LOL build diversity in Diablo 1
LOL PVP balance in Diablo 2
You know nothing, OP.
Excuse me boy? Here we go again, yet another fool who has no clue what he is talking about. Please do entertain me and inform me of how unbalanced D2 PvP was.
JUST because I'm slow, and easily confused, are you telling me you think D2's pvp was balanced?
Um yea. It like a chess match, certain pieces had advantages over other pieces, but any piece could beat any piece on any given day. Given the skill of the players matched up, now there were bad match ups and good match ups, like in any great game. Just because you or anyone else in here was bad at the game, doesn't mean the game isn't balanced. That is like me saying Street Fighter is the most unbalanced piece of crap because Zangief has a grab that goes quarter screen, or that Ryu can trade SRK to U1.
You're 100% retarded if you think D2 PVP was balanced in any way. Enigma and other retarded runewords post 1.10 patch just made things worse.
So cmon then. Enlighten me on how it was broken or unbalanced. All you got is enigma? Really? Id advise you go back to MFing, more fit for your tals sorc buddy.
I did high level barbarian duels in USeast hardcore for years, so pretty much putting my money where my mouth is. If there was anyone around that even remotely did dueling on useast hardcore (high level) during 1.09, they'll know who my characters were. I was kind of a big deal.
That being said, enigma was just the tip of the iceberg. It allowed hammerdins to dominate dueling, along with synergies.
LOL build diversity in Diablo 1
LOL PVP balance in Diablo 2
You know nothing, OP.
Excuse me boy? Here we go again, yet another fool who has no clue what he is talking about. Please do entertain me and inform me of how unbalanced D2 PvP was.
JUST because I'm slow, and easily confused, are you telling me you think D2's pvp was balanced?
Um yea. It like a chess match, certain pieces had advantages over other pieces, but any piece could beat any piece on any given day. Given the skill of the players matched up, now there were bad match ups and good match ups, like in any great game. Just because you or anyone else in here was bad at the game, doesn't mean the game isn't balanced. That is like me saying Street Fighter is the most unbalanced piece of crap because Zangief has a grab that goes quarter screen, or that Ryu can trade SRK to U1.
You're 100% retarded if you think D2 PVP was balanced in any way. Enigma and other retarded runewords post 1.10 patch just made things worse.
So cmon then. Enlighten me on how it was broken or unbalanced. All you got is enigma? Really? Id advise you go back to MFing, more fit for your tals sorc buddy.
I did high level barbarian duels in USeast hardcore for years, so pretty much putting my money where my mouth is. If there was anyone around that even remotely did dueling on useast hardcore (high level) during 1.09, they'll know who my characters were. I was kind of a big deal.
That being said, enigma was just the tip of the iceberg. It allowed hammerdins to dominate dueling, along with synergies.
Right because WW away from Hammerdins was impossible. Zerk locking them was impossible. Ele druids totally got stomped by Hammerdins right? That is your best reason here? Your hacked and bugged ridden 1.09 HC dueling? Please try again, I can't wait to see what you got next ha.
And for this delusional guy haha:
"How do you create pvp balance in a game where a lvl 99 can hostile a lvl 50? or in a game that's so gear dependent that if you took 2 players playing the exact same class with the exact same skills and stats and same skill level. The more geared player would win. How is that balanced? "
- Well let's see, my level 29 stomped level 99's. So level means very little, even at high level play with high level gear a level 85 can stomp anyone.
- It is hardly gear dependent, I could buy charsi gear and totally ruin you and 6 of your friends at the same time while you wear the best gear you can find. Simply because you obviously don't know the game haha.
- Ok so 2 players playing exact same class with exact same skills and stats at same level... and the more geared wins? So I guess we don't dodge attacks anymore. We don't aim attacks anymore. I guess all of those #1 ladder spots I owned where I was lower level and out geared were a myth, good to know.
LOL build diversity in Diablo 1
LOL PVP balance in Diablo 2
You know nothing, OP.
Excuse me boy? Here we go again, yet another fool who has no clue what he is talking about. Please do entertain me and inform me of how unbalanced D2 PvP was.
JUST because I'm slow, and easily confused, are you telling me you think D2's pvp was balanced?
