i enjoy my cm on occasion, but i like to try other builds to see if i have enough gear to make it work. I am currently doing this on mp5 with about 200k buffed. its not horrible. its just really slow movement for me with only 12% ms. i am so used to the TR monk speeds
This is very interesting and thanks for sharing. I have been doing a lot of testing with a similar build but i'm using a wand and off hand. With the 4pc Tal set and 10 APoC, I am able to keep RoF and blizzard going. Tal Rasha's Unwavering Glare is especially nice as it adds 3 seconds to the blizzard duration so I use Stark Winter with it. 3 seconds may not seem like a lot however it gives me enough time to regen AP for another blizzard when I need it while still spamming RoF. The increased area and duration give me plenty of room to work with and it's very fun.
One thing to note is my sheet dps may be low but I play on MP6 and have no problems. 4.3% LL lets me ignore reflect dmg and my armor + resists are enough to keep me alive while I dodge fire, poison, etc. Most trash dies in one blizzard without having to cast anything else. I don't really need the hydra and have been messing around with teleport. Cold Blooded + Frostburns adds 50% dps but I am to the point where I'm scratching my head for the next upgrade. I'm keeping an eye out for a really nice set of gloves to try and replace the frostburns with as I'd love some more crit and CD.
I may pick up a cheap Skorn to try this out. I copied my character over to the PTR and it was insane how much faster things died with RoF so I am really looking forward to the patch. I think the Skorn may be the only option at higher MP since we will need as much LL as we can get to survive.
Whats wrong with your gloves OP? Blue gloves with strength and dex????????
OMFG....That will be the second time I have done that and I am broke atm been trying to craft better gloves......GRRRRRRRRR SHould ebe able to lock your gear...I am really torked off
Went home for lunch...my gloves are gone. Out of demonic essences to make more gloves. 9.5 million to replace leaves me...annoyed.
if it's any consolation, same thing happened to me some time except that but my gloves were like 200m. :/ luckily I was able to snipe similar ones for much less. anyways, conclusion: ALWAYS check your DPS (or any other stat) before leaving a game
Anyways…..when I decided to do black ice it was because I had pretty much no gold and I got a really good deal on a skorn. So I built around it and ended up with Black ice, and I like it. Cool and cooler. However my thought was I would use it to farm resources to get better gear and attempt to emulate Jaetch’s archon build. I forgot about that.
So, I saw Jaetch’s give away thread and looked at the gear. Mine was fairly comparable except for my big ole Skorn and I had a pair of Inna’s sittin’ in my bank. Well then… So I tried the archon build with my gear. It worked, he had higher defenses but I had a lot more LS. I will experiment more. I can certainly farm faster is select areas, not that much faster though. His triumvirate/black 1 hnd (give away gear) probably generates some more hidden DPS than my skorn.
I think I am going to scratch my archon goal because although very cool, the pressure to stay in archon is not for me. I am sure with practice and gear designed for the build it would play easier and faster but with the changes coming to RoF and black ice I think it will play as fast as archon. Going from 215-280% on RoF and 387-504% on black ice is going to absolutely crush mobs. As a matter of fact I will be trying replacing blur with glass cannon and storm armor with energy pinpoint just to see how ugly it can get.
FWIW I am not saying black ice is faster or better than archon. I do not believe it is. After 1.08 I would love to try it top end gear and compare. The drops haven’t been going my way. I had a 35 million drop in my first week back but since then….not much. Most of my gold has been made selling my old items. I got them on nice bids and I pretty much make a profit on upgrades because I am patient and cheap.
I fit Jaetch’s criteria and have a fairly good understanding of prices but it will still be a guess. If I win I would post a video in each set in the same areas for reference.
After trying Archon at lunch for a hour I went home and played it some more. I go better at keeping it going but it just isn’t for me. I like to look at gear at times, I pick up blues and whites by accident and need to drop them. Archon just makes me feel rushed. However it gave me some ideas for black ice.
So I replaced blur with glass cannon and storm armor reactive with energy armor pinpoint. DPS with scoundrel went to 300k. Big jump. Melted stuff. Moved up to MP7 and I still melted stuff. Felt a little squishy there though. Moved back to storm armor reactive and it was perfect at 289k dps buffed with scoundrel. The LS from reactive can not be discounted. I cannot wait to get home from work and try MP10 with the buffs to RoF Black Ice.
Well it's been 2 days now since I've started playing around 1.0.8 and it's fun fun fun!!!
Here's the farming route I use. I can speedfarm it with a blizzard/stark winter + teleport/wormhole and astral projection+power hungry and I only use RoF if stuff gets close and to kill elites. I run at mp2 so it's super quick and the xp/hour is crazy!
Of course you can play it on high MP as well. I can run MP7 quite comfortably but it takes a lot more time.
