Once WoW players kill Arthas, that entire series is dead.
They've been screwing it up for four years.
Really?
Its not like the story is diablo is much better, but at least its more interesting with its themes to play an thats really what matters to a gamer.
An if blizzard didn't have something up there sleeve after Arthas it would be completely stupid of them don't you think? Its like giving away money not to milk all those millions of people for everything they are worth.
Its not like the warcraft story in world of warcraft isn't about the same as it would otherwise be in the RTS version anyway, its pretty much the same just not in the regular genre that it has occupied for the other games in the series.
Its not like video games have brilliant story's anyway, they are just interesting universe to explore and discover through a players experiences.
If we wanted great stories we would read books, we just want interesting themes to play for our entertainment, expanding this to make our gameplay more enjoyable hasn't really been a problem lately, most games nowadays cannibalize there stories to improve the players experience, should be happy you get something instead of nothing.
Its not like the story is diablo is much better, but at least its more interesting with its themes to play an thats really what matters to a gamer.
An if blizzard didn't have something up there sleeve after Arthas it would be completely stupid of them don't you think? Its like giving away money not to milk all those millions of people for everything they are worth.
Its not like the warcraft story in world of warcraft isn't about the same as it would otherwise be in the RTS version anyway, its pretty much the same just not in the regular genre that it has occupied for the other games in the series.
Its not like video games have brilliant story's anyway, they are just interesting universe to explore and discover through a players experiences.
If we wanted great stories we would read books, we just want interesting themes to play for our entertainment, expanding this to make our gameplay more enjoyable hasn't really been a problem lately, most games nowadays cannibalize there stories to improve the players experience, should be happy you get something instead of nothing.
You can't compare the brilliance of the Diablo story to the pile of crap that is Warcraft lore. With every patch and every new raid, they are slowly killing the entire cast of WC3. Soon there will be no-one left. All their lore characters go insane, and then must be killed off as 25 man raid bosses. Soon we'll be killing Malygos, Arthas, and after that they'll probably release the Maelstrom and Emerald Dream where we'll have to kill off Azshara, and Malfurion who somehow will probably go insane for no reason. In fact, since WoW, the Warcraft storyline hasn't progressed at all, the only thing that has happened is that all the characters are dying for no good reason.
You can't compare the brilliance of the Diablo story to the pile of crap that is Warcraft lore. With every patch and every new raid, they are slowly killing the entire cast of WC3. Soon there will be no-one left. All their lore characters go insane, and then must be killed off as 25 man raid bosses. Soon we'll be killing Malygos, Arthas, and after that they'll probably release the Maelstrom and Emerald Dream where we'll have to kill off Azshara, and Malfurion who somehow will probably go insane for no reason. In fact, since WoW, the Warcraft storyline hasn't progressed at all, the only thing that has happened is that all the characters are dying for no good reason.
I doubt we will kill malfurion, he is fighting the corruption in the emerald dream, it would be stupid of them to do it but then again they've made quite a few mistakes when it comes to warcraft lately that fighting the good guys wouldn't be out of the question.
I've never understood why the horde had to fight in the same dungeons that alliance did, its not like either sides are allies, so why can't we have some dungeons where we start killing the good guys.
Its probably the only route to go if they want to start warcraft 4 fresh or they could completely dis-regard world of warcraft as canon, that would solve a ton of problems in my opinion, make wow fun and warcraft 4 matter.
Diablo story is far from brilliant its just far more enjoyable, interesting and isn't ripped from something game workshops made, its original.
I will admit the books are great stories but the games in general aren't the greatest, while they tell the story they don't tell enough of it, they tell you enough to understand what your doing, why and let you go about your business.
I hope they expand the story greatly in diablo 3, cause it truly is unique at the moment.
In the new trailer, it reshows Tyreal throwing his sword at the world stone, maybe we wiill finally see the outcome of that event in its full cinematic glory!
You can't compare the brilliance of the Diablo story to the pile of crap that is Warcraft lore. With every patch and every new raid, they are slowly killing the entire cast of WC3. Soon there will be no-one left. All their lore characters go insane, and then must be killed off as 25 man raid bosses. Soon we'll be killing Malygos, Arthas, and after that they'll probably release the Maelstrom and Emerald Dream where we'll have to kill off Azshara, and Malfurion who somehow will probably go insane for no reason. In fact, since WoW, the Warcraft storyline hasn't progressed at all, the only thing that has happened is that all the characters are dying for no good reason.
