I wanted to start this thread off with an apology, I believe that this much is owed to the Diablo III community. As for why I am apologizing you will find out just below. Whether or not this apology can be accepted because of the nature of my hidden identity does not concern me, what does concern me is trying to clean up what little of the mess that I have helped create that I can.
So before I go any further, let me just say that If I could do it all over again I would take back my decisions and prevent this mess from ever happening. However the real world does not have a backspace, there is not Undo button, we cannot just "rollback" our lives and pretend what we chose to do never happened. For this decision I made I apologize, I am deeply deeply sorry, or else I obviously would not make a thread like the one that follows.
Let me first start off by saying Blizzard, although they screwed up, is doing a very good job of cleaning up the mess that both they and others (like myself) created. Nothing they are doing is out of greed, for those of you that believe this is they case you will soon understand that you are mistaken and that Blizzard only wants to make right what has happened and they have chosen the more difficult road to do so, but one which keeps the majority of people happy and inflicts the least amount of injury on the innocent.
**Now for what everyone came here to read, the explanation of the events, and the reason I made the terrible choice I did for which the Diablo III community will HATE me forever
When servers came up, I was one of the first few people online probably within the first 30 seconds. I have a lot of gold in the realm of 50-100 billion, how much I have does not matter, it is more than most. When I came online I went to list my gold on the Auction house since I try and sell a few billion each week for some extra spending money, as everyone knows it is not easy to get jobs, and money is tight for most people. For those of you that don't want to get the calculator out, my account is worth anywhere from $9000-$18000 on the RMAH, but as you all know there is a lot of competition to sell on the RMAH at those prices. Regardless I have consistently made around ~$300 dollars per week for months now and the extra cash has helped out tremendously.
I logged on and started putting my gold up for sale just like usual, when I looked up and realized that the gold price had changed. What I noticed today (although it took a few seconds) was that the price floor had been dropped from $0.25 per million to $.025 per 10 million. I quickly freaked out thinking "I don't want to sell my gold for this cheap oh crap" and quickly canceled all of my auctions. You will understand my surprise when, within 1 minute of the realms being up, my gold had gone from in the ballpark of around 50-100 billion, to over 200 billion, JUST by cancelling my auctions.
At first I was stunned and speechless, I thought "should I tell Blizzard they just screwed up BIG TIME" (the answer is always yes, always, if you find something like this you will not benefit from it and save everyone a bunch of grief). My second thought was the selfish one, "all of my gold is now utterly worthless, all that time, all that work, all that money reduced by ten fold" (blah blah sob story, what a douche). in that split second I made the choice to put the gold back up for sale, this is when I realized, this "exploit" although if you took advantage of it was an exploit, really was UNAVOIDABLE for anyone with over 6 billion gold trying to sell on the RMAH that day. The reason why is as follows.
THE DUPE
For those of you who do not know, the dupe happened like this. If you had over a certain amount of gold (I will use 10b for example) The auction house would take a fraction of what you tried to sell. Lets say I had 10B I wanted to sell that day, so I put in the numbers "1000" in the number to sell slot on the RMAH and clicked "create auction" ~1.4 billion gold would leave my stash and go up for sale on the RMAH at the amount and price of 10 billion gold ($250 if you do not know this). So at this point the gold has been duped! Even If I do not cancel it, the gold has been duped! There is no way to avoid the dupe, at least not that we know of yet. Talk about a catch 22 right? WRONG! I should have contacted blizzard immediately! This was one of, if not the biggest mistakes I have ever made in my entire life!
How stupid could I possibly have been to think that I might get away with something this obvious? I put up some gold for sale and logged off. I allowed the Chaos to continue because I was afraid the Free market economy with all of the botters, and hackers with their mountainous piles of gold would make gold selling for me no longer worth my time. All the "hard work" of getting to 50-100B gold was for a measly $900-$1800, still a large chunk of change but nothing compared to what it had been "worth" just a few days earlier.
For this decision, this terrible mistake, I am deeply sorry! To the Blizzard staff, and affiliates, for helping create a huge mess that you must now clean up. To the Diablo III community, which I love and felt a part of, I have helped to ruin the gaming experience for all of you and I cannot express my regret for allowing this to happen And, though I may be ridiculed, to myself for allowing greed to get the better of me.
