Can someone explain to me why so many people are claiming to "feel cheated" by Blizzard, due to the annual WoW pass?
Something about not having your WoW account active for free while playing Diablo 3...
But this can't me right... I mean... How monumentally stupid can these people be... You get 12 months of WoW, plus Diablo 3 for free, and Diablo 3 releasing later detracts absolutely nothing from that deal.
I... just don't understand the fuss, could someone explain to me why I should be outraged here? o.o
You shouldn't, I mean look at the people who are outraged; WoW players, who generally are a lot younger than the people waiting to play diablo. As far as i know you don't have to have your wow account active to download and play D3 if you bought the annual pass, and if you followed D3 at ALL you'd know it wasn't coming out right when the annual pass went up. IDK, kids man.
You shouldn't, I mean look at the people who are outraged; WoW players, who generally are a lot younger than the people waiting to play diablo. As far as i know you don't have to have your wow account active to download and play D3 if you bought the annual pass, and if you followed D3 at ALL you'd know it wasn't coming out right when the annual pass went up. IDK, kids man.
well i agree that the annual pass deal is a good thing and people who are QQing are retards or kids but i wouldnt say the majority of wow players are kids. if your definition of kid is <18 then no. i played wow for 3 years and most everyone i met was 20+. most of the time people were mid-late 20's or higher with wives n kids. at least in the 5-6 guilds i was in with over 4k people combined, not many kids.
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You shouldn't, I mean look at the people who are outraged; WoW players, who generally are a lot younger than the people waiting to play diablo. As far as i know you don't have to have your wow account active to download and play D3 if you bought the annual pass, and if you followed D3 at ALL you'd know it wasn't coming out right when the annual pass went up. IDK, kids man.
Quoted a whole lot of nonsense and misinformation.
People raging are fairly stupid I agree. I mean the deal was 12 months sub you get D3 free. There was no guarantee that you would get D3 in january with this deal. If people don't like WoW WHY THE FUCK did they get the deal in the first place.
The deal is good only if you play your 12 months or at least 7 of them.
The later D3 is released and the longer you play WOW the most value you get out of those 12 months you pay(ed). So really I don't get what they complain about.
Was the deal a good way/trick to incite you to keep you paying the monthly fee even if you didn't really felt like it ? YES. That was a HUGE marketing move by Blizzard. But this is not a rip off, you get what you payed for, if your ppsychology isnt strong enough for you to say "Hmmm no I won't play more than 2 or 3 months more of WoW so I don't get the deal" then it's their damn own fault to be weak minded.and they probably get f**** by these kind of deals in everyday life over and over.
I'm an annual pass owner. But I plan to cancel soon by calling Blizzard (Yes, this is possible) because I've simply grown tired of the MMO community and not WoW in particular. After participating in the SWTOR launch I've come to realize that the genre has just changed forever and isn't going back to what it was 5-6 years ago.
Instead of working for things and being patient MMO's are now give me give me I pay $15 a month blah blah.
So in short, annual pass owners want their Diablo 3 right now because they feel entitled.
I dont know why you would rage now about the annual pass. The annual pass was a rip-off from the beginning. Think about it you spend $180 for 1 year of WoW plus Diablo 3. If Diablo 3 comes out you are quite unlikely to spend anytime playing WoW. Thus if D3 comes out anytime within 8 months of buying the annual pass you have wasted money paying for a subscription for WoW. Plus with all of the new MMOs coming out (SWTOR & GW) you still have to pay for WoW. Wasted money, wasted time.
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Blizzard used to care about releasing Diablo III, then they all took an arrow in the knee...
I'm not in an uproar about the annual pass, but I regret agreeing to it. None of the perks benefit me anymore. I stopped playing WoW, so the Tyrael mount is useless to me, and the invite to MoP beta is worthless to me. I bought the CE, so I never really needed the pass in the first place, unless Blizzard would extend beta invites into D3 for those with the pass.
noone said the main reason they are upset.. First and formost they are getting something for free, so I wouldnt rage either HOWEVER, here is what they are upset about (and I agree it would suck)
Lets say someone DOES NOT want to play wow after the year.
ATM if you upgrade to CE you get 4 months free of wow SO if you had 6 months left, you only have to pay for 2 more months and your DONE.
However, lets say Diablo 3 does not come out until after your wow year is up... You now get 4 free months..to a game you no longer want to play.
And thats why they are upset about, due to it coming out so late, they no longer benifit from this 4 months, and are basicly no longer getting diablo 3 for free (as the $60 aka 4 months.. is not something you will use.. and is garbage to those that no longer want to play after the year).
