its quite simple. WoW made MMORPGs extremely popular. EQ and UO were there before it, some played (and paid ofc) some ofthers didnt. Now cause there are some people (like the one that started this thread) that are too cheap to pay for a game (note i'm saying cheap, not poor) they try to make it look bad so they wont feel too shit about not paying for it. Since WoW is the game that started this trend, they all "hate" it.
PPM is definately not a good reason to quit a game, unless its undeniable the worst game ever created. WoW is byfar my favorite MMO out of the several i have played in the past, as it is very entertaining and such. yes the questing system seems like theres only a few different kinds of quests, but when I get bored of that, i always go on tradeskill rants and rep-farming rants for the hell of it. theres ways to keep the game interesting even after you feel like it could not possibly get any more boring. I play a priest, not a shadow priest, a holy priest. and I have multiple priests on any given server. they are my favorite class. and rarely will i make them into the totally dominant and destructive power that is shadow. Im very group oriented, it helps the game move along faster and keep interesting.
While I do love Diablo and D2LOD, and that series is probably my favorite of all time, I do not think a "boycott" of wow for any reason would help our much-anticipated release of D3 come any sooner. paying for wow helps the service in wow better, with better fixes, more updates, better quality gaming experience alltogether. And as far as we know, the profit from WOW may actually be a big funder of our D3 developement. at the moment, theres not anything else that i could think of that could generate enough capital to fund D3 or SC2(although i never did care about SC at all.....). So really, if you want D3 to come out sooner, and you like WC, it might be a good idea to sign up for wow instead of boycotting it. Its a pretty good game, and its blizzard so it will help tie you down until D3 releases, and if you let yourself beleive its actually funding D3 then it will make you feel a lot better as well.
just my 2 copper opinion, hope i dont get bashed too hard lol
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perhaps wirt had more legs. maybe he sat around waiting for the right time to distribute them, and now that he is dead, they have been scattered around the world.... who really knows the exact number of legs that wirt had?
looks more like a 10g opinion to me
and i also agree with you. But i wouldnt only play this game to "fund" Diablo 3. I keep playing it cause its simply the best around and the only to keep my interest for so long.
WOW is a great game, just not with the Pay Per month function.
wouldnt be half as good without the maintenance and additional content that comes from our monthly fees. In 2 years it had over 10 major updates and an expansion. Not bad, eh?
i have to pretty much say your wrong their..... have you ever played Guild Wars? it still gets updated every month or so with no PPM just 2 expansions PPM is not for updates or anything.... its for Blizzard cash also known as that Christmas Bonus... PPM is a great idea for the company but only if their are dumb@$$3$ that will pay for it.... sry if i am too harsh..
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Guild Wars isnt the classic MMORPG. Its mainly instanced, u only get to see people in town that pretty much works like a chat channel. I have no idea how often their servers get maintenanced too, but what i know is they dont add content patches in Guild Wars. They sell them as expansions. See, with the instances, bosses, new quest lines, additions to the lore WoW had with their patches, another company would have made 2-3 expansions. And the one expansion they offered for money is immense. Imagine that we're the most hardcore guild of my server. After the release we're still not over the tier 4 content yet (1 boss missing - and tier 4 content is the "easiest" raiding content in the expansion as there's tier 5 already and tier 6 to be implemented with the new patch).
See, the Guild Wars team said they'd not add a monthly fee (their words) but they'll charge each expansion like a full game and they'll make one every 6 months to finance it. About patches that not only fix bugs but also add weapons, armor sets, instances etc they didnt say a thing.
And Guild Wars is too simple and small. how many people can play together? 8? 10? In PvE at least, since i dont like PvP that much. You cant raid with 40 people with you there. Or 25 even now that they lowered the raiding cap. Thats not "massive". And since most are happy for paying their money to get the services Blizzard offers, who the fuck are you to judge them? (both us and the company). Its your personal offer so stop offending or shut the fuck up.
its quite simple. WoW made MMORPGs extremely popular. EQ and UO were there before it, some played (and paid ofc) some ofthers didnt. Now cause there are some people (like the one that started this thread) that are too cheap to pay for a game (note i'm saying cheap, not poor) they try to make it look bad so they wont feel too shit about not paying for it. Since WoW is the game that started this trend, they all "hate" it.
