Shield just slowed me down. I admit I tried it but hated it. Plus I didn't really see a damage reduction. I had a good shield to use. 23% block, 60 resist all, 93 stamina, 10% life. So it wasn't the shield.
I killed a lot faster using two weapons. Bought two good weapons with sockets.. placed flawless star amethysts in there... and with 800 loh total.. I was slaughtering most everything. Yes I did have to lure a couple champ packs to a corner so I could progress... and Act 4 gave me four corrupted angel champ packs in a row which I hated. The ones I lured were almost perfect affix ones where no one could beat them.
I went with inspiring presence because I have 60k health. Every tick I was seeing 400 health.. that was in addition to my LOH which during combat I was seeing 1200-1400 health ticks. Life per Second is very undervalued in the AH right now so it's an easy upgrade if you can't find LOH.
With the enchantress.. my stats are:
22900 DPS (27500 buffed with frenzy)
8296 armor (9481 buffed with war cry, 27200 buffed with leap)
580-630 resists (869-950 buffed with war cry)
2058 strength
1199 vitality
42% life bonus
146 life per sec (745 life per sec buffed with war cry)
800 life per hit
5% crit (no crit gear on)
50% crit damage (no crit gear on)
1.64 attacks per second (no attack speed gear on)
I spent around 40-50 million for my gear total. This is with various upgrades. I'm not counting the gear I sold when I upgraded so that total will be lower some but I didn't keep track of that. I'm guessing I spent around 20 million out of my own pocket for gear after selling my old gear off. The biggest purchases I made were my two swords and my helm (around 5 million each piece).
Sword and board players in theory should be spending more than me to progress because you absolutely need DPS in Act 3 and 4 to move on. Defense helps but if you can't kill the champ packs before enrage, then you are doing it wrong. So I'm guessing sword and board people spent a lot on their weapons and crit/crit damage gear. Or they got very lucky with someone posting an item without a clue on value.
Ghom, Siegebreaker, Cydaea, Azmodan, Rakanoth, Izual were all pushovers. Super easy fights. Champ packs were harder than them. DIablo was also easy but also a very loooooong fight. I had 3 min left on my NV stack before he died. I'm guessing a good 15-20 min fight. But I was in no danger of dying ever during that fight except when I faught my clone lol. Got stunned and almost died once but that was it. Killed Diablo on my first attempt. Also killed Siegebreaker, Cydaea, Azmodan, Rakanoth, and Izual on my first attempt as well. I was shocked at Izual because I remember him pre 1.0.3 when he was hard in hell mode. Ghom took me a couple tries which I had to change my spec for that one exploit. After that he was easy.
I'm just glad Blizzard changed it so Barbs don't need a shield anymore for the higher acts. So much fun frenzy away with two swords killing everything around you with revenge. Jumping into packs and hacking away at stuff.
I'm just glad Blizzard changed it so Barbs don't need a shield anymore for the higher acts. So much fun frenzy away with two swords killing everything around you with revenge. Jumping into packs and hacking away at stuff.
Agree with your shield-point, but still sad to see that no furyspenders are worth having. They are fun to use, but sadly rather useless in just about every build
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So wait, you spent 50 mil and cleared inferno without a shield?
A ton of people did that a long time ago while spending a ton less.
I was waiting for someone to bring up me clearing inferno post 1.0.3. Congrats you won.
and I spent 20 million (after selling off old equipment).
And it is rather easy to clear inferno even with shield builds spending 2-3mil total. (even cheaper, but gets boring/slow).
If you're lucky in the drops then yes. I wasn't that lucky as the only gear i'm wearing that dropped are my pants and my shoulders. It's not easy scanning the AH for those insane deals so you only spend 2-3 million.
selling your old gear or not doesnt really change the fact that your new gear cost you 40-50mil, it just means you didnt have to earn 40-50 mil but instead only 10-20 mil which doesnt effect the value of your current gear
anyways...im very interested, how do you manage to get +resist and + life per second from only 1 warcry?
edit: and why wouldnt the argument that you've done it post nerf be valid, lets face it, its been a pretty huge nerf
props on clearing it post nerf, but big props to those who did it pre nerf!
war cry gives +life per second thanks to the inspiring presence passive. I know what you're thinking.. that it bugged and I had two runes active. But that's not the case.
And yes it was harder pre 1.0.3. I was only into Act 2 when it hit. The people who cleared it before then had more time than me to play the game.. or got lucky on the drops.. or ran like hell to each boss skipping every champ pack... or a combination of those three.
