proof diablo is dying "actually already dead nearly" because of exp exploits and changed to trial mid season and poor mob density and pylons in rifts...not saying the should remove pylons mid season. im saying it should have never been there to begin with, same with bad mob density and zombie skelton rifts. and btw i even tested these numbers, joined a game, left, waited 30-45 seconds rejoined. same game over and over again. and even regular rifts are bad at night dropping below 200 people. you might say..well..200 people is playable. but the thing is most of those games are full, so with low numbers like that you will keep getting in the same game over and over again.
sure you can say but i have friends to play with, but what happends when theres an even bigger change mid season? or another BIG exploit they dont fix? then even your friends might quit..most people already have.
im not trying to bash diablo, im trying to bring attention to the problems they've made and show you the consequences to make the game a better game.
That screenshot of an unspecified realm at an unspecified time is proof that not only the game is boned but that it's specifically because of changes to trials and exp exploits? That's impressive.
My clan is still active, my friends list is still active. My anecdotal evidence and yours seem to not agree, solution? PILLOW FIGHT!
That screenshot of an unspecified realm at an unspecified time is proof that not only the game is boned but that it's specifically because of changes to trials and exp exploits? That's impressive.
My clan is still active, my friends list is still active. My anecdotal evidence and yours seem to not agree, solution? PILLOW FIGHT!
yeah...i dont know how to make it show time, im not great with computers, if you dont blieve go check for yourself, and there is no realms its seasons and non seasons. and this is seasons at pretty much prime time. you guys will defend blizzard to the gates of hell its funny. seriously EVERYONE go check if you dont believe me and go ahead and post your results. id take a screenshot with my clock at the bottom of my screen but youd complain about that to. and im saying the game is dying from all of these problems combine that MOST of you say is completly okay. well now do you think its completly okay? sure you have an active guild...not hard to get 150 people...which most guilds do not have. after all most games have millions. buts thats going to keep growing smaller and smaller if they dont stop doing things like these. i think the fact that there were thousands of people doing t 6 greater rifts at the begining of the season and now there is 36 st prime time says quite a bit. and i know torment doesnt matter for g rifts but most people are t6 cabaple and just leave it on t 6.
D3 is definitely dying to exploits. People are sick of cheaters gaining massively with each patch and Blizzard completely shoving it under the rug like its nothing. Season 1 of ladders ruined (arguably the most important one) paragon ruined as well Kadala ruined. I really dont see where the game is headed other than into the ground.
D3 is definitely dying to exploits. People are sick of cheaters gaining massively with each patch and Blizzard completely shoving it under the rug like its nothing. Season 1 of ladders ruined (arguably the most important one) paragon ruined as well Kadala ruined. I really dont see where the game is headed other than into the ground.
completly agree, and i doubt people will buy another expansion or blizz will even make another expansion at this rate. seasons were the most important thing this game had to offer, people were sick of doing t 6 and nothing else for almost a year and once you reach a certain point on the leaderboards its gonna be monthes till its broken on retail servers. seasons were like the cheese on a pizza, otherwise all you got is dough and sauce.
It's season one bro. Relax. They are trying to get shit right. Are you really going to care two seasons from now that in season one shit changed? Probably not. It's really not that bad. And I think d3 has come a long way. If you don't like it just stop playing until season two comes out.
It's season one bro. Relax. They are trying to get shit right. Are you really going to care two seasons from now that in season one shit changed? Probably not. It's really not that bad. And I think d3 has come a long way. If you don't like it just stop playing until season two comes out.
i already have but i dont want season 2 to be just as bad, and on top of that what makes you think all these people that quit are coming back? hell i couldnt blame them if they didnt. season one was important because it was VERY important to make a good first impression and not a complete joke like it has been. if you ate at a diner and got a cockroach in your food would you say well...its only the first time i went there. maybe i should go back in a month or two, its only been open a few monthes. i doubt it, and thats how most people think.
That screenshot of an unspecified realm at an unspecified time is proof that not only the game is boned but that it's specifically because of changes to trials and exp exploits? That's impressive.