WarCraft has excellent lore leading into World of WarCraft and then it just ends. Neither lore is the same and neither is better, when Diablo gets turned into an MMO, expect the same lore butchery.
You can't compare the brilliance of the Diablo story to the pile of crap that is Warcraft lore. With every patch and every new raid, they are slowly killing the entire cast of WC3. Soon there will be no-one left. All their lore characters go insane, and then must be killed off as 25 man raid bosses. Soon we'll be killing Malygos, Arthas, and after that they'll probably release the Maelstrom and Emerald Dream where we'll have to kill off Azshara, and Malfurion who somehow will probably go insane for no reason. In fact, since WoW, the Warcraft storyline hasn't progressed at all, the only thing that has happened is that all the characters are dying for no good reason.
Sounds like hamlet...all that does is leave room for Warcraft 4, which will be like 20-50 years later, where the surviors of the evil are all old and the children will be the new mighty heros we see runing around Stormwind, Adriann will be all grown up and the new official king of stormwind.
World of Warcraft is NOT on topic, so lets return to the Diablo 2/Diablo 3 map discussion.
Yes, please! I am here to discuss Diablo.
Here's a recap of what we have so far:
Quote from "platking" »
Mount Arreat has been replaced with Arreat crater....
Second, the Amazon Islands have been renamed Skovos Isles....
the naming of the before unamed island of Xiansai
Quote from "Ranim" »
one of the islands near Skovo is an unknown one too: Skartara
Why are Skartara and Xiansai pointed out.
Quote from "Ralsu" »
Another notable change: Scosglen looks very desert-like in the Diablo III map. In the Vizjeri's account of the hunting and trapping of Baal in the Diablo II manual, he says the mages hunting Baal assumed the Lord of Destruction was continue north past Lut Gholein and head for "snowy" Scosglen.
There was speculation that the world of Sanctuary might be flat right before the two pages of WoW O/T.
Another thing I have noted is that the region formerly labeled as Ensteig has now been further defined with Ensteig as a single location and the rest of the area noted as Sharval Wilds.
After reading this thread, I've seen alot of views on what's going to be in Diablo 3, I decided to put my own theory in concerning the Prophecy of the Final Day:
I'm guessing that Xiansai and Skovos Isles are going to be reserved for the Expansion pack.
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As the shadow once again crawls across our world...
...the stench of terror drifts on a bitter wind,
The people pray for strength and guidance ..
they should pray for the mercy of a swift death
for I have seen what the darkness hides.
Im thinking we are getting mounts and different points of views so we aren't "looking down" at our char all the time. Or we will walk LONG distances to get places till we get telepoints or something.
I wonder if a single online game will host both continents.
Or if we'll even be able to explore everything on that map. :3
what do you mean dude
its not like in mmo rpg, the areas rendered by your pc are only the ones you are in
it will also be diveded in acts, not continents
I would love to go everywhere on the map that be sweet.
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If you want to arrange it
This world you can change it
If we could somehow make this
Christmas thing last
By helping a neighbor
Or even a stranger
And to know who needs help
You need only just ask
Hm, well, let's see why that is. Oh yes, THE WORLDSTONE WAS BLOWN TO KINGDOM COME!
Yep. Notice how on the new map its not Mt. Arreat. Its now Arreat Crater.
How does this look like a WoW map? Because its hand drawn? Because there are two continents? Honestly who gives a flying five as long as it doesn't play like WoW?
Why wouldn't you be able to host a game that included the whole game world? All your computer would be doing is tracking what mobs and other players are doing. With that being said though I hope Blizzard uses real servers for SC2 and D3. Not this BS where you are actually hosting the game for the other players. I think thats probably what this Battle.net upgrade is.
Also about the comment about Scosglen. I don't think that increases the likelyhood that the druid will come back as a playable class. The amazon islands are there too but I don't think 3/5 of the classes will be old classes.
Really?
Its not like the story is diablo is much better, but at least its more interesting with its themes to play an thats really what matters to a gamer.
An if blizzard didn't have something up there sleeve after Arthas it would be completely stupid of them don't you think? Its like giving away money not to milk all those millions of people for everything they are worth.
Its not like the warcraft story in world of warcraft isn't about the same as it would otherwise be in the RTS version anyway, its pretty much the same just not in the regular genre that it has occupied for the other games in the series.
