Well, wasn't there that one side quest in the first Diablo where you meet that Hell Knight who was once an angel? I think he was anyway. But anyway, you're supposed to kill someone then come back and he asks you to kill him or something and you get that cool Hell Knight helm? Someone help me fill in the gaps here.
you talking about Lachdanan. the former captain of the guard of King Leoric.
he wants you to get him an elixir from the next level and bring it back to him so it can die. then he gives you the cool helm.
Izual is an obvious example of this anyway. I'm still inconclusive toward whether Inarius is considered that. He just seems bad for both Heaven and Hell.
not really sure whats up with Inarius. his prison does show up on the map of sanctuary, but we havent been there yet. so he is still in his prison of mirrors as far as i can tell.
taken from the diablo manual
Even the Seraphim are not immune to the corruption of the Dark Lords. One such angel, Inarius, was proud of his beauty and boasted loudly of his purity and worth. His thoughts became so clouded that he believed himself to be above both Angel and Demon, and he left the High Heavens to form his own dominion. He constructed a great cathedral of mirrored glass and crystal, and followers flocked to him, drawn by his numinous charm and wealth. Once Inarius had gathered a sizable army, he decided to prove his power. Inarius first laid siege to an infernal temple devoted to the worship of Mephisto, but made the foolish mistake of overestimating his prowess. The armies of Inarius laid waste to the temple and killed the dark monks that dwelled within. The Three Evils had considered the vain warrior a mere nuisance and amusement until this time, but this was an insult that they could not bear. Mephisto himself is said to have appeared at the cathedral of Inarius. He laid waste to the church and the surrounding countryside. The Lord of Hatred took the proud archangel and His follower’s captive. He bound Inarius with tremendous chains and slowly tore the wings from the back of the angel. Great barbed hooks were then used to stretch out the once glowing skin and his features were distorted by vile powers. Many of the followers of Inarius were given as gifts to Baal and Diablo, but the rest were molded to match the bloated image of the now crippled angel. To this day, Inarius is said to be trapped in Hell within a chamber of mirrors, his eyelids torn from his face as he is forced to gaze upon his misshapen form for all eternity. His misguided followers now serve as Hell’s taskmasters, taking the anguish of their lost glory out upon the bodies of others. These grotesque demons have considerable brawn hidden beneath their layers of greasy flab. Do not underestimate their strength or their intelligence for crossing swords with them is ill advised. You will be far better served to combat them with ranged weapons or magic.
I've considered the possibility that since Baal's Soulstone was first damaged before they originally imprisoned him in it, with Tal Rasha, that perhaps the stone was never capable of completely containing him, and thus his essence managed to escape the bounds of it anyway.
Cause the only reason they were able to use the compromised stone, was because Tal Rasha assisted in containing him. However, this is another fine point of the story that escapes me: it seems that for one Prime Evils to exist in a physical form, they need a human host, otherwise they exist merely as the stones (remember in the first Diablo how he was confined to his and that's why he lured Prince Albrecht into the labryinth), although even without a host body they can still do harm. But when joined with someone, then they can really do some damage.
i think there is a bit of that diablo 1 ignorance concerning Baal's soulstone. it was broken, so a partial vessel needed to be found to replace the missing half. Tal Rasha was chosen, as the most power mage surely he could contain the beast within. much like how the warrior thought himself strong enough to contain the essence of diablo.
So why didn't the Horadrim originally take the Soulstone and just bury it in the tomb. One might assume it was because they couldn't take the chance of who's possession it might fall into. But if that was really their reason, then why would they chance putting Baal's soulstone in the most powerful mortal mage at the time? And obviously, the story addresses the arrogance of the Horadrim at the time assuming that they could pull it off. But why didn't Tyrael foresee that risk?
yes i dont think they would want to hide the stones in obvious places. one was hidden in an ancient city, one hidden in the vast desert amoung 7 tombs, the other hidden beneath a holy church. and there locations kept by a secret order.
I think the Horadrims big mistake is underestimating the extent of the power of the three. Diablo was able to corrupt the mind of an arch bishop then later the body and mind of the young prince and the unnamed warrior, baal corrupted the body and mind of the most powerful mage in the world, and Mephisto corrupted body and mind of the head of the Order of the Zakarum. and all with being trapped inside soulstones.
not sure if Tyrael posesses far sight, if he did, i dont think he would have told marius to tkae the stone, and destroy it knowing full well that marius wouldnt do it?
