I do not agree with this. Every time they get you use hack it has to be your first and last - the account should be deleted along with all characters.
Yep, in Warcraft 3 : TFT, if you get caught using any third-party program whilst in a ladder game, kiss your CD key goodbye because it will be banned forever the very next day. However, you can still use hacks like the maphack in custom games (like DoTA or just regular games hosted by a player). The custom game portion is very similar to how Diablo games are hosted... by a player.
I don't see how Blizzard will stop maphacks / bots from coming in Diablo 3, if it's on Battle.net.
"Jay Wilson: I can’t really talk about Battle.net but I will say, Battle.net will not be a background. It’ll be huge, the next version will be absolutely Blizzard’s focus. Everyone is going to be thrilled when they see the kind of stuff we have planned! It feeds into our overall focus of providing a really great service for our players."
With Battle.net being redone it wouldn't surprise me to see some sort of membership fee. Perhaps not just for D3 but maybe a community service system for all their big IP's.
I been lurcking around this forum for about a week and finally registered. I just wanted to add my thoughts in about this. Read before you flame please.
There are many reasons I would like there to be a monthly fee, or at least wouldn't mind it.
1. Keep the kiddies out. I am tired of 14 year old punks ruining my gaming experience. With a monthly fee, that is payable by credit card not game card, it would get rid of a lot of immaturity and would result in a better game. The game is rated M for a reason. Go watch your bob the builder and leave the gaming to the adults, thanks.
2. If blizzard plans to regularly update this game like wow, then I don't mind one bit paying for the content. It would give extra money to blizz for new enhancements and whatnot. We were all complaining about how d2 hardly ever got updated. Well, why should they when they have no reason incentive to. Added levels, bosses, items, bug fixes, and world events is way worth the cost to me.
There are many other reason however those are the main two.
Also, something else i thought of. Let say they start out with a fee of 5-10 dollars a month. Thats cheap as hell. However, every time you are caught using a hack, cheat, or exploit they raise that price 5 dollars. It would be a incentive not to cheat because it would start effecting the wallet.
Lastly, to the people who say they they cant afford a monthly payment. Honestly, if you cant afford 15 bucks max a month then you really need to get a better job or something and not play games. Im sorry, but if you are struggling to pay that small ammount of money you have other issues.
Bring your lunch to work 3 days a MONTH and save that money.
Dont spend 19 bucks at the movies and have that money.
Dont buy a case of beer and you can have the money.
If you are responsible with it you can easily find extra money.
Well thats my two cents, flame on.
I have about 3 things to say to this post....
1st..../sigh
2nd...You act as if you know everything about people's lives, most people get on games to unwind with their life that may already be in bad shape, what im saying is try and be more understanding it may make you a better person. Personally i have no problem paying for things like my WoW subscription but for some people its just not that easy.
3rd...Diablo 3 would not be Diablo with you had to pay to play it really, not in the since that most of the fanbase is used to when dealing with Diablo.
1-Not going to happen, kids will always be around, and also some adults are worse than kids.
2-They plan on updating Bnet 2 specially for SC2 and D3, and they have the extra profits from WoW to cover for that, not to mention Bnet being free is always a selling point for SC and Diablo, it will make them sell more=more profit, and as far as i know D2 got updated few times already, why wouldn't they update it if they promise to, no problem if updates get delayed, but they do it in the end, its their reputation here.
And the problem is not only the money, many people abroad play D2 and SC on Bnet without having to go through the cumbersome act of getting and keeping a credit card ( game cards are not available worldwide ), so keeping it free ensures everyone gets their fair chance of playing as long as they bought the game, don't be selfish and only think of yourself.
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It's a business with shareholders, that logic doesn't apply.
At the end of the day they will do whatever that serves their business interests, if they believe that the revenue from a monthly fee would outweigh the potential loss of customers then they would do that for sure.
So the question is, does the new D3 and new Battle.net 2.0 provide enough new features that they can justify a small fee? If they decide not to introduce a fee, it would be for this reason, not some kind of ideological bias that prevents them from ever charging fees for battle.net.
If they decide not to introduce a fee, it would be for this reason, not some kind of ideological bias that prevents them from ever charging fees for battle.net.
Like i said, Bnet being free is always a selling point for Diablo and Starcraft, they even print that explicitly on the game cover of Starcraft, they know what they ar doing, it surely helps the game sell better.
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I been lurcking around this forum for about a week and finally registered. I just wanted to add my thoughts in about this. Read before you flame please.
There are many reasons I would like there to be a monthly fee, or at least wouldn't mind it.
1. Keep the kiddies out. I am tired of 14 year old punks ruining my gaming experience. With a monthly fee, that is payable by credit card not game card, it would get rid of a lot of immaturity and would result in a better game. The game is rated M for a reason. Go watch your bob the builder and leave the gaming to the adults, thanks.
