For Now this guide will be short, to the point, and sweet. Enjoy
NOTE- Guide based on FROZEN ORB SORC.
Starting out- Why a frozen orb sorc…fire and lighting do so much more damage!….True but all monsters around andy are fire immune, making them a hassle. Second Meph has better resis to light then cold. Third lights damage has to large a range (1 single damage- 42000 or whatever). Fourth, because I only build frozen orb sorcs..
Note is very important to plan for your gear very early. The two popular builds are tal mf gear or skullder gear.
Why choose tal gear- More mf, more RESIS, more damage.
Why NOT choose tal- Costs a lot,
Why choose skullder- less expensive, get to use mf belt and ammy.
Why not choose skullder- High req, less mf, less damage, less def.
Stats-
Strength-(80-110) Enough for your armor/boots/shield.
Dexerity- (40-45) Enough for Oculus and baba.
Vitality- (130-200)
Energy(120-180)
Note there are two ways to build your vit and energy stats. Its kinda a either/or.
Add more to vit IF, your not a energy shield person, like to live!
Add more to enr IF, you don’t add a lot to warmth, or teleport is a major drainage of your mana.
Skills-
MAX these skills, FROZEN ORB, COLD MASTERY, ICE BOLT(Synergy of orb).
Warmth- I suggest 10-15 for a more vit person.
Teleport- Around 1-5 depending upon your mana regen.
Frozen Armor- Around 5-10
Rest of skill points dump into any 3 of the above. But I suggest Warmth, Teleport, Frozen armor in that order of importance.
Items- Tal Setup
There is no if/or for mf setup.
Helm- Shako w/ptopaz
Armor- Tal armor w/ptopaz
Shield- **Lidless, Rhyme, Milbregas, Splendor, **Isted monarch
Belt- Tal belt
Ammy- Tal ammy
Rings- Nagels unless u find a good rare mf ring.
Gloves- Chance Guards
Boots- War Travs
Weapon- Isted baba or Isted sword….or ***Oculus
Charms(not necessary)- Gheeds, any magic find charm.
All of this should get you between 450-630 magic find depending on perfection of items and charms used.
**- Using isted monarch will add about 40-50% more mf, but at a great cost to vit/mana, since you will need a xtra 50 str points to weild it. ***- Use oculus and lidless wall for tping and damaging the bosses, then switch to baba/mf shield to finish them.
Other Notes/ Strategy.
General- Make sure you use frozen armor, then teleport to your boss. Always have your secondary weapon/shield ready to cast orb.(You don’t want to press w, then right click on andy to cast orb but teleport to her because you forgot to have frozen orb selected.)
Andy- When you walk down the stairs, tp to her throne room, don’t go through the second room, theres no reason to. Start by clearing the carvers, afflicteds, and ghouls, this is easy. Next Send a orb up to attract andy down, get her to chase you, when she chases you she wont use her ranged psn attacks. Now its basically hit n run, run a couple steps, send a orb, run a couple steps send a orb. Does this while u basically run a big circle.REMEMBER TO SWITCH TO MF WEAP/SHIELD B4 U KILL!
IF you get psned and shes got a good amount of life left, tp and go back n heal…dying isn’t worth the trouble. Don’t take a chance.
Meph- Hes a bit harder, and cheaper. When you get to durance 3, tp across the map avoiding the council members, try n tp to the exact middle of the map (right in front of the act 4 portal where that bridge comes up from the blood). Next I suggest u make a tp b4 u go any further, he shouldn’t see you yet. The trick with meph is keeping your DISTANCE and using the same hit n run process. Tal helps a dam lot with his elemental attacks. Try sending a orb when hes moving, and moving when hes attacking, if you can get this timing down, your gold!. The only cheap shot he has is blizzard, it stuns u and hurts like a b*tch. Be prepared to die your first couple tries. I still die after months of mf runz. He is just occasionally to cheap lol. The key to meph is DISTANCE AND TIMING.
Other notes- Keep full rejuvies on hand, they are godly. Do ANYA QUESTS IN ALL DIFFIS, this will give u +30% to all resis. I also suggest using maphack, not only does it save HOURS it shows u where monsters r so u wont tp in a group of 50 J
Is this a guide for 1.09? lol. I think orb sorcs are useless in 1.10.
I'm sorry dude but i really dont like this build. A blizzard sorc or a meteorb sorc would be a better choice. I hope you dont get offended but i'm just being honest and i know many people will agree with me on this.
Skills-
MAX these skills, FROZEN ORB, COLD MASTERY, ICE BOLT(Synergy of orb).
Warmth- I suggest 10-15 for a more vit person.
Teleport- Around 1-5 depending upon your mana regen.
Frozen Armor- Around 5-10
Rest of skill points dump into any 3 of the above. But I suggest Warmth, Teleport, Frozen armor in that order of importance.
its 1.10 i use em all the time. I dont like meteor and blizzard for 1 similar reason....their stationary, monsters can simply move away and avoid them. This sorc is specifically for andy n meph....nothing else. Im sure blizzard and meteor are better for pvm. I personally have never ever seen a blizz or meteor mfer..fire sorcs have tons of trouble with andy, espeically whens theres a lot of monsters down there, since there all fire immune.
Um because ive never needed one. Andy is like taking candy from a baby and ive got plenty of xp with meph, hes not a problem. I stil dont like blizzard because u cant gurantee itll hit them...they move very very often especially andy, she chases you...and orb u dont gotta aim, the go freakin everywheres so your always hitting.
