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Now have an increased chance to drop Legendary items on Torment II - VI

Call me stupid, but does this mean that Torment 1 is not having the torment-only legendary items drop chance and doesnt have act legendary items drop rates increased?? In that case, its really an outrage for HC players, which are mainly playing T1 for full loot table but increased safety

It means Torment One was set as the standard, and two through six are ncreased accordingly.

Since the patch dropped? Caches now can drop Torment-only Legs in addition to therir previous loot.

cache rate notoriously low, they've just doubled it, so only half as notoriously low.
Edit: No, wait, that's inaccurate, they've doubled the chances for a legendary to drop from a cache, and while that is twice as much,minute IS minute, just not as much...

Caches have never and i have never heard of a cache drop a Torment Only legendary. 2.0.5 (today) is the patch that allows that. as well for kadala to drop them.

The first change is to allow the caches to drop Torment-only Legendary items. The second is to increase the chance that you’ll find a Legendary item in Horadric Caches, including Act-specific Legendaries like the Royal Ring of Grandeur, based on the Torment difficulty. -Grimiku

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Hm. You're right. For some reason I thought the Torment-only thing had gone live in the last patch.

One thing that was confusing is that in the thread where this was initially announced, many people were saying they had already gotten torment-only items from caches. They could very well have all been trolling, but it's a possibility this was unintentionally happening before this patch.

i see the post from Grimiku about allowing Caches to include Torment only legs but I don't see it anywhere in the patch notes. I'm interested to see if this happened or not.

Well, thats all nice, but it still doesnt answer the initial question "does the legendary buff apply to torment 1 as well?" Becouse clearly, they said "Torment 2-6", not "Torment, 2-6 has more"

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• Horadric Caches
Now have an increased chance to drop Legendary items on Torment II - VI

Call me stupid, but does this mean that Torment 1 is not having the torment-only legendary items drop chance and doesnt have act legendary items drop rates increased?? In that case, its really an outrage for HC players, which are mainly playing T1 for full loot table but increased safety

Torment 1 IS torment, so it does have torment only drops, does it get an additional buff, no, 2-6 does, as you clearly state. Torment 1 sets the bar as it were, and 2-6 get more because they are harder. They also get more shards because they are harder.

Is this a language barrier?

If HC players want an increase in torment only drops, they need to put on their big girl pants and hop into torment 2. Which I'm sure they probably already do.

I guess its language barrier.

My point is - i have been farming that damned ring of grandeur for ages, never seen it drop while my friends already have several of them, so what im interested in is - will this patch buffs its drop rate on T1? If not, are fast normal difficulty bounties still superior for its farming?

I don't recall if RoRG is torment only, BUT speed killing is far superior to a higher level otherwise. If you can do normal at 5 minutes vrs torment 1 at 15, do normal, and kill kill kill...more drop chances easily.

But if you are after torment only drops, obviously you have to be in torment unfortunately. I have had notoriously bad drop rates from caches, but that said, I have two of the rings, but I was notdeliberately looking for them, hence I don't remember what level I got em in.

edit, I ice skate way better than I type...

maybe another way to say it is this way. Torment 1 will stay the same, and previously torment 2 through 6 was the same as torment 1, except that small bump per level. NOW level two through six will get alarger bump,again, with level one remaining the standard everythig is based on.

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T1 was never supposed to have its Cache Legendary drop rate changed and it seems that it hasn't had it changed.
Whether Torment-only Legendaries can drop from Caches at all is still somewhat disputed, see discussion above.

I don't get where you see that it's "still somewhat disputed". The only thing questioned above the likelihood of people in the past trolling when they said they got Torment-only legendaries from caches.

According to Blizzard: Caches did not drop torment-only drops. Now they do, if you get them in Torment. T2-T6 will give you a higher chance (of any legendary) than T1.

my assumption is that the patch notes have an oversight. they have been stating for months that torment caches (T1-T6) will start dropping torment only legendaries starting with 2.0.5. I would venture to say that this has been put in and that T1 will drop legendaries at the normal rate while including Torment only as well. and then T2-T6 will increase respectively in drop rates.

RoRG is not a torment only legendary, i have gotten 2 from normal caches. If RoRG is what your hunting normal is faster, if you want torment only t1 is 'faster' but potentially not as efficient depending on your gear (just trial test and see how many t1 chaches vs t2 vs .. you get and calc your legendary drop rate for 10/25/50/100 of each difficulty cache).

as far as the previous mention of people getting torment only legendaries. there have always been things that sneak through, and there is a potential for a bug. the fact that for a long time there were many BLUEs that didn't have a complete list or weren't confident in their list of torment only legendaries feed this a bit more as well.

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According to Blizzard: Caches did not drop torment-only drops. Now they do, if you get them in Torment. T2-T6 will give you a higher chance (of any legendary) than T1.

No, thats not true. Torment-only Legendarys can only be obtained at Torment-Rifts or from Kadala.

Sorry, my bad. I was just trying to consolidate what people had said in this thread. I was not making any claims of my own accord. I retract everything!

i still disagree, but only time will tell after people start reporting finds from caches or not. There has been weeks if not months of confirmations that Caches gained in Torment will drop Torment Only legendaries. but again, we will have to wait and see.

I tested and did 14 caches on Torment 2 just now and only got one legendary, the skeleton king shoulders.

Edit: On the other hand, a guy in my party did 10 caches and got 5 legendaries. 2 rings, 1 amulet, 2 scepter's.

i would like to state that i said this like 5 hours ago. i don't think it was a typo, it might have been a vague oversight on their part. but you should be able to get all legendaries in the game from kadala and torment caches