Seems like everyone are using determination or unity for additional damage buff while playing U6 build.
But I was wondering if someone have done some testing with mythic rhythm (Every third hit from a Spirit Generator increases the damage of your next damaging Spirit Spender by 40%).
Will this bonus only apply to seven sided strike or will it apply to the additional EP aswell?
well, will the dmg buff apply to the EP thats automatically applied from the 2pc ulianas or do i have to manually cast the EP skill?
And would the damage be applied to the Gundo-EP's?
stuff is about to get really technical here, but thats what fun about this game ye
it works with SSS, but not the EP's (so its pretty bad) . Everything is about the EPs on Ulianas thats why you roll Ep damage on boots and helm and not sss damage on shoulders.
it works with SSS, but not the EP's (so its pretty bad) . Everything is about the EPs on Ulianas thats why you roll Ep damage on boots and helm and not sss damage on shoulders.
any source on that? because the hellfire amulett that has more overall damage with unity buff deals 900 million crits, while the mythic rythm turns all eps into 1,2 and 1,3 billion crits...
so id call your comment bogus sorry.
Strictly speaking about Uliana 6 pc SSS build. The thing here is an interesting one, had to ponder on that myself before I found the answer.
The thing about mythic rhythm is that it increases the damage of your next spirit spender, in which case this spender is the Seven Sided Strike. EP applied by your generator 3rd hit thanks to Uliana 2 pc does not count as a spender.
But a great majority of your damage does not come from the SSS, it comes from the exploding palm being detonated (and if you have the madstone, also applied) by the SSS, thanks to uliana 6 pc. Seven sided strike damage forms a tiny percent of your overall damage. This is also the reason why you don't see top monks having %seven sided strike damage on their chest etc. So thats why mythic rhythm is not a very useful passive.
My comment is not bogus, maybe for you because you dont undestand how the mechanics work yet. Ep is doubled by fist of az, then multiplied by ep% and cold%. Realistically, ep does multitudes more damage, even against single target.
it works with SSS, but not the EP's (so its pretty bad) . Everything is about the EPs on Ulianas thats why you roll Ep damage on boots and helm and not sss damage on shoulders.
any source on that? because the hellfire amulett that has more overall damage with unity buff deals 900 million crits, while the mythic rythm turns all eps into 1,2 and 1,3 billion crits...
so id call your comment bogus sorry.
+ control tests from Davloc
Some random Uliana, SSS, EP mechanics testing. I don't have access to a Lion's Claw so no confirmation for that >_<
Control Test#2 = U6 with Gungdo, without FOA
SSS Crit = 2617 x 3.43 x 56.77 x 1.29 = 657,364.8
EP Crit = 2617 x 3.43 x 27.7 x 1.14 = 283,453.9 Conclusion
SSS & EP with U6 does correct damage (7x7)
U6 EP explosions hit the target it is applied to.
Control Test#3 = U6 with Gungdo with FOA
SSS Crit = 2617 x 3.43 x 56.77 x 1.29 = 657,364.8
EP Crit = 2617 x 3.43 x 27.7 x 1.14 = 283,453.9 x 2 = 566,907.8 Conclusion
FOA works with EP from U6.
Control Test#4 = DW with shown weapons
Alternating 107,853 & 11,631 damage Conclusion
SSS alternates weapons.
Control Test#5 = U6 with Madstone
SSS Damage = 144,470
EP Damage = 62,295
Control Test#6 = U6 with Madstone with MR Buff
SSS Damage = 144,470*1.4 = 202,258
EP Damage = 62,295*1.4 = 87,213 Conclusion
Mythic Rhythm does work on ALL hits from SSS, but does not affect the EP applied.
Summary
SSS alternates weapons when DW.
EP's applied by Madstone are detonated immediately.
EP's detonated with Gungdo equipped also hit the EP target (and reapplies EP)
MR works with all SSS hits, but not with EP applied by SSS
FOA works with U6 even if monster doesn't "die". http://us.battle.net/d3/en/forum/topic/16527322731?page=4#67
In conclusion Mythic Rhythm does work on ALL hits from SSS, BUT DOES NOT AFFECT THE EP APPLIED!
it works with SSS, but not the EP's (so its pretty bad) . Everything is about the EPs on Ulianas thats why you roll Ep damage on boots and helm and not sss damage on shoulders.
