Could Diablo 3 be Blizzards worse game? Alirhgt Im going to have to make a statement really quick.
First off... imo from what I seen, Diablo 3 may be a massive failure. Here is the reason why. Lets take a look at how much they are changing Diablo 3 from Diablo 2 and making it more like WOW. Just because it works in WOW doesnt mean it will work in Diablo.
Now hear me out and make sure you read this.
Perfect Dark was a amazing FPS for the N64 but look what happened when they released Perfect Dark Zero on 360 so many years later and made all these changes to the game. They ruined Perfect Dark... Perfect Dark Zero was trash compared to the original.
Ok heres another game franchise I love. Armored Core. Lets look at Armored Core 4 compared to the rest of the games. They pretty much tried to change it to much and messed it up alot as well not as bad PDZ but still.
Now lets look at the time gap between Diablo 3 and Diablo 2... to me it looks like the same thing is going on here. They are changing it just like they did perfect dark and armored core and countless other games companies mess up when they try to fix whats not broken.
Morale of the story is why try to fix something that works already? Diablo 2 was a major sucess why mess with it so much and run the risk of destroying it especially after fans have been waiting all these years. This will make me lose my faith in Blizzard. If they ruin Diablo 3 I will no longer consider them one of the best developers.
I mean think about it. Look at movies even. They try to remake a movie or change alot in the sequal and look what happens most of the time... the fans are outraged and the movie is a total failure.
If you stick with the same formula you will be more successful it has been proven time and time again. With so many things... from movies to games.
Get real, folks, the diablo you all knew is dead, a few years ago i said right here in this forum that D3 had a pretty good chance of being blizzard first bust (i was flamed to death ofc), and what you know, its not even beta and its already looking that way.
What ''saddens me'' is that all we have till know is a 20 min gameplay vid from pre-alpha, that alone is enough to assume that D3 will be a failure? even thou it looks awesome?
And that's why i love pk, i would kill these people merciless over and over on battle.net :cool:
Get real, folks, the diablo you all knew is dead, a few years ago i said right here in this forum that D3 had a pretty good chance of being blizzard first bust (i was flamed to death ofc), and what you know, its not even beta and its already looking that way.
Dude Why did you open this thread...you just made half the forum hate you and the other half to not give a fuck whatever you write...Isn't there a main complaining thread? bump it up with your reply.
Search is your friend.
Another "This game is gonna suck, cuz it's not how I personally envisioned it" thread. Look, this game is ultimately Blizzard's vision, not yours. Blizzard has new material, not old material hooked up to better technology. If your imagination can't travel past the "This game should look exactly like a D2 remake." phase, please post on exsisting threads. We have a wealth of these threads already, thanks.
Since this isn't 4chan and lame shit like this can't be sage'd into oblivion, I say it simply be closed or moved to its own little subsection where people can piss and moan to themselves.
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It's time to welcome the other 80% of the color wheel to a Diablo game.
Turok (First game was loved by many, after that it was only a graphical horror filled with bugs, games to consoles should NEVER be released with so many bugs!)
Turok 2 was WAY better than Dinosaur hunter. Turok 1 was the dumbest game ever, auto aim, please... And I didn't notice anything buggy about Turok 2. It had great graphics and looked fine. It still works on my computer fine, despite the fact how old it is.
not only is diablo 3 trying to cater to the old fan base, it is also opening itself to people have never even played the diablo franchise.
there is a reason why blizzard spent so much time on this game already.. there is a reason why they have invested so much in this project.. because they KNOW it will succeed.
if this game was as bad as those 'few' make it out to be, the project would have been scrapped such a long time ago.
also, for games that went downhill, that's pretty much all personal preference.. someone mentioned that after FFX the FF series went down hill.. go to gamefaqs.com, FFXII is one of the most active boards. everyone complains that the gameplay is stupid, gambits are stupid, yadda yadda yadda..
why is it under the top 10 games? ..
again, theres a reason why large developers make these changes, because it's different and they know it will work.
Actually, isn't that why Blizzard had to absorb Blizzard North back into the main company? Because they were taking D3 in a direction that really wasn't true to the franchise?
I think they've spent a LOT of time thinking of every scenario and premise, plotting every story detail and making sure everything is polished to a high-gloss finish.
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It's time to welcome the other 80% of the color wheel to a Diablo game.
At this point I see no reason to worry about how the game will turn out... the developers may be different, but they are still Blizzard and they still have the experience of making high quality games while other companies may let themselves screw up once in a while. Even WoW is a good game from the standpoint that it was created.
In the worst case scenario, we will get a game that's somewhat different from its predecessors. But it's not going to be the first time. Diablo II is quite different from Diablo I as well, and look how that turned out. Diablo III may annoy some old fans, and favor some new people to the franchise. But I am certain it will not be a failure.
Either way, I welcome change, and if it becomes something I can't recognize (for example, how WCIII turned out), then so be it. Perhaps it's time for the game to be killed and ressurected.
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OT but first of all, it's nice that you share your own opinion but I was talking about in general what people think.
