I was testing the starter edition and i liked the game. But im not sure about the game duration. I want a game for play and play for weeks with a friend (We are going to buy the game together) and we need something "addictive" to play. I played D2 few years ago and enjoyed it a lot. But if this D3 is just finish the main campaign and repeat the same enemies and scenaries without any difference, im not sure to buy it.
Can i buy D3 for 13$ (just the original game) or for 20$ (With Soul Reaper). The expansion is worth?
Also, the game community still active? Recommend some classes for play duo?
The expansion is basically needed. Most of the end game content that is different from the campaign is unlocked by the expansion. I have convinced a few of my friends to buy the game and they played for 2-3 months before giving up playing it. I will say it is very addicting starting out but if you have no long term goals it can lose interest after that 2 month period of play.
Community is there but not huge or anything. If you have a friend to play with I would recommend just playing with them as the game is a lot of fun with a small group of friends.
The only thing I would say about playing duo starting out is that there are 2 classes for each primary stat and these classes can share gear fairly easily.
Dexterity - Monk and Demon Hunter
Intelligence - Wizard and Witch Doctor
Strength - Barbarian and Crusader
Beyond that I wouldn't worry too much about which classes you play. If you don't enjoy a class, leveling a new character is easy and quick in this game and your friend can power level you pretty quickly if they aren't interested in leveling another character.
I have to say buy it, i've spent 6000+ hours easy in this game, and now with seasons you get a fresh start and start equal to everyone, (although it's not my thing).
The game also has an infinite scaling endgame, which is alot better than d2's static difficulty runs, and you can progress for personal gains or for ranking within the leaderboards...
If you decide to play season or not in EU apply to the diablo fans eu clan and we will invite, you'll have ppl to play almost always.
EDIT: Buy the expansion ofc.
Diablo is a specific kind of game. It's all about the grind. Yes, it is very simple and repetitive.
But in addition to the grind for better gear and more XP, there is replay value to be found in:
- Seasons/Season Journal
Everyone starts new. Of course you won't be able to compete on the leaderboards with the addicts who have time to play for 6-8 hrs per day, but it's still fun to progress through the Season Journey. It gives you specific things to do.
- Challenges
There are tons of challenges you can do, for both seasonal and non-seasonal/career. Each class also has multiple set dungeons you can complete, which by itself can provide hours of gameplay while you farm for the set pieces.
- Classes
There are six classes, each with at least two builds that are capable of high GR endgame progression. You can experiment with different playstyles and find the ones you like the best.
- Rare events/items
There are some things that happen very rarely that require you to just keep playing in order to find. And you can get cosmetic rewards from them.
So yeah...the core gameplay itself gets "old" after a while. But the game does give you a lot of things to do if you're interested.
For me $20 is a no-brainer for this game, that is unless you're not into farming/leveling/grinding. But that's what Diablo is all about, so if it's not your cup of tea, there's no reason to play this game.
"leveling a new character is easy and quick in this game"
Yes, particularly after you've invested time to build a high level character at least once. Your stash, paragon points, and cube powers are available to all of your characters within a season and non-seasonal respectively. Playing with friend on T10-T13 difficulty with Custerian Wristguards cubed power + puzzle ring + boon of the hoarder, you can get to level 70 in 15 minutes or less. Pretty much instantly. The most recent time doing this with my wife, I got her to level 69 in the vault, and within 30 seconds of starting a rift she was 70
Playing with friend on T10-T13 difficulty with Custerian Wristguards cubed power + puzzle ring + boon of the hoarder, you can get to level 70 in 15 minutes or less. Pretty much instantly. The most recent time doing this with my wife, I got her to level 69 in the vault, and within 30 seconds of starting a rift she was 70
hmm sounds totally legit. especially since you have to be lvl70 to join a game above T6. leveling can be done in less than an hour yes, but in t6.
It might only work for local co-op on console. You can get around the T6 limit by:
1) Make sure you're Player 2 and not Player 1 already in a T13 game with your current hero
2) Drop out of the game
3) Sign in again, and join with a new hero.
It works, at least on Xbox One.
GAME IS DEAD - dont buy it !
