I didn't even know Blizzard had some kind of return guarantee, it's pretty lame that you played this game for more hours than most games actually last and still somehow got your money back but I guess that's the offer Blizzard went with.
Personally I love the game and as a long-time Diablo player it kind of annoys me when people claim to be the same and then talk about how D3 "ruined the series" or some garbage. If you don't like the game that's cool, you don't have to like what I like. But can't see how D3 isn't pretty much just a refinement of D2.
Why do you people keep using that argument. Just because that happened to Diablo 2 twelve years ago doesn't justify Diablo 3's bad release? It's so annoying to hear that.
All of your post is wrong but I just wanted to address this particular part of it:
1) Pretty much every game ever has had problems at launch, especially online ones. It's hard. You think you can do better, you make a game.
2) I played since launch and had bugs, disconnects, etc... but you know what when you compare how much worked to how much didn't it really wasn't a bad launch at all. People complaining about the launch have no perspective whatsoever. Not everything worked 100% from the second it went live and there was some downtime, boo freakin hoo.
I didn't even know Blizzard had some kind of return guarantee, it's pretty lame that you played this game for more hours than most games actually last and still somehow got your money back but I guess that's the offer Blizzard went with.
Personally I love the game and as a long-time Diablo player it kind of annoys me when people claim to be the same and then talk about how D3 "ruined the series" or some garbage. If you don't like the game that's cool, you don't have to like what I like. But can't see how D3 isn't pretty much just a refinement of D2.
Why do you people keep using that argument. Just because that happened to Diablo 2 twelve years ago doesn't justify Diablo 3's bad release? It's so annoying to hear that.
All of your post is wrong but I just wanted to address this particular part of it:
1) Pretty much every game ever has had problems at launch, especially online ones. It's hard. You think you can do better, you make a game.
2) I played since launch and had bugs, disconnects, etc... but you know what when you compare how much worked to how much didn't it really wasn't a bad launch at all. People complaining about the launch have no perspective whatsoever. Not everything worked 100% from the second it went live and there was some downtime, boo freakin hoo.
D2's skills were funneled into a handful of cookie cutter builds that became as commonplace and repetitive as the rune-worded gear they sported.
A "shit-ton of builds"? How many ways to make a smiter, a Hammer, a bliz sorc? How many melee sorcs did you see winning any duels? How many ways to make a sin that actually fucking worked for anything but a hearty "lol"?
As great as D2 was, it had become funneled into a corner, the gear, the builds....cookie cutter madness. The initial design of D3 shows us some issues. But it also shows us that Blizzard intends to avoid the pitfalls of monotony that we saw with D2.
Hey wow, high five for people who ACTUALLY remember D2! Going by the forums it's a lot less than 1.9% of all players
Anyway heres a couple of truly good ARPGs that I've (so far) enjoyed more than diablo 3:
Titan quest: immortal throne
Nox
Torchlight
Diablo 2 + LoD
Now this is all about opinions, you might believe that Diablo 3 is the best ever made, but at the same time, until you provide a comparison between the other games in the genre you've played, you've just said you prefer the only game you played over a bucketload of great games you chose to ignore.
And mind you, I don't think D3 will last 12 years.
I strongly disagree. You must be overreacting. Let's compare each game:
Titan quest: immortal throne: I just installed it again last month to wait for D3 to come out. The game is boring as hell. It takes forever to get from a quest to another, the whole game lasts forever because of the time you spend walking from town to town. The monsters are just lame, you go on into killing boars, spiders, murlocs and other animals for the whole game. And the number of skills and specializations are just insane in a world you can only successfully combine so little of them that you had to make a 10 hour research before making your character and keep a paper with the skills you should take. But don't get me wrong, it was the best Diablo clone ever, but not even close to any Diablo.
Nox: I am surprised anyone else played this game. It was quite fun actually, but it remembers a lot more the Ultima franchise than Diablo's. I even remembers more Baldur's Gate then Diablo. 0 replaybility also takes it toll. No online coop gaming whatsoever too. Just can't compare them. But I did only play it once too.
Torchlight: You're kidding right? Torchlight was born in the D3 first gameplay movie. They've copied EVERYTHING they could from the Barbarian video and made a game that is incredibly flawed in many aspects such as story, balance, skill setting, items, story, pretty much everything. It is quite fun too, but the endless flaws make you give up on believing in the mechanics.
