DSII Had as many dark and dreary atmosphears as i did light and happy, the desert and jungle areas were not the dark and dreary that you show here. Personaly the reason i dont like DS is the controls. thats it. but you also understand something.... DS does not look like wow. It is its own style of artistry... inspired by Diablo.
That's fine, but actually you saying that it is directly inspired by Diablo raises the question ( does a game that tried to copy Diablo mood exactly look good ? ), i say no, that's my opinion that i base on the pics up there, it is clear that pitch black darkness dosn't create a mood any more, it is just 3D void, it invokes nothing, i'm sure D3 dev team studied that any they did'nt like the results because they said they did there different graphical looks before settling with the current, so why repeat the mistake that other games made before.
The Styles of Diablo III can be seen in Warcraft (Just not WOW but also WCIII) Upon looking at the barb screen shots and the warrior screen shots i realized that the environment looks the exact same. the stones looked the exact same. the railings looked the exact same. this poses a problem for me personaly. This umong a myriod of others have noticed. Now dont get me wrong i understand not everyone shareing the same opinion. However at least in here, more see the reseblence.
The resemblance is very slight nt all that reaction, they are not going to remake the whole graphics because of that, and again the pics show clearly that D3 is X100 times better than WoW in terms of quailty and color palettes.
The argument goes that D3 is in 3D... hence it looks like wow. Please people there are so many 3D games that look nothing like wow in character design and in environmental design. The flaw is not in the 3D element that looks wonderfuly, the flaw is that at present with the elements created thus far. The design they have given us looks to heavily influenced by the wrong source. Colorful with dreary.. thats fine. just not Warcraft colorful please.
Can you show me one H&S game that looks unique, there ain't any as far as i know of, all either go for extremely realsitic looks which results in boring looking games, or go for extremely cartoonish looks which make them look kiddy, D3 is just trying to strike a balancve between the two, but many people are too biased they fail to see that.
I dont want torches that burn red... and the dungeon looking like the torch burns green. (like in wow)
Green or Red, i don't understand what you want here, toches burn red in real-life, and the Green is merely ambient color reflections to set a mood for the game.
and yes... this is my opinion, listen to it... or ignore it, it is both your and blizzards right. freedom of speech. gota love it... or hate it.
I don't mind your opinion as long as you keep your cool and make a good argument, which you are doing now
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Max gamma? That is a promotional D1 screenshot made by Blizzard back in a day. And those locations from D2 look even more colorful when you lower the gamma. Also, those screenshots are nothing. Diablo is colorful all the way through. Have you forgoten the exterior in A2? Forgotten about the Arcane Sanctuaty? What some people here want is literally a dark, gray game where you can't see a thing and do not convey a single good or bad emotion. A gray emotionless world.
fellows - look now - The Elder Scroll - Morrowin , which is released in 2002 year by Bethesda software has more scared atmosphere than Diablo 3, and Morriwnd have really much better graphic than what we currently see in Diablo 3 , i wont go future and compare it more , becouse wow Engine sux to the core.
the crappy Silkroad - which is permanetly free and funny have beter engine than Diablo 3 ... ROFL !
So - BLIZZARD -we see nothing but one game that should be release long ago ( like in 2002-2003 year )
this engine is outaged !
use some really good engine, or start selling it right now , before other games take it place . IMAO .
Most overhead view games looks like crap when compared to today's first person or even 3rd person games, WoW being the exception of course as it was made to run on low end computers. D3 is coming out what late this year or early next year? When it drops compare the graphics to Age of Conan, and D3 will fall short completely.
Now, on to this retarded argument about the design of the game. I like the way it looks, I love the fact that they are trying to make this a world game sort of like TQ, instead of the constant dungeon crawl. I saw those screenshots those freaks put up on how the game should actually look, and theres one thing in common for all of them: they all look like its night. So my advice to them is to try going outside during the day and see how bright it is, see how the colors look like. Then to go outside during the night and compare. See the difference???
I mean seriously since when did the world of Diablo have no sun?? The last time that happened I fixed it.
DIABLO 2 USES AN 8-BIT COLOR PALETTE (256) - THAT MEANS THAT MOVING THE SLIDER ANYWHERE OTHER THAN IN THE MIDDLE POSITION WILL MAKE IT LOOSE THE COLORATION.
It is just matters of opinion! The discussion got out of hand some days ago, and doesn't really make sense anymore. I can understand that people prefer darker graphics in D3, but all I think it's overreacted to start a petition for that. Maybe you should just lower your brightness/gamma setting after you actually bought the game?
For me graphics don't make a game, it's probably the least important aspect for me. For some it is most important. I didn't expect it would be such a big deal for diablo fans though. I don't see how it is a graphic based game.
Anyway everyone can have their opinion. And I am fine with all the comments, as long as Blizzard just continue to work on d3 like they did before releasing the gameplay vid, else I'd be dissapointed.
even blizzard admitted already that its much moire colorful than D1 and D2. You trying to prove the opposite just shows how desperate you are.
Actually they said the complete opposite during the Art Panels, they said they took screenshots from D1 and D2 and found them very colorful and not as dark or bland as people THINK.