Community is basicly dead too... Most of top players moved on...
Try Path of Exile - IT IS what diablo 3 should be and its FREE and it will have HUGE expansion in 2 months also FREEEEEEEEEEEEE Only thing u can buy is stash tabs and cosmetics... Its much more complexed game than d3 tho so takes more time to get into it but on the other hand - I moved to PoE few months ago and STILL i know maybe 15% of game... D3- ull be bored after week of GRs..
Yea d3 was A LOT of fun and i spent probably even more than 1500 hours ! (played on eu and us serv, played hc for a while too). But OPs question unfortunately was not posted here 5 seasons ago but today and as for today: game is dead and a paid new class for same content (dont even start with QOL changes that should be done seasons ago!) wont resurrect it. Nail to the coffing was HUDE NOTHING announced on blizzcon last year. Sure some may come back for NEcro launch... but that doesnt change the fact that game is on its last breath. SO again, buyin this gane NOW and paying for another expansion in upcoming weeks - something i do not recommend at this moment
again: why not try PoE tha is FREE. but its not as easy and str8 forward as d3.. u look for some challenge? u want to be forced to think once in a while? u want to be excited when something drops? Then U r on wrong forum ;/
and final word from me as i opened diablofans today only by mistake and not gonna post anymore... GAME WAS FUN until like 3 seasons ago.. now its just powercreep, no big game changes, same ol borin paragon farming...
RIP d3, see You all in diablo 4 hopefully sooner than in 10 years !
Peace out !
EDIT: "expansion massivly recommended" at least be honest with the guy, ITS A MUST not recommended (Ros)...
EDIT2: Bleu42 nicely put.. if ur good at d3, know what u r doing and have some party then u can be done with seasonal journey on 1st weekend lol then yea.. if u want to go for leaderboards and get some good spot on it (top 100) u r forced to grind same shit EVERY day not to fall behind in paragon farm.. on top of that U r forced to play 1-2 setups if u want to get into 4men party, no one will take U for higher content with some non meta build so dont be fooled by amount of sets for each class..
Path of exile is absolutely better than Diablo 3 in every single area that counts.
To your question OP; Yes, D3 is finish the campaign, then do nearly the exact same content while slightly upping the difficulty by a few % (greater rifts).
Actually, if you want a quick rundown;
Farm one area until level 70 with massacre bonuses.
Craft armor and weapons because who needs to rely on item drops in an ARPG.
Immediately skip a couple of the 17 difficulties and put it on T1 because then sets can drop.
Now stand in town and do regular rifts or bounties.
Spend a couple hours at most doing the Season Journey and then get handed your 6p set.
Upgrade rare weapons that you craft and get your sets' mandatory unique weapon.
Now skip even more difficulty levels and move on to T6.
Now do greater rifts until you run out of stones, then do regular rifts.
And now, because a game that's supposed to be around hunting loot instead just hands you everything, the only thing of worth is trying for leaderboards. So get ready to use 1 set for your class that's far better than the others, and have no choice in items because there's multiple mandatory legendaries that your set requires.
But don't worry, having all the items drop all the time just means you get to hunt for the same pieces with just slightly higher stats!
GAME IS DEAD - dont buy it !
Community is basicly dead too... Most of top players moved on...
Try Path of Exile - IT IS what diablo 3 should be and its FREE and it will have HUGE expansion in 2 months also FREEEEEEEEEEEEE Only thing u can buy is stash tabs and cosmetics... Its much more complexed game than d3 tho so takes more time to get into it but on the other hand - I moved to PoE few months ago and STILL i know maybe 15% of game... D3- ull be bored after week of GRs..
brain dead casual talk
Take it from someone who plays both PoE and D3. They offer slightly different things but are very similar. Most people who play talk about economy. Which is the driving force behind gearing your character, and optimizing. It's the same thing season after season. Get rich, buy gear and grind maps. Leaderboard exists but its on forum and only based on how high your level is.
D3 gearing path is through drops, using the cube system. Therefore it lacks an economy they use to have RMH but it was removed, but tards wanted it removed and once it was people cried. Leaderboards are better in d3. if you're into competition it's more fun. Which is why i prefer d3 than PoE but i still play poe regardless.
