Yea I just wanna make sure my DH can get them before I spend more shards
Hey Kadman,
I've had TnT for a while on my DH and I want to suggest you go a different route. Fire Spec with Cindercoat or Magefist will outdps the TnT. If you are lucky like me and get Hexing pants that is also amazing for BiS but after playing physical for a while I'm making the change due to overwhelming evidence that fire seems to have an edge on physical builds.
From what I've researched on it comes down to these top 3 (higher the better) keep in mind that doing t6 with these builds will all yield similar results it comes down to your preference play style
#1 Fire Build with Cindercoat that rolled 3 sockets so you can add sentry damage to it
#2 Hexing pants fire build - very similar dps to above
#3 TnT Physical Build
Yea I just wanna make sure my DH can get them before I spend more shards
Hey Kadman,
I've had TnT for a while on my DH and I want to suggest you go a different route. Fire Spec with Cindercoat or Magefist will outdps the TnT. If you are lucky like me and get Hexing pants that is also amazing for BiS but after playing physical for a while I'm making the change due to overwhelming evidence that fire seems to have an edge on physical builds.
From what I've researched on it comes down to these top 3 (higher the better) keep in mind that doing t6 with these builds will all yield similar results it comes down to your preference play style
#1 Fire Build with Cindercoat that rolled 3 sockets so you can add sentry damage to it
#2 Hexing pants fire build - very similar dps to above
#3 TnT Physical Build
You can't run magefist/cindercoat AND hexing pants if you're running 6-piece Mara. T&T are indeed where it's at.
Yes, they can be gambled on a DH from Kadala. I lost track of how many shards I spent (lots, 5 pairs of Mara gloves and countless other legendary gloves) but the only pair I've ever seen came from her and luckily they rolled out trifecta. Even if they hadn't, the speed boost would almost certainly make them worth using. Remember, they're not just buffing the sentries, the entire zoo will benefit and it is immediately noticeable.
Yea I just wanna make sure my DH can get them before I spend more shards
Hey Kadman,
I've had TnT for a while on my DH and I want to suggest you go a different route. Fire Spec with Cindercoat or Magefist will outdps the TnT. If you are lucky like me and get Hexing pants that is also amazing for BiS but after playing physical for a while I'm making the change due to overwhelming evidence that fire seems to have an edge on physical builds.
From what I've researched on it comes down to these top 3 (higher the better) keep in mind that doing t6 with these builds will all yield similar results it comes down to your preference play style
#1 Fire Build with Cindercoat that rolled 3 sockets so you can add sentry damage to it
#2 Hexing pants fire build - very similar dps to above
#3 TnT Physical Build
You can't run magefist/cindercoat AND hexing pants if you're running 6-piece Mara. T&T are indeed where it's at.
Yes, they can be gambled on a DH from Kadala. I lost track of how many shards I spent (lots, 5 pairs of Mara gloves and countless other legendary gloves) but the only pair I've ever seen came from her and luckily they rolled out trifecta. Even if they hadn't, the speed boost would almost certainly make them worth using. Remember, they're not just buffing the sentries, the entire zoo will benefit and it is immediately noticeable.
Let me really slow down because you clearly didn't understand a thing I said:
6 piece marauder with cindercoat that has sentry damage is BIS (Fire build)
6 piece marauder with hexing pants is 2nd BiS(Fire build)
6 piece marauder with hexing pants physical is 3rd BiS (Physical Build)
6 piece marauder with TnT is 4th BiS(Physical Build)
and if you still think TnT is where its at please go do more research the numbers are out there - if you just like the playstyle thats a different story but wasting shards on trying to obtain TnT is dumb because magefist fire build does more dps than them
I understood you just fine, you just like to be contrary for the sake of being contrary. You also like to be insulting when someone disagrees. That's fine too, whatever makes you happy. I have equal fire and physical equipment for every other slot, my magefists are actually BETTER than my T&T gloves. I've run the DPS meter myself but if you'd like to just accept what other people have researched for you that's your prerogative.
If we're talking about what "playstyle" I like, it wouldn't be any of these. It would be a full lightning build with a Kridershot. This is certainly not optimal, definitely does not do the most DPS, and wouldn't be called BiS by anyone. But that's my playstyle preference.
I understood you just fine, you just like to be contrary for the sake of being contrary. You also like to be insulting when someone disagrees. That's fine too, whatever makes you happy. I have equal fire and physical equipment for every other slot, my magefists are actually BETTER than my T&T gloves. I've run the DPS meter myself but if you'd like to just accept what other people have researched for you that's your prerogative.
