Hello, I am a mature female gamer who has been playing video games since before kindergarten and PC games since not too long after that. I am currently playing my third Diablo installment on Inferno difficulty as a crit-specced DH.
I like to livestream for the social element. NOT HANDOUTS OR FLIRTING. This is not spam, I just didn't know how to find other like-minded players, so here I am. I promise to be more active in the forums than just this post, but I am pressed for time between work and my dog and my gaming habit.
not to be a douche or anything but what does you being female have to do with anything
Being female has to do with everything. Everyone just pretends it doesn't because they're afraid of being called sexist
This is a discussion I have had numerous times with other gamers. The cold, hard truth is that there is an overwhelming majority of men in hardcore gaming. Now, that is not to say that women don't game--clearly we do--duh. And a lot of us don't go online and stream b/c of the infantile comments we get like "go back to the kitchen" and "show your boobs" kind of stuff. Or when you see one do it it's such a clear money grab with paypal donation links and begging for gear, etc, that it's a bad representation of women in gaming.
And sometimes it's just better not to identify one's gender in gaming b/c you do get flamed for it or get "bad attention" as I call it. That is you get stuck playing with gamers who can't treat you like a person anymore. So yeah, it's a risky thing to admit.
You're damned if you do, damned if you don't, but I personally like to identify as female. I want other gamers to know that there are hardcore women gamers and we are not shy to be ourselves --and we are not asking for money/gold/gear/sugardaddies, etc... I like social play and interacting with others while I game. It's more fun for me, that's my personality.
It *is* special to be a woman gamer as we are a small minority of gamers, so I proudly and emphatically list it as part of my identity. Love it or hate it, it is what it is.
edit: Thank you for your honesty, Mormolyce. I think asking why gender-identification in gaming matters to someone is blatantly insincere.
i guess all male gamers should now title their streams as "Male Gamer Streaming" since gender identity is sooooo important then. The fact that you are a woman makes no difference to anyone but morons who like you said leave stupid ass comments like "get back to the kitchen and show your boobs". Like i said i wasnt trying to be an asshole because i could have clearly been a bigger dick then what i was precieved to be. I was just curious as to why it was important that your thread title had to annouce that you're a girl.
And i just want to point out i dont look at people as male and female when it comes to youtube videos and live streams all i see is a person who enjoys playing video games just like myself.
*Recalls link a friend sent him to a female "LoL" streamer who just had her cleavage covering the middle 75% of her screen, adjusting her boobs constantly. I wanted to see picks/bans!
Good luck in Inferno, let me know how you play DH nowadays and how it works out since I can't watch streams at work :< well i can, but i don't. well="" i="" can,="" but="" i=""> well i can, but i don't.>
I thought girls being attention whores in gaming communities was totally last decade.
edit.. i should clarify before catching flak.
Girl gamers are great, my gf plays tons of games, my hard-mode DS progression raid group in wow was 4/10 girls, i've even been on competitive CS:S teams with girls... and I don't think any of them combined made as much of a fuss about gender as the OP here did.
It doesn't matter if you are male, female, black, white, it is your deeds that matter.
Walking the talk is so much harder though. Do you really follow 24/7 what you're promoting here? I doubt it.
That is up to you, but I hope to think I do (admittedly we all have our blind spots and none of us are saints). I work in a high tech start-up with more women than men, we are 5 different nationalities and as an inhabitant of the Netherlands I have been raised to be tolerant to other cultures (though I am very sad to say the attitude in the Netherlands is becoming less tolerant). Just open your eyes. What we are is governed by chance, where we were born is governed by chance, so, keeping the differences intact is just plain silly.
"I like to livestream for the social element. NOT HANDOUTS OR FLIRTING."
Well, I guess I won't mention my gender if it offends people so much or brands me as an "attention whore" as Meown puts it, rather unkindly.
What kind of response would I have received if I just wrote "mature gamer" with no gender instead? I can't help wondering, if a male gamer posted with "mature male gamer", would he receive such criticism and scorn for posting his gender? It seems to be one-sided and rather presumptuous to assume that a woman gamer identifying her gender is doing it for purely sexual purposes. In fact, a lot of these comments just serve to reinforce my views about gender identity being problematic in the gaming community. Though, not always
Edit: And of course I want attention: That is why I posted to forums and have a stream going. But the kind of attention I want is very different from what some of you have indicated I want. I've already explained that in an earlier post, so not going to regurgitate the gemeinschaft and gesellschaft of gaming via streaming again.
You could have put "Demon Hunter in Inferno Act x Streaming Now", but you know that wouldn't get the attention you wanted.
So yes, you are the one attempting to exploit sexuallity for stream views.. aka attention whoring. As I said, I play with many highly skilled girl gamers and they don't ever need to bring gender or sexuality into the discussion because they're not trying to get guys to pay attention to them.
And to give you an objective opinion, I showed my girlfriend your first post and simply asked what she thought of it. She said that it was weird that you would mention being a girl. I then asked "would you be more or less inclined to watch the stream knowing she's a girl?" and her response was "it's clear she's just begging for attention, why would I want to watch that".