7/10 or +1 for legacy Nat's (+1 only because you are not using 4P at all times, which defeats the main purpose of wearing legacy pieces).
You start to trail behind damage-wise when using legacy Nats and it will only get worse unless you can get your hands on well rolled items in other slots.
I have probably hit a ceiling where I can go with my funds. Im down to some 30m, things do not sell on GAH, and every piece of gear that would be upgrade now costs mad amounts of gold.
Im looking for upgrades within reasonable budget:
Rare ring, gloves and around plevel 70 also neck.
I hope for Witching Hour drop If that happens, I will want to reshuffle Nat's and Inna's pieces to keep at least both 2P bonuses.
I'm trying to pick up a natalyza gaze with socket just for pLvLing. Not cheap tho. =( I use the 4pc for ubers and inefficient higher mp farming (pretty rare that I go for anything over 5). I do fine with 3pc (my boots are well rolled legacy) in MP4&5. I mainly use it for the infinite gloom for higher MP lvl vs RD pack as I don't kill them in two glooms as I do int he lower MPs. For pLvL i do 1-2 and obviously you just roll through those. I play super casual believe it or not.
You have a very good start. Most the of gear is right where you want it.
You need to up the crit on some major pieces though:
neck - you have 5.0 you wanna get that to 10.
Wrists - PoG is nice is has decent stats but the 3.5% crit is brutal..Go for a rare with mad dex and 6%.
Helm - I know most DH's in here are gonna loose it But this is why i go Andariels visage over the Mempo Crit costs to damn much and the 4.5% is clutch.
I like you picked up a second ring with crit on it to make up for the helm though but overall you can prob get another 10-12% crit.
Your Dex is very good. Only small improvements can be made:
Shoulders - You got 190 dex witch is damn good but a vile ward could bump that up. (i myself have this same problem there are much better ones out there)
Neck - Your rockin like 60 Dex, major room for improvement here.
Your attack speed is awesome. Not to much can be added to this but the one thing that did stand out was the 14% on the DML.
The Critical hit damage is good. Only major improvement is the obvious 2 socket manticore but thats just un reasonable.
I'd love to get a rating on my DH.
A few notes: Can't stand crossbows, due to the clunky feeling, so cba to use Manticore. The lacuni is just for farming, might pop out my alternative dps gearset that I'm using for ubers at a later point, if I remember it.
you could use a lot of improvement with your aspd
-andariels/mempo as 3 set nats seems unnecessary
-lacuni - aspd + crit
-quiver - i get it has hungering arrow damage but usually your main damager is your hatred spender
seems your profile is currently showing your quick mp0-2 run build as it has signet and multishot so i'm guessing your 'main ring' will be much better
you seem to have way too much armor/life with little AR.. a balance of both would be better. Also seems you have too much unnecessary HP especially since you already have gloom and perfectionist. seems it won't be necessary to have as much HP since you have lifesteal and damage reduction already.. kind of overkill i guess?
i also get that you don't use passive damage buffs but you could still improve your dps by incorporating more aspd
hmmm.. looking at it at a tanky dh kind of gameplay, maybe 7.5/10? tanky DH is a little bit less efficient IMO because you could concentrate on DPS and just enough survivability to take 3 hits from normal monsters and 2 hits from elites and you're good. as for ubers, gloom fixes that problem.
http:// us.battle.net/d3/en/profile/Robbie-6838/hero/1376697 connect the spaces instead since i don't have 10 posts yet =P
only missing additional AR and possibly disc. i'd say 9/10 since the two things i mentioned are for survivability but i doubt you'd have a problem with that since 1, you can one shot white mobs and 2, there's preparation.
as for the comment on witching hour, after i input your stats on my sheet seems i lose damage.. 8% is variable and with higher damage, the value of 8% increases.. that and i like that it already has armor so all i needed was an AR random roll
@wizart
disc is unnecessary on chest since i could perma gloom if i wanted too.. i'm guessing this has something to do with gameplay as well, i feel that having more aspd allows you to kite faster and you get hit less - you also output damage faster killing enemies that get near you quicker meaning you don't use disc as much
no vit on boots seems a little odd to me.. i'd agree with the low HP but particularly on boots? hmm.. if that were the case, perhaps your pants should switch out MF roll with AR roll since you need resistance more than you need MF? hp isn't too much of a problem mp4-7(normal farming + key hunt) but they are a problem for me on mp7-8 ubers T_T hoping a mempo with CC would solve the HP problem as well because there's a potential 28-30 percent inc HP.