Oh, sorry about that... I'm very touchy about Turok 2.
The only thing that could be a negative change in Diablo 3 is the PvP, if they try implementing a PvP System similar to many of the current games / Hack N Slashes and don't execute it properly like most of those games fail to do, then it's deemed failure, and if the PvP in Diablo 3 is a Failure, that's a big problem.
First off... imo from what I seen, Diablo 3 may be a massive failure. Here is the reason why. Lets take a look at how much they are changing Diablo 3 from Diablo 2 and making it more like WOW. Just because it works in WOW doesnt mean it will work in Diablo.
Now hear me out and make sure you read this.
Perfect Dark was a amazing FPS for the N64 but look what happened when they released Perfect Dark Zero on 360 so many years later and made all these changes to the game. They ruined Perfect Dark... Perfect Dark Zero was trash compared to the original.
Ok heres another game franchise I love. Armored Core. Lets look at Armored Core 4 compared to the rest of the games. They pretty much tried to change it to much and messed it up alot as well not as bad PDZ but still.
Now lets look at the time gap between Diablo 3 and Diablo 2... to me it looks like the same thing is going on here. They are changing it just like they did perfect dark and armored core and countless other games companies mess up when they try to fix whats not broken.
Morale of the story is why try to fix something that works already? Diablo 2 was a major sucess why mess with it so much and run the risk of destroying it especially after fans have been waiting all these years. This will make me lose my faith in Blizzard. If they ruin Diablo 3 I will no longer consider them one of the best developers.
I mean think about it. Look at movies even. They try to remake a movie or change alot in the sequal and look what happens most of the time... the fans are outraged and the movie is a total failure.
If you stick with the same formula you will be more successful it has been proven time and time again. With so many things... from movies to games.
Seriously people.... THINK ABOUT IT.
And let me tell you something to the OP. THERES A 10 FREAGIN YEAR GAP BETWENN D2 AND D3 IRL AND A 20 YEAR GAP IN GAME. THINK ABOUT IT!
See I can do that too
There is no negativity in this post (HEAR THAT ANAKYN?!?!??!!)
no actually I did and my argument to that entire rant is..
Blizzard made perfect dark and armored core?
Does it never stop?!
Can we just wait and see when the game is released if it will fail or not?
If you say graphics you going straight to ignore list.
It sounds like he just wants D2 remade.
Embrace the change people.
Seriously!!
This game can't fail. It is probably the most anticipated sequel to a game ever, and it is made by Blizzard!!!
Blizzard doesn't fail. Period.
What ''saddens me'' is that all we have till know is a 20 min gameplay vid from pre-alpha, that alone is enough to assume that D3 will be a failure? even thou it looks awesome?
And that's why i love pk, i would kill these people merciless over and over on battle.net :cool:
Search is your friend.
Sentence of the year:
"WoW, It's like a disease"
STFU ... either you play it when it comes out or go play WoW
Im so fed up with all the negative post here.
Its gonna be an awesome game PERIOD!!!!!
Another "This game is gonna suck, cuz it's not how I personally envisioned it" thread. Look, this game is ultimately Blizzard's vision, not yours. Blizzard has new material, not old material hooked up to better technology. If your imagination can't travel past the "This game should look exactly like a D2 remake." phase, please post on exsisting threads. We have a wealth of these threads already, thanks.
It wasn't a factor back when the games were all in their most simple form.
Since this isn't 4chan and lame shit like this can't be sage'd into oblivion, I say it simply be closed or moved to its own little subsection where people can piss and moan to themselves.
It's time to welcome the other 80% of the color wheel to a Diablo game.
there is a reason why blizzard spent so much time on this game already.. there is a reason why they have invested so much in this project.. because they KNOW it will succeed.
if this game was as bad as those 'few' make it out to be, the project would have been scrapped such a long time ago.
also, for games that went downhill, that's pretty much all personal preference.. someone mentioned that after FFX the FF series went down hill.. go to gamefaqs.com, FFXII is one of the most active boards. everyone complains that the gameplay is stupid, gambits are stupid, yadda yadda yadda..
why is it under the top 10 games? ..
again, theres a reason why large developers make these changes, because it's different and they know it will work.
it's just personal preference.
change isn't always a bad thing.
I think they've spent a LOT of time thinking of every scenario and premise, plotting every story detail and making sure everything is polished to a high-gloss finish.
It's time to welcome the other 80% of the color wheel to a Diablo game.
Stop making Diablo 3 different from Diablo 2, dammit!
In the worst case scenario, we will get a game that's somewhat different from its predecessors. But it's not going to be the first time. Diablo II is quite different from Diablo I as well, and look how that turned out. Diablo III may annoy some old fans, and favor some new people to the franchise. But I am certain it will not be a failure.
Either way, I welcome change, and if it becomes something I can't recognize (for example, how WCIII turned out), then so be it. Perhaps it's time for the game to be killed and ressurected.
Oh, sorry about that... I'm very touchy about Turok 2.