I suppose it was because Tyrael was unaware of Izual's treachery and did not know then that the Soulstones were corrupted. I think it would be interesting to read some more literature about the meeting between Izual and the Prime Evils. Because I couldn't understand really Izual's motivation for defecting the way he did.
yes how did Izual become corrupt and tell the Prime Evils the secrets of the soulstones? did he trade for something. often one make a deal with the devil, and well as Diablo, Mephisto and Baal are all embodiments of Lucifer so to speak, i dont see this concept being out of the question.
but it would be nice to know the exact reasoning. does he alude to anything in his dialogues after you defeat him? i recall him saying it was he who told the prime evils of the nature of the soulstones. but i dont recall anything of his reasoning for doing so.
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-Humankind cannot gain anything without first giving something in return. To obtain, something of equal value must be lost. That is alchemy's First Law of Equivalent Exchange. In those days, we really believed that to be the world's one, and only, truth.
Even the Seraphim are not immune to the corruption of the Dark Lords. One such angel, Inarius, was proud of his beauty and boasted loudly of his purity and worth. His thoughts became so clouded that he believed himself to be above both Angel and Demon, and he left the High Heavens to form his own dominion.
Wouldn't this "dominion" actually be Sanctuary itself? Cause according to the Birthright novel, he was at least partly responsible (him and that Lilith demon) for Sanctuary existing out of an act of rebellion did they create that world. And at the time of that novel, he was still a nice looking angel. It's seems sensible to assume that the book three of the Sin War trilogy may conclude with the confrontation between Mephisto and Inarius. Personally I'd be very interested to read about such a scene. Since in Diablo you never see cutscenes or learn much about what it was like when an angel and demon directly faced off with one another. Cause they usually face via mortals as agents and pawns.
Furthermore, being that we know little still of Inarius and that he resides in a prison in Sanctuary, and is very likely now utterly corrupted and evil, isn't there a good chance that Diablo 3 will feature him as a main boss? If not make him the central focus of the game altogether?
As far as what his dialogue eluded to, I only sensed that he did it just to spite the High Heavens and make them aware of how complacent and aloof they were. Because that is something I've felt is true about the High Heavens compared to the Burning Hells. The Burning Hells have always seem more actively involved, where the High Heavens seem so out of with the affairs of man. And it seems like Izual kind of just did it all to knock them out of complacency. Not neccassarily for their own good, but just to help get things rolling because he was weary of being an Angelic warrior, having to fight for all eternity in a neverending stalemate. So, perhaps the whole conspiracy of his was symbolic like a suicide note but was also a call to action.
Wouldn't this "dominion" actually be Sanctuary itself?
his prison is in Sanctuary its in Kurast infact. not sure if his cathedral is his prison or it it was somewhere else.
and yeh i would like to see the convosations that took place during this sequence of events
im not so sure Inarius is completely evil. driven mad with hate, sure. if i was mutilated and had my eyelids torn off, so i was forced to look at my newly deformed body id be pretty pissed, and i take it out on the first being i came across, be they human, angel or demon.
it has been said before but i think ill mention it again, d3 should include as many of the outstanding beings from the Diablo lore we have not come across. most are still alive from what i gathered. i think jehred Cain (who captured diablo) is the only exception. unless cain ISNT the last horadrim.
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-Humankind cannot gain anything without first giving something in return. To obtain, something of equal value must be lost. That is alchemy's First Law of Equivalent Exchange. In those days, we really believed that to be the world's one, and only, truth.
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you talking about Lachdanan. the former captain of the guard of King Leoric.
he wants you to get him an elixir from the next level and bring it back to him so it can die. then he gives you the cool helm.
not really sure whats up with Inarius. his prison does show up on the map of sanctuary, but we havent been there yet. so he is still in his prison of mirrors as far as i can tell.
taken from the diablo manual
Even the Seraphim are not immune to the corruption of the Dark Lords. One such angel, Inarius, was proud of his beauty and boasted loudly of his purity and worth. His thoughts became so clouded that he believed himself to be above both Angel and Demon, and he left the High Heavens to form his own dominion. He constructed a great cathedral of mirrored glass and crystal, and followers flocked to him, drawn by his numinous charm and wealth. Once Inarius had gathered a sizable army, he decided to prove his power. Inarius first laid siege to an infernal temple devoted to the worship of Mephisto, but made the foolish mistake of overestimating his prowess. The armies of Inarius laid waste to the temple and killed the dark monks that dwelled within. The Three Evils had considered the vain warrior a mere nuisance and amusement until this time, but this was an insult that they could not bear.
