If another developer didn't like this statement something would of been said or his post edited.
It's hard to make private games with friends when you can't make friends do to games being interrupted by PKs...
You just shot yourself in the foot. Thanks for proving this.
3,608,091 Non-PvP total
2,406,074 PvP total
50/50? Try again. That's over 1 million more people on Non-PvP.
Sure WE'RE the annoying vocal minority... :rolleyes:
Sweet dreams about killing puppies or whatever it is PKs dream about.
40/60, 45/55. Okay - if you want to be technical. Sure.
WoW numbers show us that the PvP community is alive and well. Having things like PK, PvP and Griefing is good for business. We're talking about millions of potential sales based on that alone. PvP and PK will be in D3.
I'll shoot myself in the foot when D3 comes out and I'm proven wrong.
40/60, 45/55. Okay - if you want to be technical. Sure.
WoW numbers show us that the PvP community is alive and well. Having things like PK, PvP and Griefing is good for business. We're talking about millions of potential sales based on that alone. PvP and PK will be in D3.
I'll shoot myself in the foot when D3 comes out and I'm proven wrong.
PVP is NOT the same as PK and griefing. PKing is a sorry excuse for PvPing for people that can't handle a even challenge.
Get real, folks, the diablo you all knew is dead, a few years ago i said right here in this forum that D3 had a pretty good chance of being blizzard first bust (i was flamed to death ofc), and what you know, its not even beta and its already looking that way.
Just out of curiosity.... have you checked the validity of that statement? I just spent a good long while looking for any evidence of that post.... it was quoted from a person with no actual evidence that the statement was real. Find me proof, and I'll be at your mercy.
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Get real, folks, the diablo you all knew is dead, a few years ago i said right here in this forum that D3 had a pretty good chance of being blizzard first bust (i was flamed to death ofc), and what you know, its not even beta and its already looking that way.
That's why when you were killed by another player your ear dropped? Okay sure what ever you say. I guess the hostile button never really was mean't for PvP huh????
Having a PvP mechanism, i.e. the Hostile button, doesn't mean the game was designed for PvP with PvE elements... Just because an AK47 has a safety on it doesn't mean it's designed for safety with killing elements.
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Ok Im going to have to post on this. This has gone on for far to long.
#1 yes they probably will take out the PK factor ruining Diablo 3 but thats something that we cannot really stop because Blizzard is a big company and isnt going to listen.
#2 For all of you sticking up for WOW and wanting Diablo 3 to be like WOW (A completely different franchise) go play WOW please. Diablo 2 is actually part of the Diablo series and was a huge success so if your saying "Well this worked in WOW", Ill just rebuttle with "Well PKing worked in D2".
#3 If they take out PKing in Diablo 3 its going to decrease sales drastically and he is absolutely right (I read his entire post) The game is going to dry out quick if they make it so based on cooperative and everyone is just going to go back to Diablo 2 or WOW. Diablo 3 will fall apart soon after its release.
#4 I will be one of those pissed customers and if they take PVP/Pking out of the game than I am just going to buy it to beat the storyline and than Im going to go back to Diablo 2 and play it for a little bit and quit because Ive played it for so long and than just go back to Cabal Online.
#5 If you think your going to be one of those angry customers than try out Cabal Online. Cabal Online is the best MMO I have played and has lighting fast combat and excellent PVP.
Ok Im going to have to post on this. This has gone on for far to long.
#1 yes they probably will take out the PK factor ruining Diablo 3 but thats something that we cannot really stop because Blizzard is a big company and isnt going to listen.
The big company won't listen to the people who are supplying them with the money that nets them profit. You're right. >.>
#2 For all of you sticking up for WOW and wanting Diablo 3 to be like WOW (A completely different franchise) go play WOW please. Diablo 2 is actually part of the Diablo series and was a huge success so if your saying "Well this worked in WOW", Ill just rebuttle with "Well PKing worked in D2".
Obviously PKing didn't work out in D2, otherwise there wouldn't be people voicing a strong opinion against it, now would there be?
#3 If they take out PKing in Diablo 3 its going to decrease sales drastically and he is absolutely right (I read his entire post) The game is going to dry out quick if they make it so based on cooperative and everyone is just going to go back to Diablo 2 or WOW. Diablo 3 will fall apart soon after its release.
This is based on non-factual evidence presented by the opinions of a guy who enjoys ruining the pleasure of others. What support do you have that sales wouldn't boom? There are games out there that are PvE based games that are thriving across the world. Final Fantasy XI is one of the most prominent of them.
#4 I will be one of those pissed customers and if they take PVP/Pking out of the game than I am just going to buy it to beat the storyline and than Im going to go back to Diablo 2 and play it for a little bit and quit because Ive played it for so long and than just go back to Cabal Online.
Go then. If you're so quick to snub your nose at a quality franchise with quality lore and quality gameplay, we really don't want you to be a part of our gaming community.
#5 If you think your going to be one of those angry customers than try out Cabal Online. Cabal Online is the best MMO I have played and has lighting fast combat and excellent PVP.
See above response.
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yes, im talking in terms of a wow pvp server though (where u can actually go kill a low level player in a neutral zone). you can always "pvp" in arenas on a pve server.
people play on pvp servers because they like the option of open ended world pvp.
Not everyone. I know plenty that were on PvP because they had friends there. Large font doesn't make you cool.
PvP isn't PKing.
