Whats wrong with your gloves OP? Blue gloves with strength and dex????????
OMFG....That will be the second time I have done that and I am broke atm been trying to craft better gloves......GRRRRRRRRR SHould ebe able to lock your gear...I am really torked off
Went home for lunch...my gloves are gone. Out of demonic essences to make more gloves. 9.5 million to replace leaves me...annoyed.
Just registered on the forum to say thank you for this build. I really don't like the Archon and CMWW gameplay and was using a blizzard kitting spec for leveling, but it was not really effective at high MP.
With your spec and my quite poor gear i'm now able to farm MP5 quite effectively without much trouble. And i'm having fun at it!
Whats wrong with your gloves OP? Blue gloves with strength and dex????????
OMFG....That will be the second time I have done that and I am broke atm been trying to craft better gloves......GRRRRRRRRR SHould ebe able to lock your gear...I am really torked off
Went home for lunch...my gloves are gone. Out of demonic essences to make more gloves. 9.5 million to replace leaves me...annoyed.
Whats wrong with your gloves OP? Blue gloves with strength and dex????????
OMFG....That will be the second time I have done that and I am broke atm been trying to craft better gloves......GRRRRRRRRR SHould ebe able to lock your gear...I am really torked off
Went home for lunch...my gloves are gone. Out of demonic essences to make more gloves. 9.5 million to replace leaves me...annoyed.
get frostburns
I have a decent pair of Frostburns in my bank. I just do not enjoy playing without to the 10% crit chance and 48% crit damage. DPS is problably a wash. Having Crit chance north of 40% is more betta!! At least for me it is
Whats wrong with your gloves OP? Blue gloves with strength and dex????????
OMFG....That will be the second time I have done that and I am broke atm been trying to craft better gloves......GRRRRRRRRR SHould ebe able to lock your gear...I am really torked off
Went home for lunch...my gloves are gone. Out of demonic essences to make more gloves. 9.5 million to replace leaves me...annoyed.
get frostburns
I have a decent pair of Frostburns in my bank. I just do not enjoy playing without to the 10% crit chance and 48% crit damage. DPS is problably a wash. Having Crit chance north of 40% is more betta!! At least for me it is
i have been trying this build and i like the playstyle, but i seem to die really fast. sometimes melee attacks 1 shot me on mp2. reflect damage elites i have to kite alot and hope for health orbs. Any help with what i should change would be really welcome.
Your DPS looks a little low, but I think you should be able to handle MP2 just fine. That tal rasha's amulet could really use + cold damage and crit chance. I would stay on act 3 until the mob density patch. This build is called Black Ice, but maybe it should be named Snowbound. I often drag reflective to more mobs, so I can have multiple blizzards giving me life. Your other gear is looking nice, just keep upgrading, build plays better @ 150k DPS. Its is just DPS and play, keept working with it. I like force weapon over blood magic, more DPS is more life return. A little more defenses a little more DPS. You are really close to that point where it will get easy. Tal Rasha ammy with crit chance 7% & 5-6 cold would porbably put you to MP3-4.
I'm not sure that swaping holy damage to cold damage will do any good to you, as the +% damage is added to the weapon damage, not to your ability. The damage type will not change anything to the damage of your spells as they are based on the total damage of your weapon including all elemental damage regardless of the type of the damage.
(not sure this is good english, sorry for that)
This.
also: you could up your gear easily. Why the 3 tal rasha's? that doesn't make any sense to me. either you get the 4 piece bonus to cold skills & mana regeneration or u can switch to better items that will give u more int.
personally I like to roll with 24% movement speed so I always have inna's pants or lacuni's on, but that's not mandatory I guess.
Magus was right - you need more CC. if you're not going to go with the 4 piece tal's then I suggest u craft an amulet. they can get pretty awesome. check out my char for example. I gave up the tal's bonus and use crafted shoulders, bracers and amulet. I can run mp5-6 easily.
I do it with mace + Oculus + Stormcrow and it works fine on MP 3, but my gear isn't great.
Following Maka's inspiration, I've got some cheap Tal Rasha's with 10 APoC + 10 APoC on stormcrow, mixed some Life Steal Wand + Magic Weapon (blood magic), put all together with guide-chun-lis-starfighter-death-blossom-build and changed Black Ice to my favorite spell: Disintegrate / Volatility and voilá: It worked like a charm to me.
