That D.A.R.E things seems like a thing I wish I've never heard about. Damn you common sense and logic! Why do you have to run my life!
Having a hard time understanding what you're trying to say... :mellow:
The overall message is don't abuse drugs. However, they don't show equal potential for alcohol abuse as they show for marijuana abuse. You can abuse anything, and it's equally possible to abuse any drug, but they show a silver lining with alcohol, but not one for marijuana. That's where my point comes in.
They're not being fair with marijuana. They're distributing a one-sided argument and making marijuana the bad guy.
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You have to understand, Tobacco usage would go down if Marijuana usage was permitted, so these Tobacco companies will never permit it to be legalized. Not while they have any power at least.
Well, it lies in the public what they buy. That's one of the few beauties of Capitalism; if you don't want it, don't buy it.
Yet, they still have lobbyists and the such, so they still have some power over politicians. Really, it's up to them whether they buy the leverage or not. Hopefully, reason will get the better of them. :/
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I think Marijuana and tobacco should be illegal, at least keep Marijuana illegal. They both are for week minded people that need other things to relax, and I know some people might need it because of their life but most the people that do these have no contribution to their community. I could talk all day about tobacco but that is another subject. Marijuana should stay illegal because it has no positives, it promotes violence, it's bad for the body, and it makes people even more stupid. I have never meet a person who smokes Marijuana on a semi regular basis this is smart in anyway, and I've seen awesome people which I liked to hang out with turn into people you don't even want to know. It also starts people on bigger drugs.
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I see a lot of people said if it was legal the government would watch it. Do you really thing the government can watch that? They have hard times doing easier things. Heck there is even cops where I'm from that steal Marijuana from kids, give them the charges then smoke it.
And if it ever is legalize, I would seriously consider moving to another country.
So, your logic is that we can regulate tobacco, even tax it, but marijuana is too hard to regulate or tax?
As for Marijuana being bad, point out one thing that is bad about it. It's non-toxic. It is actually a pain killer. It calms people down, akin to a glass of wine. What exactly is bad about it?
As for it being a gateway drug, is beer a gateway alcohol? Are cigarettes a gateway tobacco? Are these things going to lead on to Jack Daniels and Columbian Cigars? No, and no. And Marijuana is not a gateway drug, no matter what those D.A.R.E. idiots try to tell you.
Making any substance illegal is absolute bullshit. It's an insult to one's freedom and life. If someone wants to fuck up his/her life, why keep him from it? People fuck their lives up with alcohol, thousands of accidents and deaths happen every year due to people driving around/walking around drunk out of their mind. Thousands of abuse cases get reported, all because someone got too drunk to tell right from wrong. Why is alcohol legal then? Cigarettes are very harmful to the body, why are they legal ? If someone wants to get high off whatever substance, in his own home, you shouldn't tell him not to, and alcohol and tobacco being legal, it's pure hypocrisy. I don't like drugs, therefore I don't do drugs. They just don't interest me. If they interest someone, they should be free to use them. Control and tax. America's war on drugs is an absolute failure. 1% gets stopped, and MILLIONS of dollars are spent in that war..for what? That 1%? Why?
Why wouldn't they? This whole thing is masked by "family values". Y'know...
Billy: "Dad, can I have a nickel to go to the movies?"
Dad: "Have you washed the dishes?"
Billy: "Yeah, dad. I washed the dishes, put them away, prayed twice in the bathroom, gave my sister a hug, and picked up all my clothes."
Dad: "Then yeah, Billy. Now, stay away from the pot smokers along the way. They'll castrate you with their herb grinders and roll your genitals into their joints."
Billy: "Sure thing, dad. I love you."
Dad: "You're okay too, son."
... god damnit, I hate this kinda shit. The way to keep kids off drugs is to talk to them about it. No, don't let the propaganda machine D.A.R.E do the talking, sit the fuck down with your kid and tell them what's right and what's wrong. Instill a firm belief in moderation and tell them the consequences of a drug dependence.
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I think Marijuana and tobacco should be illegal, at least keep Marijuana illegal. They both are for week minded people that need other things to relax, and I know some people might need it because of their life but most the people that do these have no contribution to their community. I could talk all day about tobacco but that is another subject. Marijuana should stay illegal because it has no positives, it promotes violence, it's bad for the body, and it makes people even more stupid. I have never meet a person who smokes Marijuana on a semi regular basis this is smart in anyway, and I've seen awesome people which I liked to hang out with turn into people you don't even want to know. It also starts people on bigger drugs.