Um yea. It like a chess match, certain pieces had advantages over other pieces, but any piece could beat any piece on any given day. Given the skill of the players matched up, now there were bad match ups and good match ups, like in any great game. Just because you or anyone else in here was bad at the game, doesn't mean the game isn't balanced. That is like me saying Street Fighter is the most unbalanced piece of crap because Zangief has a grab that goes quarter screen, or that Ryu can trade SRK to U1.
You're 100% retarded if you think D2 PVP was balanced in any way. Enigma and other retarded runewords post 1.10 patch just made things worse.
So cmon then. Enlighten me on how it was broken or unbalanced. All you got is enigma? Really? Id advise you go back to MFing, more fit for your tals sorc buddy.
I did high level barbarian duels in USeast hardcore for years, so pretty much putting my money where my mouth is. If there was anyone around that even remotely did dueling on useast hardcore (high level) during 1.09, they'll know who my characters were. I was kind of a big deal.
That being said, enigma was just the tip of the iceberg. It allowed hammerdins to dominate dueling, along with synergies.
Right because WW away from Hammerdins was impossible. Zerk locking them was impossible. Ele druids totally got stomped by Hammerdins right? That is your best reason here? Your hacked and bugged ridden 1.09 HC dueling? Please try again, I can't wait to see what you got next ha.
And for this delusional guy haha:
"How do you create pvp balance in a game where a lvl 99 can hostile a lvl 50? or in a game that's so gear dependent that if you took 2 players playing the exact same class with the exact same skills and stats and same skill level. The more geared player would win. How is that balanced? "
- Well let's see, my level 29 stomped level 99's. So level means very little, even at high level play with high level gear a level 85 can stomp anyone.
- It is hardly gear dependent, I could buy charsi gear and totally ruin you and 6 of your friends at the same time while you wear the best gear you can find. Simply because you obviously don't know the game haha.
- Ok so 2 players playing exact same class with exact same skills and stats at same level... and the more geared wins? So I guess we don't dodge attacks anymore. We don't aim attacks anymore. I guess all of those #1 ladder spots I owned where I was lower level and out geared were a myth, good to know.
Ladder ranking was directly based off level/difficulty.
Unfortunately there's a lot of fanboys in denial (I laugh when I say this out loud in my head :D) willing to defend Blizzard till the end. They won't listen to any criticism whatsoever, valid or not. So they invented the word 'whine' and began to use that whenever someone said the slightest bad thing about D3. Retarded.
I don't think it's fanboys. I think the problem is the so called "whiners" and haters are refusing to acknowledge anything other than their opinion that the game is terrible. When in fact, there are millions who love the game. There are those of you who do nothing but go on forums all day and complain about how bad the game is, despite some of you sinking 60-100+ hours into it, and complain about how bad a company Blizzard is. Don't get me wrong, I hate Blizzard/Activision as a company just as much as the next guy, but shit, I got better things to do than tell people who don't give a shit why I think this game is going to fail (which it isn't).
You just need to get it through your head that people like Diablo 3. I acknowledge that some of you don't like it. I acknowledge some of you hate it so much that you are probably writing death threats to Jay Wilson as I type this. But the worst thing you can do is be arrogant and make an ass of yourself saying "diablo 3 is the worst game ever FACT YOU FANBOYS".
Irrelevant. How many hours you've clocked has nothing to do with his statement.
He tells me to "face it, Diablo 3 is a mediocre game", yet I profoundly disagree with him on the terms that I have clocked so many hours of enjoyment into the game. I don't think it's irrelevant at all.
LOL build diversity in Diablo 1
LOL PVP balance in Diablo 2
You know nothing, OP.
Excuse me boy? Here we go again, yet another fool who has no clue what he is talking about. Please do entertain me and inform me of how unbalanced D2 PvP was.
JUST because I'm slow, and easily confused, are you telling me you think D2's pvp was balanced?
Um yea. It like a chess match, certain pieces had advantages over other pieces, but any piece could beat any piece on any given day. Given the skill of the players matched up, now there were bad match ups and good match ups, like in any great game. Just because you or anyone else in here was bad at the game, doesn't mean the game isn't balanced. That is like me saying Street Fighter is the most unbalanced piece of crap because Zangief has a grab that goes quarter screen, or that Ryu can trade SRK to U1.
