So I play all the melee classes primarily and I love how Crusaders get to use shields in all of their builds but I miss S&B being a viable option for Barbs. I was starting to wonder though, couldn't a S&B build for barbs using the namesake passive, and then items that work with block chance such as Blood Brother, Justice Lantern, and maybe even Coven's Criterion be a possible build option? S&B reduces damage taken and fury costs so you could maybe do a variant of Frenzy/Thorns using a shield? Any ideas?
Yeah I guess when it comes down to it S&B will always be limited compared to other builds when it comes to pushing GRs. I miss the vanilla days when the only measuring stick you had to compare against was A3 Depths clear times LOL
I wonder though...perhaps making a "challenge" (of sorts) during this season of creating a S&B build that reaches the highest GR. The Sword & Board challenge? Entries include build, gear, and video proving their best GR run? Might might things interesting this season and break the monotony.
The sword & board idea sounds cool for a change! Although, there aren't many exciting shields for Barb out there.
First thing that popped in my mind with the S&B idea though was a LoN fire build using Bash (Pulverize), with high attack speed and Wrath of the Berserker - although a bit harder to get perma Berserker without IK, and, well, LoN builds take some time to farm.
I could also imagine the Rimeheart/Freeze of Deflection dream, but I never managed to get a decent Rimeheart to check how it´d work at higher GRs.
In any case, we could always start with LoN build to tweak and experiment, and see how it goes. Most likely there´s someone out there already trying something similar as well.
I'll share something if I get to a somewhat decent idea/build.
I've been working on this. Seems like converting the standard frenzy/thorns LON build into a S&B build could work but I haven't actually given it a spin yet.
Well I'm sure my follower stuns some of them but yeah you're probably right. I need to switch out bracers (strongarms aren't proccing either) and then change my cube to something more useful. I have an ancient pair of Sescheron's in my stash.
UPDATE: I made some changes and managed to clear GR60 with relative ease. I truly think with a bit of luck in the way of gear I can definitely make GR70+ a reality!
Well this build revolves around Blade of the Warlord. Due to that fury consuming mechanic Aquilas Cuirass is really out of the question. I run Fury of the Ancients for the big fury boost that gives as well as running with the S&B passive for reduced fury cost. I also run with Zodiac so ensure near 100% Wrath and CotA uptime. The damage difference with CotA down is huge...not to mention the toughness of the rune I'm running.
I put together a LON bash setup that's working pretty well. I cleared GR55 so far and my gear is lacking in some areas.
Has anyone else given this a try yet?
Your link does not take us to any LoN Bash monk, but a LoN Thorns/Frenzy barb
Any chance you can set up the build on planner (http://www.d3planner.com) so we can see the idea there?
Thanks
So I play all the melee classes primarily and I love how Crusaders get to use shields in all of their builds but I miss S&B being a viable option for Barbs. I was starting to wonder though, couldn't a S&B build for barbs using the namesake passive, and then items that work with block chance such as Blood Brother, Justice Lantern, and maybe even Coven's Criterion be a possible build option? S&B reduces damage taken and fury costs so you could maybe do a variant of Frenzy/Thorns using a shield? Any ideas?
I personally could not find a way to make it useful. Barb with two 1 hander weapons immdiiately gives +130 CHD and more stats/everything..
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Yeah I guess when it comes down to it S&B will always be limited compared to other builds when it comes to pushing GRs. I miss the vanilla days when the only measuring stick you had to compare against was A3 Depths clear times LOL
I wonder though...perhaps making a "challenge" (of sorts) during this season of creating a S&B build that reaches the highest GR. The Sword & Board challenge? Entries include build, gear, and video proving their best GR run? Might might things interesting this season and break the monotony.
Any takers!?
The sword & board idea sounds cool for a change! Although, there aren't many exciting shields for Barb out there.
First thing that popped in my mind with the S&B idea though was a LoN fire build using Bash (Pulverize), with high attack speed and Wrath of the Berserker - although a bit harder to get perma Berserker without IK, and, well, LoN builds take some time to farm.
I could also imagine the Rimeheart/Freeze of Deflection dream, but I never managed to get a decent Rimeheart to check how it´d work at higher GRs.
In any case, we could always start with LoN build to tweak and experiment, and see how it goes. Most likely there´s someone out there already trying something similar as well.
I'll share something if I get to a somewhat decent idea/build.
I've been working on this. Seems like converting the standard frenzy/thorns LON build into a S&B build could work but I haven't actually given it a spin yet.
http://us.battle.net/d3/en/profile/Zaknaril-1820/hero/78836687
I put together a LON bash setup that's working pretty well. I cleared GR55 so far and my gear is lacking in some areas.
Has anyone else given this a try yet?
Nope, how are proccing apds here?
also these bracers will be better: http://us.battle.net/d3/en/item/vambraces-of-sescheron
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https://www.diablofans.com/builds/105329-2-6-7-rend-bleed-whirlwind-gr130
https://www.diablofans.com/builds/105301-2-6-7-fist-of-the-heavens-aegis-of-valor-gr110
Well I'm sure my follower stuns some of them but yeah you're probably right. I need to switch out bracers (strongarms aren't proccing either) and then change my cube to something more useful. I have an ancient pair of Sescheron's in my stash.
Thanks for the feedback!
UPDATE: I made some changes and managed to clear GR60 with relative ease. I truly think with a bit of luck in the way of gear I can definitely make GR70+ a reality!
Pretty cool! I will check the build! You gear is pretty bad so with optimized gear it would do much more damage.
You also need Aquilas Cuirass in the cube as well and more tweaks. I'll see what i can do
http://www.angryroleplayer.com/
http://www.youtube.com/c/angryroleplayer
https://www.diablofans.com/builds/105329-2-6-7-rend-bleed-whirlwind-gr130
https://www.diablofans.com/builds/105301-2-6-7-fist-of-the-heavens-aegis-of-valor-gr110
Well this build revolves around Blade of the Warlord. Due to that fury consuming mechanic Aquilas Cuirass is really out of the question. I run Fury of the Ancients for the big fury boost that gives as well as running with the S&B passive for reduced fury cost. I also run with Zodiac so ensure near 100% Wrath and CotA uptime. The damage difference with CotA down is huge...not to mention the toughness of the rune I'm running.
As soon as I have fury...it's gone!
I'll try to get some video captured soonish.
Nice! Will be cool to see!
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https://www.diablofans.com/builds/105329-2-6-7-rend-bleed-whirlwind-gr130
https://www.diablofans.com/builds/105301-2-6-7-fist-of-the-heavens-aegis-of-valor-gr110
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