Diablo 2 + LoD have already been discussed. They were great. But they're old. There are MANY aspects that D3 improved so much that if you play D2 again you won't know how you could manage to play it those days. Useless items like throwable potions, stamina, stupid stats assignment, almost no way to play different skills from the cookie cutter builds, painfully trading in spamming trade channels and games, no private loot so quicker player got them all, annoying to pick gold manually, shallow story (D3 isn't great, but D2 story is shallow and D1 is a joke in story), everyone did boss runs on and on all the time, everytime the same quests that almost everyone of them just got skipped (now we have random events), lots of hacks and dupes made the economy incredibly dull, people complain about AH making the game easy but everyone of them got Enigma armors for quite nothing in D2. I also remember making like 1 thousand Nightmare Meph runs before I got to Hell to get items to trade or for myself and people complains that you have to farm a lot to pass through Inferno, and only Sorcs and Necros could MF, may I add, because of the melee dependency of gear while magic classes didn't at all... I could go on, there are lots of improvements on D3.
Also I could add the Dungeon Siege franchise. The 1 got me for some time, but when I was controlling about 5 characters all the time the game just seemed too complicated. Dungeon Siege 3 is so bad that I felt to make a sacrifice to play it. Stopped just after getting the second level.
So, yes, D3 is probably the best ARPG ever made if you analyze it without passion. But people are so craved in their romantic memories of D2 and D1 that they would never see a game that lived to their fake expectations. Have you tried to play D1 in the last 5 years? The game doesn't even keep attacking if you hold the mouse button!
I wonder why people aren't enjoying inferno. Things that are VERY HARD = more challenge. The challenge makes a game fun to me... If it was so easy, no one would play the game!
I say good riddance. And the same goes for all the other spineless people out there who are asking for refunds after hundreds of hours spent playing the game.
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"Fear is the mind killer. Fear is the small death that brings total obliteration."
So the next time I order a meal at a restaurant and I don't like how it tastes, I'll ask for a refund then?
Not only do you have the audacity to ask for a refund on something you have been using for 65 hours, you go to the forums bragging about it? Please realise that this was a huge accomodation from Blizzard and most other companies would laugh at your request.
Anyways, I'm sorry you didn't like the game. I for one love it.
i got my refund also back. 60€ for this shit wasnt worth. and yeah i played ~100h, was end act 3 inferno and sold my items and gold for 90€. so what now fanboys?
Like so many others, I say good riddance, don't let the door hit you on the way out.
I proudly call myself a fan, so thanks for that. This game is better of without you, so now you can go play whatever game you like, and we get to play D3 without you dragging us all down.
This game is a good step forward for ARPGs and the best out so far, and from here it will just get better. If you don't agree, InfidelMan and Klusterboy will show you the way to the door.
Be happy, guys. The twats are fucking off, one by one - making these forums a better place.
Interesting though how "the twats" are not the ones throwing childish insults around.
Well if you'd look at some of the anti-D3 posts, including some of the remarks in this thread, being called a Blizz fanboy and being referred to as blind and stupid because you're enjoying the game hasn't been a fun experience. "The twats" have been eagerly throwing insults around, just because you're ignoring them doesn't mean they aren't there.
And quite frankly, it's getting tiresome, can you blame those of us who like the game for responding in kind?
i got my refund also back. 60€ for this shit wasnt worth. and yeah i played ~100h, was end act 3 inferno and sold my items and gold for 90€. so what now fanboys?
Yes, he seems very mature indeed.
Also, R3form, it actually does matter how much time one spends playing the game, because not only did these guys play through it on three separate difficulties and a good chunk of the fourth, they also spent at least a whole week of their lives doing so. And then proceeded to complain how they didn't like it in the first place, bashed the game online and demanded their money back. That is like Douchebaggery 101 right there.
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"Fear is the mind killer. Fear is the small death that brings total obliteration."
Not entirelly sure why you think its needed to tell everyone that you got a refund?
Some may call this fanboi-ism, so say what you will. The fact that you gave the developers your money and played their game for 65 hours, only to decide you didn't like it and wanted a refund in the first place is flat out retarded. You basically pirated their game, you played it as much as you wanted to then threw it away and got all your money back - if thats not the closest thing to piracy I don't know what is.