RUMORS
Now let me crush some of these rumors that have been flying around these forums as well as Blizz's forums. Greed is NOT something Blizzard is letting drive them, though they will not say it I know for a fact Blizzard is refunding every penny of your $ spent on the RMAH if it had to do with the buying of gems, the buying of gold, and any other commodity whose price skyrocketed when this "exploit" went live. I am 100% certain that all RMAH gold transactions are being refunded as we speak because the dupe was not on the cancel but on the upload of gold to the server! This means anyone with over ~6b gold who created a RMAH gold transaction was a duper, and thus blizzard cannot have any of this gold stay sold else they have also participated in the dupe along with those of us that canceled our auctions.
Blizzard cares about how they handle this situation because they are taking the hard road to fix it, but one that will minimize the fallout, and minimize the number of "innocents" who didn't maliciously take advantage of the dupe by putting their gold up for sale and then canceling it from being victimized. If you don't agree with this that is your choice, your opinion. I am certain this thread will fill with opinions from the moment i hit "Post New Topic".
I am certain that the amount of Hate that will be posted in this thread will be astronomical, people want someone to be mad at, and they have a right to! I screwed up! BADLY! I made a decision, at a time when the opposite decision could have saved everyone loads of time and grief. For this I apologize, I cannot do any more than this. I choose to remain anonymous because I will be honest and say I can't man up and come out and say "ya it was me, and here is who I am" because I am not the only one who did this or is at fault.
What I can apologize for is not doing the right thing. : / Again if I am put in the same situation again I know I will make better choices. Diablo III deserves better than this! I love this game, and I had a hand in attempting to destroy it. My inaction has lead to what will most probably be a tough road ahead.
I know that I don't deserve forgiveness, but for what it is worth. Here you have it, this is what went down, this is how it was done.
The only way to avoid it would have been someone like me fessing up early on and preventing this mess we are in now
My Bad : /
Edit: Just to sort out some confusion, I am frankly embarrassed about my decision and I am hiding like a child behind this hidden identity. I Do not want my friends that I "played" with to know how much I failed them. I am a random Joe blow. A John Doe. not a streamer. And this post is not fabricated, everything is 100% sincere and true. Take it as you will
This was not a victim-less crime. Millions of players whom just wanted to enjoy what IMO was a fantastic patch and a huge step forward, has been terribly sullied by greed.
It saddens me that the OP could've been the one guy to help mitigate this problem from getting as bad as it did with a simple E-mail to Blizz.
What's even more sad is that there were hundreds (thousands?) of people just like him, that could've been that "one guy" to make a difference. Yet, nobody stepped up.
"OMG BLIZZ why did you let it go on so long".
Because nobody was that "one guy".
Credit to the OP for learning from his mistake, and moreover, apologizing for it to the people that count, the players. Thank you for that. However, I simply cannot imagine what you were thinking?
I could get rich too. I could rob a bank this afternoon if I so chose to. I could make more in a few minutes than I have in the last ten years. I may even get away with it.
However, I likely will not get away with it. I will likely loose all the money I thought I gained and I will be locked up for it. The same holds true here. People got caught and all the damage done was for naught.
The true madness to this is that the very action the exploiters were engaging in was going to cause their gold to be worthless. What was the point of all this? At least if I steal money from a bank IRL, that money is worth something if I do get away with it.
Hindsight is 20/20 is it? Sounds like these guys had blinders on and all they could see was "huge profit" and didn't realize they were only shooting themselves in the foot while also destroying the D3 economy for the community. Funny how karma works eh?
I don't think i can hate the guy for his confession, but this is just a picture of the mentality of players that will do anything to gain profit or advantages. I saw exploiters in every game, i cheated too in other games while i was young and got my ban. From then, i never touched a hack, because i learnt my lesson.
Now, i have my doubts one single guy could have made the difference in this case, there were thousands of dupers that day and one single mail could have warned Blizzard a bit earlier, but the damage was already done. In my romantic world, every one that had discovered the bug, should had sent an e-mail and stop. But this is an utopia.
I'm happy someone isn't blaming Blizzard for the bug (at least, not 100%), i can already see dupers screaming with their fists up the air: "OMG, Blizzard left a bug in the game! It's not our fault we abused it for greed and profit!!!!!! FUCK BLIZZARD!!!!!!111!!11!".
It's always stated that game breaking bugs are to be reported and it's not excusable to not do so and abuse it.