Its not like video games have brilliant story's anyway, they are just interesting universe to explore and discover through a players experiences.
If we wanted great stories we would read books, we just want interesting themes to play for our entertainment, expanding this to make our gameplay more enjoyable hasn't really been a problem lately, most games nowadays cannibalize there stories to improve the players experience, should be happy you get something instead of nothing.
You can't compare the brilliance of the Diablo story to the pile of crap that is Warcraft lore. With every patch and every new raid, they are slowly killing the entire cast of WC3. Soon there will be no-one left. All their lore characters go insane, and then must be killed off as 25 man raid bosses. Soon we'll be killing Malygos, Arthas, and after that they'll probably release the Maelstrom and Emerald Dream where we'll have to kill off Azshara, and Malfurion who somehow will probably go insane for no reason. In fact, since WoW, the Warcraft storyline hasn't progressed at all, the only thing that has happened is that all the characters are dying for no good reason.
I doubt we will kill malfurion, he is fighting the corruption in the emerald dream, it would be stupid of them to do it but then again they've made quite a few mistakes when it comes to warcraft lately that fighting the good guys wouldn't be out of the question.
I've never understood why the horde had to fight in the same dungeons that alliance did, its not like either sides are allies, so why can't we have some dungeons where we start killing the good guys.
Its probably the only route to go if they want to start warcraft 4 fresh or they could completely dis-regard world of warcraft as canon, that would solve a ton of problems in my opinion, make wow fun and warcraft 4 matter.
Diablo story is far from brilliant its just far more enjoyable, interesting and isn't ripped from something game workshops made, its original.
I will admit the books are great stories but the games in general aren't the greatest, while they tell the story they don't tell enough of it, they tell you enough to understand what your doing, why and let you go about your business.
I hope they expand the story greatly in diablo 3, cause it truly is unique at the moment.
https://www.deviantart.com/aerisot
WarCraft has excellent lore leading into World of WarCraft and then it just ends. Neither lore is the same and neither is better, when Diablo gets turned into an MMO, expect the same lore butchery.
Sounds like hamlet...all that does is leave room for Warcraft 4, which will be like 20-50 years later, where the surviors of the evil are all old and the children will be the new mighty heros we see runing around Stormwind, Adriann will be all grown up and the new official king of stormwind.
https://www.deviantart.com/aerisot
Here's a recap of what we have so far:
There was speculation that the world of Sanctuary might be flat right before the two pages of WoW O/T.
Another thing I have noted is that the region formerly labeled as Ensteig has now been further defined with Ensteig as a single location and the rest of the area noted as Sharval Wilds.
After having played EverQuest for five years, I can tell you that it, too, is circling the bowl.
Cheers,
SmashBoy (got tired of clinging to the few remaining turd droplets for dear life)
http://www.diablofans.com/forums/showthread.php?t=11771
THE GRAPHIC OF THE MAP LOOKS LIKE MAPS FROM WOW!!!!
SEE ITS EXACTLY LIKE WOW!!!!BLIZZARD IS SO STUPID. WOW IS GAY. NOW IM NOT BUYING DIABLO 3.
/sarcasm
...the stench of terror drifts on a bitter wind,
The people pray for strength and guidance ..
they should pray for the mercy of a swift death
for I have seen what the darkness hides.
yeah except that its almost exactly a copy of the Diablo2 map...
Or if we'll even be able to explore everything on that map. :3
its not like in mmo rpg, the areas rendered by your pc are only the ones you are in
it will also be diveded in acts, not continents
If you want to arrange it
This world you can change it
If we could somehow make this
Christmas thing last
By helping a neighbor
Or even a stranger
And to know who needs help
You need only just ask
Yep. Notice how on the new map its not Mt. Arreat. Its now Arreat Crater.
How does this look like a WoW map? Because its hand drawn? Because there are two continents? Honestly who gives a flying five as long as it doesn't play like WoW?
Why wouldn't you be able to host a game that included the whole game world? All your computer would be doing is tracking what mobs and other players are doing. With that being said though I hope Blizzard uses real servers for SC2 and D3. Not this BS where you are actually hosting the game for the other players. I think thats probably what this Battle.net upgrade is.
Also about the comment about Scosglen. I don't think that increases the likelyhood that the druid will come back as a playable class. The amazon islands are there too but I don't think 3/5 of the classes will be old classes.