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I see a lot of people said if it was legal the government would watch it. Do you really thing the government can watch that? They have hard times doing easier things. Heck there is even cops where I'm from that steal Marijuana from kids, give them the charges then smoke it.
And if it ever is legalize, I would seriously consider moving to another country.
This just blew me away. I've seen a lot of stupid things said here but this has to take the cake.
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I think Marijuana and tobacco should be illegal, at least keep Marijuana illegal. They both are for week minded people that need other things to relax, and I know some people might need it because of their life but most the people that do these have no contribution to their community. I could talk all day about tobacco but that is another subject. Marijuana should stay illegal because it has no positives, it promotes violence, it's bad for the body, and it makes people even more stupid. I have never meet a person who smokes Marijuana on a semi regular basis this is smart in anyway, and I've seen awesome people which I liked to hang out with turn into people you don't even want to know. It also starts people on bigger drugs.
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I see a lot of people said if it was legal the government would watch it. Do you really thing the government can watch that? They have hard times doing easier things. Heck there is even cops where I'm from that steal Marijuana from kids, give them the charges then smoke it.
And if it ever is legalize, I would seriously consider moving to another country.
LOL, I just saw this, and I can't help but destroy everything you said, so here it goes.
My cousin is a doctor, his friends are doctors, one is head of the Pathology department, and the other of the ER. He's a cancer researcher who has published plenty of articles when he was still a student, not a full fledged MD. They smoke tons of weed, they smoke tons of tobacco.
I'm a smoker. I smoke a pack+ a day, and I occasionally smoke weed with said cousin for the fuck of it (weed doesn't interest me. It doesn't effect me in any "cool" way, but the taste is alright, I guess). I got the highest SAT score in my entire highschool, I'm in the best university in the country, and one of the best in the entire region. I've never failed a single class, I've never gotten academic probation, I've never been arrested, I've never done anything. I guess people who drink and drive and beat their wives senseless aren't smoker..they just drink, LOL.
Marijuana does have some positives. There are studies that show that it decreases the chance of psychosis, triggers the death gene in cancer cells which limit their growth, and is overall less harmful than tobacco. If someone wants to fuck up his body, who are you to tell him that he can't?
It promotes violence, is bad for the body, and it makes people even more stupid. Yep, alcohol does all of that, too. It's legal.
"I have never meet a person who smokes Marijuana on a semi regular basis this is smart in anyway". Based on your English, I think, and going by what YOU are saying, you smoke weed. LOL.
Marijuana isn't a gateway drug. Anyone who tells you that is a fucking dumbass.
Then move to another country. If they can control tobacco and alcohol, they can control marijuana. Look at Amsterdam. Everything is legal, and it's way more peaceful and civil than America, where practically everything is illegal. We have a saying here.. "what's not allowed is desired". Drugs aren't allowed, some people want them JUST BECAUSE they're illegal, and that makes them feel like they're outlaws, or whatever. Legalize it, and I'm absolutely certain drug use would decrease, violence would decrease..everything would decrease.
I think Marijuana and tobacco should be illegal, at least keep Marijuana illegal. They both are for week minded people that need other things to relax, and I know some people might need it because of their life but most the people that do these have no contribution to their community. I could talk all day about tobacco but that is another subject. Marijuana should stay illegal because it has no positives, it promotes violence, it's bad for the body, and it makes people even more stupid. I have never meet a person who smokes Marijuana on a semi regular basis this is smart in anyway, and I've seen awesome people which I liked to hang out with turn into people you don't even want to know. It also starts people on bigger drugs.
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I see a lot of people said if it was legal the government would watch it. Do you really thing the government can watch that? They have hard times doing easier things. Heck there is even cops where I'm from that steal Marijuana from kids, give them the charges then smoke it.
And if it ever is legalize, I would seriously consider moving to another country.
Wow... dude, no offense but you are an extremely ignorant person
And on the subject of not being smart, I know a guy who smokes pot EVERY WEEKEND and he gets straight A's
Billy: "Dad, can I have a nickel to go to the movies?"