My clan is still active, my friends list is still active. My anecdotal evidence and yours seem to not agree, solution? PILLOW FIGHT!
yeah...i dont know how to make it show time, im not great with computers, if you dont blieve go check for yourself, and there is no realms its seasons and non seasons. and this is seasons at pretty much prime time. you guys will defend blizzard to the gates of hell its funny. seriously EVERYONE go check if you dont believe me and go ahead and post your results. id take a screenshot with my clock at the bottom of my screen but youd complain about that to. and im saying the game is dying from all of these problems combine that MOST of you say is completly okay. well now do you think its completly okay? sure you have an active guild...not hard to get 150 people...which most guilds do not have. after all most games have millions. buts thats going to keep growing smaller and smaller if they dont stop doing things like these. i think the fact that there were thousands of people doing t 6 greater rifts at the begining of the season and now there is 36 st prime time says quite a bit. and i know torment doesnt matter for g rifts but most people are t6 cabaple and just leave it on t 6.
1) Source that most people are capable of T6. (Hint: "Most" people are not.)
2) Right now there are 270 people in T6 public games on the US region non-seasonal. It shouldn't be any surprise to anyone but the most competitive of people that non-seasonal is more popular than seasonal. For the average player there is zero reason to compete in seasons, especially this first season which is pretty much a huge test of seasons since Blizzard has stated in the past that PTRs and Betas provide less testing feedback than they'd actually like.
3) Read your own thread title, you claim to have PROOF of the reason why there are so few people playing in seasons. Yet you haven't shown any of this proof that you supposedly have. At best you have proof that season 1 had little longevity, or that season 1 wasn't very popular, in the PUG scene but you don't have proof of why, and you also don't show how popular pugging was in seasons. You're looking at a minority of a minority and making a judgment on the entire game based on that with zero historical data.
4) Regions not mattering is news to me considering that the regions in this game are completely separate and always have been.
5) Don't accuse me of blindly defending Blizzard and their decisions, they make plenty that I disagree with. When you're wrong and use poor wording and someone calls you on making claims and having no proof it doesn't mean that they're part of the Blizzard defense force, just that they feel that you personally are wrong.
That screenshot of an unspecified realm at an unspecified time is proof that not only the game is boned but that it's specifically because of changes to trials and exp exploits? That's impressive.
My clan is still active, my friends list is still active. My anecdotal evidence and yours seem to not agree, solution? PILLOW FIGHT!
yeah...i dont know how to make it show time, im not great with computers, if you dont blieve go check for yourself, and there is no realms its seasons and non seasons. and this is seasons at pretty much prime time. you guys will defend blizzard to the gates of hell its funny. seriously EVERYONE go check if you dont believe me and go ahead and post your results. id take a screenshot with my clock at the bottom of my screen but youd complain about that to. and im saying the game is dying from all of these problems combine that MOST of you say is completly okay. well now do you think its completly okay? sure you have an active guild...not hard to get 150 people...which most guilds do not have. after all most games have millions. buts thats going to keep growing smaller and smaller if they dont stop doing things like these. i think the fact that there were thousands of people doing t 6 greater rifts at the begining of the season and now there is 36 st prime time says quite a bit. and i know torment doesnt matter for g rifts but most people are t6 cabaple and just leave it on t 6.
1) Source that most people are capable of T6. (Hint: "Most" people are not.)
2) Right now there are 270 people in T6 public games on the US region non-seasonal. It shouldn't be any surprise to anyone but the most competitive of people that non-seasonal is more popular than seasonal. For the average player there is zero reason to compete in seasons, especially this first season which is pretty much a huge test of seasons since Blizzard has stated in the past that PTRs and Betas provide less testing feedback than they'd actually like.
3) Read your own thread title, you claim to have PROOF of the reason why there are so few people playing in seasons. Yet you haven't shown any of this proof that you supposedly have. At best you have proof that season 1 had little longevity, or that season 1 wasn't very popular, in the PUG scene but you don't have proof of why, and you also don't show how popular pugging was in seasons. You're looking at a minority of a minority and making a judgment on the entire game based on that with zero historical data.
