Whats a good class that can farm low MPs (1-3) fast and efficiently that isnt a Barb and doesnt cost an arm and a leg to gear out? Kinda leaning towards WD since I have never tried one but the same also goes for DH. Only problem with DH is I dont really like kiting and at least with WD the pets should be able to tank just fine at low MPs. Unless DHs just blow up stuff in low MP levels so fast that nothing ever gets close to them.
Same as best farming class for top end gear. Sprint barb is overpowered at all gear levels (except very poor gear levels where you can't even afford simple crit rings that don't cost much more than vendor price). Basically, if you have 200k gold or more, you should not have a problem to build a sprint barb that will farm better and faster than any other class can do with the same budget.
Not sure if 200k can get you to efficient act 3 mp0 farming with a barb, but if a barb can't do it with 200k then nobody can. In any case, even if you can't do very efficient farming with your budget, you should just give up DPS for the sake of being able to survive act 3 mp0, and that can be probably be done even with only 200k. Your DPS may be terrible but you will be able to kill stuff without dying, and every drop will be able to roll lvl63 affixes which means the number of quality drops (aka with possible lvl63 affixes) goes up at by more than 10x so as long as you take less than 10x longer to kill stuff you are probably profiting from slowly farming act 3 over quickly farming act 2.
Even in 1.0.4 I remember leveling a Witch Doctor and plowing through most of Inferno with most of his leveling gear except for a few pieces and the pieces I did buy I didn't spend more than 50k on in the gold auction house.
Haven't played him since the patch, but I would only assume things wouldn't be that much different. Plus I really do enjoy playing my WD and will probably starting working on his gear again.
The 200k is what I think would be minimum in 1.0.5 for MP0 act 3, which is all you need to do in order to farm XP and loot at a reasonable rate. To farm loot faster you'd need MP1 act 2, but if your paragon level is low I wouldn't recommend it regardless of your gear. Of course someone who just reached 60 for the first time and didn't waste any gold on worthless crap should have more like 700k with no farming done whatsoever. The 200k was just so nobody has an excuse for why he can't afford a sprint/whirlwind barb and needs to try other options. Especially considering that with any kind of budget your farming ability will never match that of a sprint/whirlwind barb, because if you can't equip a sprint/whirlwind barb properly, you definitely can't equip anything else either.
You don't need to be viable MP1-3. You need to be viable MP0. And again, if you can't afford to gear a sprint/whirwlind barb to do something, you defintiely can't equip anything else to do it with the same budget. Maybe you could equip a tank barb to do it, but he'd do it so slowly it won't be worth it in any way whatsoever. And besides, if you can do act 3 MP0 that's all you need to do until you can afford gear to farm other stuff faster (and even when you can afford the gear, you probably should stick for act 3 MP0 for a very long time, as the benefits of higher MP are few to non-existent while the farming time is greatly increased with each MP level even if you never ever die).
Saying you can't afford to properly gear a barb and therefore you're going to play another class is like saying you can't afford a car and therefore you're going to have to go buy a truck, which is in reality will cost much more just so you can travel around at a slower speed.
If going with Mp0 in Act 3 and obviously low Paragon levels for a while will I need to get MF gear or just skip it? I have noticed hardly anyone wears MF gear anymore in their profiles so I assume drop rates are better?
If going with Mp0 in Act 3 and obviously low Paragon levels for a while will I need to get MF gear or just skip it? I have noticed hardly anyone wears MF gear anymore in their profiles so I assume drop rates are better?
imho its better to be able to kill mobs faster than having higher MF but slow kill speed. if u do need to boost your MF i suggest to look for a high intel/socketed Sun Keeper if u r using 1h/mojo setup as it gives about 40% MF (i saw one in US:AH current bid 140k 13hrs left) @ if u r using 2h setup shop arnd for Grand Wizier (shud be much cheaper than Sun Keeper). i personally prefer Sun Keeper as it has % against elite as well. these 2 weapons can boost ur MF considerably while letting u concentrate on dps/ehp on the rest of your gear.