The only extra color that they added is the ambient color which IMO looks a lot better than pitch black which looks lame and has been done before in TQ and DS dungeons.
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Originally Posted by Dimebog Max gamma? That is a promotional D1 screenshot made by Blizzard back in a day. And those locations from D2 look even more colorful when you lower the gamma. Also, those screenshots are nothing. Diablo is colorful all the way through. Have you forgoten the exterior in A2? Forgotten about the Arcane Sanctuaty? What some people here want is literally a dark, gray game where you can't see a thing and do not convey a single good or bad emotion. A gray emotionless world.
Nice. Lies now too.
Want me to start D2 now and make a screenshot for you with the slider in the middle?
Uhm, Act 2 was a desert scene. Of course it was bright. It was the only act that was that bright. No one says that they want no bright scenes at all in the game. But when even the dungeons are so colorful already, then how can it look at bright places?
Anyway, your point is complete bullshit. even blizzard admitted already that its much moire colorful than D1 and D2. You trying to prove the opposite just shows how desperate you are.
The shot with the three character classes and the skeleton king IS a BLIZZARD promotional pic, actually that was the first pic of Diablo 1 that i ever saw, don't call people liars for no reason.
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And how colorful is this screenshot?
It was just taken with the gamma slider in the middle.
Notice the skeleton being a little brighter because mobs get highlighted by the game when you mouseover them.
I added it to the post, since I doubt our ignorant friends will click the link.
Did you even read what i said, the Devs said so after taking screenshots and picking colors from them, don't make yourself look like a ..... sigh whatever, i made my point, you are simply calling the Dev's idiots, way to go :rolleyes:
Go get informed and watch the freaking Art Panels first before arguing.
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That looks quite nice, but are you sure that's an in-game shot not promotional art ?
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That argument basically states that because WoW like graphics are appealing to females (in this case your wife) young kids (in this case your two younger children) and people who never play these type of games (in this case your oldest son) Blizzard should throw what "Diablo" is in the bin and try to appeal to those demographics? Of course your kids will find d3 more exciting than d2, it looks HUGELY better visually, it just doesn't look like a Diablo sequel should.
Diablo was a successful enough without appealing to girls and young kids, and Blizzard is successful enough with WoW to not need to gender bend the diablo series. I see no reason why a d3 with similar but more "fitting" graphics would not be just as interesting.
See, you're one of the fans I was talking about. I never said anything about WoW like graphics. Maybe it can be implied, but not the way I read it.
I see your point, but your reaction and statements back up my post. And you didn't put forth an argument for the fact that I like it better, despite being a Diablo fan.
Blizzard has gone a different design route for several reasons, but put them all in a funnel and what comes out the bottom is Diablo 3. Sure WoW is successful, as SC2 will most certainly be. But IMO, Blizzard feels this way:
Why should we settle for 30 million dollars when we can make twice more by appealing to a wider range of audience. The dedication and passion of Diablo fans is nice, but nice don't pay the rent.
All I'm offering is logical reasons why they went the direction they did with the graphic design. I doubt they will lose many true fans because of it. .
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People that liked what Diablo 3 looked like are not going to sit here and bitch about how its good. People that want it to change are much more vocal. The poll is flawed because of that FACT.
People that liked what Diablo 3 looked like are not going to sit here and bitch about how its good. People that want it to change are much more vocal. The poll is flawed because of that FACT.
Sig- worthy :thumbsup:
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People that liked what Diablo 3 looked like are not going to sit here and bitch about how its good. People that want it to change are much more vocal. The poll is flawed because of that FACT.
Haha that screenshot is from Dungeon Hero and it shows how awesome 3D graphics and style can be.
Compared to D3 it looks like Half-Life 1 to Half-Life 2. (D3 being HL1, mind you)
Its really really sad when people who copy the Diablo gameplay make a better game out of it than the ones with the original franchise.
Not until we see a 20 min gameplay video of it, i don't want to be cheated by candy pics :rolleyes:
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Well um, 1 pic conveying Diablo mood against 20 minutes conveying?
Imo, the one pic still wins by default, lol.
If you think it is better ( or will be better ) than Diablo 3, then why are you still sticking with changing Diablo if another game gives you what you ask for ?
Ofcourse not, but still, just imagine the potential SAOUIEEEET gameplay of D3 with these very Diablo fitting graphics.
I said before that the Devs tried various graphical options including copying D2 looks directly and non of it served the gameplay and mood right , they went through all this years ago.
And besides, while the pic look nice indeed ( promotional or not ), that doesn't mean that's how D3 should look like, i don't see how you can judge the whole game from it, all the environment i see in the pic is some shiny CLEAN floor ( didn't many people complain about the CLEAN looks of D3 ), it could be a crappy game with crappy environments after all.
Oh, and those monsters look rubbish, i don't care if they are high poly, their designs and textures are crappy.