If you see a door open because the owner forgot it, you don't enter his house and rob him. Yeah, it's the owner's fault to have left the door open, but the police won't care: you are the robber.
I don't think the OP will get much sympathy, but i'm glad someone has a coscience and confessed his "crime".
Gj for saying you are sorry but i really think you should include your real name (even though im pretty sure i know who you are).
Anyway as a EU player i was not directly affected by this but i kept thinking to myself "They should have known better!"... The streamers i mean.
I dont want to mention names but when i see some dude rerolling on EU after he fucked everything up on US and got banned, laughing his ass off like nothing happened it kinda makes me angry.
I dont want to mention names but when i see some dude rerolling on EU after he fucked everything up on US and got banned, laughing his ass off like nothing happened it kinda makes me angry.
If you're talking about the same person I think you're talking Jam... Well actually they could be different. But a streamer that got banned and rolled EU, the face he made after it sunk in that all his accounts are banned and there will be no turning back, his world looked broken.
If you're talking about the same person I think you're talking Jam... Well actually they could be different. But a streamer that got banned and rolled EU, the face he made after it sunk in that all his accounts are banned and there will be no turning back, his world looked broken.
Oh well, i cannot wish any agony upon no one. But still, he should have known better.
I'm curious. Are you a streamer? I've just had two things to say directly to the D3 community and maybe this thread will be my opportunity. Also if you are a streamer, which I believe you to because of your anonymity, it's probably best if you reveal your identity, I believe people would respect you a lot more and accept your apology with greater sincerity. Anyways on to my points:
For some reason, I somewhat loathe the streaming community I guess you can call it. I don't directly intend to hate on streamers, I just find this whole fascination and fanboism surrounding streamers mind boggling. I can't imagine watching somebody farm Act 3 over and over again. Yet people seem to enjoy their certain streamers, which may be caused by frequent giveaways etc. I bring streaming up because I believe this idea caught fire via streams. That many streamers were showing people how to do it and making mockery of the situation. "LOL look how dumb Blizzard are". Then streamers got banned and there was an uproar. Streamers are nobody special, they are people who attempt to make a name for themselves within the gaming community and use advertising/other means to gain about the same money they would earn working a minimum wage retail job, if that. Yet when they are banned people jump on Blizzard and make claims like "this is their job!" "this is how they make their living!". No, that's a choice, and that bedroom they are streaming from probably belongs to their mother or uncle. They deserve a ban more than anybody for promoting exploitation. You'll see why I bring this up in my conclusion. Again, sorry for the streamer hate, it's not personal, and it's pointed toward the community and not the streamers themselves.
Secondly, this is NOT Blizzards mess. This is a community made mess. Why? In case you didn't know, maybe if you take your tinfoil hat off and think for a minute, Blizzard doesn't purposefully implement gold dupes. It is called a bug because it is an unintended problem. People took advantage of this bug and created the massive gold dupe. Having this mentality, which has existed for a year now of, "LOL this game is such a massive fuck up, look at this we can dupe gold in the AH, LOL LOL LOL". Immediately in chat channels in game and on forums people assumed there would be a roll back because it was Blizzards fault, and the time until Blizzard caught on was "LOL this game is such a fuck up, let's see how much gold I can dupe before the roll back LOLOLOL". Yes, ok, the bug is "Blizzards fault". The massive duping and assumption of no consequence is on the communities end.
I believe Blizzard took the most appropriate course of action by keeping the AH down to allow all auctions to expire. If you think about it, this may actually help the economy. Attempting to remove all the duped gold is likely one of the biggest pains in the ass ever and as OP said, kudos to Blizzard for doing that. A rollback would have caused 1000x more damage and tarnish on this game than this gold dupe did. The gold dupe will be a blip on the radar in a few months. I hope Blizzard keeps everyone who exploited this banned.
Hopefully the community learned their lesson. I seriously think this community is worse than WoW. I know it sounds weird, but Diablo III is real and everything is serious. The gold dupe did not exist to make a mockery of. Sorry for this post but I can barely comprehend this attitude that exists among the community toward each other and toward Blizzard. I'm in honest belief that 90% of this community was born after the original Diablo was released. There is so much of a lack of people thinking for themselves and the ability to form ones own opinion. I feel as if the players are mindless drones programmed to spew senseless hate.
I can't help feeling that the OP is basically a work of fiction. It's convenient to say that you can't reveal your identity for fear of reprisal, but seriously, what is there to be afraid of? People might make fun of you or say mean things? I don't buy it.