Here's the route: Festering woods for fast NV, then off to fields of misery. go up and start spiraling downwards as there are TONS of mobs. the caves there are awesome as well. lots of RP chests don't miss them.
Then I reach Cemetery of the forsaken and I clear it quick and the tombs. Jar of souls quest is a nice XP bonus if you come across it and there are lots of goblins there.
Then I walk down to the weeping hollow and spiral my way downwards. and for dessert I go and do the warden quest.
I am so disappointed by the AH being down. I have 66 million, more than I have ever had at once (pathetic amount I know). I can play on MP9 and 10. I was hoping to buy a Stormcrow with decent AP on crit. I need more AP on the higher MPs because the elites take longer to kill. I feel trapped by the Tal set. I think I need to break it to progress. Anyone willing to lend me one to see if it is will wotk. Husband, Dad and adult I wont keep your helm. A video of someone using with simialr gear to mine would work in MP9-10 on a boss or elite with extra health or something simialr...long fight. A miracle and a gift of one would be phenominal but I just want to try it beofre I break my set and who know when the AH will be back and my 66 million could be worthless now anyways. I will post videos of how it works and it may benefit the community somewhat. I can't even get a crummy one to drop, its making me nuts. Magusrex#1997
Special thanks to Niao for loaing me a Stormcrow. Now I have to buy one, replace my chest and belt try to craft a 9+ CC 90CD+ 300 int ammy (good luck dude)
Nice video! Some high tension moments! Were you on MP8 ?
Yes MP8. That was a first take on a lunch break. I actually play for high tension moments....I like it. It keeps the adenaline pumping. Unstable Anomaly allows me to play more aggressively. I do not think it ever kicked in on the video. I will have to rewatch to be sure. As long as do not have more than one insanity moment every 60 secs I'm cool to go buck wild.
I do not like having not experimented with anything but teleport. With the servers down I have been trying to think about what I could put in that spot. What do you think about Archon there? I think it could work if used it as it was originally intended. Get into a wo shit moment and pop it and not worry about it going down.
I think when the server pops back up I will try it with arcane destruction. 1600% weapon damage in a 15 radius should be kind of ridiculous with my gear. If I can use it to speed up elite kills, it might be worth it. I am willing to try so I have other choices to comment about there. I am curious to see how much 1600% weapon damage on a crit is. Improved archon may be the better choice, I will try both. I am skeptical because I use teleport a lot.
Anyone else have ideas to try instead of teleport?
I've seem a video with Archon + Arcane Destruction killing Ghom (I don't remember the MP) only with the boom-transformation.
It's a hell of an explosion.
I think Archon would help you a lot with this build, it busts your EHP high and your DPS also. And Archon is fun, with LASERS, LASERS EVERYWHERE (tm).
OK, FOUND THE VIDEO:
(sorry for shouting, but it's fun)
But my 2 cents: I like slow time and meteor. I think a build focused on "Death Raining From The Sky" suits our Wizardry power. Although not very effective for the game, I think its fun to see a huge meteor blasting on the heads of the demons while they're being frozen...
I've seem a video with Archon + Arcane Destruction killing Ghom (I don't remember the MP) only with the boom-transformation.
It's a hell of an explosion.
I think Archon would help you a lot with this build, it busts your EHP high and your DPS also. And Archon is fun, with LASERS, LASERS EVERYWHERE ™.
OK, FOUND THE VIDEO:
(sorry for shouting, but it's fun)
But my 2 cents: I like slow time and meteor. I think a build focused on "Death Raining From The Sky" suits our Wizardry power. Although not very effective for the game, I think its fun to see a huge meteor blasting on the heads of the demons while they're being frozen...
I did not like archon with the build. Not needed. I liked time warp +20% damage but the escapability of Teleport is still king for me. I intend to experiment with diamond skin next.
With 20 APoC i (10 from Stormcrow and 10 from Triumvirate) i run this build with 1h + source with success on mp4-5 (my gear doesn't allow higher). I have tailored the build more to my needs anyway:
- The crit proc on the main attack is a bit low, so I always run out of AP eventually when I attack single targets (last one of an extra health elite pack...). So for this I use Power of the Storm for Storm Armor to counter this.
- I use Teleport with Calamity. Great offensive usage and I can still get away.
- I never take Black Ice for party play, because in order to get an Black Ice patch, you have to get the killing blow. Rarely happens when 4 ppl are attacking something. I hope Blizzard will change the mechanic, so Black Ice applies a debuff and the patch is created when a monster dies while having the debuff, no matter who killed it.
I am also very happy with this build because it is the first one that forced me to use the terrain to my advantage. I've been running Weeping Hollow/Fields of Misery with this a lot and I always pull too many monsters and I have to retreat behind a bottle-neck so I can kill all those instantly.
