Whelp, just wrote an entire paragraph only to remember my reading skills are lacking, and that you're using a laptop, not a desktop D=
Your ram is slightly low, I'd recommend at least 6 but preferably 8 ( of DDR3 ). Windows 7 is fine, and while your processor is dated, if it's between that and a new graphics card, I'd get a new card.
Personally, and I realize this probably won't help you, but I'd invest in a desktop. Laptops that can run games at max, even D3, are pretty spendy, and it's also easier to upgrade a desktop. But don't go and buy a pre made one, buy the parts yourself from either Tigerdirect.com or Newegg.com. It's cheaper, you get exactly what you want, AND it's super easy to put together =D
As Bleu said, You're sort of SOL... Sorry. Laptops can't upgrade anything besides RAM, and even that is pretty limited usually only 2 So-DIMM ports, some only have 1. The best upgrade would be a graphics card, but sadly you aren't able to internally upgrade the GPU in any way that is normal. You'd have to make some mods to fit in a newer Mobile gpu probably and you'd have to somehow put in a new heatsink for the GPU considering your old one probably wouldn't even be able to cool 5 degrees off it. So count that out.
If your laptop is that old it may have a Mini-PCIE port in which case there are some cards that link to an external box that will house a desktop GPU that you can then use to view from a monitor, but they are pricey and shoddy at best.Thisis one such tool, but this requires a few things
A- a mini PCIE port
B- That adapter
C- A desktop GPU
D- a Monitor to output to
You're best bet if you can is buy a desktop or a better laptop. Either or should suffice. The desktop is the best option considering you can make it cheap and upgrade later, mix and match and really make it your own. And if you're overcome by the "building your own PC" thing don't worry shoot me a PM if you'd be into it as I've done it a few times before as some others on her have as well. It really isn't difficult It's like building Lego sort of.
Your ram is slightly low, I'd recommend at least 6 but preferably 8 ( of DDR3 ). Windows 7 is fine, and while your processor is dated, if it's between that and a new graphics card, I'd get a new card.
diablo 3 takes only 800MB memory i dont think higher RAM makes difference
(strangely PTR takes 1.6 GB considering that its only patch its big difference)
I bought new graphic cardR9 270 upgrade fromGT9600 (6years old) (roughly 8x score in benchmarks).
I get no FPS difference in game. Processor runs on 30%. Graphic card runs on 30% and my fps drops sub 10 very often.
Can play on max/min details with no difference in FPS.
Optimisation of this game is horrible
spend days trying to solve it but got nothing, together with countless ppl on forums
Well not to derail this thread, but the reason that I suggested more ram is because the computer isn't just running D3, it's also running the OS as well as any other background programs. The OS it'self can take 1-2 gigs, if not more, which means bottle necking can be a problem with his setup.
The only thing that helped (but greatly), was installing the game on a 6GB/s SSD.
It's like night and day. It doesn't increase your FPS, but it removes the loading lag when entering a new zone/enemy/effects entirely.
Oh man ever since I got my SSD last year, I haven't looked back. Having a 15 second startup time from dead on your computer, and split second loading times is ridiculous.
Anyone thinking of picking up a Gsync monitor once those become available? I realize D3 isn't like CoD, but from everything I've read it makes everything so buttery smooth that it's just like an SSD; You'll question how you were able to function without it lol.
Gsync will only be useful if you're afraid of ghosting and reducing FPS with Vsync. For now Vsync is working fine and TBH 120hz isn't all that amazing either. Some items get a "soap-opera" effect and the only real games with a significant benefit are FPS games. In an RTS like Sc2 or in a LoL game you don't need to pick up certain parts of your fast moving screen when moving cross map with your camera, the game does it for you with alerts. In DIablo it's even less useful considering you're camera is in a fixed state and your movement speed barely gets fast enough to motion blur and ghost the surroundings. I'll stick with my preferred panels based off black levels and color accuracy thank you very much. VA or IPS only, no more TN for me. And just one SSD? What are you guys behind the times? Three's a minimum!! I want 1TB SSDS in Raid 10 so I can boot in less than 5 and back it all up at the same time, too expensive right now though so I just run my three normally.