People complain about lack of build diversity but PoE is similar you simply have an illusion of having a ton of builds but all good players play the top builds for efficiency. Most builds cant grind the higher tiered mps so you have to look up which is meta.
The fun part about poe though is literally ruining the economy if you're good at it. you can easily control prices and cause inflation or devalue the hell out of exalts which happened last season.
They also are going in the direction of D3 and casualizing the game. they have to and was evidence of this in the form of new abilities that were released (blade vortex anyone) before the announcement of a console version of poe.
"This forum has become far too toxic for any meaningful discussion of
the game. I hope they can sort this out and get back to making a game
we can all enjoy without cheaters ruining it for everyone. Best wishes
all."-Hammer's view on diablo 3 forums 2014
also i wish i only spent that much money but i bought the core game and expansion at time of release and getting the limited editions. @.@
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all."-Hammer's view on diablo 3 forums 2014
GAME IS DEAD - dont buy it !
Community is basicly dead too... Most of top players moved on...
Try Path of Exile - IT IS what diablo 3 should be and its FREE and it will have HUGE expansion in 2 months also FREEEEEEEEEEEEE Only thing u can buy is stash tabs and cosmetics... Its much more complexed game than d3 tho so takes more time to get into it but on the other hand - I moved to PoE few months ago and STILL i know maybe 15% of game... D3- ull be bored after week of GRs..
Leaderboards are better in d3. if you're into competition it's more fun.
Not better, just different. In PoE you can do r1 completely solo. in D3 it's impossible.
It's better because at least you're actively pushing by making your character stronger and grift fishing (which decision making comes into play, are you smart enough to understand what mobs you want and can properly check through the next floors to see what you will get).
Yeah you can solo all day on PoE but the truth is the leaderboards are XP based, not through progression of tiered maps. That's boring. I can spend all day everyday grinding xp on PoE but that's not even in the least bit challenging. People just have a natural hate for d3 because they didn't want d3 they wanted a remastered version of D2.
I'm competitive so i prefer D3. Grinding for XP is all fine and dandy but that's not what kind of competitiveness i want.
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all."-Hammer's view on diablo 3 forums 2014
It's better because at least you're actively pushing by making your character stronger and grift fishing (which decision making comes into play, are you smart enough to understand what mobs you want and can properly check through the next floors to see what you will get).
Yeah you can solo all day on PoE but the truth is the leaderboards are XP based, not through progression of tiered maps. That's boring. I can spend all day everyday grinding xp on PoE but that's not even in the least bit challenging. People just have a natural hate for d3 because they didn't want d3 they wanted a remastered version of D2.
I'm competitive so i prefer D3. Grinding for XP is all fine and dandy but that's not what kind of competitiveness i want.
Couldn't agree more, PoE does have some mechanics that look interesting, and that's what made me try it, i did have fun but it's really an outdated game, graphics and gameplay wise it's just clunky, farming xp alot (just like d3's paragon), again, some interesting mechanics is everything PoE has tbh...
Ppl complain that in D3 it's too easy to gear, (GL getting full primals) but in PoE if you are lucky like i was some random dude in town is quitting and will give you a shit ton of awesome gear, so i find PoE maps alot easier than solo 90+ with a non meta build (which i have also done) in D3.
@OP: Diablo 3 got me 6000 hours of entertainment back since release and i still play it and plan on buying the necromancer.
Path of Exile got me to around 500 hours which is good for a small F2P game before becoming too grindy and abrasive to the eyes.
Try them both and judge for yourself is my best advice.
Both games has advantages and disadvantages. PoE is in great shape right now and will be insanely better with a huge 3.0 expansion (where all game difficulties are no more).
Necromancer, on the other hand will have people playin for maybe a week or two. Maybe a month to farm all ancient legendary gear and sets and that's all, it's exhausted. Diablo 3 cannot compete with any MMO atm because there is simply not enough content added. 1 reworked legendary in 3 months is not enough.
