Is there a way to see more than the last 5 reps you received?
Also, we should adjust the system so that when we do have a decent amount of reputation points, it shows up under our avatar. I know we have that little green box, that says we are "on a distinguished road" but that doesn't mean anything since everyone has that.
On other forums, the more reputation you had, the more boxes you had and you could definitely dip into the negative and have multiple red boxes.
It's a marvelous idea. But it's hard to get stuff like that done around here. A lot of the admins are focused on the new Wiki page lately. And our most active admin is really overworked. The current rep system though really is just so pointless. It definitely needs some features added to it.
I would like to be able to give the same person a second point or third etc., but I must spread it out more before doing so.
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i sense that a lot of flame wars would start if a system like that was implemented. i was thinking about it about a week back and i dismissed it because of that.
I don't think flame wars would start. I think it should be implemented because it's the best way to judge if a person's posts are worth reading or not. It means way more than post count and join date.
i assume thats quite a bit but i have nothing to compare that to, congrats on the high score m8 :).
but anyways why dont you think flame wars would start, you made a statement but gave no backing reason lol :\ ?
and best way to judge a persons posts eh? being the devils advocate here i would say that it would in the end boil down to if you agreed with the person or not. and then those who say always play the devils advocate (i do occasionally) would most likely have nearly no reputation points.
for example: lets say a random person says that the xbox 360 and playstation 3 are the best things fucking ever. now thats his opinion but i come along, a die hard pc fan (even though i own a 360) and say wtf thats bs pc is the best ever, negative 1 rep point for you!/or no rep point for you! (depending on how the system would work) if he had said that pc is the best ever, i would have been like bloody rights m8 it is the best. and he would be up a reputation point.
anyways in conclusion i am 100% certain that it is not just me who would hand out reputation points like that and so in my opinion at least i think it boils down to into a agree/disagree contest, so ultimately (again imo at least) the system would fail and a lot of good posts would go unread)
Simple solution would to be to make people with little to no reputation have the ability to only give a little or no reputation.
It's still the best way for a solid comparison. My logic is, that if someone is going to post some shit that a bunch of idiots are going to rep, they are probably going to post some even dumber shit that smart people will negative rep. There is some balance there.
Also, another simple solution is to not be dumb and rep useless/stupid posts. I'm directing this right at you since you already stated you're going to rep stupid shit.
anyways i suppose it was my use of hyperbole that you seemed to miss.. :\
anyways your simple solution doesnt work. for numerous reasons and i cant believe you cannot see them for yourself. (i shall cite one of them) I was on a forum once (isohunt) and 2 guys who were a really high level were able to give me a huge negative rep because they were a high level. I had said something about why i liked liking some movie or game or something and heaps of reasons why it was awesome. i then defended it against reasons why it wasnt. I immediately received -50 reputation, and then i got pissed at the guy who gave me -50 (because that basically ruined my account) and then some mod gave me -100 because i got mad at the guy who gave me -50 for no reason. Regular users are only able to give +1 or -1 so basically my entire account was ruined... i had been a member for 2 years and had over 1000 posts and +60ish reputation.
so all that went down the drain i wasnt able to use that account again because everyone automatically assumed i was some jackass, and so wouldnt ever respond to anything i posted.
anyways its not just me who would give rep points like that, HEAPS of people would.
*and i have little doubt that you wouldnt not give me a -1 rep point or however many your +40 would entitle you to, for this very post. just because you seem like the type person who gets angry when someone doesnt agree. I shall now quote what you said to me which was quite insulting imo, and would deserve a -1 rep. Because that sort of attitude imo, is not acceptable on these forums.
I'm directing this right at you since you already stated you're going to rep stupid shit.
*and finally, your logic is flawed, everyone is human and so no matter how smart people are they will still be susceptible to their emotions and so will no doubt negative rep or positive rep "stupid shit"...
