they concepted. and another thing diablo isnt about seeing demons genitals. its about killing demons. ya all demons even the prime evils probably have genitals but they dont need to put them in a game.
I think it depends on the type of demon. Some reproduce by splitting in half, obviously they wouldn't need to have visible genitals, assuming they even have any to speak of. If the demon is very humanoid, such as a Minotaur, then yes it should have visible genitals.
Anyone read Berserk?
NOOOOOOOOO! NEVER! thats just gay and disturbing. seeing Diablo with a penis? NO!
Well you might be able to get away with not showing Diablo's, we really have nothing concrete to say he can reproduce, Mephisto can/has, so I imagine his should probably be visible.
Of course on the upside I suppose this would push the games rating a little higher, thus lessening the number of younger children playing the game and filling your screen with really childish name calling and other thing 12 year olds do. Guess I don't run into many of them, as I have only heard about what they do, never seen it.
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I just say no because i really don't need to see that when playing a game. It's not important. Though it really doesn't matter because Blizzard will probably never do that as its just kinda stupid to put them in there.
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No actually i never did until this thread was made. I never noticed really anything in the game other than me killing demons and pools of blood on the ground. This thread has now become very strange so I'm going to finish my point.
Genitals on demons are not needed. They are unnecessary as they do not add anything to the game. Keep the game the way it is and don't waste time adding pointless details such as genitals.
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Somehow I don't think that is a tail between his legs.
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-Humankind cannot gain anything without first giving something in return. To obtain, something of equal value must be lost. That is alchemy's First Law of Equivalent Exchange. In those days, we really believed that to be the world's one, and only, truth.
It's part of the understood anatomy of angels. Demons, being angels, are also inequipped.(Haven't you seen Dogma? xD) That picture, Elfen, is very stupid. I don't understand why Blizz put that in there.
It's part of the understood anatomy of angels. Demons, being angels, are also inequipped.(Haven't you seen Dogma? xD)
That depends on the source material. Yes they are anatomically incorrect in Dogma, but if you were to read the manga for Berserk, you would see lots of the demons do infact have gentials.
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-Humankind cannot gain anything without first giving something in return. To obtain, something of equal value must be lost. That is alchemy's First Law of Equivalent Exchange. In those days, we really believed that to be the world's one, and only, truth.
Its not something that is completely noticable anyway, but its something I'd like to know what you think. I know demons don't reproduce like we do, but they still have genitals. There'd be no such thing as succubi (or incubi) without them.
Here are reasons for or against each answer:
- No, keep them like dinosaurs (or cover them up)
example images: http://diablo2.ingame.de/spiel/akte/pics/akt4_diablo.jpg
http://www.calacademy.org/exhibits/dinos/images/field_guide_trex.jpg
It does make sense to make them like that, considering demons relate to reptiles very well. Also it would make the rating go down. But, do we want the rating down? This is not a childs game. But still, even adults/teenagers feel awkward when we see them. It could turn people away from it. Then again, there are already some in the game, and people still love it.
- Yes, give all demons their respective genitals
lol. Apparently Baals Minions already have them. (Though I think its far too big and too noticeable). Wait, is this picture of Baal's Minion even real? Why isn't his penis in shadow? I got it from Arreat Summit, but it could be a joke thing. I mean, Arreat Summit also have the Reziafg, which is apparently an inside joke with them (not really in game).
Do demons with real genitals seem more realistic? Our minds make a stronger connection between the demons and humans in this way, which (for me atleast) makes them seem scarier because they seem similar to men, except bigger, stronger, tougher, and so seem like they really could kill me. With realistic parts, they seem like they aren't just animated imagination - which is what I think of whenever I think about the subject. "Oh, the animators just chose to leave it out, for the best I suppose". But is it really for the best?
Though, choosing this option also means that Diablo would gain a penis lol. But is that pushing it too far? If you watch the cinematic where the Wanderer transforms into Diablo, there is a clear shot of Diablo's groin lol, and so would it be gross to see something there? It also makes diablo seem less scary because he is less human-like, and so less real and more made up. I've never really feared diablo, apart from the fact that he's a high level, but I would fear a fallen that was higher level than me just as much. But it might also make him less scary because of seeing it, depends how its done.
- Yes, give the minor demons genitals but not the Great Evils/cinematics.
The same as above, but not including Diablo and his brothers, and any other demon that we see up close in a cinematic.
This is pretty much what Blizzard has already done (atleast in LoD), so they will probably continue down this path anyway.
However, if the Baal's Minion picture is not real, then you vote that its something that should be implemented into the next game.
My vote:
I think Blizzard made the right choice - minor demons should have them, but not the Great Evils - or atleast, not while they are in a cinematic or else the detail would just be unecessary.
When I think of a demon with horns and scales and genitals, I think "HOly fuck, that was a man once, but he has transformed himself into something more powerful! Run!"
But without them, it just reminds me of something thats meant to be scary but has been dimmed down for a younger audience. "Oh, okay, he looks pretty scary, I think I'll kill him now - wait, maybe I should level up first?"
Thats just me though, what do you think?
Also, in going with genitals in minor demons, I doubt it will be cartoonish like WoW, because, can you imagine cartoons running around with genitals? The game would be bashed. Since I was realistic graphics, going with some genitals would generally secure my hopes. Atrumentis, this is actually quite an interesting topic in my opinion.
It's the decisions you make when you have no time to make them that define who you are.
It is an interesting thought, but its likely that everyone would agree with what Blizzard has already done anyway - except if the picture of Baal's Minion is fake, then it would be something to change or make more of, because most minor demons are like dinosaurs. I'll put in some more pictures.
I think i've seen another picture of a demon with a penis-type of thing too lol, I'll see if I can find it.
wow, I'm in your sig, cool.
EDIT: who voted to keep them like dinos, I wonder?
also, I looked through the beastery, and Baal's Minion is the only one. I think it is fake. Its way too obvious too, as if we would not notice it lol.
It seems that it also has breasts. And a penis?
It's the decisions you make when you have no time to make them that define who you are.
Not sure how would that look in 3D, tho...
To find the truth, you must risk everything.
Anyone read Berserk?
Well you might be able to get away with not showing Diablo's, we really have nothing concrete to say he can reproduce, Mephisto can/has, so I imagine his should probably be visible.
Of course on the upside I suppose this would push the games rating a little higher, thus lessening the number of younger children playing the game and filling your screen with really childish name calling and other thing 12 year olds do. Guess I don't run into many of them, as I have only heard about what they do, never seen it.
Genitals on demons are not needed. They are unnecessary as they do not add anything to the game. Keep the game the way it is and don't waste time adding pointless details such as genitals.
Somehow I don't think that is a tail between his legs.
Please don't do that
Good point. Demons and angels don't normally reproduce last time I checked so there is no need for them to have genitals.
That would be very disturbing.
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That depends on the source material. Yes they are anatomically incorrect in Dogma, but if you were to read the manga for Berserk, you would see lots of the demons do infact have gentials.