I dropped PoE about 2 years ago for the reasons stated above: shitty grapphics, awkward gameplay. But decided to return for current league and oh my gawd the game is so much better now. It's insane how it has improved over last 2 years. And leaderboards are just a small thing in PoE. there's racing events and such which happen during and between the leagues, plenty of stuff. Patches are daily. A lot of things to do. Do maps or farm cards or do prophecies or run in magic find gear or kill bosses. There's also 126 unique maps to explore lol. ONE HUNDRED AND TWENTY SIX maps lol. I only cleared 56 for now and league ends in 2 weeks.
I also really like the XP penalty in PoE. You actually need to watch your step and think twice before entering high level maps and some bosses. In D3 it's just straighforwards = you either fish for density or a boss. You die and resurrect and go on. In PoE if you die near end game you can lose a half day worth of XP.
Both games has advantages and disadvantages. PoE is in great shape right now and will be insanely better with a huge 3.0 expansion (where all game difficulties are no more).
Necromancer, on the other hand will have people playin for maybe a week or two. Maybe a month to farm all ancient legendary gear and sets and that's all, it's exhausted. Diablo 3 cannot compete with any MMO atm because there is simply not enough content added. 1 reworked legendary in 3 months is not enough.
I dropped PoE about 2 years ago for the reasons stated above: shitty grapphics, awkward gameplay. But decided to return for current league and oh my gawd the game is so much better now. It's insane how it has improved over last 2 years. And leaderboards are just a small thing in PoE. there's racing events and such which happen during and between the leagues, plenty of stuff. Patches are daily. A lot of things to do. Do maps or farm cards or do prophecies or run in magic find gear or kill bosses. There's also 126 unique maps to explore lol. ONE HUNDRED AND TWENTY SIX maps lol. I only cleared 56 for now and league ends in 2 weeks.
Man races are so poorly implemented though. Last season we waited, and waited and after forming my atlas for experience i was done. lol
Yeah they have a lot of maps but the atlas system isn't designed for you to run all of them. You create an atlas for your needs. Like if you want certain maps to be higher tier, if you want experience etc. Want to run a thousand quays? leggo you know? And if you fuck your atlas you're forced to reroll, no resets.
Both games are good, both games have pros and cons. But D3 is for people who want to grind and make leaderboards. More casuals are drawn to poe because of "diversity" and casuals make up the majority of the player base. D3 is a great game but needs a new face.
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we can all enjoy without cheaters ruining it for everyone. Best wishes
all."-Hammer's view on diablo 3 forums 2014
I also really like the XP penalty in PoE. You actually need to watch your step and think twice before entering high level maps and some bosses. In D3 it's just straighforwards = you either fish for density or a boss. You die and resurrect and go on. In PoE if you die near end game you can lose a half day worth of XP.
That depends if you're casual and using a sub optimal build or simply not geared enough for the map you're on. I know what maps to aim for and never die. It's just a matter of holding your britches XD
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we can all enjoy without cheaters ruining it for everyone. Best wishes
all."-Hammer's view on diablo 3 forums 2014
I'm just gonna drop this here mostly as a reply to everyone saying the game is dead;
It's 5 years old, and still getting new content and regular updates. If you don't like the game anymore, then stop playing and leave the forums alone. If you think it's dead, then bury it and move on.
Now, on to whether or not you should buy it; yes. With expansion.
It's easy to find yourself playing hundreds of hours with a single class, even after the campaign, and moving on to other classes/building sets makes the game all the more replayable. Then there are a number of "secrets" that I found a lot of fun to track down, such as hidden levels, Easter egg items, and lore bits.
Further, the new Necromancer update is going to provide yet more content to massacre through, and bears the implication that D3 is not done yet, nor does it want to be. A number of people (myself included) theorize that this will be merely the first character pack, and that we'll be seeing new classes in the future.
All in all, it's a great game with prodigious longevity, and a lot of promise for the future. Well worth the cost.
Both games has advantages and disadvantages. PoE is in great shape right now and will be insanely better with a huge 3.0 expansion (where all game difficulties are no more).
