After playing D3 and realizing just how much hey ruined this badass character, I wonder how many people regret getting a tattoo of this archangel of former awesomeness.
Ruined him? He fell from the heavens so he could fight against evil. How is that ruining him?
Tyrael is badass in Diablo 3.
Wait, are you talking about his appearance? That's about the only thing that would make sense.
He did not "fall" from the heavens, he was kicked out after taking off his wings..after having a pissing argument with imperius whom he already knew was high tempered, watch the cinematic again, he is surprised when the strange tenticals come out and drag him into the ground, he even struggles against him.
His character is just so badly developed compared to how he was in D2, In the Act 2 cinematic he shows Leah what happened to him, in the Act 3 cinematic he pulls Leah out of her dream like state while Azmodan was talking to her, and in Act 4 he reclaims his spot as part of the council only this time as a mortal and as Wisdom...What? He actually doesn't do anything, During the Diablo fight he is standing outside.
The only kickass thing he does was break the gate him which seigebreaker is behind...Oh but I forgot...right after he does that, he runs behind you like a coward
Also, I didn't want to mention that he was a sulking crybaby in Act 4 until you find him again, but he was.
Another thing that bugs me, If he is now mortal and can die, how exactly did he survive falling form heaven in a flaming meteor through the roof and 5 stories into the cathedral and then laying in blue flames until your hero taps him on the shoulder?
I don't know, they didn't really get a tattoo of the current Tyrael (as a mortal), they got the old one. The way he was in D2, so in actual fact he still remains badass on their tattoos.
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Bashiok - Blizzard Representative - 08/01/2011 -"So how many skill combinations are there now? Well taking into account 6 active skills, all the rune combinations, and 3 passives we currently expect each class to have roughly 2,285,814,795,264 different build combinations."
"Hey, I thought you'd like the witty irony of grub-on-glowie violence!"
Ruined him? He fell from the heavens so he could fight against evil. How is that ruining him?
Tyrael is badass in Diablo 3.
Wait, are you talking about his appearance? That's about the only thing that would make sense.
He did not "fall" from the heavens, he was kicked out after taking off his wings..after having a pissing argument with imperius whom he already knew was high tempered, watch the cinematic again, he is surprised when the strange tenticals come out and drag him into the ground, he even struggles against him.
His character is just so badly developed compared to how he was in D2, In the Act 2 cinematic he shows Leah what happened to him, in the Act 3 cinematic he pulls Leah out of her dream like state while Azmodan was talking to her, and in Act 4 he reclaims his spot as part of the council only this time as a mortal and as Wisdom...What? He actually doesn't do anything, During the Diablo fight he is standing outside.
The only kickass thing he does was break the gate him which seigebreaker is behind...Oh but I forgot...right after he does that, he runs behind you like a coward
Also, I didn't want to mention that he was a sulking crybaby in Act 4 until you find him again, but he was.
Another thing that bugs me, If he is now mortal and can die, how exactly did he survive falling form heaven in a flaming meteor through the roof and 5 stories into the cathedral and then laying in blue flames until your hero taps him on the shoulder?
And people continue to point out details of the horrible story that is Diablo 3.
I like the game, I do. But Diablo 2's story was much better, and makes Diablo 3's look just plain terrible.
Wait are you saying its a keyblade... cause thats the only way that statement works..... and which is scary. Kingdom Hearts X - Tyrial as a optional character....
Lol don't get me started on Tyrael's storyline. I like D3 and don't consider myself a complainer, and I even like the story overall. However Angels can now rip of their wings and become nephalem? or even human and it still doesn't make sence. Lets take it in another scenario, you have 2 aliens of different races: Alien 1 and Alien 2 mate because somehow their biology is similar enough to do so, they make a baby called Alien 3. So now Alien 1 can just rip off his leg and now he's Alien 3? Or any other bodily part for that matter, it doesnt change you from a being of pure light and sound (description of Angels by Blizzard) to a being of flesh, let alone one that has parts that came from a completely different race (humans/nephelam are part angel and part demon).
Players complain that Diablo 3's storyline is worse than Diablo 2's, and yet the lead dev from Diablo 2 stated in an interview that the storyline for Diablo 3 was alot better and more fleshed out, compared to the poor story they tacked onto Diablo 2. The same person everyone says would have made such a better Diablo 3 admits that Diablo 3 is better than what they made in Diablo 2.