Back on topic slightly. Bleu is correct gurg0. The OS and any other background task his computer preforms eats at his allowance. Unless he feels like closing out every other program besides Diablo 3 He might need a slightly bigger buffer. I know right now I'm using 2.6 w/out any game or major tasks that I run. So I'm closing in on 4; and remember you never want to get too close to your overall buffer, things start to lag up even if you're using 3.6/4 GB of your RAM. Always give yourself some extra Headroom or you will see significant slowdowns even without maxing your RAM out. Thus why I have 16GB in my desktop. There's 0 way I'll ever hit my cap unless I Photoshop, and I stream my gaming sometimes so I'm definitely using a fair bit of it.
gurg0, to your problem did you uninstall the Nvidia driver? If not do so, I had a friend switch from Nvidia to AMD and he had issues cause we didn't uninstall the old driver. Another thing is check your settings and remember not to force AA or AF onto the game it significantly reduces performance. Also note the card you previously had was a DX 10 card the card you are using now is a DX11.2 Both of them are past Dx9 which is what Diablo 3 is, meaning that if you max the game with the old card and played perfectly fine, you'll see no discernible difference with the newer card. This because The old card was already better than normal Dx9 standard card and the newer cards won't do much to up performance in any Dx9 categories they'll only possibly gain a few frames.
Second check for Vsync. If you have it enabled, it caps your frames at whatever the refresh rate of your monitor is at. If you run a 60Hz monitor and you run Vsync it forces the game to play at 60FPS. Even if you're old card was producing 300FPS it would only output 60, if you're new card does 750FPS and you still have Vsync well you're still only going to see 60.
Next up is make sure your foreground and background FPS sliders are at 200. For some reason this game came with a FPS limiter so you could force the game to display less foreground FPS or less background FPS to enjoy your preference of what you want to be better displayed. But at standard settings it has your foreground limited to 60 i think and the background to like 100 or some stupid shit like that. This means the games settings are locking your frames at a certain rate which could be why you see no difference. In the end though you SHOULD play with Vsync. It makes tearing a non-issue and with your current GPU you won't even notice a hit. PLaying without Vsync will actually make your game loos worse as it will cause tearing in the image. If you don't know what image tearing is look it up, or play without Vsync on a good GPU you'll notice part of your screen (usually the bottom half) has a different frame then the other half. If you play on a normal TN monitor you can only see 60 Frames every second anyway unless you have a 120Hz or one of the 144Hz monitors. SO if you play on the 60Hz monitor all those extra frames actually fuck you over if you don't use Vsync.
Really? I get 0 FPS drops with a AMD 6950 that has been playing games at max with power draw at +20% and bumped core and memory speeds and fan speeds at ~50% for more than two years now and I see 0 fps drops in Diablo 3 at any point. Hell I run Sc2 on Ultimate settings in 3v3's with max army value for all 6 players and see minimal fps dropping.and the fps drops only occur mid battle and even then its only maybe 10 fps... Seems odd that a 7800ti and an R9 270 would just get bad framerates... Maybe you guys got defective boards? I mean There really should be 0 reason for framerate issues with cards like you have.
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^You must be an outliner then because everyone I've spoken to or watch stream see's there FPS drops at certain points. I get around 230-250fps in town but if there's a lot of stuff going on during battle my fps goes down to the lower 100s.
AKA you should play with Vsync anyway. As I've said before If you're able to hit 100FPS in a fight and you have a 60Hz monitor, which is what most people have, then Vsync is the best way to play. Sure it reduces framerate somewhat but If you can play without ever dipping below 60 the advantages outweigh the extra power needed. So you get 200-250 FPS in town but you only see 60 and if you see +60 then you're getting tearing which looks horrendous and is worse than being locked at 60FPS and have some more taxation on your GPU. And before all this if you hit +100 FPS constantly and +200 in town you will notice 0 difference. unless you lag spike during battle, or drop way below 60FPS. Because an eye can only discern 60 Frames in a second, some can better perceive 120 but once you pass through that 120 it's almost indiscernible anyway so a "technical" FPS drop of ~ 100 FPS from 250-150 isn't really an issue. In fact you'd see less tearing and therefore prbably enjoy the lower FPS more.
The only reason not to play with Vsync is it forces you to cut frames or its too taxing on your GPU, but lets face it 60FPS is enough and the cutting of frames means you had some to cut anyway. Even with a 120HZ monitor if you're getting 250 you'd see tearing a lot which is awful, vsync would lock you at 120 and allow dips, but you'd never see Tearing and you'd be able to see the image as intended.
This all become obsolete with the advent G-sync, and OLED's we won't need to worry about Vsync and tearing anymore but till its widespread and perfected expect to be unimpressed.
Possibly there is just bad optimization for newer AMD cards. Remember R9's have a new architecture too so it could be taking them a bit to figure out a better way to optimize for the newer gen cards. We could see something similar with the next Nvidia update too.
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Please don't necro threads. If you want to make a new thread and discuss any issues, you're fine to do so, but this 3 year old discussion contains lots of irrelevant details and outdated stuff (plus it quotes people who aren't present anymore).
I can currently only run diablo and starcraft on medium settings on my laptop and still get some lag, here is my system info:
Graphics: ATI mobility Radeon HD 4650
Windows 7 64-bit
Intel Core Duo CPU T9600 @ 2.8GHz
4GB RAM
What would be the cheapest/best way to upgrade so I can run RoS on high settings??