4) Regions not mattering is news to me considering that the regions in this game are completely separate and always have been.
5) Don't accuse me of blindly defending Blizzard and their decisions, they make plenty that I disagree with. When you're wrong and use poor wording and someone calls you on making claims and having no proof it doesn't mean that they're part of the Blizzard defense force, just that they feel that you personally are wrong.
i think anyone who has played seasons saw that there were thousands of people in public games when it started. and 270 people is like nothing dude, you just proved to me that the game is dying..probably shouldnt have said that. and the majority of players DO join a public game here and there especially when theres not a lot of groups in there clan or the groups that are there are full. so no i would hardly call public games a minority. even if there was fewer people, even half, even 30%, the numbers are so low that its something to show that at least points where the game is headed and where its at.
do you have anything that shows otherwise? i doubt it, this is least something to go off of. how do you think guilds start huh? public games...sure you can post on the forums, but theres more people that dont use the forums then do. so even then your gonna need to play public games to find people.
Didn't you "uninstall and quit forever" because it turns out you were just bad at the game?
lmao couldnt think of anything else to say? yes i did uninstall the game, and my friend told me about crusaders and how they are much better. and they are, i started to play for a while, got 3 ahkan pieces. then they pulled this crap with the trials so i did quit. didnt uninstall it though, i found a class i actually like and want to play the game but not when theres major problems that need to be adressed. i havent decided if i wanted to give season 2 a shot yet. it doesnt sound like they have things under control at all but id like to play. and all of this bs about you dont pay monthly blah blah, you pay them for the game, and theres always new people buying it especially when a new patch comes out. theres many games that are like this and succesful to, sounds to me like your making excuses for them. what the game should be filled with exploits and them ruining the leaderboards because they dont get payed enough? please diablo has made a ton of money especially when the game first came out and it was a complete bust, in fact they made all that money and produced such a poor game i think people deserve a good game when they pay for the game a second time. instead people pay for the game a second time and for seasons its almost as bad as when it first released if your trying to compete. i know its hard to compare the two but thats my opinion.
and people think that just because im trying to bring attention to these problems i should quit, i dont want to quit. but i do want to compete and at this point thats not possible without major changes. whats the point in playing for 3 monthes and having your charcter wiped if theres no goal in those 3 monthes? after season 3 or 4 a lot of people would get really bored if there was no leaderboard to shoot for.
That screenshot of an unspecified realm at an unspecified time is proof that not only the game is boned but that it's specifically because of changes to trials and exp exploits? That's impressive.
My clan is still active, my friends list is still active. My anecdotal evidence and yours seem to not agree, solution? PILLOW FIGHT!
yeah...i dont know how to make it show time, im not great with computers, if you dont blieve go check for yourself, and there is no realms its seasons and non seasons. and this is seasons at pretty much prime time. you guys will defend blizzard to the gates of hell its funny. seriously EVERYONE go check if you dont believe me and go ahead and post your results. id take a screenshot with my clock at the bottom of my screen but youd complain about that to. and im saying the game is dying from all of these problems combine that MOST of you say is completly okay. well now do you think its completly okay? sure you have an active guild...not hard to get 150 people...which most guilds do not have. after all most games have millions. buts thats going to keep growing smaller and smaller if they dont stop doing things like these. i think the fact that there were thousands of people doing t 6 greater rifts at the begining of the season and now there is 36 st prime time says quite a bit. and i know torment doesnt matter for g rifts but most people are t6 cabaple and just leave it on t 6.
1) Source that most people are capable of T6. (Hint: "Most" people are not.)
2) Right now there are 270 people in T6 public games on the US region non-seasonal. It shouldn't be any surprise to anyone but the most competitive of people that non-seasonal is more popular than seasonal. For the average player there is zero reason to compete in seasons, especially this first season which is pretty much a huge test of seasons since Blizzard has stated in the past that PTRs and Betas provide less testing feedback than they'd actually like.