But the point is: With 20 APoC and 46% Critical Chance, it's very possible to sustain the Black Ice build with an Off Hand and a Wand. I've never ran out of Arcane Power on MP5 runs with my current gear.
I do it with mace + Oculus + Stormcrow and it works fine on MP 3, but my gear isn't great.
18 APoC and didnt worked for me , sadface ... does rubberbanding prevent u from procing APoC ? i dont see any AP spikes
^^ I actually had some rubberbanding issues last night, but that did not made my APoC suffer. I'm playing with a bad ping of about 350~400ms (Net Virtua).
How much Critical Chance you had when playing with 18 APoC ? Your current gear has 47.5% Critical Chance, that should be enough.
I'm not sure that swaping holy damage to cold damage will do any good to you, as the +% damage is added to the weapon damage, not to your ability. The damage type will not change anything to the damage of your spells as they are based on the total damage of your weapon including all elemental damage regardless of the type of the damage.
(not sure this is good english, sorry for that)
Thanks for pointing that out. Set bonus is +cold skills and bonus on amulet is +dam. Grrr. my fail. I am not really happy with black weapon damage and bonuses to elemental damage, it is not transparent or intuitive.
I do it with mace + Oculus + Stormcrow and it works fine on MP 3, but my gear isn't great.
18 APoC and didnt worked for me , sadface ... does rubberbanding prevent u from procing APoC ? i dont see any AP spikes
I have no problem with 17 APoC and 47% crit. Most of the time i'm even running with 10 APoC and Astral Presence has it give me 20k more dps by switching weapon (i'm farming on MP5-6). I can run short on long boss fight like ubers but it's fine most of the time. Just make sure to drag elites in other pack so your blizzard will crit on more mobs.
How is it with lower LS from a 1hnded weapon? I stand in plague, desecration and pound on reflective mobs if I have a decent amount of mobs on my screen. Disclaimer, I have teleport on the thumb button on my mouse. When the mobs die, I have to hit teleport REAL flippin’ fast or I die IN STANT LEE!!!(insert Jamaican accent).
18 APoC and didnt worked for me , sadface ... does rubberbanding prevent u from procing APoC ? i dont see any AP spikes
^^ I actually had some rubberbanding issues last night, but that did not made my APoC suffer. I'm playing with a bad ping of about 350~400ms (Net Virtua).
How much Critical Chance you had when playing with 18 APoC ? Your current gear has 47.5% Critical Chance, that should be enough.
EDIT to add the quote, since I'm on a new page.
0.5 less Crit ... i tried with meteors , RoF and blizzard
^^ That's strange, I have about the same as you, only 2 more APoC, and I never run out of AP... I did not try to run an uber, but I could manage to kill Ghom on MP5 without problems.
(although I had to use 1 potion before killing him)
How is it with lower LS from a 1hnded weapon? I stand in plague, desecration and pound on reflective mobs if I have a decent amount of mobs on my screen. Disclaimer, I have teleport on the thumb button on my mouse. When the mobs die, I have to hit teleport REAL flippin’ fast or I die IN STANT LEE!!!(insert Jamaican accent).
I'm using 3% on wand plus 1.5% from Magic Weapon. It's working fine with my DPS (about 125~130 kDPS unbuffed). So far, no problems. I don't like to kite, so I'm standing still, channeling and not dying.
I replace one my rings yesterday, The new one had 249 LoH. I replaced the ring for the increased Crit chance. The outcome was beneficial, Blizzard does work well with LoH, having a single piece of gear with some LoH is nice. I think I might add another.
Can we talk about fun? I have fun when I push it, try to take on too much and pull though. The screen is chaos, I am teleporting around, I am already at what I think is the max and get another set of elites with worse affixes and still pull through. I am like F YEAH!!!!!!!
The extra LoH made me feel like I could push it up a notch. Friends…that is fun. I was playing MP6 in a group yesterday evening and we got in the shit, really screwed up. Multiple elite groups all at the rez point. People started dropping, the Barb stood at the top of the stairs and watched me. The ground was covered in plague, desecration, flipping chains, freezy balls and bomdadiers oopsie forgot about that reflect, that too. I killed it all myself, it felt AWESOME. The topper was that cheese wizard even bailed…NICE!!! Pissed that 1.08 did not come out today, I want to do that crap on MP 7,8,9
18 APoC and didnt worked for me , sadface ... does rubberbanding prevent u from procing APoC ? i dont see any AP spikes
^^ I actually had some rubberbanding issues last night, but that did not made my APoC suffer. I'm playing with a bad ping of about 350~400ms (Net Virtua).