You're 100% retarded if you think D2 PVP was balanced in any way. Enigma and other retarded runewords post 1.10 patch just made things worse.
So cmon then. Enlighten me on how it was broken or unbalanced. All you got is enigma? Really? Id advise you go back to MFing, more fit for your tals sorc buddy.
I did high level barbarian duels in USeast hardcore for years, so pretty much putting my money where my mouth is. If there was anyone around that even remotely did dueling on useast hardcore (high level) during 1.09, they'll know who my characters were. I was kind of a big deal.
That being said, enigma was just the tip of the iceberg. It allowed hammerdins to dominate dueling, along with synergies.
Right because WW away from Hammerdins was impossible. Zerk locking them was impossible. Ele druids totally got stomped by Hammerdins right? That is your best reason here? Your hacked and bugged ridden 1.09 HC dueling? Please try again, I can't wait to see what you got next ha.
And for this delusional guy haha:
"How do you create pvp balance in a game where a lvl 99 can hostile a lvl 50? or in a game that's so gear dependent that if you took 2 players playing the exact same class with the exact same skills and stats and same skill level. The more geared player would win. How is that balanced? "
- Well let's see, my level 29 stomped level 99's. So level means very little, even at high level play with high level gear a level 85 can stomp anyone.
- It is hardly gear dependent, I could buy charsi gear and totally ruin you and 6 of your friends at the same time while you wear the best gear you can find. Simply because you obviously don't know the game haha.
- Ok so 2 players playing exact same class with exact same skills and stats at same level... and the more geared wins? So I guess we don't dodge attacks anymore. We don't aim attacks anymore. I guess all of those #1 ladder spots I owned where I was lower level and out geared were a myth, good to know.
Ladder ranking was directly based off level/difficulty.
You never played D2 seriously.
Called out.
Oh my god really? Is this kid really posting this haha? Seriously!? You honestly believe I am posting about that garbage leveling ladder rank? HAHAH! I can't even begin to describe.....
Seriously haha, just move, just keep on moving buddy. Nothing to see here.
LOL build diversity in Diablo 1
LOL PVP balance in Diablo 2
You know nothing, OP.
Excuse me boy? Here we go again, yet another fool who has no clue what he is talking about. Please do entertain me and inform me of how unbalanced D2 PvP was.
JUST because I'm slow, and easily confused, are you telling me you think D2's pvp was balanced?
Um yea. It like a chess match, certain pieces had advantages over other pieces, but any piece could beat any piece on any given day. Given the skill of the players matched up, now there were bad match ups and good match ups, like in any great game. Just because you or anyone else in here was bad at the game, doesn't mean the game isn't balanced. That is like me saying Street Fighter is the most unbalanced piece of crap because Zangief has a grab that goes quarter screen, or that Ryu can trade SRK to U1.
You're 100% retarded if you think D2 PVP was balanced in any way. Enigma and other retarded runewords post 1.10 patch just made things worse.
So cmon then. Enlighten me on how it was broken or unbalanced. All you got is enigma? Really? Id advise you go back to MFing, more fit for your tals sorc buddy.
I did high level barbarian duels in USeast hardcore for years, so pretty much putting my money where my mouth is. If there was anyone around that even remotely did dueling on useast hardcore (high level) during 1.09, they'll know who my characters were. I was kind of a big deal.
That being said, enigma was just the tip of the iceberg. It allowed hammerdins to dominate dueling, along with synergies.
Right because WW away from Hammerdins was impossible. Zerk locking them was impossible. Ele druids totally got stomped by Hammerdins right? That is your best reason here? Your hacked and bugged ridden 1.09 HC dueling? Please try again, I can't wait to see what you got next ha.
And for this delusional guy haha:
"How do you create pvp balance in a game where a lvl 99 can hostile a lvl 50? or in a game that's so gear dependent that if you took 2 players playing the exact same class with the exact same skills and stats and same skill level. The more geared player would win. How is that balanced? "
- Well let's see, my level 29 stomped level 99's. So level means very little, even at high level play with high level gear a level 85 can stomp anyone.
- It is hardly gear dependent, I could buy charsi gear and totally ruin you and 6 of your friends at the same time while you wear the best gear you can find. Simply because you obviously don't know the game haha.
