If I remember correctly they've in the past (not far past, quite recently) said that the Barbarian was the Only class returning in the Vanilla, they did however say the possability of the Necromancer returning in an Expansion (They did not say there would be just 1 expansion) existed.
I got the feeling reading the article that you linked had the context taken out. All things are the same in the eye of scrutiny.
The necromancer does have place for improvement, but not a whole lot like the Barbarian.
(They did not say there would be just 1 expansion)
This is one thing I'm hoping for... short of WoW (which doesn't count imo) they have only released one expansion per game... and an RPG such as Diablo... can utilize multiple expansions far better to continue the life of the product. I mean D2 classic was almost NOTHING like D2:LOD. They could have changed the skills more or added up to level 36/42 skills, but the game still changed drastically and increased the life of the game by a large amount.
The necromancer does have place for improvement, but not a whole lot like the Barbarian. I agree that the Barb was the character needing the most improvement... his abilities apart from whirlwind were very boring, and he wasn't overly well designed... The Paladin had the same problem, until they made Hammer rediculously over powered.
In regards to a possible return by the Necromancer... it would have to be different to the D2 version significantly... my favourite suggestion from someone so far has been a sort of death knight, evil warrior advocate. With a Poison/Shadow (caster) tree, A Bone/Summoning tree (limited emphasis on summons, and some classic bone spells) and a Curses/Torture tree (emphasis on physical damage, but more intricate than using brute force like the barbarian)
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I am a necromancer fan and i find it interesting that they will replace that class with the witch doctor but they couldnt think of a new one to replace the barbarian... just dosent seem fair as i was never really a big fan of the barbarian.
Aw waahh :(... lets design the game around what suits you... lol
Personally, I think they will in essence be keeping the same character concepts just changing them slightly and making new names.
Sure they wont have a "sorcerress" but im certain there will be a pure spellcaster (like a wizard, mage, conjorer etc...) with similar spells and skill tree concepts.
I really hope they have a character really similar to the Sorceress. I loved a magic class with 3 different elements to choose from. I had one of each tree and enjoyed them all. =)
What makes you think there not i hope they do paladin was always the most cominly played and the leader of the group. and if its cause Blizzard says so they always change there mind for example in order to become a death knight in Lich king u had to of had a level 80 paladin but now its just a level 55 character of any class, Also they might since Blizzard arent the real creators they just funded it the real creators are Flagship Studios creators of hellgate london.
just read my post on the previous page... never forget him and he will never be gone
Doesnt really explain why he wouldnt be gone but i will miss the necromancer but god help us if the paladin is not in the game honestly and i think they should add the feature to be female or male thats why i dont like playing Sorceress there should be Sorcerer sorry if spelling is wrong.
i think that what Blizzard should do is have the three other classes to be completely new but for the expansion have a fan vote (via their website) and have the top 2 or 3 out of the remaining 6 from D2 and put them in with the expansion just so they keep some of the fans happy.
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Doesnt really explain why he wouldnt be gone but i will miss the necromancer but god help us if the paladin is not in the game honestly and i think they should add the feature to be female or male thats why i dont like playing Sorceress there should be Sorcerer sorry if spelling is wrong.
im not going to lie that really didnt make sense....
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but god help us if the paladin is not in the game honestly and i think they should add the feature to be female or male thats why i dont like playing Sorceress there should be Sorcerer sorry if spelling is wrong
Aw waahh :(... lets design the game around what suits you... lol
Personally, I think they will in essence be keeping the same character concepts just changing them slightly and making new names.
Sure they wont have a "sorcerress" but im certain there will be a pure spellcaster (like a wizard, mage, conjorer etc...) with similar spells and skill tree concepts.
Lol :)... no lets not base a game around me since lets face it im not interesting enough
But still lets try and think of some good subs for the barbarian just for shits and giggels... look at the witch doctor he looks awesome for replacing the spot of the necromancer, hopefully that class will take that type of game play and put it at a whole new level.
Why not just add some WD original skills to the necromancer original set? It's not like they are doing anything too original...
Well I think it's because the summons/ WD unique skills make more sense on the WD. Like a WD breathing locusts onto things, the way mongrels look, or raising walls of zombies. Witch Doctors are known for raising zombies. Not that necros aren't it just fits a Witch Doctor more to me.
If the Witch Doctor was summoning skeletons I'd think to myself it should be a Necromancer skill.
Hmm, intresting. I heard that Blizzard North's plans were to make all new classes anyway. This comes close. I agree with Wilson said, the Barb was a terribly designed class in D2, and it would be pointless to bring the Necro back because he's pretty much perfectly designed in D2.
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(They did not say there would be just 1 expansion)
This is one thing I'm hoping for... short of WoW (which doesn't count imo) they have only released one expansion per game... and an RPG such as Diablo... can utilize multiple expansions far better to continue the life of the product. I mean D2 classic was almost NOTHING like D2:LOD. They could have changed the skills more or added up to level 36/42 skills, but the game still changed drastically and increased the life of the game by a large amount.
The necromancer does have place for improvement, but not a whole lot like the Barbarian.
I agree that the Barb was the character needing the most improvement... his abilities apart from whirlwind were very boring, and he wasn't overly well designed... The Paladin had the same problem, until they made Hammer rediculously over powered.
In regards to a possible return by the Necromancer... it would have to be different to the D2 version significantly... my favourite suggestion from someone so far has been a sort of death knight, evil warrior advocate. With a Poison/Shadow (caster) tree, A Bone/Summoning tree (limited emphasis on summons, and some classic bone spells) and a Curses/Torture tree (emphasis on physical damage, but more intricate than using brute force like the barbarian)
Fuck you, I'm a dragon.
Aw waahh :(... lets design the game around what suits you... lol
Personally, I think they will in essence be keeping the same character concepts just changing them slightly and making new names.
Sure they wont have a "sorcerress" but im certain there will be a pure spellcaster (like a wizard, mage, conjorer etc...) with similar spells and skill tree concepts.
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But it is good that we're getting new characters, If we just got all of the old ones I'd be disappointed...
just read my post on the previous page... never forget him and he will never be gone
Doesnt really explain why he wouldnt be gone but i will miss the necromancer but god help us if the paladin is not in the game honestly and i think they should add the feature to be female or male thats why i dont like playing Sorceress there should be Sorcerer sorry if spelling is wrong.
im not going to lie that really didnt make sense....
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Lol :)... no lets not base a game around me since lets face it im not interesting enough
But still lets try and think of some good subs for the barbarian just for shits and giggels... look at the witch doctor he looks awesome for replacing the spot of the necromancer, hopefully that class will take that type of game play and put it at a whole new level.
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Wise ElderWell I think it's because the summons/ WD unique skills make more sense on the WD. Like a WD breathing locusts onto things, the way mongrels look, or raising walls of zombies. Witch Doctors are known for raising zombies. Not that necros aren't it just fits a Witch Doctor more to me.
If the Witch Doctor was summoning skeletons I'd think to myself it should be a Necromancer skill.
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Wise ElderWell those things aren't part of their skill set yet but yes, Witch Doctors are known for curses. Voodoo etc.
I'm sure we'll see a good abundance of new spells though.