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...and if you disagree with me, you're probably <insert random ad hominem attack here>.
If you're talking about the same person I think you're talking Jam... Well actually they could be different. But a streamer that got banned and rolled EU, the face he made after it sunk in that all his accounts are banned and there will be no turning back, his world looked broken.
No pity for him what so ever. They should have ensured he couldn't even purchase the damn game again. Stupid trolls like that deserve what they get.
Hopefully the community learned their lesson. I seriously think this community is worse than WoW. I know it sounds weird, but Diablo III is real and everything is serious. The gold dupe did not exist to make a mockery of. Sorry for this post but I can barely comprehend this attitude that exists among the community toward each other and toward Blizzard.
I have to agree with this. I've encountered plenty of very helpful and friendly people in D3 community (especially here at diablofans), but for every one of them I meet/interact with, I read 10+ posts or messages from players just like the ones Serpenth is talking about; it's ridiculous.
Furthermore (and as other have mentioned), I think it's insane how myopic these dupers were: even if they had escaped from the ever-watchful eye of Blizzard unscathed, their exploitation of this bug caused, is causing, and very well may continue to cause major problems in the very economy over which they sought to take control.
Maybe (big maybe incoming) there will be a silver lining here. Maybe Blizzard will indeed be able to remove all the duped gold, and maybe they will even perma-ban the most egregious offenders, thereby (somewhat) resetting the AH economy and its pre-1.0.8 inflation. Maybe!
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i would choose my own religion and worship my own spirit, but if he ever preached to me i wouldn't want to hear it. i'd drop him, a forgotten god, languishing in shame; and then if i hit stormy seas, i'd have myself to blame.
Hopefully the community learned their lesson. I seriously think this community is worse than WoW. I know it sounds weird, but Diablo III is real and everything is serious. The gold dupe did not exist to make a mockery of. Sorry for this post but I can barely comprehend this attitude that exists among the community toward each other and toward Blizzard.
I have to agree with this. I've encountered plenty of very helpful and friendly people in D3 community (especially here at diablofans), but for every one of them I meet/interact with, I read 10+ posts or messages from players just like the ones Serpenth is talking about; it's ridiculous.
Furthermore (and as other have mentioned), I think it's insane how myopic these dupers were: even if they had escaped from the ever-watchful eye of Blizzard unscathed, their exploitation of this bug caused, is causing, and very well may continue to cause major problems in the very economy over which they sought to take control.
Maybe (big maybe incoming) there will be a silver lining here. Maybe Blizzard will indeed be able to remove all the duped gold, and maybe they will even perma-ban the most egregious offenders, thereby (somewhat) resetting the AH economy and its pre-1.0.8 inflation. Maybe!
That's what I don't get. That streaming retard ingo apparently loved to play the game but had no problems abusing the exploit to an extreme to totally ruin the economy. I can only hope that once he logged off the screen and he realized nobody has a reason to watch what he does that he wept into his pillow while screaming about losing all his accounts.
The funny thing is, people blame blizzard for this, but its the community who did it and took advantage of it and watched as the economy burnt to the ground. While the allure of doing the exploit appealed to me, I learned my lesson from playing WoW and doing exploits during end game raids. Blizzard takes exploits seriously (yes their response this time was very slow) they do get their revenge in the end.
I don't understand the point of this post. An anonymous apology is basically irrelevant and baseless without a face to go with it. Infact, I'd go so far as to say you're deliberately not apologising by doing it anonymously.
As for what you did to warrant this apology. We all know that exploiting is against the rules set by Blizzard. If you purposefully exploit, you're gonna get banned. We all know this, all of us, yet people did it anyway, and they wonder why their accounts don't work anymore.
You reap what you sow.
You wilfully exploited, and you've apologised with the face of a shop dummy. If you expect me to say anything other than 'get lost', you're mad.
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The only thing I hold blizzard accountable for is not shutting down the servers immediately to mitigate the damage and leave open the possibility of a rollback. Videos were posted fast this could have been a much smaller problem. Bugs happen.
Credit to the OP for learning from his mistake, and moreover, apologizing for it to the people that count, the players. Thank you for that. However, I simply cannot imagine what you were thinking?