If we're talking about what "playstyle" I like, it wouldn't be any of these. It would be a full lightning build with a Kridershot. This is certainly not optimal, definitely does not do the most DPS, and wouldn't be called BiS by anyone. But that's my playstyle preference.
I love the I have equal fire/physical gear - umm so do I - is that suppose to make your argument better? Oh and people doing research for me? Yeah why not? There is a lengthy post with all the number crunching you can do possible with no bias towards either build. Run your BS meters (btw which arn't supported) all day the stats are out there if you don't care thats fine but don't spread misinformation about tnt being BiS
It's not a bias. I could care less. Like I said, my dog isn't even in this race, because it's not BiS for any build. I'm just telling you that I've run the meter. You can call it BS if you like. Lots of people won't run the meter due to the third party thing but I figured it was worth it. Numbers on a spreadsheet are fine, simulations are fine, but I want to see what happens in the actual game.
I've seen your posts, everyone knows your style and I figured you'd respond as such. You didn't disappoint. To be honest, I like your posts. I find them consistent and entertaining. You can disagree with my "bs meters" and quote your stats, I'm personally going to stick with what I've seen with my own eyes. The beauty is, we can both believe what we want and play how we like. It's wonderful!
The actual question was, can T&T be gambled from Kadala on a DH? Yes, they most definitely can. That's where my pair came from and a friend's DH got his pair from her as well.
It's not a bias. I could care less. Like I said, my dog isn't even in this race, because it's not BiS for any build. I'm just telling you that I've run the meter. You can call it BS if you like. Lots of people won't run the meter due to the third party thing but I figured it was worth it. Numbers on a spreadsheet are fine, simulations are fine, but I want to see what happens in the actual game.
I've seen your posts, everyone knows your style and I figured you'd respond as such. You didn't disappoint. To be honest, I like your posts. I find them consistent and entertaining. You can disagree with my "bs meters" and quote your stats, I'm personally going to stick with what I've seen with my own eyes. The beauty is, we can both believe what we want and play how we like. It's wonderful!
The actual question was, can T&T be gambled from Kadala on a DH? Yes, they most definitely can. That's where my pair came from and a friend's DH got his pair from her as well.
I'm sorry - and for the record I run physical with hexing pants - I have to much passion for DH need to tone it down
Been trying to get Marauder gloves with either crit or crit dmg for the past few days in order to use a SoJ+Unity combo. Suffice to say, I got 4 tasker and theos before I got those bastard marauder gloves (my third marauder). Luckily they "dropped" about 10 gloves after the fourth TnT.
But hey, I've got trifecter dex TnT's now, yay me :S?
Yea I just wanna make sure my DH can get them before I spend more shards
Hey Kadman,
I've had TnT for a while on my DH and I want to suggest you go a different route. Fire Spec with Cindercoat or Magefist will outdps the TnT. If you are lucky like me and get Hexing pants that is also amazing for BiS but after playing physical for a while I'm making the change due to overwhelming evidence that fire seems to have an edge on physical builds.
From what I've researched on it comes down to these top 3 (higher the better) keep in mind that doing t6 with these builds will all yield similar results it comes down to your preference play style
#1 Fire Build with Cindercoat that rolled 3 sockets so you can add sentry damage to it
#2 Hexing pants fire build - very similar dps to above
#3 TnT Physical Build
You can't run magefist/cindercoat AND hexing pants if you're running 6-piece Mara. T&T are indeed where it's at.
Yes, they can be gambled on a DH from Kadala. I lost track of how many shards I spent (lots, 5 pairs of Mara gloves and countless other legendary gloves) but the only pair I've ever seen came from her and luckily they rolled out trifecta. Even if they hadn't, the speed boost would almost certainly make them worth using. Remember, they're not just buffing the sentries, the entire zoo will benefit and it is immediately noticeable.
Let me really slow down because you clearly didn't understand a thing I said:
6 piece marauder with cindercoat that has sentry damage is BIS (Fire build)
6 piece marauder with hexing pants is 2nd BiS(Fire build)
6 piece marauder with hexing pants physical is 3rd BiS (Physical Build)
6 piece marauder with TnT is 4th BiS(Physical Build)
and if you still think TnT is where its at please go do more research the numbers are out there - if you just like the playstyle thats a different story but wasting shards on trying to obtain TnT is dumb because magefist fire build does more dps than them
I was under the impression that all of these would be behind a Stone of Jordan build, though - consider:
To get SoJ's 20% elemental dmg and 30% elite dmg, you're giving up two affixes on a ring of royal grandeour (usually attack speed and crit or crit dmg). Attack speed is not good for sentries, so basicly, one affix for 20%+30% dmg.
