We are humans. Nothing more. Nothing less. We cant be in a position to judge who has the right to die, or how, except for our own lives.
Everything can be quite subjective about a war criminal. If he won the war it would be the other way around. Think about that too. I'm against death penalty in general. Keep him in a 2x2 cell for the rest of his life with only a bucket to shit in, i wouldnt mind. Let him live in misery. Thats punishment enough. Getting him dead will make a martyr out of him for some people at least and enrage a big part of the people in Iraq.
Torturing/killing is just too primitive for my taste. I prefer letting them think of how their lives would be if they wouldnt commit their crimes and let them live the rest of their pathetic lives behind bars in regret of what they've done. Aint that a bigger punishment than just killing them?
In my insanity of war, the only thing that kept me alive was my primitive mind. That is what I rely on in the heat of battle. I don't think of any concequences in actions for that is what gets people killed.
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I personally think that Suddam should be tortured until he dies of his injuries. The reason I say, is because think of all the innocents that he has torchered, all of our troops that have been captured and tortured. I am not willing to have Suddam a simple death. I believe that he must suffer on how every person he torchered has suffered. That is my strong belief. Killing someone would only create a small amount of pain if any. Torchering him may be unhumane, but what has he done to others. Charma is a bitch.
If there was a rapist on trial, his punishment should be raped and on how severe the rape was (victim died) he should then die. If a high school student was convicted of slashing tires, his tires should be slashed with a big fat fine to go with. And lastly, if a murderer was placed on trial, he/she should be killed the same way the victim was.
That is just my strong belief in my code of salvation.
hm......................... no matter what way i put this ima sound total ghey...
so if i killed your mom(example) then rape her body.... you wont care what happends to me? other then killing me?
or would you want die in pain?
hm............... :cool:
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In my insanity of war, the only thing that kept me alive was my primitive mind. That is what I rely on in the heat of battle. I don't think of any concequences in actions for that is what gets people killed.
the primitive side of your mind that may keep you alive in battle should step aside during the post-war time. If it doesnt, then u end up a barbarian (with the bad meaning of the word, not the Diablo-meaning) that only has the kill and pain of his opponent in mind (and when there are no opponents left you just make some up).
I dont know if you've been in a war before or just roleplay again about that ranking stuff you guys have on the site, but if ur talking about it seriously then you should really reconsider a few things.
In many way ur right FlingolfinGr most american Presidents are responsible for lots of deaths hell id say all of them are at least 100 or more some way or another but the main thing is that we the people of the United State of America elected him. Even if u didnt vote or did vote just for the other guy in the end 52% of americans elected bush. this may sound wrong or incorrect to u the main cause of death in the world is Greed and the search for power. Example A. Saddam Hussein kills his own people and steals from them to test and make and aquire weapons. The reason for this is so he can get richer and more powerful or he may have been crazy. Example B. President Bush (some will hate and say to me about what i said wo cornflake witch now i am sorry about if u read this sorry about what i said cornflake) Pres bush may not be directly to deaths but u cant tell me that a people haven't died because of wat Bush did to social Secerity. He also even though people wont addmitt for most of the deaths that took place during Katrina and he could done alot better with defending against terrorist attacks.(my op.) I dont really care if u hate me or like e now that is what i think and so be it but i am open to new info
i pretty much agree with you.
About Saddam, all i know is that he wasnt a threat to anyone in a military way. The boycott (or how its spelled), made Iraq really week over the last 14-15 years. Only thing that made Bush attack Iraq was, as you very well said above, GREED. Saddam just made a deal with France and Germany to that point to sell Iraqs oil to the europeans in euro. What does this mean? That dollars would be out of the deal and its international prices would drop. As it happened. Ofc Bush didnt like it and included Iraq to his "anti-terror" campaign. The fact that the oil companies he can benefit from most now got the oil is secondary.
i know this sounds harsh but...
personally if you kill or rape i dont give a crap about your rights, to me you are no longer human you are nothing, you shuld be locked in a small cell for life or sent off to live in antartica
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If you ever meet a hafling and a hungry dragon you dont have to outrun the dragon, you only have to outrun the hafling.
recently a crazy idiot tortured his new born girl, he smashed her head off a table several times, he then took her legs and pulled them up over her head untill they snaped this guy needs to be sent to jail, no death penalty for him.. being the prison bitch is far worse than death
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If you ever meet a hafling and a hungry dragon you dont have to outrun the dragon, you only have to outrun the hafling.
