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The developers choice to blend a "shaolin style" monk with an Eastern European man makes him look like a really badass version of an Eastern Orthodox Monk. Belonging to this communion of Christians, it made me smile.
I wonder if the developers had this in mind at all or have no idea what orthodox monasticism even is.
Anyways MONK FTW!
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So I answered my own question by watching the monsters and heroes panel and within the first 6 minutes he says "we wanted to blend the kung-fu Asian style monk with an Eastern Orthodox monk or eastern European style..."
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So I answered my own question by watching the monsters and heroes panel and within the first 6 minutes he says "we wanted to blend the kung-fu Asian style monk with an Eastern Orthodox monk or eastern European style..."
I think the Eastern Orthodox part of it was more in the character's ethnicity, whereas its fighting style and clothing obviously leans more towards the Shaolin monk side of things.
Everytime I see the monk, I can't help but shake off the feeling that he's a balder, younger Rasputin. Gotta love those crazy Siberians, being right in Russia but with the Orient at their fingertips.
Jackzor I kind of agree although his reference to Orthodoxy isn't his "ethnicity." It's obvious they combined the Orthodox and Shaolin monks but one of the beautiful aspects of Orthodoxy is that ethnicity is embraced. There are multiple communions within the one church that all agree on all things doctrinal but have different cultural expressions of the faith (we have particular churches of Arabic, Ethiopian, Bulgarian, Romanian, Greek, Antiochian, Russian, Serbian, American, Japanese, Alaskan, etc etc). And all are welcome and considered Orthodox in whatever group they decide to join.
Back to diablo 3, I also liked the fact that they did a little research and said the leaders of the monks were called patriarchs (a title given to the highest bishop of an ancient or autocephalous church) and that both groups have a focus on meditation. Eastern Christianity happens to share certain philosophies with the far eastern religions although there are differences in meaning (orthodox for example are panentheist as opposed to pantheist).
As HatFried pointed out (awesome picture btw) the russians and some of the eastern european countries are probably the most well known worldwide so that's why I think they gave the monk an eastern european 'look.'
I like the balance they struck between the two. Orthodox do not shave their head or beard at all, but in general shaolin monks shave both. Orthodox monks aren't badass kung-fu masters of the world, shaolin (supposedly) were/are. The monk isn't actually dressed too differently for either type (obviously ignoring the armor and huge bo staff... and lack of a hat... and a lot of the outfit i guess:rolleyes:).
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They should name the new class "The experminator Chack Noris" to make it more impressive...
I like the balance they struck between the two. Orthodox do not shave their head or beard at all, but in general shaolin monks shave both. Orthodox monks aren't badass kung-fu masters of the world, shaolin (supposedly) were/are. The monk isn't actually dressed too differently for either type (obviously ignoring the armor and huge bo staff... and lack of a hat... and a lot of the outfit i guess:rolleyes:).
Shaolin/Buddhist Monks don't shave their beards if they don't want to.
most Shaolin Monks especially the elder ones don't shave their beards
and the staff is the one weapon which Shaolin was known for in addition to all their other martial arts
I don't really see the 'Orthodox Christian' in the monk, although I'm a bit unsure of the ethnicity. I'm thinking 'persian' rather than eastern-european.
This was confirmed by the heroes and monsters panel at blizzcon.
It's not an exact quote but he said they "wanted to give him an Eastern Orthodox or Eastern European appearance."
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Shaolin/Buddhist Monks don't shave their beards if they don't want to.
most Shaolin Monks especially the elder ones don't shave their beards
and the staff is the one weapon which Shaolin was known for in addition to all their other martial arts
Good point... Maybe it's my addiction to oldschool kung-fu movies but I just imagined the elders/abbot with the super long "fumanchu" as opposed to the full grown beard.
EDIT: Also I meant you'd have to disregard the staff/armor/lack of full cover for the Orthodox Monk... this is where they blended the Shaolin elements (along with the dots on the forhead).
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I thought they look like a Christian Monk employing Shaolin fighting style. So its basically a mix of those two. I guess the monk is the blend of all type of monks in real life.
its not a real world...
this is sanctuary!!
I believe that in this world (Sanctuary) does'nt apply the rules of our world.
Hence the blend.
Sanctuary might not be real, but it is inspired by the real world. Where do you think big ass fighter wielding a sword come from?
Heck, if they want to make a fighter class that have nothing to do with real world, they could just make him fight with big balls of steel and metal boot full of nails!
