Hey all. Is it worthwhile gambling bloodshards for an Ancient Furnace or should I rely solely on traditional farming? Spending thousands of shards regularly with no success so just thought I'd pose the question rather than continue aimlessly. Thanks!
You'll spend an average of 700k to 1m blood shards before seeing an ancient Furnace (source). I think that should answer your question. With that amount of blood shards you can get absolutely perfect gear on every slot, so imho gambling weapons or jewelry is a waste.
Well, let's assume you are trying to find it on a wizard. There are I think 18 two handed weapons in the game that you can find on a wizard. The Furnace is one of them but drops 4x less (they buffed it from 10x) than the other ones. The chance of getting it when finding a legendary two-handed weapon is ~1.45%. After spending 750 shards you will have on average one legendary two-handed weapon. This means that on average you will have to spend 51.700 shards to find a furnace and 517.000 to find an ancient one (just ancient, doesn't really mean it has to be good). With a fast rate of farming (let's say 15 rifts per hour, 2 of them have shard goblins), you earn ~2000 shards every hour, so on average you will find an ancient furnace through gambling if you spend 258.5 hours farming T6 nephalem rifts non-stop. It's not an extremely high number, but I think after 11 days of rifting I would go nuts.
its not advised to gamble on weapons as far as i know and read around.
Well. It kinda depends tho.
1: The only thing you need to get a build going like Dagger of darts or something like that. When you have all the other pieces.
2: When you cant get much more out of gambling. Which is never really gonna happen for 90%+ of the players.
Then you gamble for weapons. If not. Not worth it.
On a side note. I was farming bloodshards for my barb on my monk. I got a blood thief before the RG so i had to spend some shards before the rift guardian to get them all with me.
I went out. Gambled for 2 weapons. One legendary axe. One ancient Furnace with rather decent roll. 4.6k top dmg. 4200 ish dps. I have no more luck top spend in this game. So i should really just quit
its not advised to gamble on weapons as far as i know and read around.
Well. It kinda depends tho.
1: The only thing you need to get a build going like Dagger of darts or something like that. When you have all the other pieces.
2: When you cant get much more out of gambling. Which is never really gonna happen for 90%+ of the players.
Then you gamble for weapons. If not. Not worth it.
On a side note. I was farming bloodshards for my barb on my monk. I got a blood thief before the RG so i had to spend some shards before the rift guardian to get them all with me.
I went out. Gambled for 2 weapons. One legendary axe. One ancient Furnace with rather decent roll. 4.6k top dmg. 4200 ish dps. I have no more luck top spend in this game. So i should really just quit
.... well as u said u just hit ur jackpot!!!
i on the other hand spent something like 4-5k shards just to get my Frydehr's Wrath (and its a shitty one too)
Hey all. Is it worthwhile gambling bloodshards for an Ancient Furnace or should I rely solely on traditional farming? Spending thousands of shards regularly with no success so just thought I'd pose the question rather than continue aimlessly. Thanks!
"no success", RNG is RNG. 75 shards could be enough for a furnace, even an ancient one. This thread is stupid.
75 Shards could be enough, but it is very unlikely.
Even though RNG is RNG, there are chances for each event to happen. And based on this chance you can tell, if it is worth it for you to take it or place your bets on something with a much higher chance.
Hey all. Is it worthwhile gambling bloodshards for an Ancient Furnace or should I rely solely on traditional farming? Spending thousands of shards regularly with no success so just thought I'd pose the question rather than continue aimlessly. Thanks!
"no success", RNG is RNG. 75 shards could be enough for a furnace, even an ancient one. This thread is stupid.
Was just curious what would be more worthwhile focusing on when gambling, based on others opinions. I wasn't asking when I would get a Furnace...
Wow, ShadyW, you are a really rude person. Of course noone can tell him when he's going to find one, they can only tell him the probability of finding it after spending x amount of shards, but everyone knows that so you add absolutely nothing to the thread. As it's already been stated, OP, the chance of getting an ancient furnace is really low. Is it worthwile? You decide where the threshold of 'worthwileness' is, certainly if it's the only item you need in the entire game there is no better way of spending shards,
Hey all. Is it worthwhile gambling bloodshards for an Ancient Furnace or should I rely solely on traditional farming? Spending thousands of shards regularly with no success so just thought I'd pose the question rather than continue aimlessly. Thanks!
"no success", RNG is RNG. 75 shards could be enough for a furnace, even an ancient one. This thread is stupid.
Was just curious what would be more worthwhile focusing on when gambling, based on others opinions. I wasn't asking when I would get a Furnace...
Thanks for your stupid response though.
Oh, hi, thanks again for your stupid post.
Yes exactly, how can ANYONE answer if its worthwhile when its pure RNG? Do you understand what that means?
Do you need anything else besides a furnace? gamble that perhaps then. No one, NO ONE can answer WHEN you get it (This is exactly the same as if, since RNG is involved, so dont get f*cking smart, son).
Hey all. Is it worthwhile gambling bloodshards for an Ancient Furnace or should I rely solely on traditional farming? Spending thousands of shards regularly with no success so just thought I'd pose the question rather than continue aimlessly. Thanks!