*edit- this isnt isohunt but this is one example where people thumbs down for something they dont agree with. sure it wasnt a well thought out comment but it shows the possibility for someone to take advantage of someone else because they do not agree
I wouldn't give negative rep because you disagree with me on some topic, ESPECIALLY if it's a matter of opinion. I'm not petty.
I'm also not the one that said they would rep based on someones opinion on some trivial topic. You might not be the only one, but you just explained that you are the very reason why there will be problems with this system.
Lets face it, everyone already knows who isn't worth conversing with on this forum. If the system kicked in and your rep popped down to -50, why do you think that is? Maybe it's because that's what people already think of you so its completely accurate whether you, or anyone for that matter would like to admit. Some people don't contribute and others, and dare I say it, CAN'T contribute. If you're worried, why do you think that is? I'm not worried about my rep. You want a positive rep, earn it. If you deserve it, you'll have it despite all the idiots negative repping for shits and giggles. It's just a way to reward the good posters a little bit more and give the newcomers a good idea of who here is respectable. If it punishes the people with nothing useful to say, so be it.
The system works because it has it's own built in checks and balances.
If you know you're useful and your posts are meaningful, then you shouldn't be worried about it.
I'm not going to pretend I've followed your posts and actually know what kind of shit you say on here. Truth be told, I only look for a select few people's posts and ignore most of the others. Now, if I see something profound or useful come out of you, I'll be sure to keep an eye out for you. Hell, I may even back you up if you come to find you're arguing with someone who has nothing to say. Until then, at least you have something to work towards.
Nothing I said was meant to offend you. I'm blunt. I always have been. I call them as I see them and I'm not making exceptions. My logic is, if you don't want someone to think you're stupid, don't be stupid. How you accomplish that is up to you. Whether you do or not is completely in your hands, not mine.
movie or game i cant recall which as it happened 6+ months ago
*btw this will be my last post in this thread as i have already made my point quite clear and cant add anything further. the reasons for not adding this system should be clear by now but ultimately if you dont want to see it, you wont. so any further posts by myself would be a futile effort.
"To attempt an understanding of Muad'Dib without true understanding, is to attempt seeing Truth without knowing Falsehood. It is the attempt to see the Light without knowing Darkness. It cannot be."
He doesn't even understand his own quote that he's using to explain. Good stuff.
Also, as you can see, we are disagreeing but I'm not negative repping you.
*i couldnt resist not posting again
man my respect for you is dropping off the deep end... literally. First off its incredibly rude to talk about someone in the third person especially when you are around them or in this case when they are able to read what you said.
and secondly i think you might be able to answer your second point for yourself... just maybe...
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Your problem is that you seem to have 0 experience with the rep system. I suggest you visit a few where that system is in place.
That's how our system was. The more rep you have, the more influencive your rep is.
my head nearly exploded. did you not read any of my posts... iv had numerous experiences where this is implemented. holy crap equinox are you actually bloody serious....
One cannot argue with someone who refuses to see something that is right there. You deal in half truths, which you make up to suit your own needs. Your reasons are flawed along with your logic, you see only what you wish to see. I am still amazed every single time i come across someone like you. Each time i am awe struck by the ignorance of some people, their utter blindness before indisputable evidence and reason. You distort words and use words blatantly to instigate conflict. You attack the persons character instead of backing your claims with reasonable and un-emotionalized reason. I pity those who are blind and hope that one day grace will grant them sight...
It truly is sad that some people just dont fucking get it...
my head nearly exploded. did you not read any of my posts... iv had numerous experiences where this is implemented. holy crap equinox are you actually bloody serious....
Have you ever been an active member of an intelligent forum that uses the reputation system properly? For about, like, 3 years?
(isohunt doesn't count as an intelligent forum. Same goes for 4chan, porn forums, any large game forums such as gamespot, battle.net forums, and so on. I hope you understand that. Those forums are dumb by definition, regardless of what systems are in place)
You're like someone who went out on the internet, bumped into a hacked website, got a bunch of viruses, and came back to say "internet is bad".
