people don't want the taint of WoW on the game that's why? Look at WoW, a Blizzard product that has been rotting away since BURNING CRUSADE ENDED, and they still cant get it right? It's a cash cow essentially and people don't want diablo 3 to be another fail cash cow? No one plays WoW because of the quality of the game, people play WoW because of addiction, or, they cant find another MMO out there yet that gives them what they want. If someone tells me they play WoW because it's a great game, they're trolling. WoW has NOT been a great innovative omg amazing game since BC, and I've played from day 1, to about 4 months into Cata. I understand why SC players want no influence, I understand why Diablo fans want no influece what so ever. Not even the name of an item. You dont pay homage to a shit game that hasn't done anything good since what? 07?
Id want a fucking Lost Vikings influenced item or a SC influenced item before you ever touch anything in Diablo with a WoW item.
Yeah boy, lost vikings, better than WotLK and Cata combined, peace fanboi!
All of your points are so bland it's ridiculous.
WoW currently has more people than I believe have ever played Diablo 1 and 2 combined. Not to mention there has been about 15 million more in the past, a lot of which are looking forward to reentering in case Blizz decides to implement something interesting, like for example an expansion with pandas.
D3 can never be a cash cow simply because it sells once and that's it, the RMAH is optional and most people will simply use their free slots per week to try and cash in some change. D3 will get a grand total of 2 expansions and if you believe $150 or so is much then... damn. I don't see ANY way in the world that WoW can influence D3 to become a cash cow in any way whatsoever.
WoW is still one of the THE best games in the industry to this date. If a new players comes in and tries the game he might literally get lost from all the content that has been implemented in the game since launch. There's probably more than a thousand hours of gameplay which even long trilogies of games can't come close to. It has something for everyone - exploration, raids, dungeons, battlegrounds, arena, vanity items, hundreds of achievements and so on.
I've been following SC2 since before it was officially announced and not once have a read a single topic in any forum that says players don't want any influence from WoW. I've no idea what you're talking about there. If anything they welcomed the implementation of Bnet crossgame chat so they can stay in contact with their WoW buds. Also metaachievements that we will probably see a short time after D3 comes out.
You don't pay homage to a game that.... dear God. EVEN if WoW hasn't done anything interesting since '07, even if the game ended that year, WoW not only set an example of the high quality of games that might be created but took the title of best selling MMORPG and is the bane of all MMO developers out there. Nothing out there can even come close, not even the Star Wars clone that is about to be released. Nothing can scratch its surface. And that makes the game shit and removes the right of its own developers to pay tribute to it? You don't even deserve to be able to get D3 good sir. Not even a chance.
I'll probably add a lot more to this post tomorrow since I'm pretty much falling asleep right now. But God damn you deserve it. Hopefully a moderator locks this because, as it's obvious, a lot of people won't drop this conversation.
people don't want the taint of WoW on the game that's why? Look at WoW, a Blizzard product that has been rotting away since BURNING CRUSADE ENDED, and they still cant get it right? It's a cash cow essentially and people don't want diablo 3 to be another fail cash cow? No one plays WoW because of the quality of the game, people play WoW because of addiction, or, they cant find another MMO out there yet that gives them what they want. If someone tells me they play WoW because it's a great game, they're trolling. WoW has NOT been a great innovative omg amazing game since BC, and I've played from day 1, to about 4 months into Cata. I understand why SC players want no influence, I understand why Diablo fans want no influece what so ever. Not even the name of an item. You dont pay homage to a shit game that hasn't done anything good since what? 07?
Id want a fucking Lost Vikings influenced item or a SC influenced item before you ever touch anything in Diablo with a WoW item.
Yeah boy, lost vikings, better than WotLK and Cata combined, peace fanboi!
All of your points are so bland it's ridiculous.
WoW currently has more people than I believe have ever played Diablo 1 and 2 combined. Not to mention there has been about 15 million more in the past, a lot of which are looking forward to reentering in case Blizz decides to implement something interesting, like for example an expansion with pandas.
D3 can never be a cash cow simply because it sells once and that's it, the RMAH is optional and most people will simply use their free slots per week to try and cash in some change. D3 will get a grand total of 2 expansions and if you believe $150 or so is much then... damn. I don't see ANY way in the world that WoW can influence D3 to become a cash cow in any way whatsoever.