Dad: "Have you washed the dishes?"
Billy: "Yeah, dad. I washed the dishes, put them away, prayed twice in the bathroom, gave my sister a hug, and picked up all my clothes."
Dad: "Then yeah, Billy. Now, stay away from the pot smokers along the way. They'll castrate you with their herb grinders and roll your genitals into their joints."
Billy: "Sure thing, dad. I love you."
Dad: "You're okay too, son."
If smoking pot made you stupid, I guess I wouldn't be in 2 AP classes, Pre-calculus, and chemistry.
Just sayin'.
Those things don't mean your smart. : P
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And I never said that alcohol is good for you or tobacco is good for you. Hmm one thing that makes weed bad for you....oh yeah, you inhale smoke. No offense to your doctor friends but I would hate to have them as my doctors, sure they may now what to do when shit hits the fan but they obviously don't want to keep their body as healthy as it could be. I also don't have any problem with people destroying their body in anyway they want to, it's the only thing in this world that is actually yours, but I don't like when they do stupid things because of it, being alcohol, drugs, or anything else.
I don't depict what being smart is by only grades, I also do it by common sense. I know people with perfect grades, but are dumber than rocks.
And to Party_Foul I am one of the most open minded people you will ever meet, except somebody who is high(sorry I had to through that in).
LinkX, what would stop the people that illegally move weed into America and sell it from illegally selling it if it was legal so they don't have a tax on it?
As healthy as it could be? I could list plenty of things you're probably subjected to that do not really fit in there.
I'm sure you do not eat the 100% best food setup, you probably sit around too much on the computer, you probably live in a mildly polluted area, are subject to mild stress (you anger easily), and don't get enough sleep.
The drawbacks of pot are overdone. Besides, it being legal doesn't force you to use it. I wouldn't use it, I still think it should be legal.
People do stupid things because they are stupid. People who do things that make them stupid when they know those things make them stupid ARE stupid people and pot, alcohol, or whatever has nothing to do with it.
As healthy as it could be? I could list plenty of things you're probably subjected to that do not really fit in there.
I'm sure you do not eat the 100% best food setup, you probably sit around too much on the computer, you probably live in a mildly polluted area, are subject to mild stress (you anger easily), and don't get enough sleep.
No I don't eat the best food setup, but I don't have to at the moment, because I have an extremely fast metabolism, if I don't eat that much, then I lose weight. But I do go to the gym and work out. I actually don't have much time for the computer with school and work and hanging out with friends. I live in a town of 300 people so it isn't that polluted. I have never had stress(as far as I can remember) and I have only been angry 3 times in my life(two because of a girl). And I get around 8-10 hours of sleep a night.
If smoking pot made you stupid, I guess I wouldn't be in 2 AP classes, Pre-calculus, and chemistry. Just sayin'.
Those things don't mean your smart. : P
You're right. It just means I have commitment and a willingness to learn.
Intelligence isn't measured in GPA, yes, but it doesn't mean that it doesn't mean anything. I don't have a good GPA (2.9), but that doesn't mean I don't know anything.
Now, this isn't about intelligence, this is about what marijuana does to your comprehension and intellect. Now, saying I smoke once a month (not a chronic smoker, mind you) and yet I still am able to pick up complicated math formulas like I pick up my clothes, what does that say?
I know many friends who smoke pot that are very smart. No, I'm not just saying this, it's factual. I've known them since elementary school and we have intellectual discussions almost every time we hang out.
The thing about pot is that it's just something to do, like video games and learning guitar. Now, if I just sat at home and learned guitar, would people say I had a problem? Most people would say "no" because they think I'm doing something productive. It isn't the nature of the act, it's what's gained through doing it. I could practice guitar all day long and not take a peek outside, but if all I do is sit at home and do that, then I'm not learning much else, am I?
Same thing with pot. You can sit at home and smoke pot all day, you're probably not going to get nothing done. The thing to take into account, though, is that not everybody who smokes pot does it 24/7. Shit, I'll smoke if it was offered (unless I can't smoke it then because I'm afraid of my clothes smelling), but I won't smoke every hour of every day. I have school, dude.
The assumption is that people who smoke pot have nothing better to do. Prove it, I dare you. :whistling:
No offense to your doctor friends but I would hate to have them as my doctors, sure they may now what to do when shit hits the fan but they obviously don't want to keep their body as healthy as it could be.
