Well, if anyone does have any questions or anything they want to ask I've got a 70 crusader and while it might not be the best geared yet (hit 70 this morning or the day before... can't remember lol) it gets the job done.
Much has been made of the Crusader being a "mid-range melee" class, but much of the footage I've seen has been using the Crusader's ranged abilities. How do the Crusader's melee powers compare to things like Fist of the Heavens or the like?
Much has been made of the Crusader being a "mid-range melee" class, but much of the footage I've seen has been using the Crusader's ranged abilities. How do the Crusader's melee powers compare to things like Fist of the Heavens or the like?
Well, in terms of melee abilities for a wrath spender until you get FoH you will usse Sweep attack most likely and that's likely to be the common melee wrath dump. With that said I do use Slash /w Zeal rune as my wrath generator as well as you can sort of count Falling Sword (maybe) as a melee gap closer along with Condemn as a AOE centralised around yourself causing you to go into melee range.. But as you can likely tell most of my damage comes from FoH but I really think that's what makes it "Mid-ranged". You have those long range abilities but you need to be in close to keep using them.
Saying all of that. I want to try out using Phalanx centralized build as well as a Sweep attack build for my Wrath dump.
PS: If you like standing in melee Blessed Hammer with Infinity rune (I think that's name of rune?) leads to funny when surrounded.
I've actually been enjoing Blessed Hammer since I unlocked it. The Infinity rune (or whatever it's called, I also don't remember. It's effect is a 50% chance to create a new hammer whenever a hammer hits a target) is really fun. And when I was palying on Normal the lightning rune was quite handy. Switched to Expert right before Izual. I'm still lvl 40, and to this point the Crusader is quite tanky. Though I'm kinda new to HC, and maybe I'm investing a little too much in survivability, since my copy in the Diablo fight was quite a pain in the @ss to kill - it soaked damage like mad. So if "mid-ranged" is not your thing, there is a variety of things to try. Though I was expecting it to be fully melee, and was a little disappointed at first. But I've found what I personally like (Falling Sword)and also have some ideas on what to try later. But it's in no way a monk with all his blinding speed and flurry of blows. Maybe the Zeal rune along with AS Law and some AS passives opens a possibility to be like one, but it's definitely not my case.
BTW what i REALLY like about the Crusader is his personality. Makes me enjoy playing him and laugh sometimes
So, I tried both builds I said I would. Didn't like either tbh :\.
Phalanx: The end guys would tend to hit into a wall too often and or they just miss guys. Missed the range and reliability of FoH
Sweep attack: Did more damage, possible canidate to switch to for boss fights with fire rune (though shield bash seems like a better idea if I'm going to do that...). Though again missed my range of FoH.
Back to FoH for me in the end *sigh*. Also Romique I found the clone a pain to kill as well and I wasn't specificallly going to survivabilty as I'm not playing HC (While I didn't die until post 70 anyways). Ohh and if you read this before you get to act 5... if a angel says get behind it.... DO IT. Otherwise you might get one shot on expert or heck even hard.
So, I tried both builds I said I would. Didn't like either tbh :\.
Phalanx: The end guys would tend to hit into a wall too often and or they just miss guys. Missed the range and reliability of FoH
Sweep attack: Did more damage, possible canidate to switch to for boss fights with fire rune (though shield bash seems like a better idea if I'm going to do that...). Though again missed my range of FoH.
Back to FoH for me in the end *sigh*. Also Romique I found the clone a pain to kill as well and I wasn't specificallly going to survivabilty as I'm not playing HC (While I didn't die until post 70 anyways). Ohh and if you read this before you get to act 5... if a angel says get behind it.... DO IT. Otherwise you might get one shot on expert or heck even hard.
Phalanx looks lame to be honest, especially the bowmen version of it. Still going to try it with Lord Commander passive, horse and bombardment, but I imagine this mix needs some kind of legendary set bonus or something, doesn't look viable "as is". What I like about the Crusader is that he is not squishy and can use any of his abilities in melee. Though spamming range abilities from melee feels odd (and I never did because of that). Not having a 30% damage reduction like Monks and Barbs do also feels odd. I got to Act V yesterday and killed Uzriel, but I don't think I've seen this "get behind" thing. I'll be on a lookout, thanks =)
because its pretty pointless to discuss at this stage when they are redoing 90% of his skills every other week. so you can't really say anything about the skills one way or another because they will change 100x over before the game is released. So really this whole section is kind of pointless until at least open beta
Yea not a lot is in beta and probably not many will get in since they decided to make it exclusive.
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I came here to expect seeing more people talking about Crusaders being the new class and all and well it's pretty silent.
Is it because lack of people with intrest in Crusader or lack of people to provide information on the Crusader?
Only a small amount of people go the beta so its understandable there isnt much talk.
Well, if anyone does have any questions or anything they want to ask I've got a 70 crusader and while it might not be the best geared yet (hit 70 this morning or the day before... can't remember lol) it gets the job done.
Much has been made of the Crusader being a "mid-range melee" class, but much of the footage I've seen has been using the Crusader's ranged abilities. How do the Crusader's melee powers compare to things like Fist of the Heavens or the like?
I've actually been enjoing Blessed Hammer since I unlocked it. The Infinity rune (or whatever it's called, I also don't remember. It's effect is a 50% chance to create a new hammer whenever a hammer hits a target) is really fun. And when I was palying on Normal the lightning rune was quite handy. Switched to Expert right before Izual. I'm still lvl 40, and to this point the Crusader is quite tanky. Though I'm kinda new to HC, and maybe I'm investing a little too much in survivability, since my copy in the Diablo fight was quite a pain in the @ss to kill - it soaked damage like mad. So if "mid-ranged" is not your thing, there is a variety of things to try. Though I was expecting it to be fully melee, and was a little disappointed at first. But I've found what I personally like (Falling Sword)and also have some ideas on what to try later. But it's in no way a monk with all his blinding speed and flurry of blows. Maybe the Zeal rune along with AS Law and some AS passives opens a possibility to be like one, but it's definitely not my case.
BTW what i REALLY like about the Crusader is his personality. Makes me enjoy playing him and laugh sometimes
What I like about the Crusader is that he is not squishy and can use any of his abilities in melee. Though spamming range abilities from melee feels odd (and I never did because of that). Not having a 30% damage reduction like Monks and Barbs do also feels odd.
I got to Act V yesterday and killed Uzriel, but I don't think I've seen this "get behind" thing. I'll be on a lookout, thanks =)
because its pretty pointless to discuss at this stage when they are redoing 90% of his skills every other week. so you can't really say anything about the skills one way or another because they will change 100x over before the game is released. So really this whole section is kind of pointless until at least open beta
Yea not a lot is in beta and probably not many will get in since they decided to make it exclusive.
If you want to arrange it
This world you can change it
If we could somehow make this
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Any good youtubers or streamers for crusaders? This crusader thread seems to be barely alive