But the only downside I would see to hanging him now is that he wouldn't be allowed to stand trial for further atrocities, thus allowing other people to feel some sense of justice. Where he has been convicted of the torturing and murder of 148 Dujail villagers, he has not stood trial for the Anfal campaign where over 100,000 Kurds were killed and millions more displaced.
While I'm sure most Shias and Kurds are happy with his sentence, the Sunnis who were loyal to Saddam's regime might not appreciate him hanging. Especially since the legitimacy of Iraq's current government remains in question, and these things could bring Iraq even closer to a full-blown civil war, least escalate the sectarian violence.
If there was a rapist on trial, his punishment should be raped and on how severe the rape was (victim died) he should then die. If a high school student was convicted of slashing tires, his tires should be slashed with a big fat fine to go with. And lastly, if a murderer was placed on trial, he/she should be killed the same way the victim was.
That is just my strong belief in my code of salvation.
Are you saying a rapist's punishment should be that they too are raped? Who's gonna volunteer to carry out that sentence?
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Everything can be quite subjective about a war criminal. If he won the war it would be the other way around. Think about that too. I'm against death penalty in general. Keep him in a 2x2 cell for the rest of his life with only a bucket to shit in, i wouldnt mind. Let him live in misery. Thats punishment enough. Getting him dead will make a martyr out of him for some people at least and enrage a big part of the people in Iraq.
Torturing/killing is just too primitive for my taste. I prefer letting them think of how their lives would be if they wouldnt commit their crimes and let them live the rest of their pathetic lives behind bars in regret of what they've done. Aint that a bigger punishment than just killing them?
hm......................... no matter what way i put this ima sound total ghey...
so if i killed your mom(example) then rape her body.... you wont care what happends to me? other then killing me?
or would you want die in pain?
hm............... :cool:
It's time for us as a people to start makin' some changes.
Let's change the way we eat, let's change the way we live
and let's change the way we treat each other.
You see the old way wasn't working so it's on us to do
what we gotta do, to survive.
Tupac Shakur
100% Legit baal runners
SICK_Bambi 93 Barb (46th barb)
SICK_Paladin 95 Necromancer (12th necro)
SICK_ferret 95 Assassin (10th sin)
~~us West Ladder~~
the primitive side of your mind that may keep you alive in battle should step aside during the post-war time. If it doesnt, then u end up a barbarian (with the bad meaning of the word, not the Diablo-meaning) that only has the kill and pain of his opponent in mind (and when there are no opponents left you just make some up).
I dont know if you've been in a war before or just roleplay again about that ranking stuff you guys have on the site, but if ur talking about it seriously then you should really reconsider a few things.
About Saddam, all i know is that he wasnt a threat to anyone in a military way. The boycott (or how its spelled), made Iraq really week over the last 14-15 years. Only thing that made Bush attack Iraq was, as you very well said above, GREED. Saddam just made a deal with France and Germany to that point to sell Iraqs oil to the europeans in euro. What does this mean? That dollars would be out of the deal and its international prices would drop. As it happened. Ofc Bush didnt like it and included Iraq to his "anti-terror" campaign. The fact that the oil companies he can benefit from most now got the oil is secondary.
personally if you kill or rape i dont give a crap about your rights, to me you are no longer human you are nothing, you shuld be locked in a small cell for life or sent off to live in antartica
recently a crazy idiot tortured his new born girl, he smashed her head off a table several times, he then took her legs and pulled them up over her head untill they snaped this guy needs to be sent to jail, no death penalty for him.. being the prison bitch is far worse than death
But the only downside I would see to hanging him now is that he wouldn't be allowed to stand trial for further atrocities, thus allowing other people to feel some sense of justice. Where he has been convicted of the torturing and murder of 148 Dujail villagers, he has not stood trial for the Anfal campaign where over 100,000 Kurds were killed and millions more displaced.
While I'm sure most Shias and Kurds are happy with his sentence, the Sunnis who were loyal to Saddam's regime might not appreciate him hanging. Especially since the legitimacy of Iraq's current government remains in question, and these things could bring Iraq even closer to a full-blown civil war, least escalate the sectarian violence.
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Are you saying a rapist's punishment should be that they too are raped? Who's gonna volunteer to carry out that sentence?
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