Mephisto himself is said to have appeared at the cathedral of Inarius. He laid waste to the church and the surrounding countryside. The Lord of Hatred took the proud archangel and His follower’s captive. He bound Inarius with tremendous chains and slowly tore the wings from the back of the angel. Great barbed hooks were then used to stretch out the once glowing skin and his features were distorted by vile powers. Many of the followers of Inarius were given as gifts to Baal and Diablo, but the rest were molded to match the bloated image of the now crippled angel. To this day, Inarius is said to be trapped in Hell within a chamber of mirrors, his eyelids torn from his face as he is forced to gaze upon his misshapen form for all eternity. His misguided followers now serve as Hell’s taskmasters, taking the anguish of their lost glory out upon the bodies of others.
These grotesque demons have considerable brawn hidden beneath their layers of greasy flab. Do not underestimate their strength or their intelligence for crossing swords with them is ill advised. You will be far better served to combat them with ranged weapons or magic.
Cause the only reason they were able to use the compromised stone, was because Tal Rasha assisted in containing him. However, this is another fine point of the story that escapes me: it seems that for one Prime Evils to exist in a physical form, they need a human host, otherwise they exist merely as the stones (remember in the first Diablo how he was confined to his and that's why he lured Prince Albrecht into the labryinth), although even without a host body they can still do harm. But when joined with someone, then they can really do some damage.
i think there is a bit of that diablo 1 ignorance concerning Baal's soulstone. it was broken, so a partial vessel needed to be found to replace the missing half. Tal Rasha was chosen, as the most power mage surely he could contain the beast within. much like how the warrior thought himself strong enough to contain the essence of diablo.
yes i dont think they would want to hide the stones in obvious places. one was hidden in an ancient city, one hidden in the vast desert amoung 7 tombs, the other hidden beneath a holy church. and there locations kept by a secret order.
I think the Horadrims big mistake is underestimating the extent of the power of the three. Diablo was able to corrupt the mind of an arch bishop then later the body and mind of the young prince and the unnamed warrior, baal corrupted the body and mind of the most powerful mage in the world, and Mephisto corrupted body and mind of the head of the Order of the Zakarum. and all with being trapped inside soulstones.
not sure if Tyrael posesses far sight, if he did, i dont think he would have told marius to tkae the stone, and destroy it knowing full well that marius wouldnt do it?
yes how did Izual become corrupt and tell the Prime Evils the secrets of the soulstones? did he trade for something. often one make a deal with the devil, and well as Diablo, Mephisto and Baal are all embodiments of Lucifer so to speak, i dont see this concept being out of the question.
but it would be nice to know the exact reasoning. does he alude to anything in his dialogues after you defeat him? i recall him saying it was he who told the prime evils of the nature of the soulstones. but i dont recall anything of his reasoning for doing so.
Wouldn't this "dominion" actually be Sanctuary itself? Cause according to the Birthright novel, he was at least partly responsible (him and that Lilith demon) for Sanctuary existing out of an act of rebellion did they create that world. And at the time of that novel, he was still a nice looking angel. It's seems sensible to assume that the book three of the Sin War trilogy may conclude with the confrontation between Mephisto and Inarius. Personally I'd be very interested to read about such a scene. Since in Diablo you never see cutscenes or learn much about what it was like when an angel and demon directly faced off with one another. Cause they usually face via mortals as agents and pawns.
Furthermore, being that we know little still of Inarius and that he resides in a prison in Sanctuary, and is very likely now utterly corrupted and evil, isn't there a good chance that Diablo 3 will feature him as a main boss? If not make him the central focus of the game altogether?
As far as what his dialogue eluded to, I only sensed that he did it just to spite the High Heavens and make them aware of how complacent and aloof they were. Because that is something I've felt is true about the High Heavens compared to the Burning Hells. The Burning Hells have always seem more actively involved, where the High Heavens seem so out of with the affairs of man. And it seems like Izual kind of just did it all to knock them out of complacency. Not neccassarily for their own good, but just to help get things rolling because he was weary of being an Angelic warrior, having to fight for all eternity in a neverending stalemate. So, perhaps the whole conspiracy of his was symbolic like a suicide note but was also a call to action.
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his prison is in Sanctuary its in Kurast infact. not sure if his cathedral is his prison or it it was somewhere else.
and yeh i would like to see the convosations that took place during this sequence of events
im not so sure Inarius is completely evil. driven mad with hate, sure. if i was mutilated and had my eyelids torn off, so i was forced to look at my newly deformed body id be pretty pissed, and i take it out on the first being i came across, be they human, angel or demon.
it has been said before but i think ill mention it again, d3 should include as many of the outstanding beings from the Diablo lore we have not come across. most are still alive from what i gathered. i think jehred Cain (who captured diablo) is the only exception. unless cain ISNT the last horadrim.