My profile is on my signature so please go ahead.
I have a crap yellow ring on me just for the interface dps fetish. Generally I have a SoJ equipped so that gives me in total:
+32% damage against elite and boss, +25% damage on spike trap and +14% damage to bola shot.
My profile is on my signature so please go ahead.
I have a crap yellow ring on me just for the interface dps fetish. Generally I have a SoJ equipped so that gives me in total:
+32% damage against elite and boss, +25% damage on spike trap and +14% damage to bola shot.
Dont think any comments are necessary. Incredible DH. Just one question - when do you think it is more efficient to equip mempo instead of Nats sight? For example I have a 6.0 cc Nats helm right now and I would like to find out what stats should mempo have to out-dps the Nats sight, also considering that I will lose the 3 set bonus? Maybe you could give the approximate numbers.
Are you referring to a mempo with 6.0 cc as well? If we disregard the additional survivability provided by mempo and only consider DPS, it all depends on how each stat worth for your current set of gear.
Currently 1 Dex is 94.5 dps and 1% attack speed is 1830 dps for me, so 8% attack speed out weight 130 dex provided by 3 nat set bonus on any day. However it may be a different story for other people.
I chose 0 cc mempo rather than Nat helm based on the overall AR and additional life% that it gives me, which is extremely crucial for me to be able to tank elite packs on MP8 and up. But again I see cc mempo to be more of an end game item than cc Nat helm, dps gain from attack speed on gearing becomes ridiculously high when you reach a certain number of cc and cd.
Rate me. ^^
I am looking for a new Manticore, but at moment AH dont have any with 1300 DPS... I am planning to spend like 100 - 120kk to buy a really good one.
Is it enough gold? It dont need have Vitality.
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Rate me. ^^
I am looking for a new Manticore, but at moment AH dont have any with 1300 DPS... I am planning to spend like 100 - 120kk to buy a really good one.
Is it enough gold? It dont need have Vitality.
I cannot post URL right now, then there is my Battle TAG.
Walkrad#1289
I would rate a straight 8. I think that 30 disc is too little, but you have some pretty good itens. I would go for inna's chest with +10disc at least.
You've picked up a very nice Hellfire ring if I may say so, grats. I've been circulating around your items trying to find a clear gap for an upgrade but can't find it to be honest.
If you would even feel like you could live without the 20 discipline from eh chest (but why would you?) I'd replace the ring since you already have a lot of IAS and go for something with CC/CHD/dex/Average dmg to get more output... don't know if that was particular good advice... Although, I've always used 30 discipline myself and I do OK at MP5 while farming keys.
I'm still thinking about changind my head for a mempo (but I need a lot of gold) or the ring. But I gotta say, 60 disc helps a lot in MP7+
Well faithful, you're a 9/10 lol and i'm sure you've alrdy be rated but you obv. have good gear.
I was looking at if i should drop my legacy nats to build more dps/ar/life or if i should keep it.
For either option what should be my goals on next upgrades.
My rare left ring atm is going to be a hellfire eventually so ignore that piece.
Well faithful, you're a 9/10 lol and i'm sure you've alrdy be rated but you obv. have good gear.
I was looking at if i should drop my legacy nats to build more dps/ar/life or if i should keep it.
For either option what should be my goals on next upgrades.
My rare left ring atm is going to be a hellfire eventually so ignore that piece.
I commend you, fellow LegNat, for sticking with legacy Nat's considering all the naysayers. Do you really need Prep with LegNat's 4 pc? I never found a situation where I needed more Disc and Bat will increase your hidden DPS (more Hatred).
Try and get your crit chance up and consider using Perfectionist over Tactical Advantage; it might help you address your lower life number. Try and find items with a bit more Vitality and you have pretty good All Resist. With permaGloom/Smoke Screen I don't focus on All Resist as much with LegNat.
