I'd also recommend Corsair PSU since I use that myself. Very quiet and efficient.
Go with the XFX graphics card since that has 2GB of memory vs the 1GB of the MSI.
The cpu heatsink that superfula recommended looks good as well and has a reasonable price. I don't think you have to stay away from self-contained liquid coolers, there are some good ones (the more expensive ones) but in this price range there's just not too much of a difference from air cooling.
I don't think you have to stay away from self-contained liquid coolers, there are some good ones (the more expensive ones) but in this price range there's just not too much of a difference from air cooling.
In any price range for a self-contained liquid cooler, there's little to no difference than a cheaper air-cooler. What draws people to the liquid is some don't like the massive air solutions hanging off their motherboard. The liquid can be quieter in some cases, depending upon what kind of fans are cooling the radiator.
The CoolerMaster Hyper or Plus is going to be dead quiet and easily get you to 4.5 GHz
As far as video cards...I'd go with the MSI simply because it's going to be significantly quieter than the XFX. Unless of course you are planning on some long BF3 sessions, which would make the 2GB model worth it. Then again, the 2GB would help down the road, as games will get more and more complex.
I don't think you have to stay away from self-contained liquid coolers, there are some good ones (the more expensive ones) but in this price range there's just not too much of a difference from air cooling.
In any price range for a self-contained liquid cooler, there's little to no difference than a cheaper air-cooler. What draws people to the liquid is some don't like the massive air solutions hanging off their motherboard. The liquid can be quieter in some cases, depending upon what kind of fans are cooling the radiator.
The CoolerMaster Hyper or Plus is going to be dead quiet and easily get you to 4.5 GHz
As far as video cards...I'd go with the MSI simply because it's going to be significantly quieter than the XFX. Unless of course you are planning on some long BF3 sessions, which would make the 2GB model worth it. Then again, the 2GB would help down the road, as games will get more and more complex.
I wouldn't say there's little to no difference. For example the Corsair Hydro H80 and H100 and the Antec Kühler 920 perform significantly better than the more expensive air solutions such as various Noctua coolers. Now the difference is not huge but if you want to maximise your cooling for overclocking and such then I would definitely recommend one of them. For a regular PC like this air is definitely the way to go and it's tbh I'd probably say it's not worth the extra money for any system unless you have a lot of money to spare, but just saying that there is a difference in performence :).
I wouldn't say there's little to no difference. For example the Corsair Hydro H80 and H100 and the Antec Kühler 920 perform significantly better than the more expensive air solutions such as various Noctua coolers. Now the difference is not huge but if you want to maximise your cooling for overclocking and such then I would definitely recommend one of them. For a regular PC like this air is definitely the way to go and it's tbh I'd probably say it's not worth the extra money for any system unless you have a lot of money to spare, but just saying that there is a difference in performence :).
I haven't seen a review that shows ANY liquid solution producing better results than an air solution. I also haven't seen any stores that sell an H80, H100 or the 920 cheaper than what you can get a Noctua NH-D14 for, which consistently outperforms all three liquid solutions mentioned.
Certainly other sites have different means of testing, but I can't imagine it would be that large of a difference from the sites above. Now if you want to push the CPU to extremes, liquid will be better option. But for normal usage to a small bit of overclocking, air is still the way to go
I wouldn't say there's little to no difference. For example the Corsair Hydro H80 and H100 and the Antec Kühler 920 perform significantly better than the more expensive air solutions such as various Noctua coolers. Now the difference is not huge but if you want to maximise your cooling for overclocking and such then I would definitely recommend one of them. For a regular PC like this air is definitely the way to go and it's tbh I'd probably say it's not worth the extra money for any system unless you have a lot of money to spare, but just saying that there is a difference in performence :).
I haven't seen a review that shows ANY liquid solution producing better results than an air solution. I also haven't seen any stores that sell an H80, H100 or the 920 cheaper than what you can get a Noctua NH-D14 for, which consistently outperforms all three liquid solutions mentioned.
Certainly other sites have different means of testing, but I can't imagine it would be that large of a difference from the sites above. Now if you want to push the CPU to extremes, liquid will be better option. But for normal usage to a small bit of overclocking, air is still the way to go
Well well, we are kinda off topic already and I do agree with you, just wanted to point out that liquid does have it's spot although it's generally not preferable. As you say, air is a lot more cost effective and I do prefer that over liquid in almost any case.
@OP Any other questions that you have regarding your computer setup?