People hate World of warcraft because its a waste of money. I'M not willign to pay for that game because of all the reasons as Ive said before. I think itsa ripoff to pay for it when you could play Diablo 2 and not have to pay a dime for it, except for the cost. Blizzard NORTH did the service of setting up battle.net for a reason- Blizzard itself is cheap and sucks at making quality games- and if any of you out there know the history of Blizzard and Blizzard North youll know what I mean- Blizzard North made the Diablo and Starcraft games whereas blizzard in america made Warcraft- which turned out to be alright until WoW. And, FingolfnGR, you have to be pretty lonely to come on here everyday all the damn time and "own" everyone as you say. I bet in real life you wouldnt be owning anyone. Like I said before, big imagination. Imaginary points- WoW isnt a conspiracy man, people just plain dont like it because it turns people into wasteful slobs like you.
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Stars aligning fragments of the memories
Parallel truth, awaken in translucence
Sealed by this deadened song
Sinking in toneless comatose
Come and tear my skin, fear what's within
Its massive darkness filling my world
Submerged rage writing unspoken words
Why dont you try moving your ass form your computer chair once and awhile and go run, or do something constructive for your physical health and community- I wokr out, I help elderly people, I ride the bus to my girlfriends and spend time with her- I jog sometimes. In fact, I havent played a video game in months, a long long time. I think once you recover form your state of minimal function, and obscurity, you will see theres a vast world out there you can discover by walking outside your door and taking a breathe of the outside air once in awhile. I know I dont know you personally, but you seem like the kind of lonely guy who needs some friends outside of your raiding party.
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Stars aligning fragments of the memories
Parallel truth, awaken in translucence
Sealed by this deadened song
Sinking in toneless comatose
Come and tear my skin, fear what's within
Its massive darkness filling my world
Submerged rage writing unspoken words
If you don't want or can't pay to play, don't, no one forces you. If you don't like the game - don't play it. There are tons of games I don't like. Everybody loves DooM, and I think that game sucks. That doesn't mean I will go around saying "let's boycott DooM!"...
How does that relate to WoW in particular? You can spend tons of hours on any game.
And I play lacrosse, in case you want to know. And I wonder what you do, to me, the world is composed of school-home-practice-homework-sleep-school-home-practice-holidays, and that later evolves into work-home-work-home-work-home-holiday... sure, you can do something in between, like play the guitar, learn something else, draw, whatever, but how much time do you have for it? Not all that much.
People hate World of warcraft because its a waste of money.
waste of money for who? those that think its a waste of money shouldnt play. if they do play and still think its a waste of money, something's wrong.
I'M not willign to pay for that game because of all the reasons as Ive said before.
so dont. none of your "reasons" were valid except personal taste, which you did not mention.
think itsa ripoff to pay for it when you could play Diablo 2 and not have to pay a dime for it
you never played WoW, so you dont know the difference in quality of the services provided. Lag free, hack free environment. Nothing like Battle.net. Plus Battle.net got some of their profits from simple chat channel ads (the ones on top of the screen). WoW is a game that doesnt have "chat rooms". You log onto the game and play. Oh, and there cant be a comparison of the numbers of the WoW servers and the battle.net ones. Nor of the security there is in there. Also forgot to mention there are people hired by Blizzard to assist us customers too 24/7. Is there anything like it in "free" battle.net? You're too cheap and too dumb. In total ur pathetic.
if any of you out there know the history of Blizzard and Blizzard North youll know what I mean- Blizzard North made the Diablo and Starcraft games whereas blizzard in america made Warcraft- which turned out to be alright until WoW
actually, it turns up you dont know history. Blizzard North worked on Diablo, Diablo 2 and LoD. Blizzard "America" (there isnt such thing) worked on Warcraft series AND Starcraft. Both developed in Irvine.