Cheers
Your ram is slightly low, I'd recommend at least 6 but preferably 8 ( of DDR3 ). Windows 7 is fine, and while your processor is dated, if it's between that and a new graphics card, I'd get a new card.
Personally, and I realize this probably won't help you, but I'd invest in a desktop. Laptops that can run games at max, even D3, are pretty spendy, and it's also easier to upgrade a desktop. But don't go and buy a pre made one, buy the parts yourself from either Tigerdirect.com or Newegg.com. It's cheaper, you get exactly what you want, AND it's super easy to put together =D
If your laptop is that old it may have a Mini-PCIE port in which case there are some cards that link to an external box that will house a desktop GPU that you can then use to view from a monitor, but they are pricey and shoddy at best.Thisis one such tool, but this requires a few things
A- a mini PCIE port
B- That adapter
C- A desktop GPU
D- a Monitor to output to
You're best bet if you can is buy a desktop or a better laptop. Either or should suffice. The desktop is the best option considering you can make it cheap and upgrade later, mix and match and really make it your own. And if you're overcome by the "building your own PC" thing don't worry shoot me a PM if you'd be into it as I've done it a few times before as some others on her have as well. It really isn't difficult It's like building Lego sort of.
EDIT FOR GRAMMAR
Anyone thinking of picking up a Gsync monitor once those become available? I realize D3 isn't like CoD, but from everything I've read it makes everything so buttery smooth that it's just like an SSD; You'll question how you were able to function without it lol.
Back on topic slightly. Bleu is correct gurg0. The OS and any other background task his computer preforms eats at his allowance. Unless he feels like closing out every other program besides Diablo 3 He might need a slightly bigger buffer. I know right now I'm using 2.6 w/out any game or major tasks that I run. So I'm closing in on 4; and remember you never want to get too close to your overall buffer, things start to lag up even if you're using 3.6/4 GB of your RAM. Always give yourself some extra Headroom or you will see significant slowdowns even without maxing your RAM out. Thus why I have 16GB in my desktop. There's 0 way I'll ever hit my cap unless I Photoshop, and I stream my gaming sometimes so I'm definitely using a fair bit of it.
gurg0, to your problem did you uninstall the Nvidia driver? If not do so, I had a friend switch from Nvidia to AMD and he had issues cause we didn't uninstall the old driver. Another thing is check your settings and remember not to force AA or AF onto the game it significantly reduces performance. Also note the card you previously had was a DX 10 card the card you are using now is a DX11.2 Both of them are past Dx9 which is what Diablo 3 is, meaning that if you max the game with the old card and played perfectly fine, you'll see no discernible difference with the newer card. This because The old card was already better than normal Dx9 standard card and the newer cards won't do much to up performance in any Dx9 categories they'll only possibly gain a few frames.
Second check for Vsync. If you have it enabled, it caps your frames at whatever the refresh rate of your monitor is at. If you run a 60Hz monitor and you run Vsync it forces the game to play at 60FPS. Even if you're old card was producing 300FPS it would only output 60, if you're new card does 750FPS and you still have Vsync well you're still only going to see 60.
Next up is make sure your foreground and background FPS sliders are at 200. For some reason this game came with a FPS limiter so you could force the game to display less foreground FPS or less background FPS to enjoy your preference of what you want to be better displayed. But at standard settings it has your foreground limited to 60 i think and the background to like 100 or some stupid shit like that. This means the games settings are locking your frames at a certain rate which could be why you see no difference.
In the end though you SHOULD play with Vsync. It makes tearing a non-issue and with your current GPU you won't even notice a hit. PLaying without Vsync will actually make your game loos worse as it will cause tearing in the image. If you don't know what image tearing is look it up, or play without Vsync on a good GPU you'll notice part of your screen (usually the bottom half) has a different frame then the other half. If you play on a normal TN monitor you can only see 60 Frames every second anyway unless you have a 120Hz or one of the 144Hz monitors. SO if you play on the 60Hz monitor all those extra frames actually fuck you over if you don't use Vsync.
The only reason not to play with Vsync is it forces you to cut frames or its too taxing on your GPU, but lets face it 60FPS is enough and the cutting of frames means you had some to cut anyway. Even with a 120HZ monitor if you're getting 250 you'd see tearing a lot which is awful, vsync would lock you at 120 and allow dips, but you'd never see Tearing and you'd be able to see the image as intended.
This all become obsolete with the advent G-sync, and OLED's we won't need to worry about Vsync and tearing anymore but till its widespread and perfected expect to be unimpressed.
Please don't necro threads. If you want to make a new thread and discuss any issues, you're fine to do so, but this 3 year old discussion contains lots of irrelevant details and outdated stuff (plus it quotes people who aren't present anymore).
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