Man, on the subject of baldness, I really hope they decide to make the females shaven too. It's just a pet peeve of mine that there's so many games or settings where the men are shaven for religious reasons, yet as soon as they're depicting a woman, they make concessions based on them being female.
This is why I wouldn't mind a bald woman.
But if they decided to have her lean on the more orthodox route they could give her long scraggly hair or cool dreads or something.
Afterall, maybe the women have a different tradition in "Orthaolinduism." (like that? :-D)
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They should name the new class "The experminator Chack Noris" to make it more impressive...
You know what would be a very cool feature? Add into the lore that the length of hair is a direct representation of rank and power in their order. Your character starts out bald and no beard where you be male or female and as you level up your beard grows for a man and hair for a women to represent your increased power and rank I know thats never going to happen but it would be interesting lol
The developers choice to blend a "shaolin style" monk with an Eastern European man makes him look like a really badass version of an Eastern Orthodox Monk. Belonging to this communion of Christians, it made me smile.
I wonder if the developers had this in mind at all or have no idea what orthodox monasticism even is.
Anyways MONK FTW!
[keep your religious debate to a minimum]
So I answered my own question by watching the monsters and heroes panel and within the first 6 minutes he says "we wanted to blend the kung-fu Asian style monk with an Eastern Orthodox monk or eastern European style..."
Lord, beer me strength.
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Jackzor I kind of agree although his reference to Orthodoxy isn't his "ethnicity." It's obvious they combined the Orthodox and Shaolin monks but one of the beautiful aspects of Orthodoxy is that ethnicity is embraced. There are multiple communions within the one church that all agree on all things doctrinal but have different cultural expressions of the faith (we have particular churches of Arabic, Ethiopian, Bulgarian, Romanian, Greek, Antiochian, Russian, Serbian, American, Japanese, Alaskan, etc etc). And all are welcome and considered Orthodox in whatever group they decide to join.
Back to diablo 3, I also liked the fact that they did a little research and said the leaders of the monks were called patriarchs (a title given to the highest bishop of an ancient or autocephalous church) and that both groups have a focus on meditation. Eastern Christianity happens to share certain philosophies with the far eastern religions although there are differences in meaning (orthodox for example are panentheist as opposed to pantheist).
As HatFried pointed out (awesome picture btw) the russians and some of the eastern european countries are probably the most well known worldwide so that's why I think they gave the monk an eastern european 'look.'
I like the balance they struck between the two. Orthodox do not shave their head or beard at all, but in general shaolin monks shave both. Orthodox monks aren't badass kung-fu masters of the world, shaolin (supposedly) were/are. The monk isn't actually dressed too differently for either type (obviously ignoring the armor and huge bo staff... and lack of a hat... and a lot of the outfit i guess:rolleyes:).
Thanks for the avatar defense btw.
You sir are awesome for knowing the reference:
"Beer me!"
..."?"...
"Hand me that water, I always say 'beer me,' gets a laugh like a quarter of the time."
Lord, beer me strength.
Shaolin/Buddhist Monks don't shave their beards if they don't want to.
most Shaolin Monks especially the elder ones don't shave their beards
and the staff is the one weapon which Shaolin was known for in addition to all their other martial arts
This was confirmed by the heroes and monsters panel at blizzcon.
It's not an exact quote but he said they "wanted to give him an Eastern Orthodox or Eastern European appearance."
Good point... Maybe it's my addiction to oldschool kung-fu movies but I just imagined the elders/abbot with the super long "fumanchu" as opposed to the full grown beard.
EDIT: Also I meant you'd have to disregard the staff/armor/lack of full cover for the Orthodox Monk... this is where they blended the Shaolin elements (along with the dots on the forhead).
Lord, beer me strength.
Anyways i hope the girl monky isnt bald.
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I wouldn't mind if she's bald.... I doubt she will be though. Maybe some scraggly hair?
Better yet, DREADS!
Lord, beer me strength.
this is sanctuary!!
I believe that in this world (Sanctuary) does'nt apply the rules of our world.
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Hence the blend.
Sanctuary might not be real, but it is inspired by the real world. Where do you think big ass fighter wielding a sword come from?
Heck, if they want to make a fighter class that have nothing to do with real world, they could just make him fight with big balls of steel and metal boot full of nails!
This is why I wouldn't mind a bald woman.
But if they decided to have her lean on the more orthodox route they could give her long scraggly hair or cool dreads or something.
Afterall, maybe the women have a different tradition in "Orthaolinduism." (like that? :-D)
Lord, beer me strength.
Lord, beer me strength.