Warlord, I'm really happy for you and Imma let you finish, but prescribed drugs are one of the most addictive substances of all time. You mean to tell me that doctors lose their credibility once they prescribe marijuana to CHEMO patients and those suffering from chronic pain? Why does this sound familiar? Oh yeah, because doctors also dole out prescriptions for painkillers like Celebrex, whose side effects include, but are not limited to:
Heart attack
Stroke
Stomach bleeding
Does marijuana cause those things? Didn't think so...
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Having a hard time understanding what you're trying to say... :mellow:
The overall message is don't abuse drugs. However, they don't show equal potential for alcohol abuse as they show for marijuana abuse. You can abuse anything, and it's equally possible to abuse any drug, but they show a silver lining with alcohol, but not one for marijuana. That's where my point comes in.
They're not being fair with marijuana. They're distributing a one-sided argument and making marijuana the bad guy.
I hate the way you cling to ignorance and pass it off as innocence
Yet, they still have lobbyists and the such, so they still have some power over politicians. Really, it's up to them whether they buy the leverage or not. Hopefully, reason will get the better of them. :/
I hate the way you cling to ignorance and pass it off as innocence
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I see a lot of people said if it was legal the government would watch it. Do you really thing the government can watch that? They have hard times doing easier things. Heck there is even cops where I'm from that steal Marijuana from kids, give them the charges then smoke it.
And if it ever is legalize, I would seriously consider moving to another country.
As for Marijuana being bad, point out one thing that is bad about it. It's non-toxic. It is actually a pain killer. It calms people down, akin to a glass of wine. What exactly is bad about it?
As for it being a gateway drug, is beer a gateway alcohol? Are cigarettes a gateway tobacco? Are these things going to lead on to Jack Daniels and Columbian Cigars? No, and no. And Marijuana is not a gateway drug, no matter what those D.A.R.E. idiots try to tell you.
Rise and rise again, until lambs become lions
Why wouldn't they? This whole thing is masked by "family values". Y'know...
Billy: "Dad, can I have a nickel to go to the movies?"
Dad: "Have you washed the dishes?"
Billy: "Yeah, dad. I washed the dishes, put them away, prayed twice in the bathroom, gave my sister a hug, and picked up all my clothes."
Dad: "Then yeah, Billy. Now, stay away from the pot smokers along the way. They'll castrate you with their herb grinders and roll your genitals into their joints."
Billy: "Sure thing, dad. I love you."
Dad: "You're okay too, son."
... god damnit, I hate this kinda shit. The way to keep kids off drugs is to talk to them about it. No, don't let the propaganda machine D.A.R.E do the talking, sit the fuck down with your kid and tell them what's right and what's wrong. Instill a firm belief in moderation and tell them the consequences of a drug dependence.
I hate the way you cling to ignorance and pass it off as innocence
Rise and rise again, until lambs become lions
This just blew me away. I've seen a lot of stupid things said here but this has to take the cake.
-Equinox
"We're like the downtown of the Diablo related internet lol"
-Winged
LOL, I just saw this, and I can't help but destroy everything you said, so here it goes.
My cousin is a doctor, his friends are doctors, one is head of the Pathology department, and the other of the ER. He's a cancer researcher who has published plenty of articles when he was still a student, not a full fledged MD. They smoke tons of weed, they smoke tons of tobacco.
I'm a smoker. I smoke a pack+ a day, and I occasionally smoke weed with said cousin for the fuck of it (weed doesn't interest me. It doesn't effect me in any "cool" way, but the taste is alright, I guess). I got the highest SAT score in my entire highschool, I'm in the best university in the country, and one of the best in the entire region. I've never failed a single class, I've never gotten academic probation, I've never been arrested, I've never done anything. I guess people who drink and drive and beat their wives senseless aren't smoker..they just drink, LOL.
Marijuana does have some positives. There are studies that show that it decreases the chance of psychosis, triggers the death gene in cancer cells which limit their growth, and is overall less harmful than tobacco. If someone wants to fuck up his body, who are you to tell him that he can't?
It promotes violence, is bad for the body, and it makes people even more stupid. Yep, alcohol does all of that, too. It's legal.