The chance is microscopic, But its the same with farming, no bigger chance. So if you want your Furnace, go for it. Farm for it, and spend your bloodshards. GL dude. You might get lucky on your nest gamble
Hey all. Is it worthwhile gambling bloodshards for an Ancient Furnace or should I rely solely on traditional farming? Spending thousands of shards regularly with no success so just thought I'd pose the question rather than continue aimlessly. Thanks!
"no success", RNG is RNG. 75 shards could be enough for a furnace, even an ancient one. This thread is stupid.
Was just curious what would be more worthwhile focusing on when gambling, based on others opinions. I wasn't asking when I would get a Furnace...
Thanks for your stupid response though.
Oh, hi, thanks again for your stupid post.
Yes exactly, how can ANYONE answer if its worthwhile when its pure RNG? Do you understand what that means?
Do you need anything else besides a furnace? gamble that perhaps then. No one, NO ONE can answer WHEN you get it (This is exactly the same as if, since RNG is involved, so dont get f*cking smart, son).
I wish there was a button to dislike a post
Hahahahaha, you actually made my day You sir, are a gentleman and a scholar.
Hey all. Is it worthwhile gambling bloodshards for an Ancient Furnace or should I rely solely on traditional farming? Spending thousands of shards regularly with no success so just thought I'd pose the question rather than continue aimlessly. Thanks!
The chance is microscopic, But its the same with farming, no bigger chance. So if you want your Furnace, go for it. Farm for it, and spend your bloodshards. GL dude. You might get lucky on your nest gamble
Thanks man
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Hey all. Is it worthwhile gambling bloodshards for an Ancient Furnace or should I rely solely on traditional farming? Spending thousands of shards regularly with no success so just thought I'd pose the question rather than continue aimlessly. Thanks!
its not advised to gamble on weapons as far as i know and read around.
You'll spend an average of 700k to 1m blood shards before seeing an ancient Furnace (source). I think that should answer your question. With that amount of blood shards you can get absolutely perfect gear on every slot, so imho gambling weapons or jewelry is a waste.
Well, let's assume you are trying to find it on a wizard. There are I think 18 two handed weapons in the game that you can find on a wizard. The Furnace is one of them but drops 4x less (they buffed it from 10x) than the other ones. The chance of getting it when finding a legendary two-handed weapon is ~1.45%. After spending 750 shards you will have on average one legendary two-handed weapon. This means that on average you will have to spend 51.700 shards to find a furnace and 517.000 to find an ancient one (just ancient, doesn't really mean it has to be good). With a fast rate of farming (let's say 15 rifts per hour, 2 of them have shard goblins), you earn ~2000 shards every hour, so on average you will find an ancient furnace through gambling if you spend 258.5 hours farming T6 nephalem rifts non-stop. It's not an extremely high number, but I think after 11 days of rifting I would go nuts.
Well. It kinda depends tho.
1: The only thing you need to get a build going like Dagger of darts or something like that. When you have all the other pieces.
2: When you cant get much more out of gambling. Which is never really gonna happen for 90%+ of the players.
Then you gamble for weapons. If not. Not worth it.
On a side note. I was farming bloodshards for my barb on my monk. I got a blood thief before the RG so i had to spend some shards before the rift guardian to get them all with me.
I went out. Gambled for 2 weapons. One legendary axe. One ancient Furnace with rather decent roll. 4.6k top dmg. 4200 ish dps. I have no more luck top spend in this game. So i should really just quit
Thanks for the guidance! I'll gamble for BIS gear all round before worrying about the Ancient Furnace that so badly wants to be found...by me
Oh, right, completely forgot about staves. That's gonna be much more than 520k then.
.... well as u said u just hit ur jackpot!!!
i on the other hand spent something like 4-5k shards just to get my Frydehr's Wrath (and its a shitty one too)
75 Shards could be enough, but it is very unlikely.
Even though RNG is RNG, there are chances for each event to happen. And based on this chance you can tell, if it is worth it for you to take it or place your bets on something with a much higher chance.
Alrighty
Was just curious what would be more worthwhile focusing on when gambling, based on others opinions. I wasn't asking when I would get a Furnace...
Thanks for your stupid response though.
Wow, ShadyW, you are a really rude person. Of course noone can tell him when he's going to find one, they can only tell him the probability of finding it after spending x amount of shards, but everyone knows that so you add absolutely nothing to the thread. As it's already been stated, OP, the chance of getting an ancient furnace is really low. Is it worthwile? You decide where the threshold of 'worthwileness' is, certainly if it's the only item you need in the entire game there is no better way of spending shards,
Simple rule: When you have the armor you want then the higher price of weapons and jewelry are where you should spend your shards.
I wish there was a button to dislike a post
The chance is microscopic, But its the same with farming, no bigger chance. So if you want your Furnace, go for it. Farm for it, and spend your bloodshards. GL dude. You might get lucky on your nest gamble
Hahahahaha, you actually made my day You sir, are a gentleman and a scholar.
Thanks man