Necromancer, on the other hand will have people playin for maybe a week or two. Maybe a month to farm all ancient legendary gear and sets and that's all, it's exhausted. Diablo 3 cannot compete with any MMO atm because there is simply not enough content added. 1 reworked legendary in 3 months is not enough.
I dropped PoE about 2 years ago for the reasons stated above: shitty grapphics, awkward gameplay. But decided to return for current league and oh my gawd the game is so much better now. It's insane how it has improved over last 2 years. And leaderboards are just a small thing in PoE. there's racing events and such which happen during and between the leagues, plenty of stuff. Patches are daily. A lot of things to do. Do maps or farm cards or do prophecies or run in magic find gear or kill bosses. There's also 126 unique maps to explore lol. ONE HUNDRED AND TWENTY SIX maps lol. I only cleared 56 for now and league ends in 2 weeks.
Both games are good, both games have pros and cons. But D3 is for people who want to grind and make leaderboards. More casuals are drawn to poe because of "diversity" and casuals make up the majority of the player base. D3 is a great game but needs a new face.
Strongly disagree in this point.
D3 now is left for stubborn botters mostly. Leaderboards are long time ruined by botting.
+ some casuals who started playing seasons on console.
Most old competetitive players long time left to PoE, WOW and other games. Look at Alkaizer, Quin, Datmodz, Kripp, Empyrian, wudijo, Chainer. Some might be back (me including) when Necro comes out, but not for long.
PoE is not for casuals at all, casual will understand nothing there, the learning curve is waaay to complex. Of cause you can click your way through mercy but you know It takes a while to learn everything.
If you're playing D3 for nothing other than the leaderboards, you are missing the whole point of the game. It's supposed to be a fun hobby, not something to cry about once you realize your empty life isn't filled by accomplishments in a computer game. I ended up in a game with a bot last night and I wasn't complaining at all. It helped me get a ton of gear for my season wiz. I've been playing since D1 and all games are great. Perhaps if I was one of the best players then I too may be bored, but I play for fun and as of the last couple seasons am working to get all stash tabs. I got close last season and have beat GR 55 with 5 of the 6 required sets as of the time I post this. This will be my 2nd season to try for a stash tab and it should be my first time to get it. Pretty excited, not going to lie.
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I was testing the starter edition and i liked the game. But im not sure about the game duration. I want a game for play and play for weeks with a friend (We are going to buy the game together) and we need something "addictive" to play. I played D2 few years ago and enjoyed it a lot. But if this D3 is just finish the main campaign and repeat the same enemies and scenaries without any difference, im not sure to buy it.
Can i buy D3 for 13$ (just the original game) or for 20$ (With Soul Reaper). The expansion is worth?
Also, the game community still active? Recommend some classes for play duo?
Sorry for possibles mistakes, i'm bad at eng
The expansion is basically needed. Most of the end game content that is different from the campaign is unlocked by the expansion. I have convinced a few of my friends to buy the game and they played for 2-3 months before giving up playing it. I will say it is very addicting starting out but if you have no long term goals it can lose interest after that 2 month period of play.
Community is there but not huge or anything. If you have a friend to play with I would recommend just playing with them as the game is a lot of fun with a small group of friends.
The only thing I would say about playing duo starting out is that there are 2 classes for each primary stat and these classes can share gear fairly easily.
Dexterity - Monk and Demon Hunter
Intelligence - Wizard and Witch Doctor
Strength - Barbarian and Crusader
Beyond that I wouldn't worry too much about which classes you play. If you don't enjoy a class, leveling a new character is easy and quick in this game and your friend can power level you pretty quickly if they aren't interested in leveling another character.
I have to say buy it, i've spent 6000+ hours easy in this game, and now with seasons you get a fresh start and start equal to everyone, (although it's not my thing).
The game also has an infinite scaling endgame, which is alot better than d2's static difficulty runs, and you can progress for personal gains or for ranking within the leaderboards...
If you decide to play season or not in EU apply to the diablo fans eu clan and we will invite, you'll have ppl to play almost always.
EDIT: Buy the expansion ofc.
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Diablo is a specific kind of game. It's all about the grind. Yes, it is very simple and repetitive.
