I get where you are coming from. Costs and all that. But you are taking up all 4 advertising spots with 1 ad.
As I said before, I am looking forward to Torchlight, I'm sure it will be a great game (minus some of the depth). But really, it is only, what, 3 guys who used to work for Blizz North? And weren't they booted from Blizz because they came up with a shoddy version and Blizz south didn't think it was up to quality. Anyways, I will surely get the game to support them, but I feel 2 ads for the game would be plenty.
That we covered our whole freakin front page with. Like I said, justify it however you want. That was not charity work.
You are right. Sixen said he put it up there to help the folks that designed Diablo 1+2, who now happen to design Torchlight. No reason to be angry, since it's not your website and you can easily ignore it.
The only reason this is true, is because Runic Games did a site buyout on Curse. They purchased all of the advertising spots. There's nothing I can do about this really. RG purchased the for sale ad spots, that is how business works. Curse sold them the ad spot, RG bought the ad spot, the ad shows up in the spot they purchased.
If I wanted to, I could have purchased the spot and put a giant picture of the Chat Gem there. And if it really bothers you that much, purchase the ad spot yourself... so I can put a picture of the Chat Gem there, ;).
Aaaaah. Well why didn't ya say that in the first place? That would make sense that Runic Games would buy as much ad space on Diablo fansites. They probably did the same over at Diii.net. I never really understood how adspace was actually handled, I figured that there was like some sort of pool that Dfans admins get to pick from for ad space, because I have only ever seen low end game ads, that I can remember. So basically our ad spots are the pool, and whoever wants it buys it, and there ain't nothing you can do about it.
It is nice to get the real answer as to why those ads are taking up all that space after only 30 posts.
Aaaaah. Well why didn't ya say that in the first place? That would make sense that Runic Games would buy as much ad space on Diablo fansites. They probably did the same over at Diii.net. I never really understood how adspace was actually handled, I figured that there was like some sort of pool that Dfans admins get to pick from for ad space, because I have only ever seen low end game ads, that I can remember. So basically our ad spots are the pool, and whoever wants it buys it, and there ain't nothing you can do about it.
It is nice to get the real answer as to why those ads are taking up all that space after only 30 posts.
Noper, as of right now, I don't have access to our Ads tools. Trying to get Curse to switch everything over to Google Apps for me so I can consolidate it all and run things from one account, ^_^. (i.e. Analytics, AdSense, etc)
I basically said the same thing, granted a lot less detailed, at the end of post#6. If you look on Curse's Website, there are big TL ads... I'm sure they're all over the Curse Network sites as well.
I understand why this happened but it doesn't make it any nicer. You said someone has to pay for all the nice graphics and what not. Well, I don't know how the rest of the community feels but I would rather have no graphics with a nice black background than a giant torchlight background. It's the fact that it is then ENTIRE background. I guess only a few of us see why this is frustrating. that space should not have been for sale.
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Well, we could go without ads but we really wouldn't last long, basically reverting to a geocities type website.
Unless you guys want to pay to be members of the site. And if thats the case you can just put it in my bank account, I'll be sure to get it to the right people.
Well, we could go without ads but we really wouldn't last long, basically reverting to a geocities type website.
Unless you guys want to pay to be members of the site. And if thats the case you can just put it in my bank account, I'll be sure to get it to the right people.
Once again, a few adds are not a problem, its the GIANT background one. It's overkill....
Oh, and I don't know what some of you are smoking but Torchlight looks like D3 the way a WOW custom game in wc3 looks like WOW. And thats being nice because with that, at least the engine is basically the same. You might be anticipating Torchlight but IM not! What am I anticipating?? The new Diablo2 patch! Because I am a DiabloFan, not a Torchlight fan.
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So your problem is that they bought all the add space on the front page?
Sorry, I'm not seeing the issue, if a certain entity wants to buy all the space, and they pay for it, what's wrong with it? If I were to buy all the add space and put a huge triforce, would you have an issue about this not being a Nintendo website, even though the add space was paid for?
I don't mind. I'd rather see Torchlight than dating site ads. We are Diablo fans? Well, Torchlight is made by Diablo people, and it's essentially Diablo, maybe with a different name and graphics style.
So your problem is that they bought all the add space on the front page?
Sorry, I'm not seeing the issue, if a certain entity wants to buy all the space, and they pay for it, what's wrong with it? If I were to buy all the add space and put a huge triforce, would you have an issue about this not being a Nintendo website, even though the add space was paid for?
Ok lets take this a step further shall we? Lets say they buy MORE add space and took our banner. The background is not just add space. It's a major portion of the page!
As far as I'm concerned this is no longer Diablofans.com it's now .5Diablo.5torchlightfans.com
Lets say somebody comes to the page for the first time...What is the biggest in their face thing? An add for another game completely unrelated to Diablo.