I like Loaded for Bear over Impale since it adds some area damage. You already know about upgrading your Emeralds; good to see you put the best ones in your Manticore first.
I think my profile shows Engineering with Sentries and Spike Traps; it's my Ubers spec. I know I should increase my AllRes but with Gloom up all the time and just doing MP10 Ubers I don't feel pressure to- maybe PvP will. Working on leveling my Paragon is my next goal.
Well faithful, you're a 9/10 lol and i'm sure you've alrdy be rated but you obv. have good gear.
I was looking at if i should drop my legacy nats to build more dps/ar/life or if i should keep it.
For either option what should be my goals on next upgrades.
My rare left ring atm is going to be a hellfire eventually so ignore that piece.
I commend you, fellow LegNat, for sticking with legacy Nat's considering all the naysayers. Do you really need Prep with LegNat's 4 pc? I never found a situation where I needed more Disc and Bat will increase your hidden DPS (more Hatred).
Try and get your crit chance up and consider using Perfectionist over Tactical Advantage; it might help you address your lower life number. Try and find items with a bit more Vitality and you have pretty good All Resist. With permaGloom/Smoke Screen I don't focus on All Resist as much with LegNat.
I like Loaded for Bear over Impale since it adds some area damage. You already know about upgrading your Emeralds; good to see you put the best ones in your Manticore first.
I think my profile shows Engineering with Sentries and Spike Traps; it's my Ubers spec. I know I should increase my AllRes but with Gloom up all the time and just doing MP10 Ubers I don't feel pressure to- maybe PvP will. Working on leveling my Paragon is my next goal.
My skill build is askew b/c i was trying different things for different occasions, i only use prep for ubers/high MP key farming where i do need it for certain mobs.
With Tact. Adv i use it for paragon lvl'n on mp0-2 b/c i can fly thru those and finish my route faster, to where perfectionist isn't really that much more resist/hp b/c mines already so low.
I'm starting to think that i'll either just save all my gold for pvp, or build another sec that isn't legnat, that might be more useful for lvling/farming or ubers.
Okey, nothing really about the gear but the build. But for skills:
Use either rocket storm or Drifting Shadow, if you want to use that no-brainer build. However multishot builds are generally more effective as they let you take +1 extra mp compared to strafe builds in speed-clears. Ofcourse you need to play with them but they are more effective.
http://eu.battle.net...749/hero/140327
(Currently experimenting MP2 for maximum gain as MP1 was too trivial. MP2 however seems just as trivial so I'm considering moving to MP3 with the build and swap ferrets to bat or keep them as ferret if MP3 was still a cake-walk.)
If we put gear aside, I'm actually quite confused about your goals in the general sense. If you wished to maximize exp gain since you are currently at paragon level 12, I see a 23% exp gem on helm and no hell fire ring. If your goal is to only farm items, I see 0 MF on your gear set. If you are planning to pursue higher MP for uber boss in the future (quite frankly it's the only end game content now), your lack of AR is going to cause massive issues.
Anyway here is my gear advice, should you wish to advance to higher MP (disregard the following if you only want to do MP1-3 comfortably, which your current gear is enough)
A dex vile ward, a standard inna belt + pant, after you get 2 piece set bonus from inna belt&pant, ditch your current helm and get a standard dex mempo. Reason behind these are to boost your dps and survivability at the same time without major investment. I would also suggest for a single socket 1200+ dps manticore with dex, but that depends on your budget.
I'm trying to pick up a natalyza gaze with socket just for pLvLing. Not cheap tho. =( I use the 4pc for ubers and inefficient higher mp farming (pretty rare that I go for anything over 5). I do fine with 3pc (my boots are well rolled legacy) in MP4&5. I mainly use it for the infinite gloom for higher MP lvl vs RD pack as I don't kill them in two glooms as I do int he lower MPs. For pLvL i do 1-2 and obviously you just roll through those. I play super casual believe it or not.
profile: http://us.battle.net/d3/en/profile/vanboon-1499/hero/3962228
http://i.imgur.com/8AfIp.jpg 4/4pc natalyza dps: 73k (w/o ss), dex: 1967, health: 22k, resist: ~150, mf: 90%/261%
You have a very good start. Most the of gear is right where you want it.