And how many flame wars we already had on this forum? Flame wars are a part of any proper forum, just so you know. And they will occur regardless of a reputation system. If people want to be idiots, they'd find a way.
Also, it's up to the people what to read and what not to read. If they want to use a rep system as their guideline, it's their choice, their loss, or their gain.
And, trust me, the whole attitude of "omg you didnt understand my post" isn't going to help you. If someone doesn't understand or disregard what you wrote, there's probably a reason for that. Instead of harping on people with "you didn't read", stop and think and try to understand why may they have disregarded that piece of material. I'm tired of spooning everything out to you, honestly.
Also, we should adjust the system so that when we do have a decent amount of reputation points, it shows up under our avatar. I know we have that little green box, that says we are "on a distinguished road" but that doesn't mean anything since everyone has that.
On other forums, the more reputation you had, the more boxes you had and you could definitely dip into the negative and have multiple red boxes.
I think we should do this. Who's with me?
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but anyways why dont you think flame wars would start, you made a statement but gave no backing reason lol :\ ?
and best way to judge a persons posts eh? being the devils advocate here i would say that it would in the end boil down to if you agreed with the person or not. and then those who say always play the devils advocate (i do occasionally) would most likely have nearly no reputation points.
for example: lets say a random person says that the xbox 360 and playstation 3 are the best things fucking ever. now thats his opinion but i come along, a die hard pc fan (even though i own a 360) and say wtf thats bs pc is the best ever, negative 1 rep point for you!/or no rep point for you! (depending on how the system would work) if he had said that pc is the best ever, i would have been like bloody rights m8 it is the best. and he would be up a reputation point.
anyways in conclusion i am 100% certain that it is not just me who would hand out reputation points like that and so in my opinion at least i think it boils down to into a agree/disagree contest, so ultimately (again imo at least) the system would fail and a lot of good posts would go unread)
It's still the best way for a solid comparison. My logic is, that if someone is going to post some shit that a bunch of idiots are going to rep, they are probably going to post some even dumber shit that smart people will negative rep. There is some balance there.
Also, another simple solution is to not be dumb and rep useless/stupid posts. I'm directing this right at you since you already stated you're going to rep stupid shit.
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anyways i suppose it was my use of hyperbole that you seemed to miss.. :\
anyways your simple solution doesnt work. for numerous reasons and i cant believe you cannot see them for yourself. (i shall cite one of them) I was on a forum once (isohunt) and 2 guys who were a really high level were able to give me a huge negative rep because they were a high level. I had said something about why i liked liking some movie or game or something and heaps of reasons why it was awesome. i then defended it against reasons why it wasnt. I immediately received -50 reputation, and then i got pissed at the guy who gave me -50 (because that basically ruined my account) and then some mod gave me -100 because i got mad at the guy who gave me -50 for no reason. Regular users are only able to give +1 or -1 so basically my entire account was ruined... i had been a member for 2 years and had over 1000 posts and +60ish reputation.
so all that went down the drain i wasnt able to use that account again because everyone automatically assumed i was some jackass, and so wouldnt ever respond to anything i posted.
anyways its not just me who would give rep points like that, HEAPS of people would.
*and i have little doubt that you wouldnt not give me a -1 rep point or however many your +40 would entitle you to, for this very post. just because you seem like the type person who gets angry when someone doesnt agree. I shall now quote what you said to me which was quite insulting imo, and would deserve a -1 rep. Because that sort of attitude imo, is not acceptable on these forums.
*and finally, your logic is flawed, everyone is human and so no matter how smart people are they will still be susceptible to their emotions and so will no doubt negative rep or positive rep "stupid shit"...
*edit- this isnt isohunt but this is one example where people thumbs down for something they dont agree with. sure it wasnt a well thought out comment but it shows the possibility for someone to take advantage of someone else because they do not agree
I wouldn't give negative rep because you disagree with me on some topic, ESPECIALLY if it's a matter of opinion. I'm not petty.