Anyway thats the issue atm ..at least the valid one, for people getting the CE
(Im a happy AP user so w/e, I understand their issue tho. (the ones buying the CE that is.. not the others)
noone said the main reason they are upset.. First and formost they are getting something for free, so I wouldnt rage either HOWEVER, here is what they are upset about (and I agree it would suck)
Lets say someone DOES NOT want to play wow after the year.
ATM if you upgrade to CE you get 4 months free of wow SO if you had 6 months left, you only have to pay for 2 more months and your DONE.
However, lets say Diablo 3 does not come out until after your wow year is up... You now get 4 free months..to a game you no longer want to play.
And thats why they are upset about, due to it coming out so late, they no longer benifit from this 4 months, and are basicly no longer getting diablo 3 for free (as the $60 aka 4 months.. is not something you will use.. and is garbage to those that no longer want to play after the year).
Anyway thats the issue atm ..at least the valid one, for people getting the CE
(Im a happy AP user so w/e, I understand their issue tho. (the ones buying the CE that is.. not the others)
It's not really free, you get it for committing to a year sub of WoW. It's a contract, they do it with cell phones too, not really free by any means.
noone said the main reason they are upset.. First and formost they are getting something for free, so I wouldnt rage either HOWEVER, here is what they are upset about (and I agree it would suck) Lets say someone DOES NOT want to play wow after the year. ATM if you upgrade to CE you get 4 months free of wow SO if you had 6 months left, you only have to pay for 2 more months and your DONE. However, lets say Diablo 3 does not come out until after your wow year is up... You now get 4 free months..to a game you no longer want to play. And thats why they are upset about, due to it coming out so late, they no longer benifit from this 4 months, and are basicly no longer getting diablo 3 for free (as the $60 aka 4 months.. is not something you will use.. and is garbage to those that no longer want to play after the year). Anyway thats the issue atm ..at least the valid one, for people getting the CE (Im a happy AP user so w/e, I understand their issue tho. (the ones buying the CE that is.. not the others)
It's not really free, you get it for committing to a year sub of WoW. It's a contract, they do it with cell phones too, not really free by any means.
if you were already going to pay for wow for 1 year, it is free. (for people like me that pay the 6 months so its $3 cheaper it much.. pretty much already know a year was going to happen)
its also not a Legally held contract, calling billing and they let you cancle like normal with no fee.
(or you can cancle the card you used =P)
But all that is beside the point. The CE is something I see as a valid reason to be a little ERR about.
noone said the main reason they are upset.. First and formost they are getting something for free, so I wouldnt rage either HOWEVER, here is what they are upset about (and I agree it would suck)
Lets say someone DOES NOT want to play wow after the year.
ATM if you upgrade to CE you get 4 months free of wow SO if you had 6 months left, you only have to pay for 2 more months and your DONE.
However, lets say Diablo 3 does not come out until after your wow year is up... You now get 4 free months..to a game you no longer want to play.
And thats why they are upset about, due to it coming out so late, they no longer benifit from this 4 months, and are basicly no longer getting diablo 3 for free (as the $60 aka 4 months.. is not something you will use.. and is garbage to those that no longer want to play after the year).
Anyway thats the issue atm ..at least the valid one, for people getting the CE
(Im a happy AP user so w/e, I understand their issue tho. (the ones buying the CE that is.. not the others)
For the CE thing, D3 need to be released within 4 last months in the 12 months for the deal to not work fully. Since it was announced in october we are now 3 months (12+1(january) - 10(october)) after the earliest subscriptions to this.
So it gives Blizzard at most 5 more months, whichi is June.
There is still high probabilities the game will be released before or in June.
Conclusion: There is still no need for the uproar as of yet.
This is not really a Blizzard problem though, it lies with the retailers that are taking pre-orders for a game that is not yet on the market.
"If you decide to purchase the Diablo III Collector's Edition when it's available"
Clearly, the game is not yet available. Retailers aren't selling you the CE, they're selling you the guarantee that you will get the CE when the game is out. If people would have waited to the point of "when it's available", then they would have known for sure whether or not it would actually give them a benefit.
Problem with that logic is, CE is sold out already.
The people who complain are honestly just f***ing ret*****. Just no other words for this. I'm an annual pass buyer myself, people should just read what they're signing up for, it's not like it even was a well of text / small letters either like other contracts. I'd understand some things in some other contracts other companies shove at you, because in real life, it's often a lot more unclear / small letters bs.