WoW is still one of the THE best games in the industry to this date. If a new players comes in and tries the game he might literally get lost from all the content that has been implemented in the game since launch. There's probably more than a thousand hours of gameplay which even long trilogies of games can't come close to. It has something for everyone - exploration, raids, dungeons, battlegrounds, arena, vanity items, hundreds of achievements and so on.
I've been following SC2 since before it was officially announced and not once have a read a single topic in any forum that says players don't want any influence from WoW. I've no idea what you're talking about there. If anything they welcomed the implementation of Bnet crossgame chat so they can stay in contact with their WoW buds. Also metaachievements that we will probably see a short time after D3 comes out.
You don't pay homage to a game that.... dear God. EVEN if WoW hasn't done anything interesting since '07, even if the game ended that year, WoW not only set an example of the high quality of games that might be created but took the title of best selling MMORPG and is the bane of all MMO developers out there. Nothing out there can even come close, not even the Star Wars clone that is about to be released. Nothing can scratch its surface. And that makes the game shit and removes the right of its own developers to pay tribute to it? You don't even deserve to be able to get D3 good sir. Not even a chance.
I'll probably add a lot more to this post tomorrow since I'm pretty much falling asleep right now. But God damn you deserve it. Hopefully a moderator locks this because, as it's obvious, a lot of people won't drop this conversation.
More people combined, because it came at a different era of gaming? more people game now then they did in at D1 and D2 times? but nt there
WoW is not the best? sorry... at anypoint. You seemed to have confused popularity with quality. If we're using that debate of whats popular is whats good, then damn I guess Beiber is the best damn thing since slice bread for the music industry. I guess Lil Wayne is the king if rap you know since he is too good. If you confuse whats popular with what has quality you should stop talking now ;0
and it took the title because instead of GW going on making its shitty expansions to compete with WoW it said fuck it, we're coming back with GW2, and we're coming back hard. Since GW announced it was no longer making expansions, what MMO has come out with great quality to compete? WAR? unbalanced. AION? Grindfest. Conan? Lulnotmuchtodo WoW only started to dominate when its only REAL competition in the NA market stepped down to make its successor. See I dont rate games based on fanboyism and subjective opinions, I do so based on the actual quality.
Here you go, Wotlk -> HERP DERP NAX THAT WE ALREADY CLEARED, followed by that herp derp Ulduar that had NOTHING to do with the plot being established pre wotlk but actually turned out to be the only raid worth doing and fun in the entire expansion, HERP DERP COLOSSEUM PVE OF FAIL AND WASTE OF TIME, then making the Arthas raid ICC trivial, a joke, then put lockout timers to prevent people from rushing through the easy content instead of developing difficult content.
Cata -> No.
And to your star wars comment? you dont know much about MMOs do you? Did you miss 6mo ago when the people funding the creation of the game said it looked like shit? played like shit, was shit? Starwars will only get subs based on fanboyism which there is a lot of that with the starwars franchise. Kinda like WoW, but in space! No, GW2 and Tera will be the new competition. GW2 specifically, since not many of the NA crowd will look to play another Korean game due to the fail hype grindfest that Aion was.
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"...We few, we happy few, we band of brothers; for he to-day that sheds his blood with me
shall be my brother..."
Oh, any before someone says "GW FANBOI" I never played gw, i just kept up with the news and the statistics of both MMOs back in the day because as a WoW player I was interested in the competition, never enough to look. Yeah I hope they do lock it for being derailed.
D3 Should have no WoW influence, WoW is trash at the current date, has been trash since BC. Vanil? BC? FUCKING WTF AMAZING OMG GAME SNORT THAT LIKE LINES OF YOU KNOW WHAT! post-BC throw that shit in the trash.
Why would I want D3 to have any sort of relation to trash? noty. Being connected via bnet to see more poor friends still playing WoW is enough for connection to WoW for me.
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"...We few, we happy few, we band of brothers; for he to-day that sheds his blood with me
shall be my brother..."