Guess people just look for reason to hate on anything that doesn't hold their attention for more than 6hrs of enjoyable entertainment.
To address Tyrael's "fall" to mortality... I'll pull a term from the movie Dogma... he transubstantiated. Removal of an angel's wings turns them mortal. Demons can't do it though. I know it's foolish to bring one form of fiction in with another here, but at least it's a SOMEWHAT relevant comparison.
I thought it was funny in Act 4 when he 'lost hope' and then before you fight Diablo, he's all - hopeful, again. Such a mood swing, not manly at all.
He lost hope because Auriel (the Archangel of Hope) was captured. Upon freeing her hope was restored to the heavens. It wasn't exactly a "mood swing"
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Bashiok - Blizzard Representative - 08/01/2011 -"So how many skill combinations are there now? Well taking into account 6 active skills, all the rune combinations, and 3 passives we currently expect each class to have roughly 2,285,814,795,264 different build combinations."
"Hey, I thought you'd like the witty irony of grub-on-glowie violence!"
Players complain that Diablo 3's storyline is worse than Diablo 2's, and yet the lead dev from Diablo 2 stated in an interview that the storyline for Diablo 3 was alot better and more fleshed out, compared to the poor story they tacked onto Diablo 2. The same person everyone says would have made such a better Diablo 3 admits that Diablo 3 is better than what they made in Diablo 2.
Guess people just look for reason to hate on anything that doesn't hold their attention for more than 6hrs of enjoyable entertainment.
To address Tyrael's "fall" to mortality... I'll pull a term from the movie Dogma... he transubstantiated. Removal of an angel's wings turns them mortal. Demons can't do it though. I know it's foolish to bring one form of fiction in with another here, but at least it's a SOMEWHAT relevant comparison.
I have a problem with this argument. If Nephalem were mortal it would be valid and correct. However Nephalem are not mere mortals. If you read the book of cain they are half Angel, Half demon. All mortals are Nephalem they all just forgot they had a ton of power (according to Book of Cain). So somehow an angel taking his wings off turns them into 50% demon? Its just confusing. They brought out this amazing book but completely went against the lore that the book gave.
Also i Agree 100% Tyrael kind of is a pansy in this game. I guess my hope for D3 lore wise (I love the game) was a tad different than what we got.
Another thing that bugs me, If he is now mortal and can die, how exactly did he survive falling form heaven in a flaming meteor through the roof and 5 stories into the cathedral and then laying in blue flames until your hero taps him on the shoulder?
Players complain that Diablo 3's storyline is worse than Diablo 2's, and yet the lead dev from Diablo 2 stated in an interview that the storyline for Diablo 3 was alot better and more fleshed out, compared to the poor story they tacked onto Diablo 2. The same person everyone says would have made such a better Diablo 3 admits that Diablo 3 is better than what they made in Diablo 2.
Guess people just look for reason to hate on anything that doesn't hold their attention for more than 6hrs of enjoyable entertainment.
To address Tyrael's "fall" to mortality... I'll pull a term from the movie Dogma... he transubstantiated. Removal of an angel's wings turns them mortal. Demons can't do it though. I know it's foolish to bring one form of fiction in with another here, but at least it's a SOMEWHAT relevant comparison.
I have a problem with this argument. If Nephalem were mortal it would be valid and correct. However Nephalem are not mere mortals. If you read the book of cain they are half Angel, Half demon. All mortals are Nephalem they all just forgot they had a ton of power (according to Book of Cain). So somehow an angel taking his wings off turns them into 50% demon? Its just confusing. They brought out this amazing book but completely went against the lore that the book gave.
Also i Agree 100% Tyrael kind of is a pansy in this game. I guess my hope for D3 lore wise (I love the game) was a tad different than what we got.
I don't think they "forgot" they had a ton of power. Remember the Worldstone was created to stop the Nephalems power from increasing. With that said the men of sanctuary probably had no qualities of the "inner power" that the Nephalem once possessed. Of course then it comes down to the heroes that we play in all 3 games. Each class has its own background in how they've obtained their skills and expertise.