Nobody can farm MP3 efficiently with <1 mil gold or even 10 mil gold. You may be able to clear it with ease, sure, but you're not being efficient with the kind of DPS you can get with that budget. Heck, for experience, even 100mil won't make you efficient in MP3 (with any class, even a barb). But anyway, that's more to do with how people don't understand the inefficiency of playing higher MP rather than actual class balance. In all cases barb will always come out on top no matter how you look at it.
I'm in the middle of getting a decent MF set for my Witch Doctor. I'm Paragon Level 18 and am just buying some gear for very cheap (less than 50k/piece) and am going to try farm MP1. I'm not going for a crit build, just searching for Int/Vit/All Res gear with a high MF. And, combined with my follower and due to my Paragon Level, I can go down to 18MF on gear and get some decent damage dealing, yet survivable gear.
What's efficient in your opinion? Basically oneshotting everything so you can spend 90% of the playtime travelling?
Efficient is very well defined for me: To be efficient in MP3 you need to get more exp/hour in MP3 than you would get with the same gear in MP0~2. Simple as that. Generally, that requires oneshotting everything so you spend 90% of the playtime travelling, yes, as otherwise you're simply better off at lower MP level. You're not going to do that without at least 100mil in gear.
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Not sure if 200k can get you to efficient act 3 mp0 farming with a barb, but if a barb can't do it with 200k then nobody can. In any case, even if you can't do very efficient farming with your budget, you should just give up DPS for the sake of being able to survive act 3 mp0, and that can be probably be done even with only 200k. Your DPS may be terrible but you will be able to kill stuff without dying, and every drop will be able to roll lvl63 affixes which means the number of quality drops (aka with possible lvl63 affixes) goes up at by more than 10x so as long as you take less than 10x longer to kill stuff you are probably profiting from slowly farming act 3 over quickly farming act 2.
Haven't played him since the patch, but I would only assume things wouldn't be that much different. Plus I really do enjoy playing my WD and will probably starting working on his gear again.
Hahaha, nice!!
You don't need to be viable MP1-3. You need to be viable MP0. And again, if you can't afford to gear a sprint/whirwlind barb to do something, you defintiely can't equip anything else to do it with the same budget. Maybe you could equip a tank barb to do it, but he'd do it so slowly it won't be worth it in any way whatsoever. And besides, if you can do act 3 MP0 that's all you need to do until you can afford gear to farm other stuff faster (and even when you can afford the gear, you probably should stick for act 3 MP0 for a very long time, as the benefits of higher MP are few to non-existent while the farming time is greatly increased with each MP level even if you never ever die).
Saying you can't afford to properly gear a barb and therefore you're going to play another class is like saying you can't afford a car and therefore you're going to have to go buy a truck, which is in reality will cost much more just so you can travel around at a slower speed.
imho its better to be able to kill mobs faster than having higher MF but slow kill speed. if u do need to boost your MF i suggest to look for a high intel/socketed Sun Keeper if u r using 1h/mojo setup as it gives about 40% MF (i saw one in US:AH current bid 140k 13hrs left) @ if u r using 2h setup shop arnd for Grand Wizier (shud be much cheaper than Sun Keeper). i personally prefer Sun Keeper as it has % against elite as well. these 2 weapons can boost ur MF considerably while letting u concentrate on dps/ehp on the rest of your gear.
I made a barb that can farm MP3 for under 1 million gold.
Barb's skill scale best with budget gear
Check it out in the highlight videos on my twitch channel
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Barbs also have an innate 30% reduction to damage
Efficient is very well defined for me: To be efficient in MP3 you need to get more exp/hour in MP3 than you would get with the same gear in MP0~2. Simple as that. Generally, that requires oneshotting everything so you spend 90% of the playtime travelling, yes, as otherwise you're simply better off at lower MP level. You're not going to do that without at least 100mil in gear.