WoW is not the best? sorry... at anypoint, you seem to confused popularity with quality. If we're using that debate of whats popular is whats good, then damn I guess Beiber is the best damn thing since slice bread for the music industry. I guess Lil Wayne is the king if rap you know since he is too good. If you confuse whats popular with what has quality you should stop talking now ;0
You try to hard to explain to those indoctrinated people that quality is over quantity, its like explaining to a monkey how to use a fork.
WoW Fanboyism: turning gamers into monkeys who cant use forks since post-bc
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"...We few, we happy few, we band of brothers; for he to-day that sheds his blood with me
shall be my brother..."
Also, speaking as a moderator... stay on topic, everyone or I'll have to issue warnings. The topic is "What WoW weapons/armor would you like to see in Diablo 3?". Trolling the thread will only get it locked and yourselves warned.
Yeah, D3 is supposed to be a deep, dark, Gothic inspired hacknslash, dungeon grinding masterpiece.
But lets just insert items from this really bright coloured MMO that hasnt done anything amazing since its first expansion, its now on its third. Even the Art department went to sleep for 90% of the gear in WotLK and Cata.
In no way could the gear even be applied across the Gap. If WoW was maybe a deep, dark, gothic inspired MMO, I could see it being applicable. Even if it hasnt done anything relevant in YEARS, at least the art style is the same.
I know we will see easter eggs, we always do in blizzard games, but adding gear paying homage to wow, dumbest idea ever.
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"...We few, we happy few, we band of brothers; for he to-day that sheds his blood with me
shall be my brother..."
To add on to Fing's comment, not all items are colorful and bright as well.
I referred to the Krol Blade which is a giant 1 hand scimitar like sword. Just a plain, simple, huge, 1 hander sword.
Other "famous" weapons like Gorehowl or Doomhammer, etc. are quite the regular, but awesome, looking weapons as well.
And not to try and start anything, but having 1 or 2, relatively, small and simple references should not impact anything in the game or the Diablo franchise or universe.
I get that there are apparently "enormous" fans here, but there is no reason to lash out or be negative to those who would just THINK that it would be cool to see something. It's all hope and theory, nothing is set in stone.
Just my two coppers (teehee)
Can we please stop hating on other blizzard titles just because we're afraid diablo will become something other than diablo. I personally have loved every blizzard game I've played at one point or another and wish to support the company that's made many of my favorite games so long as they continue making great games.
WoW currently has more people than I believe have ever played Diablo 1 and 2 combined. Not to mention there has been about 15 million more in the past, a lot of which are looking forward to reentering in case Blizz decides to implement something interesting, like for example an expansion with pandas.
D3 can never be a cash cow simply because it sells once and that's it, the RMAH is optional and most people will simply use their free slots per week to try and cash in some change. D3 will get a grand total of 2 expansions and if you believe $150 or so is much then... damn. I don't see ANY way in the world that WoW can influence D3 to become a cash cow in any way whatsoever.
WoW is still one of the THE best games in the industry to this date. If a new players comes in and tries the game he might literally get lost from all the content that has been implemented in the game since launch. There's probably more than a thousand hours of gameplay which even long trilogies of games can't come close to. It has something for everyone - exploration, raids, dungeons, battlegrounds, arena, vanity items, hundreds of achievements and so on.
I've been following SC2 since before it was officially announced and not once have a read a single topic in any forum that says players don't want any influence from WoW. I've no idea what you're talking about there. If anything they welcomed the implementation of Bnet crossgame chat so they can stay in contact with their WoW buds. Also metaachievements that we will probably see a short time after D3 comes out.
You don't pay homage to a game that.... dear God. EVEN if WoW hasn't done anything interesting since '07, even if the game ended that year, WoW not only set an example of the high quality of games that might be created but took the title of best selling MMORPG and is the bane of all MMO developers out there. Nothing out there can even come close, not even the Star Wars clone that is about to be released. Nothing can scratch its surface. And that makes the game shit and removes the right of its own developers to pay tribute to it? You don't even deserve to be able to get D3 good sir. Not even a chance.
I'll probably add a lot more to this post tomorrow since I'm pretty much falling asleep right now. But God damn you deserve it. Hopefully a moderator locks this because, as it's obvious, a lot of people won't drop this conversation.
Ha. Bagstone.