I'm also not the one that said they would rep based on someones opinion on some trivial topic. You might not be the only one, but you just explained that you are the very reason why there will be problems with this system.
Lets face it, everyone already knows who isn't worth conversing with on this forum. If the system kicked in and your rep popped down to -50, why do you think that is? Maybe it's because that's what people already think of you so its completely accurate whether you, or anyone for that matter would like to admit. Some people don't contribute and others, and dare I say it, CAN'T contribute. If you're worried, why do you think that is? I'm not worried about my rep. You want a positive rep, earn it. If you deserve it, you'll have it despite all the idiots negative repping for shits and giggles. It's just a way to reward the good posters a little bit more and give the newcomers a good idea of who here is respectable. If it punishes the people with nothing useful to say, so be it.
The system works because it has it's own built in checks and balances.
If you know you're useful and your posts are meaningful, then you shouldn't be worried about it.
I'm not going to pretend I've followed your posts and actually know what kind of shit you say on here. Truth be told, I only look for a select few people's posts and ignore most of the others. Now, if I see something profound or useful come out of you, I'll be sure to keep an eye out for you. Hell, I may even back you up if you come to find you're arguing with someone who has nothing to say. Until then, at least you have something to work towards.
Nothing I said was meant to offend you. I'm blunt. I always have been. I call them as I see them and I'm not making exceptions. My logic is, if you don't want someone to think you're stupid, don't be stupid. How you accomplish that is up to you. Whether you do or not is completely in your hands, not mine.
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*btw this will be my last post in this thread as i have already made my point quite clear and cant add anything further. the reasons for not adding this system should be clear by now but ultimately if you dont want to see it, you wont. so any further posts by myself would be a futile effort.
"To attempt an understanding of Muad'Dib without true understanding, is to attempt seeing Truth without knowing Falsehood. It is the attempt to see the Light without knowing Darkness. It cannot be."
38 points... lol... that would be a joke on Nival.
Also, as you can see, we are disagreeing but I'm not negative repping you.
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Your problem is that you seem to have 0 experience with the rep system. I suggest you visit a few where that system is in place.
That's how our system was. The more rep you have, the more influencive your rep is.
*i couldnt resist not posting again
man my respect for you is dropping off the deep end... literally. First off its incredibly rude to talk about someone in the third person especially when you are around them or in this case when they are able to read what you said.
and secondly i think you might be able to answer your second point for yourself... just maybe...
my head nearly exploded. did you not read any of my posts... iv had numerous experiences where this is implemented. holy crap equinox are you actually bloody serious....
1. I knew you couldn't resist posting again. I word my posts the way I do on purpose. I made you a liar.
2. Don't confuse me with someone who cares what you think of them. Not me. Never will be.
What second point are you referring to? Did you get negative rep? Wasn't from me.
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It truly is sad that some people just dont fucking get it...
(isohunt doesn't count as an intelligent forum. Same goes for 4chan, porn forums, any large game forums such as gamespot, battle.net forums, and so on. I hope you understand that. Those forums are dumb by definition, regardless of what systems are in place)
You're like someone who went out on the internet, bumped into a hacked website, got a bunch of viruses, and came back to say "internet is bad".
And how many flame wars we already had on this forum? Flame wars are a part of any proper forum, just so you know. And they will occur regardless of a reputation system. If people want to be idiots, they'd find a way.
Also, it's up to the people what to read and what not to read. If they want to use a rep system as their guideline, it's their choice, their loss, or their gain.
And, trust me, the whole attitude of "omg you didnt understand my post" isn't going to help you. If someone doesn't understand or disregard what you wrote, there's probably a reason for that. Instead of harping on people with "you didn't read", stop and think and try to understand why may they have disregarded that piece of material. I'm tired of spooning everything out to you, honestly.
Yes, it does, as does your punctuation and capitalization.
Acknowledge the rest of the post and answer my question.
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