Using the ring you can then unlock either:
Cindercoat (20% dmg, so 30% elite dmg missing from SoJ. Also lack a main stat).
Magefists (20% dmg, so 30% elite dmg missing from SoJ).
Hexing pants (25% flat dmg, so 25% dmg missing from SoJ. Requires you to develop ADD).
So no matter how you spin it, I don't see how any of those builds beats a unity+SoJ combo, with 6 marauder pieces.
Yea honestly from what I have read all TnT does is boost auto attack speed of the turret, not how fast cluster and multi shot shoot.. So in all reality more % damage is best for the sentry build.
Yea honestly from what I have read all TnT does is boost auto attack speed of the turret, not how fast cluster and multi shot shoot.. So in all reality more % damage is best for the sentry build.
It does add shots at specific thresholds for Multishot. Cluster arrow stays at 9 per turret throughout, though. Here's a post detailing it:
I've had TnT for a while on my DH and I want to suggest you go a different route. Fire Spec with Cindercoat or Magefist will outdps the TnT. If you are lucky like me and get Hexing pants that is also amazing for BiS but after playing physical for a while I'm making the change due to overwhelming evidence that fire seems to have an edge on physical builds.
From what I've researched on it comes down to these top 3 (higher the better) keep in mind that doing t6 with these builds will all yield similar results it comes down to your preference play style
#1 Fire Build with Cindercoat that rolled 3 sockets so you can add sentry damage to it
#2 Hexing pants fire build - very similar dps to above
#3 TnT Physical Build
Yes, they can be gambled on a DH from Kadala. I lost track of how many shards I spent (lots, 5 pairs of Mara gloves and countless other legendary gloves) but the only pair I've ever seen came from her and luckily they rolled out trifecta. Even if they hadn't, the speed boost would almost certainly make them worth using. Remember, they're not just buffing the sentries, the entire zoo will benefit and it is immediately noticeable.
Let me really slow down because you clearly didn't understand a thing I said:
6 piece marauder with cindercoat that has sentry damage is BIS (Fire build)
6 piece marauder with hexing pants is 2nd BiS(Fire build)
6 piece marauder with hexing pants physical is 3rd BiS (Physical Build)
6 piece marauder with TnT is 4th BiS(Physical Build)
and if you still think TnT is where its at please go do more research the numbers are out there - if you just like the playstyle thats a different story but wasting shards on trying to obtain TnT is dumb because magefist fire build does more dps than them
If we're talking about what "playstyle" I like, it wouldn't be any of these. It would be a full lightning build with a Kridershot. This is certainly not optimal, definitely does not do the most DPS, and wouldn't be called BiS by anyone. But that's my playstyle preference.
I've seen your posts, everyone knows your style and I figured you'd respond as such. You didn't disappoint. To be honest, I like your posts. I find them consistent and entertaining. You can disagree with my "bs meters" and quote your stats, I'm personally going to stick with what I've seen with my own eyes. The beauty is, we can both believe what we want and play how we like. It's wonderful!
The actual question was, can T&T be gambled from Kadala on a DH? Yes, they most definitely can. That's where my pair came from and a friend's DH got his pair from her as well.
WD Season 8 https://www.diabloprogress.com/hero/finiar-1655/Kildare/84509816
Monk season 7 http://www.diabloprogress.com/hero/finiar-1655/MojoJoJo/42225505
DH season 6 http://www.diabloprogress.com/hero/finiar-1655/DeadShot/75655606
Angry Chicken http://www.diabloprogress.com/hero/finiar-1655/WhoDoVooDoo/68187610
What? Me worry?
But hey, I've got trifecter dex TnT's now, yay me :S?
I was under the impression that all of these would be behind a Stone of Jordan build, though - consider:
To get SoJ's 20% elemental dmg and 30% elite dmg, you're giving up two affixes on a ring of royal grandeour (usually attack speed and crit or crit dmg). Attack speed is not good for sentries, so basicly, one affix for 20%+30% dmg.
Using the ring you can then unlock either:
Cindercoat (20% dmg, so 30% elite dmg missing from SoJ. Also lack a main stat).
Magefists (20% dmg, so 30% elite dmg missing from SoJ).
Hexing pants (25% flat dmg, so 25% dmg missing from SoJ. Requires you to develop ADD).
So no matter how you spin it, I don't see how any of those builds beats a unity+SoJ combo, with 6 marauder pieces.
http://us.battle.net/d3/en/forum/topic/12945884471