- Ok so 2 players playing exact same class with exact same skills and stats at same level... and the more geared wins? So I guess we don't dodge attacks anymore. We don't aim attacks anymore. I guess all of those #1 ladder spots I owned where I was lower level and out geared were a myth, good to know.
Ladder ranking was directly based off level/difficulty.
You never played D2 seriously.
Called out.
Oh my god really? Is this kid really posting this haha? Seriously!? You honestly believe I am posting about that garbage leveling ladder rank? HAHAH! I can't even begin to describe.....
Seriously haha, just move, just keep on moving buddy. Nothing to see here.
LOL build diversity in Diablo 1
LOL PVP balance in Diablo 2
You know nothing, OP.
Excuse me boy? Here we go again, yet another fool who has no clue what he is talking about. Please do entertain me and inform me of how unbalanced D2 PvP was.
JUST because I'm slow, and easily confused, are you telling me you think D2's pvp was balanced?
Um yea. It like a chess match, certain pieces had advantages over other pieces, but any piece could beat any piece on any given day. Given the skill of the players matched up, now there were bad match ups and good match ups, like in any great game. Just because you or anyone else in here was bad at the game, doesn't mean the game isn't balanced. That is like me saying Street Fighter is the most unbalanced piece of crap because Zangief has a grab that goes quarter screen, or that Ryu can trade SRK to U1.
You're 100% retarded if you think D2 PVP was balanced in any way. Enigma and other retarded runewords post 1.10 patch just made things worse.
So cmon then. Enlighten me on how it was broken or unbalanced. All you got is enigma? Really? Id advise you go back to MFing, more fit for your tals sorc buddy.
I did high level barbarian duels in USeast hardcore for years, so pretty much putting my money where my mouth is. If there was anyone around that even remotely did dueling on useast hardcore (high level) during 1.09, they'll know who my characters were. I was kind of a big deal.
That being said, enigma was just the tip of the iceberg. It allowed hammerdins to dominate dueling, along with synergies.
Right because WW away from Hammerdins was impossible. Zerk locking them was impossible. Ele druids totally got stomped by Hammerdins right? That is your best reason here? Your hacked and bugged ridden 1.09 HC dueling? Please try again, I can't wait to see what you got next ha.
And for this delusional guy haha:
"How do you create pvp balance in a game where a lvl 99 can hostile a lvl 50? or in a game that's so gear dependent that if you took 2 players playing the exact same class with the exact same skills and stats and same skill level. The more geared player would win. How is that balanced? "
- Well let's see, my level 29 stomped level 99's. So level means very little, even at high level play with high level gear a level 85 can stomp anyone.
- It is hardly gear dependent, I could buy charsi gear and totally ruin you and 6 of your friends at the same time while you wear the best gear you can find. Simply because you obviously don't know the game haha.
- Ok so 2 players playing exact same class with exact same skills and stats at same level... and the more geared wins? So I guess we don't dodge attacks anymore. We don't aim attacks anymore. I guess all of those #1 ladder spots I owned where I was lower level and out geared were a myth, good to know.
Ladder ranking was directly based off level/difficulty.
You never played D2 seriously.
Called out.
Oh my god really? Is this kid really posting this haha? Seriously!? You honestly believe I am posting about that garbage leveling ladder rank? HAHAH! I can't even begin to describe.....
Seriously haha, just move, just keep on moving buddy. Nothing to see here.
Go away. No one likes you.
Oh no! No one likes me!!! What will I ever do with myself? Please, I beg you. Teach me how to be liked. I don't think I can live in this world anymore with no one liking me!!
You guys are tired of the fans putting forth their fansupport on Diablofans?
Oh god, the outrage!
There is a fine line between a fan and a fanboy.
These guys that are just blindly defending blizzard are like justin bieber fans.
Real fans are able to see through the bullshit and provide constructive criticism when needed. And based on all the disappointment from real fans it's needed.
Please Adon and the other guy, cut some of your quotes chain at one point Oo
I must be insane or something, because I actually like this game.
I have very few faults with it. Hmm... time to go check myself into somewhere with men in white coats judging by this topic.
Well like some people will defend it while completly ignoring its faults, some haters will say its the worst game ever. That's just subjectivity at its best.