Though the interesting one was the Wizard in D3, in the Wizard trailer they said that she/he was far more skilled than any other of the wizards (sorry I can't get it word for word its been ages since I've seen it). With that being said D3 takes place 20 years after the destruction of the Worldstone, and in the Wizard trailer he/she is described to be quite young, in their late teens. While Blizzard also stating that the Wizard is 19 years of age. So right there we can see that the effects of the Worldstone have started to wear off already because of the skill that the Wizard possesses at such a young age.
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Bashiok - Blizzard Representative - 08/01/2011 -"So how many skill combinations are there now? Well taking into account 6 active skills, all the rune combinations, and 3 passives we currently expect each class to have roughly 2,285,814,795,264 different build combinations."
"Hey, I thought you'd like the witty irony of grub-on-glowie violence!"
I thought it was funny in Act 4 when he 'lost hope' and then before you fight Diablo, he's all - hopeful, again. Such a mood swing, not manly at all.
He lost hope because Auriel (the Archangel of Hope) was captured. Upon freeing her hope was restored to the heavens. It wasn't exactly a "mood swing"
Yeah, but he isn't part of the heavens anymore :o. The thing that pissed me off the most how they made all the souls of the evils magically appear in the black soulstone. They were just like oh Adria did that... wtf
Players complain that Diablo 3's storyline is worse than Diablo 2's, and yet the lead dev from Diablo 2 stated in an interview that the storyline for Diablo 3 was alot better and more fleshed out, compared to the poor story they tacked onto Diablo 2. The same person everyone says would have made such a better Diablo 3 admits that Diablo 3 is better than what they made in Diablo 2.
Guess people just look for reason to hate on anything that doesn't hold their attention for more than 6hrs of enjoyable entertainment.
To address Tyrael's "fall" to mortality... I'll pull a term from the movie Dogma... he transubstantiated. Removal of an angel's wings turns them mortal. Demons can't do it though. I know it's foolish to bring one form of fiction in with another here, but at least it's a SOMEWHAT relevant comparison.
I have a problem with this argument. If Nephalem were mortal it would be valid and correct. However Nephalem are not mere mortals. If you read the book of cain they are half Angel, Half demon. All mortals are Nephalem they all just forgot they had a ton of power (according to Book of Cain). So somehow an angel taking his wings off turns them into 50% demon? Its just confusing. They brought out this amazing book but completely went against the lore that the book gave.
Also i Agree 100% Tyrael kind of is a pansy in this game. I guess my hope for D3 lore wise (I love the game) was a tad different than what we got.
I don't think they "forgot" they had a ton of power. Remember the Worldstone was created to stop the Nephalems power from increasing. With that said the men of sanctuary probably had no qualities of the "inner power" that the Nephalem once possessed. Of course then it comes down to the heroes that we play in all 3 games. Each class has its own background in how they've obtained their skills and expertise.
Though the interesting one was the Wizard in D3, in the Wizard trailer they said that she/he was far more skilled than any other of the wizards (sorry I can't get it word for word its been ages since I've seen it). With that being said D3 takes place 20 years after the destruction of the Worldstone, and in the Wizard trailer he/she is described to be quite young, in their late teens. While Blizzard also stating that the Wizard is 19 years of age. So right there we can see that the effects of the Worldstone have started to wear off already because of the skill that the Wizard possesses at such a young age.
Um... the worldstone wasn't created for that purpose. They specifically say that heaven and hell had fought over it for thousands of years. They traitors of both sides took it and hid on sanctuary. It was just that had become scared of the power of the nephelam they had created and re purposed it to seal their powers
https://www.deviantart.com/aerisot
Tyrael is badass in Diablo 3.
Wait, are you talking about his appearance? That's about the only thing that would make sense.
He did not "fall" from the heavens, he was kicked out after taking off his wings..after having a pissing argument with imperius whom he already knew was high tempered, watch the cinematic again, he is surprised when the strange tenticals come out and drag him into the ground, he even struggles against him.
His character is just so badly developed compared to how he was in D2, In the Act 2 cinematic he shows Leah what happened to him, in the Act 3 cinematic he pulls Leah out of her dream like state while Azmodan was talking to her, and in Act 4 he reclaims his spot as part of the council only this time as a mortal and as Wisdom...What? He actually doesn't do anything, During the Diablo fight he is standing outside.