I agree with this post.
If blizzard wasn't a billionaire industrie I would feel bad for the developers... You've spent 65 hours playing it, you enjoyed or you woudn't play for more than maybe 5 hours... But you didn't knew it was a replay gamestyle or you couldn't kill some rare packs on inferno, so you got pissed and want your money back without even wait some weeks to the game get stable/fixed.
You enjoyed the lore, the game, you played for more time than most SP games, and you don't want to wait for fixes that ALL ONLINE games have, Blizzard is really doing a great job with their servers, many companies wouldn't handle so good with SO MANY players at the beginning, and they are fixing things!
You are really spoiled boy or you are really hard to please... either way, good bye and be happy on your life!
i just want to add that a game that relies on you hitting the potion button for instant heals every time your health drops down a bit, is just totally flawed. Thats why you got a cd on potions in D3 and thats why we have things like the health globes. So please, give me a break, titan's quest is not that good. Its an ok diablo clone.
And yes, getting a refund after 65 hours of playtime is just lame. I dont understnad why they gave you the refund, thats just retarded.
i just want to add that a game that relies on you hitting the potion button for instant heals every time your health drops down a bit, is just totally flawed. Thats why you got a cd on potions in D3 and thats why we have things like the health globes. So please, give me a break, titan's quest is not that good. Its an ok diablo clone.
And yes, getting a refund after 65 hours of playtime is just lame. I dont understnad why they gave you the refund, thats just retarded.
Gave him a refund to try and save what little relationship they have with him. It is called customer service, sure he hates Diablo 3, but why let that stink sit on him and prevent him from buying future products? Give him the $65 which is nothing and you keep the odds that he will return at some point and spend more money.
"What did you do all day every day this week?" "Play Diablo 3." "How did you like it?" "It fucking sucked!"
That's what the person I know IRL is like. Over 100 hours played, and he does nothing but complain about how bad the game is. I mean, really? His Steam account has almost no games with over 20 hours played. I really think he just hates Blizzard and refuses to acknowledge anything they produce could be even decent.
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Personally I love the game and as a long-time Diablo player it kind of annoys me when people claim to be the same and then talk about how D3 "ruined the series" or some garbage. If you don't like the game that's cool, you don't have to like what I like. But can't see how D3 isn't pretty much just a refinement of D2.
All of your post is wrong but I just wanted to address this particular part of it:
1) Pretty much every game ever has had problems at launch, especially online ones. It's hard. You think you can do better, you make a game.
2) I played since launch and had bugs, disconnects, etc... but you know what when you compare how much worked to how much didn't it really wasn't a bad launch at all. People complaining about the launch have no perspective whatsoever. Not everything worked 100% from the second it went live and there was some downtime, boo freakin hoo.
Personally I love the game and as a long-time Diablo player it kind of annoys me when people claim to be the same and then talk about how D3 "ruined the series" or some garbage. If you don't like the game that's cool, you don't have to like what I like. But can't see how D3 isn't pretty much just a refinement of D2.
All of your post is wrong but I just wanted to address this particular part of it:
1) Pretty much every game ever has had problems at launch, especially online ones. It's hard. You think you can do better, you make a game.
2) I played since launch and had bugs, disconnects, etc... but you know what when you compare how much worked to how much didn't it really wasn't a bad launch at all. People complaining about the launch have no perspective whatsoever. Not everything worked 100% from the second it went live and there was some downtime, boo freakin hoo.
Okay lol in that case can I get a refund for a WoW account I played for 3 months to level/gear up to Dragon Soul?
Hey wow, high five for people who ACTUALLY remember D2! Going by the forums it's a lot less than 1.9% of all players
I strongly disagree. You must be overreacting. Let's compare each game:
Titan quest: immortal throne: I just installed it again last month to wait for D3 to come out. The game is boring as hell. It takes forever to get from a quest to another, the whole game lasts forever because of the time you spend walking from town to town. The monsters are just lame, you go on into killing boars, spiders, murlocs and other animals for the whole game. And the number of skills and specializations are just insane in a world you can only successfully combine so little of them that you had to make a 10 hour research before making your character and keep a paper with the skills you should take. But don't get me wrong, it was the best Diablo clone ever, but not even close to any Diablo.