I like the game, its a great game compared to "other games". But too many things are lacking imo currently to make it the game of the decade (or whatever). But things are not lost yet, they still have patches and a first expansion to recalibrate (if they aknowledge problems and try to fix them). I just lost some faith lately in the dev team though (too long a wait for some of the blatant faults/balance of the game).
Honestly. I'm coming back to read this after however long.
And I know it's Diablo "FANS" and all.
But here it definately seems that the majority of people like the game.
So, whoever's been freaking out for 8 pages about the vocal minority being all negative...
I don't know.
But this game isn't Diablo. It wasn't even finished...Honestly. I don't think that's even debateable. It's a piece of garbage. I've liked some games at first because I liked their predecessors. Until I took a step back to see, that it really sucked.
It'll come.
***PVP***
I remember making up character classes with their own gear. And not being able to kill Anderial Act 1 Hell. But they did fine in PvP. So that's what I remember most about PvP from Diablo 2. That you really could just hop in there and have fun.
Right because WW away from Hammerdins was impossible. Zerk locking them was impossible. Ele druids totally got stomped by Hammerdins right? That is your best reason here? Your hacked and bugged ridden 1.09 HC dueling? Please try again, I can't wait to see what you got next ha.
And for this delusional guy haha:
"How do you create pvp balance in a game where a lvl 99 can hostile a lvl 50? or in a game that's so gear dependent that if you took 2 players playing the exact same class with the exact same skills and stats and same skill level. The more geared player would win. How is that balanced? "
- Well let's see, my level 29 stomped level 99's. So level means very little, even at high level play with high level gear a level 85 can stomp anyone.
- It is hardly gear dependent, I could buy charsi gear and totally ruin you and 6 of your friends at the same time while you wear the best gear you can find. Simply because you obviously don't know the game haha.
- Ok so 2 players playing exact same class with exact same skills and stats at same level... and the more geared wins? So I guess we don't dodge attacks anymore. We don't aim attacks anymore. I guess all of those #1 ladder spots I owned where I was lower level and out geared were a myth, good to know.
Ladder ranking was directly based off level/difficulty.
You never played D2 seriously.
Called out.
Oh my god really? Is this kid really posting this haha? Seriously!? You honestly believe I am posting about that garbage leveling ladder rank? HAHAH! I can't even begin to describe.....
Seriously haha, just move, just keep on moving buddy. Nothing to see here.
lol
Bitch please, I have played more D2 then you could ever imagine, I was better at PvP/PK in it then you ever were. (What was your character name? Screen name? East? West? I got a few people here wondering who you are, saying you "were kind of a big deal", roflol.)
You are just mad because you got caught lying about it like a little try hard. (anyone who has EVER been on Ladder in D2 understands how it works, you obviously do not.)
Keep failing so hard at life that you need to make up achivements in a video game to save face.
I haven’t seen many valid points in this thread that can't be changed by patches and that people can't assume a game is perfect from day one. There also have been some huge arguments about whose penis is smaller.
The main change that can't be fixed is how higher item levels will always be king unless the fundamentally change itemization and difficulty progression from scratch (they turned it into a WoW approach rather than traditional Diablo itemization). The game wasn't ready on some aspects and was pushed probably due to hype. IMO if they had delayed release date talks and sharing information there wouldn't have been so much QQ that possibly pushed this game out sooner rather than later.
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I did high level barbarian duels in USeast hardcore for years, so pretty much putting my money where my mouth is. If there was anyone around that even remotely did dueling on useast hardcore (high level) during 1.09, they'll know who my characters were. I was kind of a big deal.
That being said, enigma was just the tip of the iceberg. It allowed hammerdins to dominate dueling, along with synergies.
Right, my 130+ hours of enjoyment are a complete lie.
You know what. You should face it. You're a mediocre game. I give you a 4.0. Out of 10. You were a disappointment, InfidelMan.
And for this delusional guy haha:
"How do you create pvp balance in a game where a lvl 99 can hostile a lvl 50? or in a game that's so gear dependent that if you took 2 players playing the exact same class with the exact same skills and stats and same skill level. The more geared player would win. How is that balanced? "
- Well let's see, my level 29 stomped level 99's. So level means very little, even at high level play with high level gear a level 85 can stomp anyone.