3) Read your own thread title, you claim to have PROOF of the reason why there are so few people playing in seasons. Yet you haven't shown any of this proof that you supposedly have. At best you have proof that season 1 had little longevity, or that season 1 wasn't very popular, in the PUG scene but you don't have proof of why, and you also don't show how popular pugging was in seasons. You're looking at a minority of a minority and making a judgment on the entire game based on that with zero historical data.
4) Regions not mattering is news to me considering that the regions in this game are completely separate and always have been.
5) Don't accuse me of blindly defending Blizzard and their decisions, they make plenty that I disagree with. When you're wrong and use poor wording and someone calls you on making claims and having no proof it doesn't mean that they're part of the Blizzard defense force, just that they feel that you personally are wrong.
i think anyone who has played seasons saw that there were thousands of people in public games when it started. and 270 people is like nothing dude, you just proved to me that the game is dying..probably shouldnt have said that. and the majority of players DO join a public game here and there especially when theres not a lot of groups in there clan or the groups that are there are full. so no i would hardly call public games a minority. even if there was fewer people, even half, even 30%, the numbers are so low that its something to show that at least points where the game is headed and where its at.
do you have anything that shows otherwise? i doubt it, this is least something to go off of. how do you think guilds start huh? public games...sure you can post on the forums, but theres more people that dont use the forums then do. so even then your gonna need to play public games to find people.
You made the claim bro, burden of proof is on you.
And you keep making claims and providing no proof of these claims. For example, you say that the majority of people join a public game here and there. Proof on that? You claim that anyone that has played seasons not only played a public game but bothered to check how many people were playing in public games. Proof? I won't dispute that there are fewer players now than at the launch of seasons, that should actually be fairly obvious. What I will dispute is your claim that you have proof of the cause of that. You claim that communities come from public games. Proof? Public games and seasonal players and especially seasonal public players are a significant portion of the player base? Proof?
Your thread title says you have proof, but so far you've posted proof of none of your claims. Where's the proof?
Seriously, all of your posts reek of butthurt and being bad and blaming it on everyone else, your proof is again, laughable and your attitude, childish.
That screenshot of an unspecified realm at an unspecified time is proof that not only the game is boned but that it's specifically because of changes to trials and exp exploits? That's impressive.
My clan is still active, my friends list is still active. My anecdotal evidence and yours seem to not agree, solution? PILLOW FIGHT!
yeah...i dont know how to make it show time, im not great with computers, if you dont blieve go check for yourself, and there is no realms its seasons and non seasons. and this is seasons at pretty much prime time. you guys will defend blizzard to the gates of hell its funny. seriously EVERYONE go check if you dont believe me and go ahead and post your results. id take a screenshot with my clock at the bottom of my screen but youd complain about that to. and im saying the game is dying from all of these problems combine that MOST of you say is completly okay. well now do you think its completly okay? sure you have an active guild...not hard to get 150 people...which most guilds do not have. after all most games have millions. buts thats going to keep growing smaller and smaller if they dont stop doing things like these. i think the fact that there were thousands of people doing t 6 greater rifts at the begining of the season and now there is 36 st prime time says quite a bit. and i know torment doesnt matter for g rifts but most people are t6 cabaple and just leave it on t 6.
1) Source that most people are capable of T6. (Hint: "Most" people are not.)
2) Right now there are 270 people in T6 public games on the US region non-seasonal. It shouldn't be any surprise to anyone but the most competitive of people that non-seasonal is more popular than seasonal. For the average player there is zero reason to compete in seasons, especially this first season which is pretty much a huge test of seasons since Blizzard has stated in the past that PTRs and Betas provide less testing feedback than they'd actually like.
3) Read your own thread title, you claim to have PROOF of the reason why there are so few people playing in seasons. Yet you haven't shown any of this proof that you supposedly have. At best you have proof that season 1 had little longevity, or that season 1 wasn't very popular, in the PUG scene but you don't have proof of why, and you also don't show how popular pugging was in seasons. You're looking at a minority of a minority and making a judgment on the entire game based on that with zero historical data.
4) Regions not mattering is news to me considering that the regions in this game are completely separate and always have been.