"I have never meet a person who smokes Marijuana on a semi regular basis this is smart in anyway". Based on your English, I think, and going by what YOU are saying, you smoke weed. LOL.
Marijuana isn't a gateway drug. Anyone who tells you that is a fucking dumbass.
Then move to another country. If they can control tobacco and alcohol, they can control marijuana. Look at Amsterdam. Everything is legal, and it's way more peaceful and civil than America, where practically everything is illegal. We have a saying here.. "what's not allowed is desired". Drugs aren't allowed, some people want them JUST BECAUSE they're illegal, and that makes them feel like they're outlaws, or whatever. Legalize it, and I'm absolutely certain drug use would decrease, violence would decrease..everything would decrease.
Rise and rise again, until lambs become lions
Just sayin'.
I hate the way you cling to ignorance and pass it off as innocence
And on the subject of not being smart, I know a guy who smokes pot EVERY WEEKEND and he gets straight A's
Ownt.
Wow. That was the best thing I've read all night
Those things don't mean your smart. : P
-Equinox
"We're like the downtown of the Diablo related internet lol"
-Winged
And I never said that alcohol is good for you or tobacco is good for you. Hmm one thing that makes weed bad for you....oh yeah, you inhale smoke. No offense to your doctor friends but I would hate to have them as my doctors, sure they may now what to do when shit hits the fan but they obviously don't want to keep their body as healthy as it could be. I also don't have any problem with people destroying their body in anyway they want to, it's the only thing in this world that is actually yours, but I don't like when they do stupid things because of it, being alcohol, drugs, or anything else.
I don't depict what being smart is by only grades, I also do it by common sense. I know people with perfect grades, but are dumber than rocks.
And to Party_Foul I am one of the most open minded people you will ever meet, except somebody who is high(sorry I had to through that in).
LinkX, what would stop the people that illegally move weed into America and sell it from illegally selling it if it was legal so they don't have a tax on it?
I'm sure you do not eat the 100% best food setup, you probably sit around too much on the computer, you probably live in a mildly polluted area, are subject to mild stress (you anger easily), and don't get enough sleep.
The drawbacks of pot are overdone. Besides, it being legal doesn't force you to use it. I wouldn't use it, I still think it should be legal.
People do stupid things because they are stupid. People who do things that make them stupid when they know those things make them stupid ARE stupid people and pot, alcohol, or whatever has nothing to do with it.
You're right. It just means I have commitment and a willingness to learn.
Intelligence isn't measured in GPA, yes, but it doesn't mean that it doesn't mean anything. I don't have a good GPA (2.9), but that doesn't mean I don't know anything.
Now, this isn't about intelligence, this is about what marijuana does to your comprehension and intellect. Now, saying I smoke once a month (not a chronic smoker, mind you) and yet I still am able to pick up complicated math formulas like I pick up my clothes, what does that say?
I know many friends who smoke pot that are very smart. No, I'm not just saying this, it's factual. I've known them since elementary school and we have intellectual discussions almost every time we hang out.
The thing about pot is that it's just something to do, like video games and learning guitar. Now, if I just sat at home and learned guitar, would people say I had a problem? Most people would say "no" because they think I'm doing something productive. It isn't the nature of the act, it's what's gained through doing it. I could practice guitar all day long and not take a peek outside, but if all I do is sit at home and do that, then I'm not learning much else, am I?
Same thing with pot. You can sit at home and smoke pot all day, you're probably not going to get nothing done. The thing to take into account, though, is that not everybody who smokes pot does it 24/7. Shit, I'll smoke if it was offered (unless I can't smoke it then because I'm afraid of my clothes smelling), but I won't smoke every hour of every day. I have school, dude.
The assumption is that people who smoke pot have nothing better to do. Prove it, I dare you. :whistling:
Warlord, I'm really happy for you and Imma let you finish, but prescribed drugs are one of the most addictive substances of all time. You mean to tell me that doctors lose their credibility once they prescribe marijuana to CHEMO patients and those suffering from chronic pain? Why does this sound familiar? Oh yeah, because doctors also dole out prescriptions for painkillers like Celebrex, whose side effects include, but are not limited to:
Heart attack
Stroke
Stomach bleeding
Does marijuana cause those things? Didn't think so...
I hate the way you cling to ignorance and pass it off as innocence