How much Critical Chance you had when playing with 18 APoC ? Your current gear has 47.5% Critical Chance, that should be enough.
EDIT to add the quote, since I'm on a new page.
0.5 less Crit ... i tried with meteors , RoF and blizzard
Update on APoC issue: It may be the attack speed. I changed my wand today to a faster 1.55 Slorak Madness, and now I'm running out of AP during the fight. Channeling spends more AP if you have higher attack speed.
So far, my test is preliminar, but with 20 APoC, 46% Critical Chance and 1.80 Attacks Per Second, I can't sustain any channeling build (neither Black Ice or Disintegrate).
EDIT: It's the attack speed. I've tested with a Mace (1.4 APS total, including my attack speed gear) and a Wand (1.55 APS total, including my attack speed gear). With the above stats, it's only possible to maintain channeling with the slowest weapon (Mace).
the video looks fine. and you didnt die, which is always a plus in a video. :Thumbs Up: .
since i just finished my monk to 100, i think i may try this with the wiz. might have to do some gear swapping, but it looks like fun and definitely is getting a buff in the new patch. i'll be streaming my experimentation with this too. gonna read up on the gear. thanks
the video looks fine. and you didnt die, which is always a plus in a video. :Thumbs Up: .
since i just finished my monk to 100, i think i may try this with the wiz. might have to do some gear swapping, but it looks like fun and definitely is getting a buff in the new patch. i'll be streaming my experimentation with this too. gonna read up on the gear. thanks
I do in fact die sometimes. Probably a couple of times a play session. How can you see how far you can push your build/gear if do not try to do fun stuff? I cannot play ANY game if there is not a reasonable chance I can die, I will manufacture a reason by putting conditions on my play if the game is too easy. No challenge equals no fun to me. Its why I can't play the CM wizard. I do not even like grouping with them, trivializes the game. Too much synergy, they freeze everything for me and keep the creatures in the black ice, black propagates, pop a blizzard on top its stupid easy.
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OMFG....That will be the second time I have done that and I am broke atm been trying to craft better gloves......GRRRRRRRRR SHould ebe able to lock your gear...I am really torked off
Went home for lunch...my gloves are gone. Out of demonic essences to make more gloves. 9.5 million to replace leaves me...annoyed.
Awesome!!!
get frostburns
I have a decent pair of Frostburns in my bank. I just do not enjoy playing without to the 10% crit chance and 48% crit damage. DPS is problably a wash. Having Crit chance north of 40% is more betta!! At least for me it is
Ofcourse. I meant meanwhile...
Your DPS looks a little low, but I think you should be able to handle MP2 just fine. That tal rasha's amulet could really use + cold damage and crit chance. I would stay on act 3 until the mob density patch. This build is called Black Ice, but maybe it should be named Snowbound. I often drag reflective to more mobs, so I can have multiple blizzards giving me life. Your other gear is looking nice, just keep upgrading, build plays better @ 150k DPS. Its is just DPS and play, keept working with it. I like force weapon over blood magic, more DPS is more life return. A little more defenses a little more DPS. You are really close to that point where it will get easy. Tal Rasha ammy with crit chance 7% & 5-6 cold would porbably put you to MP3-4.
This.
also: you could up your gear easily. Why the 3 tal rasha's? that doesn't make any sense to me. either you get the 4 piece bonus to cold skills & mana regeneration or u can switch to better items that will give u more int.
personally I like to roll with 24% movement speed so I always have inna's pants or lacuni's on, but that's not mandatory I guess.
Magus was right - you need more CC. if you're not going to go with the 4 piece tal's then I suggest u craft an amulet. they can get pretty awesome. check out my char for example. I gave up the tal's bonus and use crafted shoulders, bracers and amulet. I can run mp5-6 easily.
Following Maka's inspiration, I've got some cheap Tal Rasha's with 10 APoC + 10 APoC on stormcrow, mixed some Life Steal Wand + Magic Weapon (blood magic), put all together with guide-chun-lis-starfighter-death-blossom-build and changed Black Ice to my favorite spell: Disintegrate / Volatility and voilá: It worked like a charm to me.