I'm done arguing about it. Blizzard will do what they see fit. There is no debating that.
whoa you actually have friends now? cool. maybe you should ask them to come play D2 with you so they can protect you from all the big bad pks running around ruining every game
Get real, folks, the diablo you all knew is dead, a few years ago i said right here in this forum that D3 had a pretty good chance of being blizzard first bust (i was flamed to death ofc), and what you know, its not even beta and its already looking that way.
whoa you actually have friends now? cool. maybe you should ask them to come play D2 with you so they can protect you from all the big bad pks running around ruining every game
Yes, because everyone I met on WoW I became best friends with and still talk to, and everyone of those people play D3.
Can you stop addressing me now in your feeble attempt to insult me? I'm trying to leave the discussion on "I guess we agree to disagree".
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By doing this pvp in D3 better be damn good, fun, and rewarding... as sanctuary is a much safer place now.
btw diabloiii.net has a very interesting column, interview with a pk. I think it's worth reading.
Many that play in wow pvp servers still whine about getting ganked and griefed. It is fun at the beginning but when ur playing ur alt and lvl 70 guys gank in low level areas .. eh. Also you are gathering something important reagents and u see enemy do u really wanna fight him? What happens is when he ressurrects he will backstab u when you are low on mana or life when you are fighting some mobs. This leads to circle that u try to revenge again and after all that you realise that if u had not killed him in the first place you would have gotten a lot more of those reagents in the time you did the pointless griefing.
40/60, 45/55. Okay - if you want to be technical. Sure.
WoW numbers show us that the PvP community is alive and well. Having things like PK, PvP and Griefing is good for business. We're talking about millions of potential sales based on that alone. PvP and PK will be in D3.
I'll shoot myself in the foot when D3 comes out and I'm proven wrong.
PVP is NOT the same as PK and griefing. PKing is a sorry excuse for PvPing for people that can't handle a even challenge.
Unfortunately, yes. But OathofChaos is talking about the diablo franchise, and since D3 is not out yet, well...
PK and Griefing happens on WoW pvp servers all the time. The 2 million players who play on those realms seem fine with that.
Well all argument about PKing aside, that's the old developer, we have new ones now with a different vision in mind.
Also we saw what happened with PvP/PKing in Hellgate: London so apparently they didn't stay true to themselves.
You think they all play PvP servers because they like being killed?...
Some play because they have friends on PvP servers, that's the only reason I stayed on a PvP server until I quit.
You think they all play PvP servers because they like being killed?...
Some play because they have friends on PvP servers, that's the only reason I stayed on a PvP server until I quit.
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I've never played hellgate: London, but that's not diablo, is it?
I've been reading some of the old posts, aren't you guys taking this pk vs pvp discussion a little too serious?
Probably, I honestly don't care much either way. It'd just be nice to see more freedom to play open games and not have PKs crash your party.
Having a PvP mechanism, i.e. the Hostile button, doesn't mean the game was designed for PvP with PvE elements... Just because an AK47 has a safety on it doesn't mean it's designed for safety with killing elements.
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THEY PLAY ON PVP SERVERS BECAUSE THEY LIKE PVP
#1 yes they probably will take out the PK factor ruining Diablo 3 but thats something that we cannot really stop because Blizzard is a big company and isnt going to listen.
#2 For all of you sticking up for WOW and wanting Diablo 3 to be like WOW (A completely different franchise) go play WOW please. Diablo 2 is actually part of the Diablo series and was a huge success so if your saying "Well this worked in WOW", Ill just rebuttle with "Well PKing worked in D2".
#3 If they take out PKing in Diablo 3 its going to decrease sales drastically and he is absolutely right (I read his entire post) The game is going to dry out quick if they make it so based on cooperative and everyone is just going to go back to Diablo 2 or WOW. Diablo 3 will fall apart soon after its release.
#4 I will be one of those pissed customers and if they take PVP/Pking out of the game than I am just going to buy it to beat the storyline and than Im going to go back to Diablo 2 and play it for a little bit and quit because Ive played it for so long and than just go back to Cabal Online.
#5 If you think your going to be one of those angry customers than try out Cabal Online. Cabal Online is the best MMO I have played and has lighting fast combat and excellent PVP.
Yes, but as we've already established PvP =/= PK
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Not everyone. I know plenty that were on PvP because they had friends there. Large font doesn't make you cool.
PvP isn't PKing.
I'm done arguing about it. Blizzard will do what they see fit. There is no debating that.
The big company won't listen to the people who are supplying them with the money that nets them profit. You're right. >.>
Obviously PKing didn't work out in D2, otherwise there wouldn't be people voicing a strong opinion against it, now would there be?
This is based on non-factual evidence presented by the opinions of a guy who enjoys ruining the pleasure of others. What support do you have that sales wouldn't boom? There are games out there that are PvE based games that are thriving across the world. Final Fantasy XI is one of the most prominent of them.
Go then. If you're so quick to snub your nose at a quality franchise with quality lore and quality gameplay, we really don't want you to be a part of our gaming community.
See above response.
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yes, im talking in terms of a wow pvp server though (where u can actually go kill a low level player in a neutral zone). you can always "pvp" in arenas on a pve server.
people play on pvp servers because they like the option of open ended world pvp.
whoa you actually have friends now? cool. maybe you should ask them to come play D2 with you so they can protect you from all the big bad pks running around ruining every game
By doing this pvp in D3 better be damn good, fun, and rewarding... as sanctuary is a much safer place now.
btw diabloiii.net has a very interesting column, interview with a pk. I think it's worth reading.
http://www.diii.net/columns/671461/bone-appetit-3
Yes, because everyone I met on WoW I became best friends with and still talk to, and everyone of those people play D3.
Can you stop addressing me now in your feeble attempt to insult me? I'm trying to leave the discussion on "I guess we agree to disagree".
I'll give it a read why not.
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