5) Don't accuse me of blindly defending Blizzard and their decisions, they make plenty that I disagree with. When you're wrong and use poor wording and someone calls you on making claims and having no proof it doesn't mean that they're part of the Blizzard defense force, just that they feel that you personally are wrong.
i think anyone who has played seasons saw that there were thousands of people in public games when it started. and 270 people is like nothing dude, you just proved to me that the game is dying..probably shouldnt have said that. and the majority of players DO join a public game here and there especially when theres not a lot of groups in there clan or the groups that are there are full. so no i would hardly call public games a minority. even if there was fewer people, even half, even 30%, the numbers are so low that its something to show that at least points where the game is headed and where its at.
do you have anything that shows otherwise? i doubt it, this is least something to go off of. how do you think guilds start huh? public games...sure you can post on the forums, but theres more people that dont use the forums then do. so even then your gonna need to play public games to find people.
You made the claim bro, burden of proof is on you.
And you keep making claims and providing no proof of these claims. For example, you say that the majority of people join a public game here and there. Proof on that? You claim that anyone that has played seasons not only played a public game but bothered to check how many people were playing in public games. Proof? I won't dispute that there are fewer players now than at the launch of seasons, that should actually be fairly obvious. What I will dispute is your claim that you have proof of the cause of that. You claim that communities come from public games. Proof? Public games and seasonal players and especially seasonal public players are a significant portion of the player base? Proof?
Your thread title says you have proof, but so far you've posted proof of none of your claims. Where's the proof?
wheres your proof? your making claims that its not dying, and yet you dont provide proof? at the very least i have provided proof that the game is dying for people that play in public games if nothing else and i know many people do. and what happens when nobodys on in your clan, or when all the groups are full in your clan? well..i guess you hafta play by your self if you wanna do greater rifts. but sure thats no problemo at all. i mean after all most people do meet in public games. do you want proof for that to? well i got news for you theres not proof for everything, i cant just hack into blizz's servers and give you numbers. i think this should at least show where the game is headed, and where its at now. pretty much just showing where its at now shows you where the game is headed. i think most people have played public games at least a few times at this point in the season and if they havent then they just soloed by themself instead, but a lot of people were not capable of that and still arent. so yes that is why public games are important. a lot of peoples clan are not going to help them make a new charcter and get them all they're gear. that could takes days if not a week or so, and sure theres people that are nice, and might help reach 70, but not a lot of people are that nice and will help you get your whole set to do t 6.
230 people or whatever you said is on the retail server, you could spend 20 - 30 minutes trying to find a game , getting in the same one over and over again and then you do get into an okay game but theres a level 57 paragon in the game with as bad as gear you. then its just a complete carry, and the higher paragons with all the gear will leave because they know they are carrying you and most people dont wanna do that with 2 noobies in the game, makes it much harder.
if there is 230 people that is counting the groups that are actually full also, 4 people per group thats only 57 games. and most of those games are going to be full, because the game will keep making the game full even when people leave. but sure even if 75% of the games were full and 25% were 1 or 2 open spaces, thats only 14 games...and probably less then that. but no thats not a problem at all. i mean afterall the company has only made millions upon millions of dollars...and seeing as most games have millions of players. i guess 14 open games to the public for rifts which is only one of the most popular things to do in the game isnt a big deal at all though. better hope your clan can carry you through t 6 otherwise its back to sloing t 1 once you make a new toon or get very lucky and find someone in 1 of those 14 games to carry you for more then 10 minutes.
I run with two different guilds. Both of which had nothing to do with public games. I joined a public game once ... to get the achievement. I have multiple t6 characters on both seasons and non seasons. But I guess because a huge portion of us never play public games we don't count as players to Cope? Pylons? really. Am i annoyed at the exploits and the non bans? sure. But the death of the game? You are delusional. Yes there will be more expansions. And if something else shiny doesn't come along before then to distract me I will buy it and play it happily. The game has come VERY far from the shit show that was vanilla and I played through all that, so if a few exploits bothered you go play PoE, Marvel Heroes or TL2. All very good ARPGS that would embrace your money.