And equinox, as I posted in a previous thread, just because it was made by some people that made Diablo doesn't mean that it is anything like Diablo. Artists from Starcraft work on Diablo, it doesn't mean those 2 games are the same now does it..
That is the really stupid logic. Was Hellgate london Diablo3? No, nor will this game be. Granted it looks like a Diablo style game, but it is a farcry from actually being Diablo by any means. It's not just another version of Diablo. Diablo is made by Blizzard. That is not Blizzard. It may have former Blizz staff but that means absolutely nothing. It is just a former title that implies they have worked on Diablo.
Lets say the add was for a World of Warcraft Custom game from WC3 that wants a lot of publicity to get off the ground on a WOW site. I don't care what similarities there are, I'm not going to stop playing WOW for a silly custom game that is basically on the same engine. Nor would it quinch my thirst for WOW news. Likewise, this game looks similar, but it is not Diablo3, it's not evern from the same company so I don't care about it at ALL when I come to a site dedicated to Diablo, not Torchlight.
And to be completely honest, Torchlight is a FATE clone which is a Diablo clone as somebody pointed out in another thread. Torchlight is nowhere near a real Diablo clone. Even if it was I still wouldn't want to see more of it than actual Diablo stuff on the front page.
Justify it all you want, but everybody here knows the truth of the matter.
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On a side note. I will never play a game from those Blizz north guys again. Every single one of them has failed. Hellgate failed, Fate was a total failure. It was Diablo-fun(minus fun). Did mythos ever even get off the ground?
I feel bad for the Diii.net guys. That sucks. If that ever happens here you will not see me come here anymore. I don't have time for adds to be forced on me. I'll get my news from Blizzard.com if thats the case.
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Once again, a few adds are not a problem, its the GIANT background one. It's overkill....
Oh, and I don't know what some of you are smoking but Torchlight looks like D3 the way a WOW custom game in wc3 looks like WOW. And thats being nice because with that, at least the engine is basically the same. You might be anticipating Torchlight but IM not! What am I anticipating?? The new Diablo2 patch! Because I am a DiabloFan, not a Torchlight fan.
There won't be any more ad space than what is already given. The background has been there longer than the ads have been as far as i'm aware.
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On a side note. I will never play a game from those Blizz north guys again. Every single one of them has failed. Hellgate failed, Fate was a total failure. It was Diablo-fun. Did mythos ever even get off the ground?
I feel bad for the Diii.net guys. That sucks. If that ever happens here you will not see me come here anymore. I don't have time for adds to be forced on me. I'll get my news from Blizzard.com if thats the case.
If you aren't going to play Diablo3, then how can you rightfully call yourself a Diablo Fan? You do realize that D3 started production in 2004 if I recall correctly, by Blizzard North?
There won't be any more ad space than what is already given. The background has been there longer than the ads have been as far as i'm aware.
If you aren't going to play Diablo3, then how can you rightfully call yourself a Diablo Fan? You do realize that D3 started production in 2004 if I recall correctly, by Blizzard North?
On the first comment: It was hypothetical to illustrate that the background should not be add space as it is a large portion of the homepage...
2nd note: If your trying to be clever I don't think it worked very well, leave the jokes to Bashiok. K thx bud
Diablo3 is not a Blizzard North production. I am playing Diablo2 right now but I will never play a game made in the future (i.e. torchlight) from a former Blizzard North. And we all know what happened to the original Diablo3. It was scrapped. Even if D3 was started by Blizz north it was in their prime because since they left, all of their games have failed.
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On the first comment: It was hypothetical to illustrate that the background should not be add space as it is a large portion of the homepage...
2nd note: If your trying to be clever I don't think it worked very well, leave the jokes to Bashiok. Diablo3 is not a Blizzard North production. I am playing Diablo2 right now but I will never play a game made in the future (i.e. torchlight) from a former Blizzard North. And we all know what happened to the original Diablo3. It was scrapped. Even if D3 was started by Blizz north it was in their prime because since they left, all of their games have failed.
The fact of the matter is the B:North started production on Diablo 3. That is not a joke, it is what it is. I don't doubt that a lot of concepts were taken and placed into Blizzard's D3, as you can see, both games are extremely similar.
The fact of the matter is the B:North started production on Diablo 3. That is not a joke, it is what it is. I don't doubt that a lot of concepts were taken and placed into Blizzard's D3, as you can see, both games are extremely similar.
As true as that may be it is also true that they produced great games like Diablo and Diablo2. But Blizz north does not exist so whats your point?
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The only reason this is true, is because Runic Games did a site buyout on Curse. They purchased all of the advertising spots. There's nothing I can do about this really. RG purchased the for sale ad spots, that is how business works. Curse sold them the ad spot, RG bought the ad spot, the ad shows up in the spot they purchased.
If I wanted to, I could have purchased the spot and put a giant picture of the Chat Gem there. And if it really bothers you that much, purchase the ad spot yourself... so I can put a picture of the Chat Gem there, ;).
