over the course of the beta they did send out over a half a million invites. since there was that whole "zomg 100k beta invites sent out" and then the "zomg 275k beta invites sent out" announcements plus all the other additional waves over the course of what... 8 months? that didnt get announced so id say its closer to 1 million.
id say this boils down to just one thing. entitlement. the 'hardcore' fans are screaming that they are ENTITLED, that they DESERVE.. no no that it is their RIGHT to get free shit for doing NOTHING. "ive been a hardcore diablo fan since bla bla bla my mothers basement bla bla QQQ bla bla" you have all heard it a thousand times in the epic QQ threads that start they say "im a hardcore fan therefor i deserve blank". under this logic ive been a hardcore fan of many bands, i believe i should get to go to their concerts for free and that guy who got a random free t-shirt in the crowd thrown to him, i DESERVE that t-shirt wtf. and dont compare it to the CE wings, you PAY for those. see, something for something.
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"once the pretty hardcore gamers we had testing inferno found it fairly difficult, we then we doubled it" -trolololol jay wilson
No one is entitled to this FoS and the sigil..it was a simple lottery.
ya but if you talk to any of the 'hardcore' fans including molster they'll tell you a lottery to get a sigil in-game is just a travesty and betrayal by blizzard. of course molster will word it better than the rest but hes still saying the same thing sadly
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"once the pretty hardcore gamers we had testing inferno found it fairly difficult, we then we doubled it" -trolololol jay wilson
Alright let me articulate why I don't think this is fair. Blizzard has stated in the past feats of strength were something very difficult or something that is impossible to obtain anymore. They have maintained however through actions and wording that everyone has a chance at the feats. But with this beta that has been flipped, not everyone could have a chance for this feat, infact short of black martket buying a CD Key from a fansite there was no way to be guaranteed to get it.
All i had to do to get into beta was to subcribe to a nvidia newsletter. They were giving away invites to the first 400 subscribers.
They also gave away invites throu twitter and anybody could have been checking twitter to get those invites.
SO in my opinion this feta is strengh qualifies for this criteria.
Couldn't agree more. There has been plenty of competitions in which you could have won a key. Sure some of those you needed to watch twitter 24/7 and then be super fast when it came, but you had the chance, only the opt-ins were random.
So it still very much qualifies as a FoS. A hard one sure, but none the less.
I see no problem with those in the beta getting a sigil to show they were in the beta, there are more then enough sigils in the game for different accomplishments.
I don't know what molster would say...all i know is some people got lucky some people didn't..I don't see anyone complaining when someone wins like 5M$ on the lottery.But there is a shitstorm of rage that some of us get a little sigil and a FoS?
Really people is it that big of a deal?
exactly. when it comes to video games people get more upset then in real life which is just so sad.
I see no problem with those in the beta getting a sigil to show they were in the beta, there are more then enough sigils in the game for different accomplishments.
^and this.
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"once the pretty hardcore gamers we had testing inferno found it fairly difficult, we then we doubled it" -trolololol jay wilson
Man, I'm going to be totally honest here because I think a dash of honesty might open some eyes. I find it totally disheartening and pretty depressing how so many people are dishing out personal attacks and insults towards people who aren't happy with the whole FoS/sigil thing. This kind of crap really reminds me why I rarely post on forums.
Seriously, I want to have some real discussion but nearly every response I receive is some kind of insult or attack. I don't see why I'll ever post here again when this is the way people are treated here. I'm here to have a discussion - whether right or wrong, whether we agree or not. I didn't come here to have people tell me I'm "mentally deficient" or to "get the stick out of my ass" or "stop bitching like a 5 year old for christ's sake". What an unbelievably worthless excuse for a "discussion".
Edit: I'm not even exaggerating, I'm now going to bed in a totally shitty mood because I thought I'd have some genuine debate/discussion about this issue but all I got was a bunch of people totally shitting on me and plenty of others. Thanks, I really appreciate it.
WOW. I don't want to make personal attacks or demean you and I've only read the posts on the first few pages and this page. But wow. The only thing that comes to my mind is how old are you?
If you're in your late 20's or older and are holding a steady job supporting yourself and perhaps a family, then you sound really immature. You're telling me that in life you've never encountered lucky bastards who won something while you didn't ? (eg. Winning a lottery or game giveaway) never encountered a situation where you weren't picked for a group either social or sports or otherwise? Where there was a gift/toy/item that you really wanted but so did everyone else and you had to wait a few months? (Eg. iPad launch) When investing in the stock market or your 401k, and how some people who picked stocks which skyrocketed in value despite the market and your portfolio going down?
Blizzard using whatever algorithmic formula they used picked Random people for Diablo 3 closed beta. It was completely luck of the draw. They now want to give those people a Feat of Strength which gives a sigil banner unlock. There are going to be tens of dozens of sigil unlocks just from gameplay. One more isn't going to make a difference to anyone in the grand scheme of things.