But in addition to the grind for better gear and more XP, there is replay value to be found in:
- Seasons/Season Journal
Everyone starts new. Of course you won't be able to compete on the leaderboards with the addicts who have time to play for 6-8 hrs per day, but it's still fun to progress through the Season Journey. It gives you specific things to do.
- Challenges
There are tons of challenges you can do, for both seasonal and non-seasonal/career. Each class also has multiple set dungeons you can complete, which by itself can provide hours of gameplay while you farm for the set pieces.
- Classes
There are six classes, each with at least two builds that are capable of high GR endgame progression. You can experiment with different playstyles and find the ones you like the best.
- Rare events/items
There are some things that happen very rarely that require you to just keep playing in order to find. And you can get cosmetic rewards from them.
So yeah...the core gameplay itself gets "old" after a while. But the game does give you a lot of things to do if you're interested.
For me $20 is a no-brainer for this game, that is unless you're not into farming/leveling/grinding. But that's what Diablo is all about, so if it's not your cup of tea, there's no reason to play this game.
"leveling a new character is easy and quick in this game"
Yes, particularly after you've invested time to build a high level character at least once. Your stash, paragon points, and cube powers are available to all of your characters within a season and non-seasonal respectively. Playing with friend on T10-T13 difficulty with Custerian Wristguards cubed power + puzzle ring + boon of the hoarder, you can get to level 70 in 15 minutes or less. Pretty much instantly. The most recent time doing this with my wife, I got her to level 69 in the vault, and within 30 seconds of starting a rift she was 70
1) Make sure you're Player 2 and not Player 1 already in a T13 game with your current hero
2) Drop out of the game
3) Sign in again, and join with a new hero.
It works, at least on Xbox One.
GAME IS DEAD - dont buy it !
Community is basicly dead too... Most of top players moved on...
Try Path of Exile - IT IS what diablo 3 should be and its FREE and it will have HUGE expansion in 2 months also FREEEEEEEEEEEEE Only thing u can buy is stash tabs and cosmetics... Its much more complexed game than d3 tho so takes more time to get into it but on the other hand - I moved to PoE few months ago and STILL i know maybe 15% of game... D3- ull be bored after week of GRs..
Yea d3 was A LOT of fun and i spent probably even more than 1500 hours ! (played on eu and us serv, played hc for a while too). But OPs question unfortunately was not posted here 5 seasons ago but today and as for today: game is dead and a paid new class for same content (dont even start with QOL changes that should be done seasons ago!) wont resurrect it. Nail to the coffing was HUDE NOTHING announced on blizzcon last year. Sure some may come back for NEcro launch... but that doesnt change the fact that game is on its last breath. SO again, buyin this gane NOW and paying for another expansion in upcoming weeks - something i do not recommend at this moment
again: why not try PoE tha is FREE. but its not as easy and str8 forward as d3.. u look for some challenge? u want to be forced to think once in a while? u want to be excited when something drops? Then U r on wrong forum ;/
and final word from me as i opened diablofans today only by mistake and not gonna post anymore... GAME WAS FUN until like 3 seasons ago.. now its just powercreep, no big game changes, same ol borin paragon farming...
RIP d3, see You all in diablo 4 hopefully sooner than in 10 years !
Peace out !
EDIT: "expansion massivly recommended" at least be honest with the guy, ITS A MUST not recommended (Ros)...
EDIT2: Bleu42 nicely put.. if ur good at d3, know what u r doing and have some party then u can be done with seasonal journey on 1st weekend lol then yea.. if u want to go for leaderboards and get some good spot on it (top 100) u r forced to grind same shit EVERY day not to fall behind in paragon farm.. on top of that U r forced to play 1-2 setups if u want to get into 4men party, no one will take U for higher content with some non meta build so dont be fooled by amount of sets for each class..
Path of exile is absolutely better than Diablo 3 in every single area that counts.
To your question OP; Yes, D3 is finish the campaign, then do nearly the exact same content while slightly upping the difficulty by a few % (greater rifts).
Actually, if you want a quick rundown;
Farm one area until level 70 with massacre bonuses.
Craft armor and weapons because who needs to rely on item drops in an ARPG.