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It is nice to get the real answer as to why those ads are taking up all that space after only 30 posts.
Noper, as of right now, I don't have access to our Ads tools. Trying to get Curse to switch everything over to Google Apps for me so I can consolidate it all and run things from one account, ^_^. (i.e. Analytics, AdSense, etc)
I basically said the same thing, granted a lot less detailed, at the end of post#6. If you look on Curse's Website, there are big TL ads... I'm sure they're all over the Curse Network sites as well.
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Then again that might just be bias. o.O
Besides, without the ads we would basically revert to a geocities-type site. >.>
One more thing, Diii.net is not part of Curse, so it's not only Curse that is doing the Torchlight thing. >.<
I wasn't saying it was only Curse, I was only speaking for Curse. IncGamers has a huge TL ad as well it seems like.
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Unless you guys want to pay to be members of the site. And if thats the case you can just put it in my bank account, I'll be sure to get it to the right people.
Once again, a few adds are not a problem, its the GIANT background one. It's overkill....
Oh, and I don't know what some of you are smoking but Torchlight looks like D3 the way a WOW custom game in wc3 looks like WOW. And thats being nice because with that, at least the engine is basically the same. You might be anticipating Torchlight but IM not! What am I anticipating?? The new Diablo2 patch! Because I am a DiabloFan, not a Torchlight fan.
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"We're like the downtown of the Diablo related internet lol"
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Sorry, I'm not seeing the issue, if a certain entity wants to buy all the space, and they pay for it, what's wrong with it? If I were to buy all the add space and put a huge triforce, would you have an issue about this not being a Nintendo website, even though the add space was paid for?
Ok lets take this a step further shall we? Lets say they buy MORE add space and took our banner. The background is not just add space. It's a major portion of the page!
As far as I'm concerned this is no longer Diablofans.com it's now .5Diablo.5torchlightfans.com
Lets say somebody comes to the page for the first time...What is the biggest in their face thing? An add for another game completely unrelated to Diablo.
And equinox, as I posted in a previous thread, just because it was made by some people that made Diablo doesn't mean that it is anything like Diablo. Artists from Starcraft work on Diablo, it doesn't mean those 2 games are the same now does it..
That is the really stupid logic. Was Hellgate london Diablo3? No, nor will this game be. Granted it looks like a Diablo style game, but it is a farcry from actually being Diablo by any means. It's not just another version of Diablo. Diablo is made by Blizzard. That is not Blizzard. It may have former Blizz staff but that means absolutely nothing. It is just a former title that implies they have worked on Diablo.
Lets say the add was for a World of Warcraft Custom game from WC3 that wants a lot of publicity to get off the ground on a WOW site. I don't care what similarities there are, I'm not going to stop playing WOW for a silly custom game that is basically on the same engine. Nor would it quinch my thirst for WOW news. Likewise, this game looks similar, but it is not Diablo3, it's not evern from the same company so I don't care about it at ALL when I come to a site dedicated to Diablo, not Torchlight.
And to be completely honest, Torchlight is a FATE clone which is a Diablo clone as somebody pointed out in another thread. Torchlight is nowhere near a real Diablo clone. Even if it was I still wouldn't want to see more of it than actual Diablo stuff on the front page.
Justify it all you want, but everybody here knows the truth of the matter.
-Equinox
"We're like the downtown of the Diablo related internet lol"
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I feel bad for the Diii.net guys. That sucks. If that ever happens here you will not see me come here anymore. I don't have time for adds to be forced on me. I'll get my news from Blizzard.com if thats the case.
-Equinox
"We're like the downtown of the Diablo related internet lol"
-Winged
There won't be any more ad space than what is already given. The background has been there longer than the ads have been as far as i'm aware.
If you aren't going to play Diablo3, then how can you rightfully call yourself a Diablo Fan? You do realize that D3 started production in 2004 if I recall correctly, by Blizzard North?
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On the first comment: It was hypothetical to illustrate that the background should not be add space as it is a large portion of the homepage...
2nd note: If your trying to be clever I don't think it worked very well, leave the jokes to Bashiok. K thx bud
Diablo3 is not a Blizzard North production. I am playing Diablo2 right now but I will never play a game made in the future (i.e. torchlight) from a former Blizzard North. And we all know what happened to the original Diablo3. It was scrapped. Even if D3 was started by Blizz north it was in their prime because since they left, all of their games have failed.
-Equinox
"We're like the downtown of the Diablo related internet lol"
-Winged
The fact of the matter is the B:North started production on Diablo 3. That is not a joke, it is what it is. I don't doubt that a lot of concepts were taken and placed into Blizzard's D3, as you can see, both games are extremely similar.
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As true as that may be it is also true that they produced great games like Diablo and Diablo2. But Blizz north does not exist so whats your point?
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