I run with two different guilds. Both of which had nothing to do with public games. I joined a public game once ... to get the achievement. I have multiple t6 characters on both seasons and non seasons. But I guess because a huge portion of us never play public games we don't count as players to Cope? Pylons? really. Am i annoyed at the exploits and the non bans? sure. But the death of the game? You are delusional. Yes there will be more expansions. And if something else shiny doesn't come along before then to distract me I will buy it and play it happily. The game has come VERY far from the shit show that was vanilla and I played through all that, so if a few exploits bothered you go play PoE, Marvel Heroes or TL2. All very good ARPGS that would embrace your money.
you do count, but just because 1 or 2 people say that they didnt play public games doesnt mean that alot of people do and now cant really unless they wanna join the same game over and over again. i think says it all that there are a little overr 450 people playing rifts in public games and 36 playing greater rifts. i wonder why that is...im sure that has nothing to do with the fact thats its impossible to compete high in greater rifts now or the fact that greater rift density is terrible or even the fact thatb greater rifts give poor loot and exp. or even one of the biggest facts that you dont get jack shit for being number 1 on the leaderboards or even top 25. so tell me exactly how did the game change since last patch besides leveling up gems? theres no point in doing greater rifts and thats the problem, untill this patch the game was practically dead, noticed why only there were 1 or 2 okay streamers on twitch then when 2.1 hit everyone came back? its because all there was to do was t 6 over and over and over again with no changes...and theres still not changes because greater rifts dont even matter right now. so essentially the games back to ground 0 except for having a few fancy gems. hmmm...i wonder why there is nobody in public games. and sure you can find your guild on the forums, i think most people on the forums have found a guild that way, but the people that dont even use the forums didnt. and there are plenty of people like that if not more.
and when i say the games dead i dont mean you cant play it with friends or a clan, im saying if you dont have a clan your probably better off playing by yourself, and theres LOTS of people that dont have a clan or one thats inactive or one they dont like...and i think a lot of people would agree, playing by yourself gets very boring after some time. i like its you thats dillusional for still playing season 1...they are probably gonna end it early so not really much of a point and if they dont end it early they will lose even more people then they already have.
Do you have the entire amount of players playing the game for the day, for the week, for the month. Not everyone plays the game everyday especially for a game that is over 2 years old.
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OP's proof is that pugs dont like to to grifts, which is of course ignoring how many people are doing regular rifts, but you know, OP is a melodramatic crybaby.
By the way I'm seeing over 1000 playing t6 pubs in season, dead game amirite?
yes dead game, 1001 people is nothing, and at 5:30 there were 700, still not a lot. and that is the absolute mot popular thing in the game. ill do the math again fore you. 1000 people is 250 groups. if 75% of the groups are full..which im saying 75% because i guarentee half the games are open and not full, its not like people play for 5 minutes then leave and everyone does that. then thats 62 games OPEN...not many for prime time when there was way over 10 times that ammount maybe even 20 times that ammount at the start of t6. i remember seeing 10000 people not long ago..and this was AFTER the exp exploit. you can believe what you want, i understand you dont wanna believe your game is dying in certain ways.im just trying to privide my point of you not making you believe it.
http://i48.photobucket.com/albums/f244/Dz1028/Diablogreaterrifts.png - torment 6 36 people
http://i48.photobucket.com/albums/f244/Dz1028/Torment1.png torment one 7 people....7 PEOPLE!
proof diablo is dying "actually already dead nearly" because of exp exploits and changed to trial mid season and poor mob density and pylons in rifts...not saying the should remove pylons mid season. im saying it should have never been there to begin with, same with bad mob density and zombie skelton rifts. and btw i even tested these numbers, joined a game, left, waited 30-45 seconds rejoined. same game over and over again. and even regular rifts are bad at night dropping below 200 people. you might say..well..200 people is playable. but the thing is most of those games are full, so with low numbers like that you will keep getting in the same game over and over again.
sure you can say but i have friends to play with, but what happends when theres an even bigger change mid season? or another BIG exploit they dont fix? then even your friends might quit..most people already have.
im not trying to bash diablo, im trying to bring attention to the problems they've made and show you the consequences to make the game a better game.