I think he only did that cause he got caugth ;P
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So before I go any further, let me just say that If I could do it all over again I would take back my decisions and prevent this mess from ever happening. However the real world does not have a backspace, there is not Undo button, we cannot just "rollback" our lives and pretend what we chose to do never happened. For this decision I made I apologize, I am deeply deeply sorry, or else I obviously would not make a thread like the one that follows.
Let me first start off by saying Blizzard, although they screwed up, is doing a very good job of cleaning up the mess that both they and others (like myself) created. Nothing they are doing is out of greed, for those of you that believe this is they case you will soon understand that you are mistaken and that Blizzard only wants to make right what has happened and they have chosen the more difficult road to do so, but one which keeps the majority of people happy and inflicts the least amount of injury on the innocent.
**Now for what everyone came here to read, the explanation of the events, and the reason I made the terrible choice I did for which the Diablo III community will HATE me forever
When servers came up, I was one of the first few people online probably within the first 30 seconds. I have a lot of gold in the realm of 50-100 billion, how much I have does not matter, it is more than most. When I came online I went to list my gold on the Auction house since I try and sell a few billion each week for some extra spending money, as everyone knows it is not easy to get jobs, and money is tight for most people. For those of you that don't want to get the calculator out, my account is worth anywhere from $9000-$18000 on the RMAH, but as you all know there is a lot of competition to sell on the RMAH at those prices. Regardless I have consistently made around ~$300 dollars per week for months now and the extra cash has helped out tremendously.
I logged on and started putting my gold up for sale just like usual, when I looked up and realized that the gold price had changed. What I noticed today (although it took a few seconds) was that the price floor had been dropped from $0.25 per million to $.025 per 10 million. I quickly freaked out thinking "I don't want to sell my gold for this cheap oh crap" and quickly canceled all of my auctions. You will understand my surprise when, within 1 minute of the realms being up, my gold had gone from in the ballpark of around 50-100 billion, to over 200 billion, JUST by cancelling my auctions.
At first I was stunned and speechless, I thought "should I tell Blizzard they just screwed up BIG TIME" (the answer is always yes, always, if you find something like this you will not benefit from it and save everyone a bunch of grief). My second thought was the selfish one, "all of my gold is now utterly worthless, all that time, all that work, all that money reduced by ten fold" (blah blah sob story, what a douche). in that split second I made the choice to put the gold back up for sale, this is when I realized, this "exploit" although if you took advantage of it was an exploit, really was UNAVOIDABLE for anyone with over 6 billion gold trying to sell on the RMAH that day. The reason why is as follows.
THE DUPE
For those of you who do not know, the dupe happened like this. If you had over a certain amount of gold (I will use 10b for example) The auction house would take a fraction of what you tried to sell. Lets say I had 10B I wanted to sell that day, so I put in the numbers "1000" in the number to sell slot on the RMAH and clicked "create auction" ~1.4 billion gold would leave my stash and go up for sale on the RMAH at the amount and price of 10 billion gold ($250 if you do not know this). So at this point the gold has been duped! Even If I do not cancel it, the gold has been duped! There is no way to avoid the dupe, at least not that we know of yet. Talk about a catch 22 right? WRONG! I should have contacted blizzard immediately! This was one of, if not the biggest mistakes I have ever made in my entire life!
How stupid could I possibly have been to think that I might get away with something this obvious? I put up some gold for sale and logged off. I allowed the Chaos to continue because I was afraid the Free market economy with all of the botters, and hackers with their mountainous piles of gold would make gold selling for me no longer worth my time. All the "hard work" of getting to 50-100B gold was for a measly $900-$1800, still a large chunk of change but nothing compared to what it had been "worth" just a few days earlier.
For this decision, this terrible mistake, I am deeply sorry! To the Blizzard staff, and affiliates, for helping create a huge mess that you must now clean up. To the Diablo III community, which I love and felt a part of, I have helped to ruin the gaming experience for all of you and I cannot express my regret for allowing this to happen And, though I may be ridiculed, to myself for allowing greed to get the better of me.
RUMORS
Now let me crush some of these rumors that have been flying around these forums as well as Blizz's forums. Greed is NOT something Blizzard is letting drive them, though they will not say it I know for a fact Blizzard is refunding every penny of your $ spent on the RMAH if it had to do with the buying of gems, the buying of gold, and any other commodity whose price skyrocketed when this "exploit" went live. I am 100% certain that all RMAH gold transactions are being refunded as we speak because the dupe was not on the cancel but on the upload of gold to the server! This means anyone with over ~6b gold who created a RMAH gold transaction was a duper, and thus blizzard cannot have any of this gold stay sold else they have also participated in the dupe along with those of us that canceled our auctions.