What the was saying in my first message is that you don't need a board to do it. In fact all the act 3 and 4 bosses were light weights against me. Yes they got nerfed pretty hard. I remember fighting Belial pre nerf and he was insane. I had a few broken armors against him. I tried it with a shield and without and couldn't do either one.
If you played shield without any crit chance or crit damage obviously everything could be better than that. I'm not taking a shield for the resist, i'm taking a shield for the 10% crit chance which give me a huge dps bump.
If you take a shield over a second weapon for a dps increase, you're incredibly bad informed.
Cleared act 4 inferno as both sword&board and sprint/ww build easily with gear worth lot less then 50mil. Have to say that imo sword&board is more gear dependant then sprint/ww build where you get some cheap LoH offhand, get 40% crit and good to go. WOTB slaughter nearly instagibs most packs as sprint/ww, even when you pull couple packs at time. And tbh changing build after a long time proved itself as a best cure from boredom.
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I killed a lot faster using two weapons. Bought two good weapons with sockets.. placed flawless star amethysts in there... and with 800 loh total.. I was slaughtering most everything. Yes I did have to lure a couple champ packs to a corner so I could progress... and Act 4 gave me four corrupted angel champ packs in a row which I hated. The ones I lured were almost perfect affix ones where no one could beat them.
Here's my build:
http://us.battle.net...XRkP!bXV!ccaZcZ
I went with inspiring presence because I have 60k health. Every tick I was seeing 400 health.. that was in addition to my LOH which during combat I was seeing 1200-1400 health ticks. Life per Second is very undervalued in the AH right now so it's an easy upgrade if you can't find LOH.
With the enchantress.. my stats are:
22900 DPS (27500 buffed with frenzy)
8296 armor (9481 buffed with war cry, 27200 buffed with leap)
580-630 resists (869-950 buffed with war cry)
2058 strength
1199 vitality
42% life bonus
146 life per sec (745 life per sec buffed with war cry)
800 life per hit
5% crit (no crit gear on)
50% crit damage (no crit gear on)
1.64 attacks per second (no attack speed gear on)
I spent around 40-50 million for my gear total. This is with various upgrades. I'm not counting the gear I sold when I upgraded so that total will be lower some but I didn't keep track of that. I'm guessing I spent around 20 million out of my own pocket for gear after selling my old gear off. The biggest purchases I made were my two swords and my helm (around 5 million each piece).
Sword and board players in theory should be spending more than me to progress because you absolutely need DPS in Act 3 and 4 to move on. Defense helps but if you can't kill the champ packs before enrage, then you are doing it wrong. So I'm guessing sword and board people spent a lot on their weapons and crit/crit damage gear. Or they got very lucky with someone posting an item without a clue on value.
Ghom, Siegebreaker, Cydaea, Azmodan, Rakanoth, Izual were all pushovers. Super easy fights. Champ packs were harder than them. DIablo was also easy but also a very loooooong fight. I had 3 min left on my NV stack before he died. I'm guessing a good 15-20 min fight. But I was in no danger of dying ever during that fight except when I faught my clone lol. Got stunned and almost died once but that was it. Killed Diablo on my first attempt. Also killed Siegebreaker, Cydaea, Azmodan, Rakanoth, and Izual on my first attempt as well. I was shocked at Izual because I remember him pre 1.0.3 when he was hard in hell mode. Ghom took me a couple tries which I had to change my spec for that one exploit. After that he was easy.
I'm just glad Blizzard changed it so Barbs don't need a shield anymore for the higher acts. So much fun frenzy away with two swords killing everything around you with revenge. Jumping into packs and hacking away at stuff.
Agree with your shield-point, but still sad to see that no furyspenders are worth having. They are fun to use, but sadly rather useless in just about every build
I was waiting for someone to bring up me clearing inferno post 1.0.3. Congrats you won.
and I spent 20 million (after selling off old equipment).
If you're lucky in the drops then yes. I wasn't that lucky as the only gear i'm wearing that dropped are my pants and my shoulders. It's not easy scanning the AH for those insane deals so you only spend 2-3 million.
war cry gives +life per second thanks to the inspiring presence passive. I know what you're thinking.. that it bugged and I had two runes active. But that's not the case.
And yes it was harder pre 1.0.3. I was only into Act 2 when it hit. The people who cleared it before then had more time than me to play the game.. or got lucky on the drops.. or ran like hell to each boss skipping every champ pack... or a combination of those three.
What the was saying in my first message is that you don't need a board to do it. In fact all the act 3 and 4 bosses were light weights against me. Yes they got nerfed pretty hard. I remember fighting Belial pre nerf and he was insane. I had a few broken armors against him. I tried it with a shield and without and couldn't do either one.
If you take a shield over a second weapon for a dps increase, you're incredibly bad informed.