- It is hardly gear dependent, I could buy charsi gear and totally ruin you and 6 of your friends at the same time while you wear the best gear you can find. Simply because you obviously don't know the game haha.
- Ok so 2 players playing exact same class with exact same skills and stats at same level... and the more geared wins? So I guess we don't dodge attacks anymore. We don't aim attacks anymore. I guess all of those #1 ladder spots I owned where I was lower level and out geared were a myth, good to know.
Ladder ranking was directly based off level/difficulty.
You never played D2 seriously.
Called out.
I don't think it's fanboys. I think the problem is the so called "whiners" and haters are refusing to acknowledge anything other than their opinion that the game is terrible. When in fact, there are millions who love the game. There are those of you who do nothing but go on forums all day and complain about how bad the game is, despite some of you sinking 60-100+ hours into it, and complain about how bad a company Blizzard is. Don't get me wrong, I hate Blizzard/Activision as a company just as much as the next guy, but shit, I got better things to do than tell people who don't give a shit why I think this game is going to fail (which it isn't).
You just need to get it through your head that people like Diablo 3. I acknowledge that some of you don't like it. I acknowledge some of you hate it so much that you are probably writing death threats to Jay Wilson as I type this. But the worst thing you can do is be arrogant and make an ass of yourself saying "diablo 3 is the worst game ever FACT YOU FANBOYS".
He tells me to "face it, Diablo 3 is a mediocre game", yet I profoundly disagree with him on the terms that I have clocked so many hours of enjoyment into the game. I don't think it's irrelevant at all.
I have very few faults with it. Hmm... time to go check myself into somewhere with men in white coats judging by this topic.
And may the odds be ever in your favour.
Emmo#2406
You're ridiculous. I've made millions crafting 6 stat helms.
xoxoxo
edit: the title says "the reason we're mad". That's incorrect because a lot of us are pretty happy.
Seriously haha, just move, just keep on moving buddy. Nothing to see here.
Go away. No one likes you.
There is a fine line between a fan and a fanboy.
These guys that are just blindly defending blizzard are like justin bieber fans.
Real fans are able to see through the bullshit and provide constructive criticism when needed. And based on all the disappointment from real fans it's needed.
Well like some people will defend it while completly ignoring its faults, some haters will say its the worst game ever. That's just subjectivity at its best.
I like the game, its a great game compared to "other games". But too many things are lacking imo currently to make it the game of the decade (or whatever). But things are not lost yet, they still have patches and a first expansion to recalibrate (if they aknowledge problems and try to fix them). I just lost some faith lately in the dev team though (too long a wait for some of the blatant faults/balance of the game).
And I know it's Diablo "FANS" and all.
But here it definately seems that the majority of people like the game.
So, whoever's been freaking out for 8 pages about the vocal minority being all negative...
I don't know.
But this game isn't Diablo. It wasn't even finished...Honestly. I don't think that's even debateable. It's a piece of garbage. I've liked some games at first because I liked their predecessors. Until I took a step back to see, that it really sucked.
It'll come.
***PVP***
I remember making up character classes with their own gear. And not being able to kill Anderial Act 1 Hell. But they did fine in PvP. So that's what I remember most about PvP from Diablo 2. That you really could just hop in there and have fun.
lol
Bitch please, I have played more D2 then you could ever imagine, I was better at PvP/PK in it then you ever were. (What was your character name? Screen name? East? West? I got a few people here wondering who you are, saying you "were kind of a big deal", roflol.)
You are just mad because you got caught lying about it like a little try hard. (anyone who has EVER been on Ladder in D2 understands how it works, you obviously do not.)
Keep failing so hard at life that you need to make up achivements in a video game to save face.
You are a joke kiddo.
Where the hell have you been looking?
I'm seeing items I want for over 5 million gold.
Super low my ass.
The main change that can't be fixed is how higher item levels will always be king unless the fundamentally change itemization and difficulty progression from scratch (they turned it into a WoW approach rather than traditional Diablo itemization). The game wasn't ready on some aspects and was pushed probably due to hype. IMO if they had delayed release date talks and sharing information there wouldn't have been so much QQ that possibly pushed this game out sooner rather than later.