You need to up the crit on some major pieces though:
neck - you have 5.0 you wanna get that to 10.
Wrists - PoG is nice is has decent stats but the 3.5% crit is brutal..Go for a rare with mad dex and 6%.
Helm - I know most DH's in here are gonna loose it But this is why i go Andariels visage over the Mempo Crit costs to damn much and the 4.5% is clutch.
I like you picked up a second ring with crit on it to make up for the helm though but overall you can prob get another 10-12% crit.
Your Dex is very good. Only small improvements can be made:
Shoulders - You got 190 dex witch is damn good but a vile ward could bump that up. (i myself have this same problem there are much better ones out there)
Neck - Your rockin like 60 Dex, major room for improvement here.
Your attack speed is awesome. Not to much can be added to this but the one thing that did stand out was the 14% on the DML.
The Critical hit damage is good. Only major improvement is the obvious 2 socket manticore but thats just un reasonable.
A few notes: Can't stand crossbows, due to the clunky feeling, so cba to use Manticore. The lacuni is just for farming, might pop out my alternative dps gearset that I'm using for ubers at a later point, if I remember it.
eu.battle.net/d3/en/profile/Neonex-2608/hero/843936
you could use a lot of improvement with your aspd
-andariels/mempo as 3 set nats seems unnecessary
-lacuni - aspd + crit
-quiver - i get it has hungering arrow damage but usually your main damager is your hatred spender
seems your profile is currently showing your quick mp0-2 run build as it has signet and multishot so i'm guessing your 'main ring' will be much better
you seem to have way too much armor/life with little AR.. a balance of both would be better. Also seems you have too much unnecessary HP especially since you already have gloom and perfectionist. seems it won't be necessary to have as much HP since you have lifesteal and damage reduction already.. kind of overkill i guess?
i also get that you don't use passive damage buffs but you could still improve your dps by incorporating more aspd
hmmm.. looking at it at a tanky dh kind of gameplay, maybe 7.5/10? tanky DH is a little bit less efficient IMO because you could concentrate on DPS and just enough survivability to take 3 hits from normal monsters and 2 hits from elites and you're good. as for ubers, gloom fixes that problem.
http:// us.battle.net/d3/en/profile/Robbie-6838/hero/1376697 connect the spaces instead since i don't have 10 posts yet =P
only missing additional AR and possibly disc. i'd say 9/10 since the two things i mentioned are for survivability but i doubt you'd have a problem with that since 1, you can one shot white mobs and 2, there's preparation.
as for the comment on witching hour, after i input your stats on my sheet seems i lose damage.. 8% is variable and with higher damage, the value of 8% increases.. that and i like that it already has armor so all i needed was an AR random roll
@wizart
disc is unnecessary on chest since i could perma gloom if i wanted too.. i'm guessing this has something to do with gameplay as well, i feel that having more aspd allows you to kite faster and you get hit less - you also output damage faster killing enemies that get near you quicker meaning you don't use disc as much
no vit on boots seems a little odd to me.. i'd agree with the low HP but particularly on boots? hmm.. if that were the case, perhaps your pants should switch out MF roll with AR roll since you need resistance more than you need MF? hp isn't too much of a problem mp4-7(normal farming + key hunt) but they are a problem for me on mp7-8 ubers T_T hoping a mempo with CC would solve the HP problem as well because there's a potential 28-30 percent inc HP.
I have a crap yellow ring on me just for the interface dps fetish. Generally I have a SoJ equipped so that gives me in total:
+32% damage against elite and boss, +25% damage on spike trap and +14% damage to bola shot.
Edit: here's the diablo progress link for me
http://www.diablopro...n/16071240
Are you referring to a mempo with 6.0 cc as well? If we disregard the additional survivability provided by mempo and only consider DPS, it all depends on how each stat worth for your current set of gear.
Currently 1 Dex is 94.5 dps and 1% attack speed is 1830 dps for me, so 8% attack speed out weight 130 dex provided by 3 nat set bonus on any day. However it may be a different story for other people.