Here, everything was SO WELL EXPLAINED, everything was SOUND AND CLEAR, and if it wasn't, you really should go back to school, i'm sorry.
If you complain, you probably should go back to school in any case, because i hate saying this to people, but wow, you're so dumb.
Does it bother you at all that your annual pass contract might be 100% fulfilled by you, and blizzard won't have fulfilled their end of the deal? I think thats where people are getting upset. Granted we dont know for sure if the game will be delayed that long, but its entirely possible.
People feel cheated, simply because they feel like Blizzard will just postpone Diablo 3 indefinitely till god knows when. I have the pass and I'm happy with it, but no matter how you slice it, most people paid for the pass knowing that they were paying 60 bucks towards a game up front in advance. All of a sudden that game they paid for up front is being delayed indefinitely.
Just let people get upset over it. It's no big deal really.
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Something about not having your WoW account active for free while playing Diablo 3...
But this can't me right... I mean... How monumentally stupid can these people be... You get 12 months of WoW, plus Diablo 3 for free, and Diablo 3 releasing later detracts absolutely nothing from that deal.
I... just don't understand the fuss, could someone explain to me why I should be outraged here? o.o
well i agree that the annual pass deal is a good thing and people who are QQing are retards or kids but i wouldnt say the majority of wow players are kids. if your definition of kid is <18 then no. i played wow for 3 years and most everyone i met was 20+. most of the time people were mid-late 20's or higher with wives n kids. at least in the 5-6 guilds i was in with over 4k people combined, not many kids.
Quoted a whole lot of nonsense and misinformation.
People raging are fairly stupid I agree. I mean the deal was 12 months sub you get D3 free. There was no guarantee that you would get D3 in january with this deal. If people don't like WoW WHY THE FUCK did they get the deal in the first place.
The deal is good only if you play your 12 months or at least 7 of them.
The later D3 is released and the longer you play WOW the most value you get out of those 12 months you pay(ed). So really I don't get what they complain about.
Was the deal a good way/trick to incite you to keep you paying the monthly fee even if you didn't really felt like it ? YES. That was a HUGE marketing move by Blizzard. But this is not a rip off, you get what you payed for, if your ppsychology isnt strong enough for you to say "Hmmm no I won't play more than 2 or 3 months more of WoW so I don't get the deal" then it's their damn own fault to be weak minded.and they probably get f**** by these kind of deals in everyday life over and over.
Instead of working for things and being patient MMO's are now give me give me I pay $15 a month blah blah.
So in short, annual pass owners want their Diablo 3 right now because they feel entitled.
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Lets say someone DOES NOT want to play wow after the year.
ATM if you upgrade to CE you get 4 months free of wow SO if you had 6 months left, you only have to pay for 2 more months and your DONE.
However, lets say Diablo 3 does not come out until after your wow year is up... You now get 4 free months..to a game you no longer want to play.
And thats why they are upset about, due to it coming out so late, they no longer benifit from this 4 months, and are basicly no longer getting diablo 3 for free (as the $60 aka 4 months.. is not something you will use.. and is garbage to those that no longer want to play after the year).
Anyway thats the issue atm ..at least the valid one, for people getting the CE
(Im a happy AP user so w/e, I understand their issue tho. (the ones buying the CE that is.. not the others)
It's not really free, you get it for committing to a year sub of WoW. It's a contract, they do it with cell phones too, not really free by any means.
if you were already going to pay for wow for 1 year, it is free. (for people like me that pay the 6 months so its $3 cheaper it much.. pretty much already know a year was going to happen)
its also not a Legally held contract, calling billing and they let you cancle like normal with no fee.
(or you can cancle the card you used =P)
But all that is beside the point. The CE is something I see as a valid reason to be a little ERR about.
For the CE thing, D3 need to be released within 4 last months in the 12 months for the deal to not work fully. Since it was announced in october we are now 3 months (12+1(january) - 10(october)) after the earliest subscriptions to this.
So it gives Blizzard at most 5 more months, whichi is June.
There is still high probabilities the game will be released before or in June.
Conclusion: There is still no need for the uproar as of yet.
Problem with that logic is, CE is sold out already.
people that dont enjoy playing wow... well....i have no idea why you would get the year pass, if your gonna rage its your fault.
Does it bother you at all that your annual pass contract might be 100% fulfilled by you, and blizzard won't have fulfilled their end of the deal? I think thats where people are getting upset. Granted we dont know for sure if the game will be delayed that long, but its entirely possible.
Just let people get upset over it. It's no big deal really.