But the point is: With 20 APoC and 46% Critical Chance, it's very possible to sustain the Black Ice build with an Off Hand and a Wand. I've never ran out of Arcane Power on MP5 runs with my current gear.
Wizard | Demon Hunter
18 APoC and didnt worked for me , sadface ... does rubberbanding prevent u from procing APoC ? i dont see any AP spikes
^^ I actually had some rubberbanding issues last night, but that did not made my APoC suffer. I'm playing with a bad ping of about 350~400ms (Net Virtua).
How much Critical Chance you had when playing with 18 APoC ? Your current gear has 47.5% Critical Chance, that should be enough.
EDIT to add the quote, since I'm on a new page.
Wizard | Demon Hunter
You nailed it. I said Volatility, but I really use Chaos Nexus... My fault... LASERS, LASERS EVERYWHERE!!!
Wizard | Demon Hunter
Thanks for pointing that out. Set bonus is +cold skills and bonus on amulet is +dam. Grrr. my fail. I am not really happy with black weapon damage and bonuses to elemental damage, it is not transparent or intuitive.
How is it with lower LS from a 1hnded weapon? I stand in plague, desecration and pound on reflective mobs if I have a decent amount of mobs on my screen. Disclaimer, I have teleport on the thumb button on my mouse. When the mobs die, I have to hit teleport REAL flippin’ fast or I die IN STANT LEE!!!(insert Jamaican accent).
0.5 less Crit ... i tried with meteors , RoF and blizzard
(although I had to use 1 potion before killing him)
I'm using 3% on wand plus 1.5% from Magic Weapon. It's working fine with my DPS (about 125~130 kDPS unbuffed). So far, no problems. I don't like to kite, so I'm standing still, channeling and not dying.
Wizard | Demon Hunter
Can we talk about fun? I have fun when I push it, try to take on too much and pull though. The screen is chaos, I am teleporting around, I am already at what I think is the max and get another set of elites with worse affixes and still pull through. I am like F YEAH!!!!!!!
The extra LoH made me feel like I could push it up a notch. Friends…that is fun. I was playing MP6 in a group yesterday evening and we got in the shit, really screwed up. Multiple elite groups all at the rez point. People started dropping, the Barb stood at the top of the stairs and watched me. The ground was covered in plague, desecration, flipping chains, freezy balls and bomdadiers oopsie forgot about that reflect, that too. I killed it all myself, it felt AWESOME. The topper was that cheese wizard even bailed…NICE!!! Pissed that 1.08 did not come out today, I want to do that crap on MP 7,8,9
Update on APoC issue: It may be the attack speed. I changed my wand today to a faster 1.55 Slorak Madness, and now I'm running out of AP during the fight. Channeling spends more AP if you have higher attack speed.
So far, my test is preliminar, but with 20 APoC, 46% Critical Chance and 1.80 Attacks Per Second, I can't sustain any channeling build (neither Black Ice or Disintegrate).
EDIT: It's the attack speed. I've tested with a Mace (1.4 APS total, including my attack speed gear) and a Wand (1.55 APS total, including my attack speed gear). With the above stats, it's only possible to maintain channeling with the slowest weapon (Mace).
Wizard | Demon Hunter
since i just finished my monk to 100, i think i may try this with the wiz. might have to do some gear swapping, but it looks like fun and definitely is getting a buff in the new patch. i'll be streaming my experimentation with this too. gonna read up on the gear. thanks
http://us.battle.net...22/hero/3153312 (wiz)
http://us.battle.net/d3/en/profile/heavymetal-1322/hero/8654665 (monk)
my twitch feed (just messing around, no super player or anything)
http://www.justin.tv/heavymetalmak
I do in fact die sometimes. Probably a couple of times a play session. How can you see how far you can push your build/gear if do not try to do fun stuff? I cannot play ANY game if there is not a reasonable chance I can die, I will manufacture a reason by putting conditions on my play if the game is too easy. No challenge equals no fun to me. Its why I can't play the CM wizard. I do not even like grouping with them, trivializes the game. Too much synergy, they freeze everything for me and keep the creatures in the black ice, black propagates, pop a blizzard on top its stupid easy.