I chose 0 cc mempo rather than Nat helm based on the overall AR and additional life% that it gives me, which is extremely crucial for me to be able to tank elite packs on MP8 and up. But again I see cc mempo to be more of an end game item than cc Nat helm, dps gain from attack speed on gearing becomes ridiculously high when you reach a certain number of cc and cd.
Nice gear and AR - looks well balanced. Congrats on the upgrades.
I've got low AR, but with perfectionist and boar it keeps me alive. I get 18k health from globes as well which helps.
http://us.battle.net/d3/en/profile/pscyzo-1887/hero/3881000
I am looking for a new Manticore, but at moment AH dont have any with 1300 DPS... I am planning to spend like 100 - 120kk to buy a really good one.
Is it enough gold? It dont need have Vitality.
I cannot post URL right now, then there is my Battle TAG.
Walkrad#1289
I would rate a straight 8. I think that 30 disc is too little, but you have some pretty good itens. I would go for inna's chest with +10disc at least.
Here is my DH:
http://us.battle.net/d3/en/profile/Diegofsv-1594/hero/771257
I did changes last two days. =)
I changed Chest, Legs, Quivers, Manticore and ring.
I said innas chest but what I meant was natalya's chest with +10 disc. Like I said, pretty good itens, but 30 disc is a hard call in mp7+
I'm still thinking about changind my head for a mempo (but I need a lot of gold) or the ring. But I gotta say, 60 disc helps a lot in MP7+
I was looking at if i should drop my legacy nats to build more dps/ar/life or if i should keep it.
For either option what should be my goals on next upgrades.
My rare left ring atm is going to be a hellfire eventually so ignore that piece.
http://us.battle.net/d3/en/profile/GhostBusters-1680/hero/21093163
I commend you, fellow LegNat, for sticking with legacy Nat's considering all the naysayers. Do you really need Prep with LegNat's 4 pc? I never found a situation where I needed more Disc and Bat will increase your hidden DPS (more Hatred).
Try and get your crit chance up and consider using Perfectionist over Tactical Advantage; it might help you address your lower life number. Try and find items with a bit more Vitality and you have pretty good All Resist. With permaGloom/Smoke Screen I don't focus on All Resist as much with LegNat.
I like Loaded for Bear over Impale since it adds some area damage. You already know about upgrading your Emeralds; good to see you put the best ones in your Manticore first.
I think my profile shows Engineering with Sentries and Spike Traps; it's my Ubers spec. I know I should increase my AllRes but with Gloom up all the time and just doing MP10 Ubers I don't feel pressure to- maybe PvP will. Working on leveling my Paragon is my next goal.
Conform or be cast out.
My Demon Hunter: http://tinyurl.com/anufqzj Yes, THAT Analogkid- pissing off Hunters since 2007.
Work more on core stats or CD, CC and AS.
And yes, please, quiver.
My DH: musher boy#6115 (Not enough posts for link)
My skill build is askew b/c i was trying different things for different occasions, i only use prep for ubers/high MP key farming where i do need it for certain mobs.
With Tact. Adv i use it for paragon lvl'n on mp0-2 b/c i can fly thru those and finish my route faster, to where perfectionist isn't really that much more resist/hp b/c mines already so low.
I'm starting to think that i'll either just save all my gold for pvp, or build another sec that isn't legnat, that might be more useful for lvling/farming or ubers.
If we put gear aside, I'm actually quite confused about your goals in the general sense. If you wished to maximize exp gain since you are currently at paragon level 12, I see a 23% exp gem on helm and no hell fire ring. If your goal is to only farm items, I see 0 MF on your gear set. If you are planning to pursue higher MP for uber boss in the future (quite frankly it's the only end game content now), your lack of AR is going to cause massive issues.
Anyway here is my gear advice, should you wish to advance to higher MP (disregard the following if you only want to do MP1-3 comfortably, which your current gear is enough)
A dex vile ward, a standard inna belt + pant, after you get 2 piece set bonus from inna belt&pant, ditch your current helm and get a standard dex mempo. Reason behind these are to boost your dps and survivability at the same time without major investment. I would also suggest for a single socket 1200+ dps manticore with dex, but that depends on your budget.