More people combined, because it came at a different era of gaming? more people game now then they did in at D1 and D2 times? but nt there
WoW is not the best? sorry... at anypoint. You seemed to have confused popularity with quality. If we're using that debate of whats popular is whats good, then damn I guess Beiber is the best damn thing since slice bread for the music industry. I guess Lil Wayne is the king if rap you know since he is too good. If you confuse whats popular with what has quality you should stop talking now ;0
and it took the title because instead of GW going on making its shitty expansions to compete with WoW it said fuck it, we're coming back with GW2, and we're coming back hard. Since GW announced it was no longer making expansions, what MMO has come out with great quality to compete? WAR? unbalanced. AION? Grindfest. Conan? Lulnotmuchtodo WoW only started to dominate when its only REAL competition in the NA market stepped down to make its successor. See I dont rate games based on fanboyism and subjective opinions, I do so based on the actual quality.
Here you go, Wotlk -> HERP DERP NAX THAT WE ALREADY CLEARED, followed by that herp derp Ulduar that had NOTHING to do with the plot being established pre wotlk but actually turned out to be the only raid worth doing and fun in the entire expansion, HERP DERP COLOSSEUM PVE OF FAIL AND WASTE OF TIME, then making the Arthas raid ICC trivial, a joke, then put lockout timers to prevent people from rushing through the easy content instead of developing difficult content.
Cata -> No.
And to your star wars comment? you dont know much about MMOs do you? Did you miss 6mo ago when the people funding the creation of the game said it looked like shit? played like shit, was shit? Starwars will only get subs based on fanboyism which there is a lot of that with the starwars franchise. Kinda like WoW, but in space! No, GW2 and Tera will be the new competition. GW2 specifically, since not many of the NA crowd will look to play another Korean game due to the fail hype grindfest that Aion was.
for he to-day that sheds his blood with me
shall be my brother..."
D3 Should have no WoW influence, WoW is trash at the current date, has been trash since BC. Vanil? BC? FUCKING WTF AMAZING OMG GAME SNORT THAT LIKE LINES OF YOU KNOW WHAT! post-BC throw that shit in the trash.
Why would I want D3 to have any sort of relation to trash? noty. Being connected via bnet to see more poor friends still playing WoW is enough for connection to WoW for me.
for he to-day that sheds his blood with me
shall be my brother..."
WoW Fanboyism: turning gamers into monkeys who cant use forks since post-bc
for he to-day that sheds his blood with me
shall be my brother..."
What does that even mean? that sentence is quite random and has really nothing to do with my comment at all, what is it to understand here?
One is an MMO with more of a comic/upbeat/humorous setting at times while Diablo 3 tries to keep the mood a bit darker.
I'd also like Sixen's Skullcap in D3.
Also, speaking as a moderator... stay on topic, everyone or I'll have to issue warnings. The topic is "What WoW weapons/armor would you like to see in Diablo 3?". Trolling the thread will only get it locked and yourselves warned.
But lets just insert items from this really bright coloured MMO that hasnt done anything amazing since its first expansion, its now on its third. Even the Art department went to sleep for 90% of the gear in WotLK and Cata.
In no way could the gear even be applied across the Gap. If WoW was maybe a deep, dark, gothic inspired MMO, I could see it being applicable. Even if it hasnt done anything relevant in YEARS, at least the art style is the same.
I know we will see easter eggs, we always do in blizzard games, but adding gear paying homage to wow, dumbest idea ever.
for he to-day that sheds his blood with me
shall be my brother..."
Just clearing this up cause some of you appear to be confused.
I referred to the Krol Blade which is a giant 1 hand scimitar like sword. Just a plain, simple, huge, 1 hander sword.
Other "famous" weapons like Gorehowl or Doomhammer, etc. are quite the regular, but awesome, looking weapons as well.
And not to try and start anything, but having 1 or 2, relatively, small and simple references should not impact anything in the game or the Diablo franchise or universe.
I get that there are apparently "enormous" fans here, but there is no reason to lash out or be negative to those who would just THINK that it would be cool to see something. It's all hope and theory, nothing is set in stone.
Just my two coppers (teehee)
Same reason we smiled when we saw a Wirt's Leg on WoW?