As for never seeing orb mfer.....ive never seen anything but orb mfers. Ive been with fire sorcs and i had to go help clear their bodies...kept dying. And i never ever seen blizzard used except during baal runs.
nothing is immune to me on my path.....nothing at andy and nothing at meph thats in the way....the lords r in the way back, you shouldnt go up there anyway. As for amount of time to kill andy...not a big difference, 10-15seconds and ur out.
Well since your a MF sorc you could use the extra mf. Also if you wanna mf other area's you could't really do that with a pure cold sorc. So thats why a merc comes in handy.
You still have't answered me about the merc. Why not include some merc information here. The extra MF and help will be useful. Especially for newbs with bad equipment.
yes true....but if they die...50k down drain. There just a hassel lvling and worrying about them staying alive. I use a merc with my hammerdin...he kills the leftovers and takes hits from baalwhen i mf baal...gotta love em there.
V -1.0
For Now this guide will be short, to the point, and sweet. Enjoy
NOTE- Guide based on FROZEN ORB SORC.
Starting out- Why a frozen orb sorc…fire and lighting do so much more damage!….True but all monsters around andy are fire immune, making them a hassle. Second Meph has better resis to light then cold. Third lights damage has to large a range (1 single damage- 42000 or whatever). Fourth, because I only build frozen orb sorcs..
Note is very important to plan for your gear very early. The two popular builds are tal mf gear or skullder gear.
Why choose tal gear- More mf, more RESIS, more damage.
Why NOT choose tal- Costs a lot,
Why choose skullder- less expensive, get to use mf belt and ammy.
Why not choose skullder- High req, less mf, less damage, less def.
Stats-
Strength-(80-110) Enough for your armor/boots/shield.
Dexerity- (40-45) Enough for Oculus and baba.
Vitality- (130-200)
Energy(120-180)
Note there are two ways to build your vit and energy stats. Its kinda a either/or.
Add more to vit IF, your not a energy shield person, like to live!
Add more to enr IF, you don’t add a lot to warmth, or teleport is a major drainage of your mana.
Skills-
MAX these skills, FROZEN ORB, COLD MASTERY, ICE BOLT(Synergy of orb).
Warmth- I suggest 10-15 for a more vit person.
Teleport- Around 1-5 depending upon your mana regen.
Frozen Armor- Around 5-10
Rest of skill points dump into any 3 of the above. But I suggest Warmth, Teleport, Frozen armor in that order of importance.
Items- Tal Setup
There is no if/or for mf setup.
Helm- Shako w/ptopaz
Armor- Tal armor w/ptopaz
Shield- **Lidless, Rhyme, Milbregas, Splendor, **Isted monarch
Belt- Tal belt
Ammy- Tal ammy
Rings- Nagels unless u find a good rare mf ring.
Gloves- Chance Guards
Boots- War Travs
Weapon- Isted baba or Isted sword….or ***Oculus
Charms(not necessary)- Gheeds, any magic find charm.
All of this should get you between 450-630 magic find depending on perfection of items and charms used.
**- Using isted monarch will add about 40-50% more mf, but at a great cost to vit/mana, since you will need a xtra 50 str points to weild it.
***- Use oculus and lidless wall for tping and damaging the bosses, then switch to baba/mf shield to finish them.
Other Notes/ Strategy.
General- Make sure you use frozen armor, then teleport to your boss. Always have your secondary weapon/shield ready to cast orb.(You don’t want to press w, then right click on andy to cast orb but teleport to her because you forgot to have frozen orb selected.)
Andy- When you walk down the stairs, tp to her throne room, don’t go through the second room, theres no reason to. Start by clearing the carvers, afflicteds, and ghouls, this is easy. Next Send a orb up to attract andy down, get her to chase you, when she chases you she wont use her ranged psn attacks. Now its basically hit n run, run a couple steps, send a orb, run a couple steps send a orb. Does this while u basically run a big circle.REMEMBER TO SWITCH TO MF WEAP/SHIELD B4 U KILL!
IF you get psned and shes got a good amount of life left, tp and go back n heal…dying isn’t worth the trouble. Don’t take a chance.
Meph- Hes a bit harder, and cheaper. When you get to durance 3, tp across the map avoiding the council members, try n tp to the exact middle of the map (right in front of the act 4 portal where that bridge comes up from the blood). Next I suggest u make a tp b4 u go any further, he shouldn’t see you yet. The trick with meph is keeping your DISTANCE and using the same hit n run process. Tal helps a dam lot with his elemental attacks. Try sending a orb when hes moving, and moving when hes attacking, if you can get this timing down, your gold!. The only cheap shot he has is blizzard, it stuns u and hurts like a b*tch. Be prepared to die your first couple tries. I still die after months of mf runz. He is just occasionally to cheap lol. The key to meph is DISTANCE AND TIMING.
Other notes- Keep full rejuvies on hand, they are godly. Do ANYA QUESTS IN ALL DIFFIS, this will give u +30% to all resis. I also suggest using maphack, not only does it save HOURS it shows u where monsters r so u wont tp in a group of 50 J
I'm sorry dude but i really dont like this build. A blizzard sorc or a meteorb sorc would be a better choice. I hope you dont get offended but i'm just being honest and i know many people will agree with me on this.
1-15 in warmth??? o.O 1-4 is plenty
Also why have't u mentioned anything about mercs? Mercs are a sorcs best friend .
As for never seeing orb mfer.....ive never seen anything but orb mfers. Ive been with fire sorcs and i had to go help clear their bodies...kept dying. And i never ever seen blizzard used except during baal runs.
Mercs are a must for a sorc. They can raise your mf and kill all the immunes.
Like i said, ive never ever used a merc mfing...so i cant really help people there, im sorry.
I dont know what you mean by Xtra mf.
Well with MF equipment mercs will add to your MF :).
Anyway sorry for spamming your thread.