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Then they shouldn't have inserted all the infinitely regenerating trolls in the game

I have serious doubts they just sit around a table and say, "Hey, let's do a half-assed job, guys!" "Okay!"

"Hey, let's not put in crossbows!" "Hellz yeah!"

"Let's screw over loyal fans!" "Preach it!"

"Let's make a horrible game!" "Amen! AMEN!"

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I have serious doubts they just sit around a table and say, "Hey, let's do a half-assed job, guys!" "Okay!"

Oh I think the situation is much less honest.

"We have concluded that the addition of crossbows and spears will not bring us any additional profit."
"Oblivion sold well, therefore we have no need to improve on the product in any way."

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I have serious doubts they just sit around a table and say, "Hey, let's do a half-assed job, guys!" "Okay!"

Oh I think the situation is much less honest.

"We have concluded that the addition of crossbows and spears will not bring us any additional profit."
"Oblivion sold well, therefore we have no need to improve on the product in any way."

You're exaggerating there. I'd 100% agree with you if those making the games were the publishers. Developers always aim higher. They want to get better and better at everything. Be it graphics, physics, animations or game mechanics, you name it. Were it as you're saying all we'd see would be remakes. Or "sequels" with better graphics and slightly different stories.

The dragon shouts are an innovation. The absorption of the dragon essences not so much (Gothic 2 did it a good while ago) but still nice. Either way, as a "not so hardcore" TES fan I'm happy with what I've seen so far. But honestly, how many hardcore fans of a franchise have you not seen complaining about one thing or another? Remember the days when Diablo III was announced? How many were complaining about virtually everything?

I read an article in a local magazine, they said it's gonna be random around the game world. You can also decide if you engage in combat or flee. It gives a certain dynamic to the encounters too. I like it.

Yeah, Oblivion's UI was horrrrrrrid.

So I think they should've done those videos with the PC engine and, possibly, had done other videos showcasing the graphics of other games because I found the draw distance to be horrendous on the console. That's something I've always noticed and, before I remembered that they were using the 360 graphics, I thought that the graphics were underwhelming.

I know the PC graphics will be better because that's how they've crafted their games. And, then again, there will likely be graphics mods to buff up areas where it could use improvement. I don't have a problem with the textures (I think they look good), but I also can notice that it is very sharp, almost to the point where it looks jagged. But, then again, it was on the 360, so they probably didn't have AA on. Everything else looks great though.

I run Oblivion on max settings, so I'm sure I'll be able to surpass 360 quality with Skyrim.

I swear, switching from Oblivion on console to Oblivion on PC was one of the best decisions I've ever made (concerning gaming).

Yeah, the dry spells of information are the worst (considering this is one of the games I'm absolutely looking forward to this year). Hopefully they'll throw us a bone every once in a while.

I'm kind of disappointed by the lack of hand-to-hand this time around. However, since I can dual wield daggers and shit, I'm quite satisfied. Also, being able to hold a sword and a staff in either hand gives me an excellent opportunity to make a Gandalf character.

Glamdring in one hand, staff with "force push" abilities in the other. And a long grey beard.

Yes, yes, it has genius written all over it. And I should also note that Whiterun reminds me of Rohan a little bit. Just throwing that out there.

The last video you linked is awesome, Dae! Will definitely give this game a try!

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Number 3 was a whole different game. It did have its moments, but it did not really stay true to the original two games in anything else than the setting.

Actually I think it did stay true to a lot of things. More than people give it credit for. You know how in Fallout 1 and 2 you never see yourself during face to face conversations? It's just the other persons face and depending on what you say out of a list of dialogue options they will react negatively or positively to you? Well I reckon they did the same things in Fallout 3.

Your Pipboy? Still there. Okay, you wear it on your arm now but why the hell not?

VATS? Yeah it's still there. Not quite the same execution as F1 and F2 but how the hell would you implement it in an FPS style game as opposed to an overhead view with a turn based combat dynamic?

Most if not all of the plot and settings references were there. Everything from Vault lore to products like Nuka Cola. Well, I know you acknowledged they stayed true to that though.

Most of all what F3 couldn't stay true to in completely new game was just that feeling you get from F1 and F2. The original games had a mystique about them that the third one could never replicate. I'll also acknowledge that yes, the standard for storyline was really dumbed down by the third game. Especially in regard to the supermutants. This was one of my only big disappointments (that and the F3's ending) of the game.

In the original games, the supermutants weren't JUST crazy ass retarded killers. Lots of them were, but there were also rather intelligent ones who spoke very eloquently and in some ways were more human than humans were. We especially saw this in Fallout 2 when they went on to show Marcus and how he defended what the Master was trying to do, yet despite everything that's still happened, he's just tried to let go of all those petty human emotions that were once his.

They seemed to make some attempt to add depth to the supermutants with Fawkes. But he was just as dumb as the other supermutants. He just simply didn't want to kill you. I suppose to be fair to this though, supermutants weren't really a big part of the F3's story. It was more about the Enclave. This was kind of the case in F2 as well. But the supermutants in that game took more of a backseat to the plot because they were still regrouping and trying to survive after the death of the Master. And many just chose to go separate ways and live out their lives.

There is some more information about supermutants in F3 though. But you only really get it through taking the time to read information found in terminals and things like that that are only the side.

But yeah I think Fallout 3 paid close attention to most things about the previous games except they failed to understand a few critical things that made the game so special that you can only really get from actually playing through the original games. I don't know how likely it is that F3's team actually played it. I wasn't there. Sure some did though. But besides that, Fallout fans were lucky the game was resurrected at all especially since the original F3 which was being designed by Black Isle fell through. And F3 does deserve a bit more credit than it deserves in regards to staying true to the original games. Maybe unforgivably short in some areas, but admirably exceeding in others.

Man I can never talk about Elder Scrolls without eventually bringing up Fallout anymore.

It's relevant to talk about Fallout 3 here anyway since many features of F3 will be implemented in Skyrim