power supply
Antec EarthWatts EA-650 GREEN 650W ATX12V v2.3 SLI Ready CrossFire Certified 80 PLUS BRONZE Certified Active PFC Power Supply http://www.newegg.co...N82E16817371044
i also found a good power supply CORSAIR Professional Series HX750 (CMPSU-750HX) 750W ATX12V 2.3 / EPS12V 2.91 SLI Ready CrossFire Ready 80 PLUS SILVER Certified Modular Active PFC Power Supply
here a few things i may want to put in it
Rosewill CHALLENGER Black Gaming ATX Mid Tower Computer Case, comes with Three Fans
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16811147153
XFX Radeon HD 6870 2GB
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16814150563&Tpk=XFX Radeon HD 6870 2GB
or
MSI R6870 Twin Frozr II Radeon HD 6870 1GB
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16814127545
motherboard
GIGABYTE GA-Z68XP-UD3 LGA 1155 Intel Z68 HDMI SATA 6Gb/s USB 3.0 ATX Intel Motherboard
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16813128512
power supply
Antec EarthWatts EA-650 GREEN 650W ATX12V v2.3 SLI Ready CrossFire Certified 80 PLUS BRONZE Certified Active PFC Power Supply
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16817371044
or should i buy corsair power supply
cpu
Intel Core i5-2500K Sandy Bridge 3.3GHz (3.7GHz Turbo Boost)
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16819115072
G.SKILL Ripjaws Series 8GB memory
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16820231314
Seagate Barracuda ST31000524AS 1TB 7200 RPM
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16822148697
dvd drive
ASUS 24X DVD Burner - Bulk 24X DVD+R 8X DVD+RW 12X DVD+R DL 24X DVD-R 6X DVD-RW 16X DVD-ROM 48X CD-R 32X CD-RW 48X CD-ROM Black SATA Model DRW-24B1ST/BLK/B/AS - OEM
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16827135204
cpu heatsink
COOLER MASTER Hyper 212 EVO
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16835103099
or liquid cooler
Antec Kuhler H2O 620 Liquid Cooling System
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16835209049&nm_mc=OTC-Froogle&cm_mmc=OTC-Froogle-_-Water Cooling-_-Antec-_-35209049
here are some other cooler i may want
COOLER MASTER Hyper N 520 RR-920-N520-GP
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16835103057
COOLER MASTER V8 RR-UV8-XBU1-GP 120mm Rifle CPU Cooler Intel Core i7 compatible
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16835103055
COOLER MASTER V6 GT RR-V6GT-22PK-R1
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16835103089
i found computer build bundle
http://www.newegg.com/Product/ComboBundleDetails.aspx?ItemList=Combo.755265
Core i5-2500K/Z68 Gaming SuperCombo
Intel HD built-in graphics; overclocking ready
I'd suggest going with a Corsair psu.
As far as the cpu fan/heatsink, I'd with with the CM 212 Plus http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16835103065
The Evo is newer, but from what I've read, there is little to no difference between the two, and the Plus is a bit cheaper.
Stay away from the self-contained liquid coolers. They are pricier and in many cases perform worse than air solutions, the Plus/Evo included.
I'd also recommend Corsair PSU since I use that myself. Very quiet and efficient.
Go with the XFX graphics card since that has 2GB of memory vs the 1GB of the MSI.
The cpu heatsink that superfula recommended looks good as well and has a reasonable price. I don't think you have to stay away from self-contained liquid coolers, there are some good ones (the more expensive ones) but in this price range there's just not too much of a difference from air cooling.
In any price range for a self-contained liquid cooler, there's little to no difference than a cheaper air-cooler. What draws people to the liquid is some don't like the massive air solutions hanging off their motherboard. The liquid can be quieter in some cases, depending upon what kind of fans are cooling the radiator.
The CoolerMaster Hyper or Plus is going to be dead quiet and easily get you to 4.5 GHz
As far as video cards...I'd go with the MSI simply because it's going to be significantly quieter than the XFX. Unless of course you are planning on some long BF3 sessions, which would make the 2GB model worth it. Then again, the 2GB would help down the road, as games will get more and more complex.
I wouldn't say there's little to no difference. For example the Corsair Hydro H80 and H100 and the Antec Kühler 920 perform significantly better than the more expensive air solutions such as various Noctua coolers. Now the difference is not huge but if you want to maximise your cooling for overclocking and such then I would definitely recommend one of them. For a regular PC like this air is definitely the way to go and it's tbh I'd probably say it's not worth the extra money for any system unless you have a lot of money to spare, but just saying that there is a difference in performence :).
I haven't seen a review that shows ANY liquid solution producing better results than an air solution. I also haven't seen any stores that sell an H80, H100 or the 920 cheaper than what you can get a Noctua NH-D14 for, which consistently outperforms all three liquid solutions mentioned.
http://www.overclock...hydro_h80/4.htm
http://www.guru3d.co...r-h100-review/7
http://www.hardwares...r-Review/1314/6
http://www.kitguru.n...o-920-review/5/
Certainly other sites have different means of testing, but I can't imagine it would be that large of a difference from the sites above. Now if you want to push the CPU to extremes, liquid will be better option. But for normal usage to a small bit of overclocking, air is still the way to go
True! I was looking at the http://www.hardwareh...erformance.html And maximum overclock (where the performance of liquid is more noticable): http://www.hardwareh...-overclock.html which compared to the Noctua C14 and not the D14.
Well well, we are kinda off topic already and I do agree with you, just wanted to point out that liquid does have it's spot although it's generally not preferable. As you say, air is a lot more cost effective and I do prefer that over liquid in almost any case.
@OP Any other questions that you have regarding your computer setup?
well i found new computer case for this build
COOLER MASTER RC-692-KKN2 CM690 II Black Steel ATX Mid Tower Computer Case
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16811119216
i also found a good power supply
CORSAIR Professional Series HX750 (CMPSU-750HX) 750W ATX12V 2.3 / EPS12V 2.91 SLI Ready CrossFire Ready 80 PLUS SILVER Certified Modular Active PFC Power Supply
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16817139010
video cards i might get
XFX HD-695X-CNDC Radeon HD 6950 2GB
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16814150550
XFX HD-695X-ZNDC Radeon HD 6950 1GB
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16814150524