Also you made a comment about special Dye + Wings in a previous post that you're losing out on? Anyone buying a collector's edition get's this. You just needed to have 2 criteria. (1) Shell out the cash for a CE D3 box (2) Had been a devoted fan of diablo (or luck) and pre-ordered a box. I can only assume by your post number that you're new to diablofans.com so either you were on another diablo fan site or you are only a casual fan of the game. Some of us have literally been following this game for years and were just waiting for the CE to be available. That's why it sold out in less than a day when initially offered.
Back to my main point, if you're in your late 20's or older and are crying out at the unfairness of people getting a feat of strength, you have bigger issues that a game. If you're not yet in your late 20's and are and are crying out at the unfairness of this, then its a life lesson. One of many you will encounter, so deal with it, see a shrink, find an outlet, whatever. Otherwise you'll find yourself in a whole heap of trouble in a few more years.
You don't want real discussion because this is a non-issue to a rational mature adult. And this sounds bad but Shit Happens, get over it.
What has the world come to. "I'm sorry...can't hear what you're saying. Please stop crying. Did anyone hurt you? Is Lassie dead? Did the rainforest draw its last breath? Wha...feat of..what? Sigil...?"
I dont care and I dont understand how people can create a thread with 11 pages for such an insignificant issue. An achievment which will obviously pale against any cool one like beating inferno or getting 1mil gold or something like that, which obviously took either skill or time, often both.
Atleast put effort in a issue thats actually bad like people not getting the ce they ordered or monks not getting the attacks they should by holding m1 compared to clicking.
Its not even an achievement, is a crappy recognition they decided to call a "feat of strengh"
This is a stupid choice for Blizzard to make, but I'm not going to QQ and act like a bitch because I didn't get a 'Feat of Strength'. Who gives a shit TBH.
They are NOT giving an exclusive sigil and achievement based on luck. They are giving them because beta testers helped them with all the bugs and testing the new systems in the game, and ultimately made it possible for blizzard to announce the release date of may 15. Basically you should congratulate them on the sigil and achievement(of which is worth 0 points) because without the beta testers who knows how long the game would have taken to be released.
I for one was a beta tester and I indeed reported bugs and I belive I do deserve a special gift for helping blizzard out.
This whole luck thing is in a way an attempt to diminish the rewards themselves because of jealousy and-or just thinking that it means that "that person is better" which it certainly does not
"I've cleared the whole game over and over again with 1200% magic find. Then you just walk in and get a godly item on your first trip through inferno! Why should you get a godly item?!?!?! I've been a bigger fan! I've played more! I had more magic find!!!! Why you?!"
I don't understand why this is angering people. Are those opposed to giving beta recipients going to be upset when they don't get a feat of strength because they couldn't Blizz con? Beta players get some useless text and sigil. How can you be upset at something you have no control over? No one will be able to collect every item in this game either. How does being a fan entitle you to anything someone else in the game has?
You're telling me that in life you've never encountered lucky bastards who won something while you didn't ? (eg. Winning a lottery or game giveaway) never encountered a situation where you weren't picked for a group either social or sports or otherwise? Where there was a gift/toy/item that you really wanted but so did everyone else and you had to wait a few months? (Eg. iPad launch) When investing in the stock market or your 401k, and how some people who picked stocks which skyrocketed in value despite the market and your portfolio going down?
First off, I already said like 2 pages ago "I don't actually care that much". I don't. I'm making a point for the sake of discussion, and expressing my annoyance with what I think is a pretty crappy choice by Blizzard. Also, who the hell are you to judge me? Why are you making personal attacks and judgements about me? It's irrelevant. We're here to discuss Diablo and/or Diablo III. This is diabloFans.com , not psychologyOfDiabloFans.com .
Second, I don't care that other people got into the closed beta and I didn't. It sucked, but then I got to play for quite a while during the open beta, so that was pretty excellent. What I think was a crappy choice by Blizzard was then to further reward those players with a Feat of Luck and an in-game banner sigil. Seriously, that's all I'm freaking saying.
There are going to be tens of dozens of sigil unlocks just from gameplay. One more isn't going to make a difference to anyone in the grand scheme of things.
That's not the point. See my previous paragraph that summarizes what the problem is.
Also you made a comment about special Dye + Wings in a previous post that you're losing out on? Anyone buying a collector's edition get's this.
Yes, I know. I preordered the CE. If you had actually read my post you'd realize I mentioned the Tyrael wings and exclusive dyes as a way to give evidence to my argument that purely-aesthetic items in games have actual value to people, and they will pay money for them (I furthered this point by citing the fact that people spend tons of money on character skins in League of Legends).
Back to my main point, if you're in your late 20's or older and are crying out at the unfairness of people getting a feat of strength, you have bigger issues that a game. If you're not yet in your late 20's and are and are crying out at the unfairness of this, then its a life lesson. One of many you will encounter, so deal with it, see a shrink, find an outlet, whatever. Otherwise you'll find yourself in a whole heap of trouble in a few more years.
You don't want real discussion because this is a non-issue to a rational mature adult. And this sounds bad but Shit Happens, get over it.