Blizzard cares about how they handle this situation because they are taking the hard road to fix it, but one that will minimize the fallout, and minimize the number of "innocents" who didn't maliciously take advantage of the dupe by putting their gold up for sale and then canceling it from being victimized. If you don't agree with this that is your choice, your opinion. I am certain this thread will fill with opinions from the moment i hit "Post New Topic".
I am certain that the amount of Hate that will be posted in this thread will be astronomical, people want someone to be mad at, and they have a right to! I screwed up! BADLY! I made a decision, at a time when the opposite decision could have saved everyone loads of time and grief. For this I apologize, I cannot do any more than this. I choose to remain anonymous because I will be honest and say I can't man up and come out and say "ya it was me, and here is who I am" because I am not the only one who did this or is at fault.
What I can apologize for is not doing the right thing. : / Again if I am put in the same situation again I know I will make better choices. Diablo III deserves better than this! I love this game, and I had a hand in attempting to destroy it. My inaction has lead to what will most probably be a tough road ahead.
I know that I don't deserve forgiveness, but for what it is worth. Here you have it, this is what went down, this is how it was done.
The only way to avoid it would have been someone like me fessing up early on and preventing this mess we are in now
My Bad : /
Edit: Just to sort out some confusion, I am frankly embarrassed about my decision and I am hiding like a child behind this hidden identity. I Do not want my friends that I "played" with to know how much I failed them. I am a random Joe blow. A John Doe. not a streamer. And this post is not fabricated, everything is 100% sincere and true. Take it as you will
It saddens me that the OP could've been the one guy to help mitigate this problem from getting as bad as it did with a simple E-mail to Blizz.
What's even more sad is that there were hundreds (thousands?) of people just like him, that could've been that "one guy" to make a difference. Yet, nobody stepped up.
"OMG BLIZZ why did you let it go on so long".
Because nobody was that "one guy".
Credit to the OP for learning from his mistake, and moreover, apologizing for it to the people that count, the players. Thank you for that. However, I simply cannot imagine what you were thinking?
I could get rich too. I could rob a bank this afternoon if I so chose to. I could make more in a few minutes than I have in the last ten years. I may even get away with it.
However, I likely will not get away with it. I will likely loose all the money I thought I gained and I will be locked up for it. The same holds true here. People got caught and all the damage done was for naught.
The true madness to this is that the very action the exploiters were engaging in was going to cause their gold to be worthless. What was the point of all this? At least if I steal money from a bank IRL, that money is worth something if I do get away with it.
I just can't call it, man. Makes zero sense.
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Now, i have my doubts one single guy could have made the difference in this case, there were thousands of dupers that day and one single mail could have warned Blizzard a bit earlier, but the damage was already done. In my romantic world, every one that had discovered the bug, should had sent an e-mail and stop. But this is an utopia.
I'm happy someone isn't blaming Blizzard for the bug (at least, not 100%), i can already see dupers screaming with their fists up the air: "OMG, Blizzard left a bug in the game! It's not our fault we abused it for greed and profit!!!!!! FUCK BLIZZARD!!!!!!111!!11!".
It's always stated that game breaking bugs are to be reported and it's not excusable to not do so and abuse it.
If you see a door open because the owner forgot it, you don't enter his house and rob him. Yeah, it's the owner's fault to have left the door open, but the police won't care: you are the robber.
I don't think the OP will get much sympathy, but i'm glad someone has a coscience and confessed his "crime".
Anyway as a EU player i was not directly affected by this but i kept thinking to myself "They should have known better!"... The streamers i mean.
I dont want to mention names but when i see some dude rerolling on EU after he fucked everything up on US and got banned, laughing his ass off like nothing happened it kinda makes me angry.
Wow... now you made me sad
Ha. Bagstone.
Oh well, i cannot wish any agony upon no one. But still, he should have known better.