Nox: I am surprised anyone else played this game. It was quite fun actually, but it remembers a lot more the Ultima franchise than Diablo's. I even remembers more Baldur's Gate then Diablo. 0 replaybility also takes it toll. No online coop gaming whatsoever too. Just can't compare them. But I did only play it once too.
Torchlight: You're kidding right? Torchlight was born in the D3 first gameplay movie. They've copied EVERYTHING they could from the Barbarian video and made a game that is incredibly flawed in many aspects such as story, balance, skill setting, items, story, pretty much everything. It is quite fun too, but the endless flaws make you give up on believing in the mechanics.
Diablo 2 + LoD have already been discussed. They were great. But they're old. There are MANY aspects that D3 improved so much that if you play D2 again you won't know how you could manage to play it those days. Useless items like throwable potions, stamina, stupid stats assignment, almost no way to play different skills from the cookie cutter builds, painfully trading in spamming trade channels and games, no private loot so quicker player got them all, annoying to pick gold manually, shallow story (D3 isn't great, but D2 story is shallow and D1 is a joke in story), everyone did boss runs on and on all the time, everytime the same quests that almost everyone of them just got skipped (now we have random events), lots of hacks and dupes made the economy incredibly dull, people complain about AH making the game easy but everyone of them got Enigma armors for quite nothing in D2. I also remember making like 1 thousand Nightmare Meph runs before I got to Hell to get items to trade or for myself and people complains that you have to farm a lot to pass through Inferno, and only Sorcs and Necros could MF, may I add, because of the melee dependency of gear while magic classes didn't at all... I could go on, there are lots of improvements on D3.
Also I could add the Dungeon Siege franchise. The 1 got me for some time, but when I was controlling about 5 characters all the time the game just seemed too complicated. Dungeon Siege 3 is so bad that I felt to make a sacrifice to play it. Stopped just after getting the second level.
So, yes, D3 is probably the best ARPG ever made if you analyze it without passion. But people are so craved in their romantic memories of D2 and D1 that they would never see a game that lived to their fake expectations. Have you tried to play D1 in the last 5 years? The game doesn't even keep attacking if you hold the mouse button!
Not only do you have the audacity to ask for a refund on something you have been using for 65 hours, you go to the forums bragging about it? Please realise that this was a huge accomodation from Blizzard and most other companies would laugh at your request.
Anyways, I'm sorry you didn't like the game. I for one love it.
I proudly call myself a fan, so thanks for that. This game is better of without you, so now you can go play whatever game you like, and we get to play D3 without you dragging us all down.
This game is a good step forward for ARPGs and the best out so far, and from here it will just get better. If you don't agree, InfidelMan and Klusterboy will show you the way to the door.
And quite frankly, it's getting tiresome, can you blame those of us who like the game for responding in kind?
Yes, he seems very mature indeed.
Also, R3form, it actually does matter how much time one spends playing the game, because not only did these guys play through it on three separate difficulties and a good chunk of the fourth, they also spent at least a whole week of their lives doing so. And then proceeded to complain how they didn't like it in the first place, bashed the game online and demanded their money back. That is like Douchebaggery 101 right there.
DIABRO FREE IS SERIOUS BIZNUZ
Amoral jerk.
Guy 2-"Lemme try one"
Guy 1- "Can't I ate them all"
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+1.
If blizzard wasn't a billionaire industrie I would feel bad for the developers... You've spent 65 hours playing it, you enjoyed or you woudn't play for more than maybe 5 hours... But you didn't knew it was a replay gamestyle or you couldn't kill some rare packs on inferno, so you got pissed and want your money back without even wait some weeks to the game get stable/fixed.
You enjoyed the lore, the game, you played for more time than most SP games, and you don't want to wait for fixes that ALL ONLINE games have, Blizzard is really doing a great job with their servers, many companies wouldn't handle so good with SO MANY players at the beginning, and they are fixing things!
You are really spoiled boy or you are really hard to please... either way, good bye and be happy on your life!
And yes, getting a refund after 65 hours of playtime is just lame. I dont understnad why they gave you the refund, thats just retarded.
That's what the person I know IRL is like. Over 100 hours played, and he does nothing but complain about how bad the game is. I mean, really? His Steam account has almost no games with over 20 hours played. I really think he just hates Blizzard and refuses to acknowledge anything they produce could be even decent.