My clan is still active, my friends list is still active. My anecdotal evidence and yours seem to not agree, solution? PILLOW FIGHT!
It's season one bro. Relax. They are trying to get shit right. Are you really going to care two seasons from now that in season one shit changed? Probably not. It's really not that bad. And I think d3 has come a long way. If you don't like it just stop playing until season two comes out.
2) Right now there are 270 people in T6 public games on the US region non-seasonal. It shouldn't be any surprise to anyone but the most competitive of people that non-seasonal is more popular than seasonal. For the average player there is zero reason to compete in seasons, especially this first season which is pretty much a huge test of seasons since Blizzard has stated in the past that PTRs and Betas provide less testing feedback than they'd actually like.
3) Read your own thread title, you claim to have PROOF of the reason why there are so few people playing in seasons. Yet you haven't shown any of this proof that you supposedly have. At best you have proof that season 1 had little longevity, or that season 1 wasn't very popular, in the PUG scene but you don't have proof of why, and you also don't show how popular pugging was in seasons. You're looking at a minority of a minority and making a judgment on the entire game based on that with zero historical data.
4) Regions not mattering is news to me considering that the regions in this game are completely separate and always have been.
5) Don't accuse me of blindly defending Blizzard and their decisions, they make plenty that I disagree with. When you're wrong and use poor wording and someone calls you on making claims and having no proof it doesn't mean that they're part of the Blizzard defense force, just that they feel that you personally are wrong.
do you have anything that shows otherwise? i doubt it, this is least something to go off of. how do you think guilds start huh? public games...sure you can post on the forums, but theres more people that dont use the forums then do. so even then your gonna need to play public games to find people.
and people think that just because im trying to bring attention to these problems i should quit, i dont want to quit. but i do want to compete and at this point thats not possible without major changes. whats the point in playing for 3 monthes and having your charcter wiped if theres no goal in those 3 monthes? after season 3 or 4 a lot of people would get really bored if there was no leaderboard to shoot for.
And you keep making claims and providing no proof of these claims. For example, you say that the majority of people join a public game here and there. Proof on that? You claim that anyone that has played seasons not only played a public game but bothered to check how many people were playing in public games. Proof? I won't dispute that there are fewer players now than at the launch of seasons, that should actually be fairly obvious. What I will dispute is your claim that you have proof of the cause of that. You claim that communities come from public games. Proof? Public games and seasonal players and especially seasonal public players are a significant portion of the player base? Proof?
Your thread title says you have proof, but so far you've posted proof of none of your claims. Where's the proof?
230 people or whatever you said is on the retail server, you could spend 20 - 30 minutes trying to find a game , getting in the same one over and over again and then you do get into an okay game but theres a level 57 paragon in the game with as bad as gear you. then its just a complete carry, and the higher paragons with all the gear will leave because they know they are carrying you and most people dont wanna do that with 2 noobies in the game, makes it much harder.
if there is 230 people that is counting the groups that are actually full also, 4 people per group thats only 57 games. and most of those games are going to be full, because the game will keep making the game full even when people leave. but sure even if 75% of the games were full and 25% were 1 or 2 open spaces, thats only 14 games...and probably less then that. but no thats not a problem at all. i mean afterall the company has only made millions upon millions of dollars...and seeing as most games have millions of players. i guess 14 open games to the public for rifts which is only one of the most popular things to do in the game isnt a big deal at all though. better hope your clan can carry you through t 6 otherwise its back to sloing t 1 once you make a new toon or get very lucky and find someone in 1 of those 14 games to carry you for more then 10 minutes.
and when i say the games dead i dont mean you cant play it with friends or a clan, im saying if you dont have a clan your probably better off playing by yourself, and theres LOTS of people that dont have a clan or one thats inactive or one they dont like...and i think a lot of people would agree, playing by yourself gets very boring after some time. i like its you thats dillusional for still playing season 1...they are probably gonna end it early so not really much of a point and if they dont end it early they will lose even more people then they already have.
Do you have the entire amount of players playing the game for the day, for the week, for the month. Not everyone plays the game everyday especially for a game that is over 2 years old.