For some reason, I somewhat loathe the streaming community I guess you can call it. I don't directly intend to hate on streamers, I just find this whole fascination and fanboism surrounding streamers mind boggling. I can't imagine watching somebody farm Act 3 over and over again. Yet people seem to enjoy their certain streamers, which may be caused by frequent giveaways etc. I bring streaming up because I believe this idea caught fire via streams. That many streamers were showing people how to do it and making mockery of the situation. "LOL look how dumb Blizzard are". Then streamers got banned and there was an uproar. Streamers are nobody special, they are people who attempt to make a name for themselves within the gaming community and use advertising/other means to gain about the same money they would earn working a minimum wage retail job, if that. Yet when they are banned people jump on Blizzard and make claims like "this is their job!" "this is how they make their living!". No, that's a choice, and that bedroom they are streaming from probably belongs to their mother or uncle. They deserve a ban more than anybody for promoting exploitation. You'll see why I bring this up in my conclusion. Again, sorry for the streamer hate, it's not personal, and it's pointed toward the community and not the streamers themselves.
Secondly, this is NOT Blizzards mess. This is a community made mess. Why? In case you didn't know, maybe if you take your tinfoil hat off and think for a minute, Blizzard doesn't purposefully implement gold dupes. It is called a bug because it is an unintended problem. People took advantage of this bug and created the massive gold dupe. Having this mentality, which has existed for a year now of, "LOL this game is such a massive fuck up, look at this we can dupe gold in the AH, LOL LOL LOL". Immediately in chat channels in game and on forums people assumed there would be a roll back because it was Blizzards fault, and the time until Blizzard caught on was "LOL this game is such a fuck up, let's see how much gold I can dupe before the roll back LOLOLOL". Yes, ok, the bug is "Blizzards fault". The massive duping and assumption of no consequence is on the communities end.
I believe Blizzard took the most appropriate course of action by keeping the AH down to allow all auctions to expire. If you think about it, this may actually help the economy. Attempting to remove all the duped gold is likely one of the biggest pains in the ass ever and as OP said, kudos to Blizzard for doing that. A rollback would have caused 1000x more damage and tarnish on this game than this gold dupe did. The gold dupe will be a blip on the radar in a few months. I hope Blizzard keeps everyone who exploited this banned.
Hopefully the community learned their lesson. I seriously think this community is worse than WoW. I know it sounds weird, but Diablo III is real and everything is serious. The gold dupe did not exist to make a mockery of. Sorry for this post but I can barely comprehend this attitude that exists among the community toward each other and toward Blizzard. I'm in honest belief that 90% of this community was born after the original Diablo was released. There is so much of a lack of people thinking for themselves and the ability to form ones own opinion. I feel as if the players are mindless drones programmed to spew senseless hate.
No pity for him what so ever. They should have ensured he couldn't even purchase the damn game again. Stupid trolls like that deserve what they get.
I have to agree with this. I've encountered plenty of very helpful and friendly people in D3 community (especially here at diablofans), but for every one of them I meet/interact with, I read 10+ posts or messages from players just like the ones Serpenth is talking about; it's ridiculous.
Furthermore (and as other have mentioned), I think it's insane how myopic these dupers were: even if they had escaped from the ever-watchful eye of Blizzard unscathed, their exploitation of this bug caused, is causing, and very well may continue to cause major problems in the very economy over which they sought to take control.
Maybe (big maybe incoming) there will be a silver lining here. Maybe Blizzard will indeed be able to remove all the duped gold, and maybe they will even perma-ban the most egregious offenders, thereby (somewhat) resetting the AH economy and its pre-1.0.8 inflation. Maybe!
That's what I don't get. That streaming retard ingo apparently loved to play the game but had no problems abusing the exploit to an extreme to totally ruin the economy. I can only hope that once he logged off the screen and he realized nobody has a reason to watch what he does that he wept into his pillow while screaming about losing all his accounts.
The funny thing is, people blame blizzard for this, but its the community who did it and took advantage of it and watched as the economy burnt to the ground. While the allure of doing the exploit appealed to me, I learned my lesson from playing WoW and doing exploits during end game raids. Blizzard takes exploits seriously (yes their response this time was very slow) they do get their revenge in the end.
As for what you did to warrant this apology. We all know that exploiting is against the rules set by Blizzard. If you purposefully exploit, you're gonna get banned. We all know this, all of us, yet people did it anyway, and they wonder why their accounts don't work anymore.
You reap what you sow.
You wilfully exploited, and you've apologised with the face of a shop dummy. If you expect me to say anything other than 'get lost', you're mad.
And may the odds be ever in your favour.
Emmo#2406
I think he only did that cause he got caugth ;P
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