The only kickass thing he does was break the gate him which seigebreaker is behind...Oh but I forgot...right after he does that, he runs behind you like a coward
Also, I didn't want to mention that he was a sulking crybaby in Act 4 until you find him again, but he was.
Another thing that bugs me, If he is now mortal and can die, how exactly did he survive falling form heaven in a flaming meteor through the roof and 5 stories into the cathedral and then laying in blue flames until your hero taps him on the shoulder?
https://www.deviantart.com/aerisot
Bashiok - Blizzard Representative - 08/01/2011 -"So how many skill combinations are there now? Well taking into account 6 active skills, all the rune combinations, and 3 passives we currently expect each class to have roughly 2,285,814,795,264 different build combinations."
"Hey, I thought you'd like the witty irony of grub-on-glowie violence!"
Ha. Bagstone.
I thought it was funny in Act 4 when he 'lost hope' and then before you fight Diablo, he's all - hopeful, again. Such a mood swing, not manly at all.
http://i.imgur.com/O7Oeo.png
I received TWO beta keys. Eat it and like it.
And people continue to point out details of the horrible story that is Diablo 3.
I like the game, I do. But Diablo 2's story was much better, and makes Diablo 3's look just plain terrible.
Wait are you saying its a keyblade... cause thats the only way that statement works..... and which is scary. Kingdom Hearts X - Tyrial as a optional character....
Players complain that Diablo 3's storyline is worse than Diablo 2's, and yet the lead dev from Diablo 2 stated in an interview that the storyline for Diablo 3 was alot better and more fleshed out, compared to the poor story they tacked onto Diablo 2. The same person everyone says would have made such a better Diablo 3 admits that Diablo 3 is better than what they made in Diablo 2.
Guess people just look for reason to hate on anything that doesn't hold their attention for more than 6hrs of enjoyable entertainment.
To address Tyrael's "fall" to mortality... I'll pull a term from the movie Dogma... he transubstantiated. Removal of an angel's wings turns them mortal. Demons can't do it though. I know it's foolish to bring one form of fiction in with another here, but at least it's a SOMEWHAT relevant comparison.
Bashiok - Blizzard Representative - 08/01/2011 -"So how many skill combinations are there now? Well taking into account 6 active skills, all the rune combinations, and 3 passives we currently expect each class to have roughly 2,285,814,795,264 different build combinations."
"Hey, I thought you'd like the witty irony of grub-on-glowie violence!"
I have a problem with this argument. If Nephalem were mortal it would be valid and correct. However Nephalem are not mere mortals. If you read the book of cain they are half Angel, Half demon. All mortals are Nephalem they all just forgot they had a ton of power (according to Book of Cain). So somehow an angel taking his wings off turns them into 50% demon? Its just confusing. They brought out this amazing book but completely went against the lore that the book gave.
Also i Agree 100% Tyrael kind of is a pansy in this game. I guess my hope for D3 lore wise (I love the game) was a tad different than what we got.
Hrm...
Ha. Bagstone.
Residual angel juice?
That's about all I got for ideas...
Though the interesting one was the Wizard in D3, in the Wizard trailer they said that she/he was far more skilled than any other of the wizards (sorry I can't get it word for word its been ages since I've seen it). With that being said D3 takes place 20 years after the destruction of the Worldstone, and in the Wizard trailer he/she is described to be quite young, in their late teens. While Blizzard also stating that the Wizard is 19 years of age. So right there we can see that the effects of the Worldstone have started to wear off already because of the skill that the Wizard possesses at such a young age.
Bashiok - Blizzard Representative - 08/01/2011 -"So how many skill combinations are there now? Well taking into account 6 active skills, all the rune combinations, and 3 passives we currently expect each class to have roughly 2,285,814,795,264 different build combinations."
"Hey, I thought you'd like the witty irony of grub-on-glowie violence!"
Yeah, but he isn't part of the heavens anymore :o. The thing that pissed me off the most how they made all the souls of the evils magically appear in the black soulstone. They were just like oh Adria did that... wtf
Um... the worldstone wasn't created for that purpose. They specifically say that heaven and hell had fought over it for thousands of years. They traitors of both sides took it and hid on sanctuary. It was just that had become scared of the power of the nephelam they had created and re purposed it to seal their powers
Horns. Like Hellboy