Immediately skip a couple of the 17 difficulties and put it on T1 because then sets can drop.
Now stand in town and do regular rifts or bounties.
Spend a couple hours at most doing the Season Journey and then get handed your 6p set.
Upgrade rare weapons that you craft and get your sets' mandatory unique weapon.
Now skip even more difficulty levels and move on to T6.
Now do greater rifts until you run out of stones, then do regular rifts.
And now, because a game that's supposed to be around hunting loot instead just hands you everything, the only thing of worth is trying for leaderboards. So get ready to use 1 set for your class that's far better than the others, and have no choice in items because there's multiple mandatory legendaries that your set requires.
But don't worry, having all the items drop all the time just means you get to hunt for the same pieces with just slightly higher stats!
Take it from someone who plays both PoE and D3. They offer slightly different things but are very similar. Most people who play talk about economy. Which is the driving force behind gearing your character, and optimizing. It's the same thing season after season. Get rich, buy gear and grind maps. Leaderboard exists but its on forum and only based on how high your level is.
D3 gearing path is through drops, using the cube system. Therefore it lacks an economy they use to have RMH but it was removed, but tards wanted it removed and once it was people cried. Leaderboards are better in d3. if you're into competition it's more fun. Which is why i prefer d3 than PoE but i still play poe regardless.
People complain about lack of build diversity but PoE is similar you simply have an illusion of having a ton of builds but all good players play the top builds for efficiency. Most builds cant grind the higher tiered mps so you have to look up which is meta.
The fun part about poe though is literally ruining the economy if you're good at it. you can easily control prices and cause inflation or devalue the hell out of exalts which happened last season.
They also are going in the direction of D3 and casualizing the game. they have to and was evidence of this in the form of new abilities that were released (blade vortex anyone) before the announcement of a console version of poe.
"This forum has become far too toxic for any meaningful discussion of
the game. I hope they can sort this out and get back to making a game
we can all enjoy without cheaters ruining it for everyone. Best wishes
all."-Hammer's view on diablo 3 forums 2014
also i wish i only spent that much money but i bought the core game and expansion at time of release and getting the limited editions. @.@
"This forum has become far too toxic for any meaningful discussion of
the game. I hope they can sort this out and get back to making a game
we can all enjoy without cheaters ruining it for everyone. Best wishes
all."-Hammer's view on diablo 3 forums 2014
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It's better because at least you're actively pushing by making your character stronger and grift fishing (which decision making comes into play, are you smart enough to understand what mobs you want and can properly check through the next floors to see what you will get).
Yeah you can solo all day on PoE but the truth is the leaderboards are XP based, not through progression of tiered maps. That's boring. I can spend all day everyday grinding xp on PoE but that's not even in the least bit challenging. People just have a natural hate for d3 because they didn't want d3 they wanted a remastered version of D2.
I'm competitive so i prefer D3. Grinding for XP is all fine and dandy but that's not what kind of competitiveness i want.
"This forum has become far too toxic for any meaningful discussion of
the game. I hope they can sort this out and get back to making a game
we can all enjoy without cheaters ruining it for everyone. Best wishes
all."-Hammer's view on diablo 3 forums 2014
Couldn't agree more, PoE does have some mechanics that look interesting, and that's what made me try it, i did have fun but it's really an outdated game, graphics and gameplay wise it's just clunky, farming xp alot (just like d3's paragon), again, some interesting mechanics is everything PoE has tbh...
Ppl complain that in D3 it's too easy to gear, (GL getting full primals) but in PoE if you are lucky like i was some random dude in town is quitting and will give you a shit ton of awesome gear, so i find PoE maps alot easier than solo 90+ with a non meta build (which i have also done) in D3.
@OP: Diablo 3 got me 6000 hours of entertainment back since release and i still play it and plan on buying the necromancer.
Path of Exile got me to around 500 hours which is good for a small F2P game before becoming too grindy and abrasive to the eyes.
Try them both and judge for yourself is my best advice.
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Both games has advantages and disadvantages. PoE is in great shape right now and will be insanely better with a huge 3.0 expansion (where all game difficulties are no more).