And, FingolfnGR, you have to be pretty lonely to come on here everyday all the damn time and "own" everyone as you say. I bet in real life you wouldnt be owning anyone. Like I said before, big imagination. Imaginary points- WoW isnt a conspiracy man, people just plain dont like it because it turns people into wasteful slobs like you.
personal attacks, how nice. thats prolly the lack of any valid points to support your assumptions. You dont know me in person so you dont know who i am or what i'm doing. Perhaps i'm writing here from my work, thought of that you dumbass? But no, you cant think, you're an idiot.
Owning in debates works for me both real life and virtual (if you know what this is). Try to use valid points to support your opinion. I do, you undereducated fuck have no idea how to do it.
Why dont you try moving your ass form your computer chair once and awhile and go run, or do something constructive for your physical health and community
again: you have no idea what i'm doing with my real life. You just assume things. I have a life and friends and everything, it just doesnt have a place in here.
I wokr out, I help elderly people, I ride the bus to my girlfriends and spend time with her- I jog sometimes
And why do you think i care you big fuck? You just want to make yourself look good virtually. See, i dont (even though you say i care) and you do. How pathetic does it make you?
In fact, I havent played a video game in months, a long long time
then get your ass out of a video game site. Since you dont care you wouldnt miss it either. And we'd definitely not miss you.
I know I dont know you personally, but you seem like the kind of lonely guy who needs some friends outside of your raiding party.
i'd go raid your "girlfriends" bed if it wasnt that far away from where i live. You know nothing about me, so dont allow yourself assumptions about me or my life.
To me gaming is a hobby. Something i enjoy spending FREE time on. So spare me and everyone else with your lectures about life etc. You dont know shit anyway.
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Needing a good PvM build, mainly for baal runs. PM me for more info.
East player only.
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its quite simple. WoW made MMORPGs extremely popular. EQ and UO were there before it, some played (and paid ofc) some ofthers didnt. Now cause there are some people (like the one that started this thread) that are too cheap to pay for a game (note i'm saying cheap, not poor) they try to make it look bad so they wont feel too shit about not paying for it. Since WoW is the game that started this trend, they all "hate" it.
While I do love Diablo and D2LOD, and that series is probably my favorite of all time, I do not think a "boycott" of wow for any reason would help our much-anticipated release of D3 come any sooner. paying for wow helps the service in wow better, with better fixes, more updates, better quality gaming experience alltogether. And as far as we know, the profit from WOW may actually be a big funder of our D3 developement. at the moment, theres not anything else that i could think of that could generate enough capital to fund D3 or SC2(although i never did care about SC at all.....). So really, if you want D3 to come out sooner, and you like WC, it might be a good idea to sign up for wow instead of boycotting it. Its a pretty good game, and its blizzard so it will help tie you down until D3 releases, and if you let yourself beleive its actually funding D3 then it will make you feel a lot better as well.
just my 2 copper opinion, hope i dont get bashed too hard lol
perhaps wirt had more legs. maybe he sat around waiting for the right time to distribute them, and now that he is dead, they have been scattered around the world.... who really knows the exact number of legs that wirt had?
and i also agree with you. But i wouldnt only play this game to "fund" Diablo 3. I keep playing it cause its simply the best around and the only to keep my interest for so long.
Now to get this tier 5 set...
WOW is a great game, just not with the Pay Per month function.
And yes, PPM=Pay per month
/f a magik(OD)@useast
Clan ODD2@useast - Free baal/chaos runs
Needing a good PvM build, mainly for baal runs. PM me for more info.
East player only.
DIABLO 3 SUPPORTER
wouldnt be half as good without the maintenance and additional content that comes from our monthly fees. In 2 years it had over 10 major updates and an expansion. Not bad, eh?
See, the Guild Wars team said they'd not add a monthly fee (their words) but they'll charge each expansion like a full game and they'll make one every 6 months to finance it. About patches that not only fix bugs but also add weapons, armor sets, instances etc they didnt say a thing.