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Said the Barbarian before proceeding to slaughter everyone
That's fine, but actually you saying that it is directly inspired by Diablo raises the question ( does a game that tried to copy Diablo mood exactly look good ? ), i say no, that's my opinion that i base on the pics up there, it is clear that pitch black darkness dosn't create a mood any more, it is just 3D void, it invokes nothing, i'm sure D3 dev team studied that any they did'nt like the results because they said they did there different graphical looks before settling with the current, so why repeat the mistake that other games made before.
The resemblance is very slight nt all that reaction, they are not going to remake the whole graphics because of that, and again the pics show clearly that D3 is X100 times better than WoW in terms of quailty and color palettes.
Can you show me one H&S game that looks unique, there ain't any as far as i know of, all either go for extremely realsitic looks which results in boring looking games, or go for extremely cartoonish looks which make them look kiddy, D3 is just trying to strike a balancve between the two, but many people are too biased they fail to see that.
Green or Red, i don't understand what you want here, toches burn red in real-life, and the Green is merely ambient color reflections to set a mood for the game.
I don't mind your opinion as long as you keep your cool and make a good argument, which you are doing now
Said the Barbarian before proceeding to slaughter everyone
http://www.petitiononline.com/d3color/petition.html
cmon srsly?
Most overhead view games looks like crap when compared to today's first person or even 3rd person games, WoW being the exception of course as it was made to run on low end computers. D3 is coming out what late this year or early next year? When it drops compare the graphics to Age of Conan, and D3 will fall short completely.
Now, on to this retarded argument about the design of the game. I like the way it looks, I love the fact that they are trying to make this a world game sort of like TQ, instead of the constant dungeon crawl. I saw those screenshots those freaks put up on how the game should actually look, and theres one thing in common for all of them: they all look like its night. So my advice to them is to try going outside during the day and see how bright it is, see how the colors look like. Then to go outside during the night and compare. See the difference???
I mean seriously since when did the world of Diablo have no sun?? The last time that happened I fixed it.
Ignorant pricks. >.>
QFT!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
quoted for truth actually afaik?
Actually they said the complete opposite during the Art Panels, they said they took screenshots from D1 and D2 and found them very colorful and not as dark or bland as people THINK.
The only extra color that they added is the ambient color which IMO looks a lot better than pitch black which looks lame and has been done before in TQ and DS dungeons.
The shot with the three character classes and the skeleton king IS a BLIZZARD promotional pic, actually that was the first pic of Diablo 1 that i ever saw, don't call people liars for no reason.
Said the Barbarian before proceeding to slaughter everyone
http://www.petitiononline.com/d3color/petition.html
Care to show us how that DH looks like ?
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http://www.petitiononline.com/d3color/petition.html
Did you even read what i said, the Devs said so after taking screenshots and picking colors from them, don't make yourself look like a ..... sigh whatever, i made my point, you are simply calling the Dev's idiots, way to go :rolleyes:
Go get informed and watch the freaking Art Panels first before arguing.
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That looks quite nice, but are you sure that's an in-game shot not promotional art ?
Said the Barbarian before proceeding to slaughter everyone
http://www.petitiononline.com/d3color/petition.html
'Diablo is dead already' im agree now...
this is the art style we talking about!!!
DIFFERENT ARTISTS MAKES DIFFERENT GAME!!NEW CLASS of WoW above.
See, you're one of the fans I was talking about. I never said anything about WoW like graphics. Maybe it can be implied, but not the way I read it.
I see your point, but your reaction and statements back up my post. And you didn't put forth an argument for the fact that I like it better, despite being a Diablo fan.
Blizzard has gone a different design route for several reasons, but put them all in a funnel and what comes out the bottom is Diablo 3. Sure WoW is successful, as SC2 will most certainly be. But IMO, Blizzard feels this way:
Why should we settle for 30 million dollars when we can make twice more by appealing to a wider range of audience. The dedication and passion of Diablo fans is nice, but nice don't pay the rent.
All I'm offering is logical reasons why they went the direction they did with the graphic design. I doubt they will lose many true fans because of it. .
Sig- worthy :thumbsup:
http://www.diablofans.com/forums/showthread.php?t=10853
One more reason why Diablo 3 looks the way it is now
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http://www.petitiononline.com/d3color/petition.html
Not until we see a 20 min gameplay video of it, i don't want to be cheated by candy pics :rolleyes:
Said the Barbarian before proceeding to slaughter everyone
http://www.petitiononline.com/d3color/petition.html
Whilst Dungeon Hero sounds a litle bit weird, there is no denying those graphics are hawt.
If you think it is better ( or will be better ) than Diablo 3, then why are you still sticking with changing Diablo if another game gives you what you ask for ?
I said before that the Devs tried various graphical options including copying D2 looks directly and non of it served the gameplay and mood right , they went through all this years ago.
And besides, while the pic look nice indeed ( promotional or not ), that doesn't mean that's how D3 should look like, i don't see how you can judge the whole game from it, all the environment i see in the pic is some shiny CLEAN floor ( didn't many people complain about the CLEAN looks of D3 ), it could be a crappy game with crappy environments after all.
Oh, and those monsters look rubbish, i don't care if they are high poly, their designs and textures are crappy.
Said the Barbarian before proceeding to slaughter everyone
http://www.petitiononline.com/d3color/petition.html