AGAIN, I don't actually CARE. Quit being such a fucking prick towards me.
id say this boils down to just one thing. entitlement. the 'hardcore' fans are screaming that they are ENTITLED, that they DESERVE.. no no that it is their RIGHT to get free shit for doing NOTHING. "ive been a hardcore diablo fan since bla bla bla my mothers basement bla bla QQQ bla bla" you have all heard it a thousand times in the epic QQ threads that start they say "im a hardcore fan therefor i deserve blank". under this logic ive been a hardcore fan of many bands, i believe i should get to go to their concerts for free and that guy who got a random free t-shirt in the crowd thrown to him, i DESERVE that t-shirt wtf. and dont compare it to the CE wings, you PAY for those. see, something for something.
i think this thread would get better if it went off topic. lulz
ya but if you talk to any of the 'hardcore' fans including molster they'll tell you a lottery to get a sigil in-game is just a travesty and betrayal by blizzard. of course molster will word it better than the rest but hes still saying the same thing sadly
So it still very much qualifies as a FoS. A hard one sure, but none the less.
exactly. when it comes to video games people get more upset then in real life which is just so sad.
^and this.
WOW. I don't want to make personal attacks or demean you and I've only read the posts on the first few pages and this page. But wow. The only thing that comes to my mind is how old are you?
If you're in your late 20's or older and are holding a steady job supporting yourself and perhaps a family, then you sound really immature. You're telling me that in life you've never encountered lucky bastards who won something while you didn't ? (eg. Winning a lottery or game giveaway) never encountered a situation where you weren't picked for a group either social or sports or otherwise? Where there was a gift/toy/item that you really wanted but so did everyone else and you had to wait a few months? (Eg. iPad launch) When investing in the stock market or your 401k, and how some people who picked stocks which skyrocketed in value despite the market and your portfolio going down?
Blizzard using whatever algorithmic formula they used picked Random people for Diablo 3 closed beta. It was completely luck of the draw. They now want to give those people a Feat of Strength which gives a sigil banner unlock. There are going to be tens of dozens of sigil unlocks just from gameplay. One more isn't going to make a difference to anyone in the grand scheme of things.
Also you made a comment about special Dye + Wings in a previous post that you're losing out on? Anyone buying a collector's edition get's this. You just needed to have 2 criteria. (1) Shell out the cash for a CE D3 box (2) Had been a devoted fan of diablo (or luck) and pre-ordered a box. I can only assume by your post number that you're new to diablofans.com so either you were on another diablo fan site or you are only a casual fan of the game. Some of us have literally been following this game for years and were just waiting for the CE to be available. That's why it sold out in less than a day when initially offered.
Back to my main point, if you're in your late 20's or older and are crying out at the unfairness of people getting a feat of strength, you have bigger issues that a game. If you're not yet in your late 20's and are and are crying out at the unfairness of this, then its a life lesson. One of many you will encounter, so deal with it, see a shrink, find an outlet, whatever. Otherwise you'll find yourself in a whole heap of trouble in a few more years.
You don't want real discussion because this is a non-issue to a rational mature adult. And this sounds bad but Shit Happens, get over it.
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You should see the one(s) on the official D3 forums.
April 12th they sent out 275,000 beta invitations in addition to everything they'd sent prior, so you're clearly wrong.
http://us.battle.net/d3/en/forum/topic/4427704063
Im from ecuador, As far as i can tell it was not on any lists.
I got the beta key from a nvidia.uk contest.
This thread should go to first-world-problems.com/
Its not even an achievement, is a crappy recognition they decided to call a "feat of strengh"
I am lucky enough to have been in the beta, but I always hated it in WoW when I couldn't have all of the feats of strength.
I for one was a beta tester and I indeed reported bugs and I belive I do deserve a special gift for helping blizzard out.
This whole luck thing is in a way an attempt to diminish the rewards themselves because of jealousy and-or just thinking that it means that "that person is better" which it certainly does not
Luck. It's a part of the franchise.
First off, I already said like 2 pages ago "I don't actually care that much". I don't. I'm making a point for the sake of discussion, and expressing my annoyance with what I think is a pretty crappy choice by Blizzard. Also, who the hell are you to judge me? Why are you making personal attacks and judgements about me? It's irrelevant. We're here to discuss Diablo and/or Diablo III. This is diabloFans.com , not psychologyOfDiabloFans.com .
Second, I don't care that other people got into the closed beta and I didn't. It sucked, but then I got to play for quite a while during the open beta, so that was pretty excellent. What I think was a crappy choice by Blizzard was then to further reward those players with a Feat of Luck and an in-game banner sigil. Seriously, that's all I'm freaking saying.
That's not the point. See my previous paragraph that summarizes what the problem is.
Yes, I know. I preordered the CE. If you had actually read my post you'd realize I mentioned the Tyrael wings and exclusive dyes as a way to give evidence to my argument that purely-aesthetic items in games have actual value to people, and they will pay money for them (I furthered this point by citing the fact that people spend tons of money on character skins in League of Legends).
AGAIN, I don't actually CARE. Quit being such a fucking prick towards me.
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