It does work, you need to unequip madstone from the cube, proc the mythic rythm, apply EP manually, then cast SSS.
Using madstone will override your buffed EP with a new one while Gundo's keeps the buffed EP alive.
Seems like everyone are using determination or unity for additional damage buff while playing U6 build.
But I was wondering if someone have done some testing with mythic rhythm (Every third hit from a Spirit Generator increases the damage of your next damaging Spirit Spender by 40%).
Will this bonus only apply to seven sided strike or will it apply to the additional EP aswell?
well, will the dmg buff apply to the EP thats automatically applied from the 2pc ulianas or do i have to manually cast the EP skill?
And would the damage be applied to the Gundo-EP's?
stuff is about to get really technical here, but thats what fun about this game ye
it works with SSS, but not the EP's (so its pretty bad) . Everything is about the EPs on Ulianas thats why you roll Ep damage on boots and helm and not sss damage on shoulders.
Strictly speaking about Uliana 6 pc SSS build. The thing here is an interesting one, had to ponder on that myself before I found the answer.
The thing about mythic rhythm is that it increases the damage of your next spirit spender, in which case this spender is the Seven Sided Strike. EP applied by your generator 3rd hit thanks to Uliana 2 pc does not count as a spender.
But a great majority of your damage does not come from the SSS, it comes from the exploding palm being detonated (and if you have the madstone, also applied) by the SSS, thanks to uliana 6 pc. Seven sided strike damage forms a tiny percent of your overall damage. This is also the reason why you don't see top monks having %seven sided strike damage on their chest etc. So thats why mythic rhythm is not a very useful passive.
My comment is not bogus, maybe for you because you dont undestand how the mechanics work yet. Ep is doubled by fist of az, then multiplied by ep% and cold%. Realistically, ep does multitudes more damage, even against single target.
+ control tests from Davloc
Some random Uliana, SSS, EP mechanics testing. I don't have access to a Lion's Claw so no confirmation for that >_<
Screenshot of Testing = http://i.imgur.com/NYH4XGG.jpg
Control Test #s
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2--3
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-5-6-
Control Test#1 = Basic Attack
Basic Attack Damage = 2617 = 100% wd
Control Test#2 = U6 with Gungdo, without FOA
SSS Crit = 2617 x 3.43 x 56.77 x 1.29 = 657,364.8
EP Crit = 2617 x 3.43 x 27.7 x 1.14 = 283,453.9
Conclusion
SSS & EP with U6 does correct damage (7x7)
U6 EP explosions hit the target it is applied to.
Control Test#3 = U6 with Gungdo with FOA
SSS Crit = 2617 x 3.43 x 56.77 x 1.29 = 657,364.8
EP Crit = 2617 x 3.43 x 27.7 x 1.14 = 283,453.9 x 2 = 566,907.8
Conclusion
FOA works with EP from U6.
Control Test#4 = DW with shown weapons
Alternating 107,853 & 11,631 damage
Conclusion
SSS alternates weapons.
Control Test#5 = U6 with Madstone
SSS Damage = 144,470
EP Damage = 62,295
Control Test#6 = U6 with Madstone with MR Buff
SSS Damage = 144,470*1.4 = 202,258
EP Damage = 62,295*1.4 = 87,213
Conclusion
Mythic Rhythm does work on ALL hits from SSS, but does not affect the EP applied.
Summary
SSS alternates weapons when DW.
EP's applied by Madstone are detonated immediately.
EP's detonated with Gungdo equipped also hit the EP target (and reapplies EP)
MR works with all SSS hits, but not with EP applied by SSS
FOA works with U6 even if monster doesn't "die".
http://us.battle.net/d3/en/forum/topic/16527322731?page=4#67
In conclusion Mythic Rhythm does work on ALL hits from SSS, BUT DOES NOT AFFECT THE EP APPLIED!
It does work, you need to unequip madstone from the cube, proc the mythic rythm, apply EP manually, then cast SSS.
Using madstone will override your buffed EP with a new one while Gundo's keeps the buffed EP alive.