Necromancer, on the other hand will have people playin for maybe a week or two. Maybe a month to farm all ancient legendary gear and sets and that's all, it's exhausted. Diablo 3 cannot compete with any MMO atm because there is simply not enough content added. 1 reworked legendary in 3 months is not enough.
I dropped PoE about 2 years ago for the reasons stated above: shitty grapphics, awkward gameplay. But decided to return for current league and oh my gawd the game is so much better now. It's insane how it has improved over last 2 years. And leaderboards are just a small thing in PoE. there's racing events and such which happen during and between the leagues, plenty of stuff. Patches are daily. A lot of things to do. Do maps or farm cards or do prophecies or run in magic find gear or kill bosses. There's also 126 unique maps to explore lol. ONE HUNDRED AND TWENTY SIX maps lol. I only cleared 56 for now and league ends in 2 weeks.
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I also really like the XP penalty in PoE. You actually need to watch your step and think twice before entering high level maps and some bosses. In D3 it's just straighforwards = you either fish for density or a boss. You die and resurrect and go on. In PoE if you die near end game you can lose a half day worth of XP.
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Yeah they have a lot of maps but the atlas system isn't designed for you to run all of them. You create an atlas for your needs. Like if you want certain maps to be higher tier, if you want experience etc. Want to run a thousand quays? leggo you know? And if you fuck your atlas you're forced to reroll, no resets.
Both games are good, both games have pros and cons. But D3 is for people who want to grind and make leaderboards. More casuals are drawn to poe because of "diversity" and casuals make up the majority of the player base. D3 is a great game but needs a new face.
"This forum has become far too toxic for any meaningful discussion of
the game. I hope they can sort this out and get back to making a game
we can all enjoy without cheaters ruining it for everyone. Best wishes
all."-Hammer's view on diablo 3 forums 2014
"This forum has become far too toxic for any meaningful discussion of
the game. I hope they can sort this out and get back to making a game
we can all enjoy without cheaters ruining it for everyone. Best wishes
all."-Hammer's view on diablo 3 forums 2014
I'm just gonna drop this here mostly as a reply to everyone saying the game is dead;
It's 5 years old, and still getting new content and regular updates. If you don't like the game anymore, then stop playing and leave the forums alone. If you think it's dead, then bury it and move on.
Now, on to whether or not you should buy it; yes. With expansion.
It's easy to find yourself playing hundreds of hours with a single class, even after the campaign, and moving on to other classes/building sets makes the game all the more replayable. Then there are a number of "secrets" that I found a lot of fun to track down, such as hidden levels, Easter egg items, and lore bits.
Further, the new Necromancer update is going to provide yet more content to massacre through, and bears the implication that D3 is not done yet, nor does it want to be. A number of people (myself included) theorize that this will be merely the first character pack, and that we'll be seeing new classes in the future.
All in all, it's a great game with prodigious longevity, and a lot of promise for the future. Well worth the cost.
Strongly disagree in this point.
D3 now is left for stubborn botters mostly. Leaderboards are long time ruined by botting.
+ some casuals who started playing seasons on console.
Most old competetitive players long time left to PoE, WOW and other games. Look at Alkaizer, Quin, Datmodz, Kripp, Empyrian, wudijo, Chainer. Some might be back (me including) when Necro comes out, but not for long.
PoE is not for casuals at all, casual will understand nothing there, the learning curve is waaay to complex. Of cause you can click your way through mercy but you know It takes a while to learn everything.
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If you're playing D3 for nothing other than the leaderboards, you are missing the whole point of the game. It's supposed to be a fun hobby, not something to cry about once you realize your empty life isn't filled by accomplishments in a computer game. I ended up in a game with a bot last night and I wasn't complaining at all. It helped me get a ton of gear for my season wiz. I've been playing since D1 and all games are great. Perhaps if I was one of the best players then I too may be bored, but I play for fun and as of the last couple seasons am working to get all stash tabs. I got close last season and have beat GR 55 with 5 of the 6 required sets as of the time I post this. This will be my 2nd season to try for a stash tab and it should be my first time to get it. Pretty excited, not going to lie.