And Guild Wars is too simple and small. how many people can play together? 8? 10? In PvE at least, since i dont like PvP that much. You cant raid with 40 people with you there. Or 25 even now that they lowered the raiding cap. Thats not "massive". And since most are happy for paying their money to get the services Blizzard offers, who the fuck are you to judge them? (both us and the company). Its your personal offer so stop offending or shut the fuck up.
People hate World of warcraft because its a waste of money. I'M not willign to pay for that game because of all the reasons as Ive said before. I think itsa ripoff to pay for it when you could play Diablo 2 and not have to pay a dime for it, except for the cost. Blizzard NORTH did the service of setting up battle.net for a reason- Blizzard itself is cheap and sucks at making quality games- and if any of you out there know the history of Blizzard and Blizzard North youll know what I mean- Blizzard North made the Diablo and Starcraft games whereas blizzard in america made Warcraft- which turned out to be alright until WoW. And, FingolfnGR, you have to be pretty lonely to come on here everyday all the damn time and "own" everyone as you say. I bet in real life you wouldnt be owning anyone. Like I said before, big imagination. Imaginary points- WoW isnt a conspiracy man, people just plain dont like it because it turns people into wasteful slobs like you.
Parallel truth, awaken in translucence
Sealed by this deadened song
Sinking in toneless comatose
Come and tear my skin, fear what's within
Its massive darkness filling my world
Submerged rage writing unspoken words
Parallel truth, awaken in translucence
Sealed by this deadened song
Sinking in toneless comatose
Come and tear my skin, fear what's within
Its massive darkness filling my world
Submerged rage writing unspoken words
How does that relate to WoW in particular? You can spend tons of hours on any game.
And I play lacrosse, in case you want to know. And I wonder what you do, to me, the world is composed of school-home-practice-homework-sleep-school-home-practice-holidays, and that later evolves into work-home-work-home-work-home-holiday... sure, you can do something in between, like play the guitar, learn something else, draw, whatever, but how much time do you have for it? Not all that much.
waste of money for who? those that think its a waste of money shouldnt play. if they do play and still think its a waste of money, something's wrong.
so dont. none of your "reasons" were valid except personal taste, which you did not mention.
you never played WoW, so you dont know the difference in quality of the services provided. Lag free, hack free environment. Nothing like Battle.net. Plus Battle.net got some of their profits from simple chat channel ads (the ones on top of the screen). WoW is a game that doesnt have "chat rooms". You log onto the game and play. Oh, and there cant be a comparison of the numbers of the WoW servers and the battle.net ones. Nor of the security there is in there. Also forgot to mention there are people hired by Blizzard to assist us customers too 24/7. Is there anything like it in "free" battle.net? You're too cheap and too dumb. In total ur pathetic.
actually, it turns up you dont know history. Blizzard North worked on Diablo, Diablo 2 and LoD. Blizzard "America" (there isnt such thing) worked on Warcraft series AND Starcraft. Both developed in Irvine.
personal attacks, how nice. thats prolly the lack of any valid points to support your assumptions. You dont know me in person so you dont know who i am or what i'm doing. Perhaps i'm writing here from my work, thought of that you dumbass? But no, you cant think, you're an idiot.
Owning in debates works for me both real life and virtual (if you know what this is). Try to use valid points to support your opinion. I do, you undereducated fuck have no idea how to do it.
again: you have no idea what i'm doing with my real life. You just assume things. I have a life and friends and everything, it just doesnt have a place in here.
And why do you think i care you big fuck? You just want to make yourself look good virtually. See, i dont (even though you say i care) and you do. How pathetic does it make you?
then get your ass out of a video game site. Since you dont care you wouldnt miss it either. And we'd definitely not miss you.
i'd go raid your "girlfriends" bed if it wasnt that far away from where i live. You know nothing about me, so dont allow yourself assumptions about me or my life.
To me gaming is a hobby. Something i enjoy spending FREE time on. So spare me and everyone else with your lectures about life etc. You dont know shit anyway.