Grouping and black ice is tricky. if I outgear my mates it is awesome, if they outgear me not so much. I often switch for groups. I will experiment with calamity. I like wormhole too.
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One thing to note is my sheet dps may be low but I play on MP6 and have no problems. 4.3% LL lets me ignore reflect dmg and my armor + resists are enough to keep me alive while I dodge fire, poison, etc. Most trash dies in one blizzard without having to cast anything else. I don't really need the hydra and have been messing around with teleport. Cold Blooded + Frostburns adds 50% dps but I am to the point where I'm scratching my head for the next upgrade. I'm keeping an eye out for a really nice set of gloves to try and replace the frostburns with as I'd love some more crit and CD.
I may pick up a cheap Skorn to try this out. I copied my character over to the PTR and it was insane how much faster things died with RoF so I am really looking forward to the patch. I think the Skorn may be the only option at higher MP since we will need as much LL as we can get to survive.
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Awww man, that just sucks!
So, I saw Jaetch’s give away thread and looked at the gear. Mine was fairly comparable except for my big ole Skorn and I had a pair of Inna’s sittin’ in my bank. Well then… So I tried the archon build with my gear. It worked, he had higher defenses but I had a lot more LS. I will experiment more. I can certainly farm faster is select areas, not that much faster though. His triumvirate/black 1 hnd (give away gear) probably generates some more hidden DPS than my skorn.
I think I am going to scratch my archon goal because although very cool, the pressure to stay in archon is not for me. I am sure with practice and gear designed for the build it would play easier and faster but with the changes coming to RoF and black ice I think it will play as fast as archon. Going from 215-280% on RoF and 387-504% on black ice is going to absolutely crush mobs. As a matter of fact I will be trying replacing blur with glass cannon and storm armor with energy pinpoint just to see how ugly it can get.
FWIW I am not saying black ice is faster or better than archon. I do not believe it is. After 1.08 I would love to try it top end gear and compare. The drops haven’t been going my way. I had a 35 million drop in my first week back but since then….not much. Most of my gold has been made selling my old items. I got them on nice bids and I pretty much make a profit on upgrades because I am patient and cheap.
I fit Jaetch’s criteria and have a fairly good understanding of prices but it will still be a guess. If I win I would post a video in each set in the same areas for reference.
So I replaced blur with glass cannon and storm armor reactive with energy armor pinpoint. DPS with scoundrel went to 300k. Big jump. Melted stuff. Moved up to MP7 and I still melted stuff. Felt a little squishy there though. Moved back to storm armor reactive and it was perfect at 289k dps buffed with scoundrel. The LS from reactive can not be discounted. I cannot wait to get home from work and try MP10 with the buffs to RoF Black Ice.
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Here's the farming route I use. I can speedfarm it with a blizzard/stark winter + teleport/wormhole and astral projection+power hungry and I only use RoF if stuff gets close and to kill elites. I run at mp2 so it's super quick and the xp/hour is crazy!
Of course you can play it on high MP as well. I can run MP7 quite comfortably but it takes a lot more time.
Here's the route:
Festering woods for fast NV, then off to fields of misery. go up and start spiraling downwards as there are TONS of mobs. the caves there are awesome as well. lots of RP chests don't miss them.
Then I reach Cemetery of the forsaken and I clear it quick and the tombs. Jar of souls quest is a nice XP bonus if you come across it and there are lots of goblins there.
Then I walk down to the weeping hollow and spiral my way downwards. and for dessert I go and do the warden quest.
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Wizard | Demon Hunter
and thanks
I think when the server pops back up I will try it with arcane destruction. 1600% weapon damage in a 15 radius should be kind of ridiculous with my gear. If I can use it to speed up elite kills, it might be worth it. I am willing to try so I have other choices to comment about there. I am curious to see how much 1600% weapon damage on a crit is. Improved archon may be the better choice, I will try both. I am skeptical because I use teleport a lot.
Anyone else have ideas to try instead of teleport?
It's a hell of an explosion.
I think Archon would help you a lot with this build, it busts your EHP high and your DPS also. And Archon is fun, with LASERS, LASERS EVERYWHERE (tm).
OK, FOUND THE VIDEO:
(sorry for shouting, but it's fun)
But my 2 cents: I like slow time and meteor. I think a build focused on "Death Raining From The Sky" suits our Wizardry power. Although not very effective for the game, I think its fun to see a huge meteor blasting on the heads of the demons while they're being frozen...
Wizard | Demon Hunter
I did not like archon with the build. Not needed. I liked time warp +20% damage but the escapability of Teleport is still king for me. I intend to experiment with diamond skin next.
Grouping and black ice is tricky. if I outgear my mates it is awesome, if they outgear me not so much. I often switch for groups. I will experiment with calamity. I like wormhole too.