2. If blizzard plans to regularly update this game like wow, then I don't mind one bit paying for the content. It would give extra money to blizz for new enhancements and whatnot. We were all complaining about how d2 hardly ever got updated. Well, why should they when they have no reason incentive to. Added levels, bosses, items, bug fixes, and world events is way worth the cost to me.
There are many other reason however those are the main two.
Also, something else i thought of. Let say they start out with a fee of 5-10 dollars a month. Thats cheap as hell. However, every time you are caught using a hack, cheat, or exploit they raise that price 5 dollars. It would be a incentive not to cheat because it would start effecting the wallet.
Lastly, to the people who say they they cant afford a monthly payment. Honestly, if you cant afford 15 bucks max a month then you really need to get a better job or something and not play games. Im sorry, but if you are struggling to pay that small ammount of money you have other issues.
Bring your lunch to work 3 days a MONTH and save that money.
Dont spend 19 bucks at the movies and have that money.
Dont buy a case of beer and you can have the money.
If you are responsible with it you can easily find extra money.
Well thats my two cents, flame on.
lets add in the fact that without a monthly there is almost garunteed to be dupes / hacks / cheats running wild. In d2 it would take them a month to figure out how to stop the cheating, and people would figure out how to do it again within a day or two at most.
without a monthly fee, its much harder to keep track of accounts, and there is not a great enough incentive to not cheat in fear of ban.
10 dollars says OP is a 13 year old prepubescent boy who uses his mother's credit card to pay for his monthly WoW subscription and has no idea about the current state of the US economy.
There's not going to be a monthly, your cries are in vain...
Don't be so sure, there will be a free version of battle.net, but i'm quite sure this "new battle.net" will have a subscription that will effect all blizzards games, the more secure version will require a 1 time fee per year, kinda like XBL.
Thats harsh dude. Ive been playing Diablo2 sience i was seven...Im fourteen now goin fifteen in August...I love the Diablo series ive read the Sin War books. Ever sience i heard the name Diablo3 ive been typing it in google serches for a few years untill i found this site. If you really are having trouble with imature people make private games are try not to join duel games where most of the imature people are.
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A monthly fee wont keep kids from playing the game. All that will do is waste more of the parents money on it, and if that's what you want to accomplish then you're a retard >.>
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I'm fine with paying a monthly fee because 10-15$ a month is nothing and I can find that by just searching around my house each month, Laundry taxes are the greatest, especially when they leave a 10 or 20 bill in their back pocket.
I won't pay a fee for a game like Diablo II though. If i'm paying blizzard, I want to be able to talk to a great population of the game without having to stop playing. I do not want to have to join a game and be limited talking to only 7 other players. This is 2008, i'm sure Blizzard can do something good with the new Battle.net that they are promising.
I think having limited players is the best thing you can do. It's having your own instance but anyone can join it given there is enough room. I like it because the maps are always changing and the bosses don't drop the same item over and over. I think Diablo 2 was perfect.
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i really cant believe this is even a topic of discussion on any forum, idiots are going wild about this very same thing on diabloiii.net it really pisses me off to see that someone would want a p2p situation. really? what good could come from that? i havent yet seen one good reason for it. to keep the immature kids out? jesus christ get a clue. Blizzard is in the business of making video games, the more they sell the more money they make. They certainly will not inforce the p2p just so the kids stay out of the game. Ridiculas. Second Diablo is not a MMO. New content is reserved for expansions, not patches. there WILL be exansions, maybe more than one this time. Just please everyone STFU there will not be a monthly fee.
i really cant believe this is even a topic of discussion on any forum, idiots are going wild about this very same thing on diabloiii.net it really pisses me off to see that someone would want a p2p situation. really? what good could come from that? i havent yet seen one good reason for it. to keep the immature kids out? jesus christ get a clue. Blizzard is in the business of making video games, the more they sell the more money they make. They certainly will not inforce the p2p just so the kids stay out of the game. Ridiculas. Second Diablo is not a MMO. New content is reserved for expansions, not patches. there WILL be exansions, maybe more than one this time. Just please everyone STFU there will not be a monthly fee.
100% agreed.
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I don't want this game to be WoW. I don't want to see a game world that is constantly changing. I don't want a million patches that keep "rebalancing" character classes to only, in the end, fail. I want a fairly static world that has a expansion or two then let it wind down and start making diablo 4. The only way I would accept a monthly fee was if it was the one and ONLY way to keep hackers under control. And even then anything over 10 a month would be out of the question.
My thoughts exactly - we shouldn't have to spend half an hour downloading patches every time we log on.
let me get this straight... you WANT pay to play???
Guess what, there is p2p in WoW and that's why there are so few casual players on that game (or at least people who have always been casual players).
Diablo is a casual, accessible game. It's for everyone not just hardcore gamers who spend 10 hours a day playing and can justify paying a monthly fee. Diablo has never been p2p and nothing should change.
Also, it's not about being able to AFFORD the fees. Obviously anybody who can afford to buy the box can afford to pay to play. It's not a matter of cost, but a matter of HASTLE. There are many people who don't want to be tied to rediculous contracts like a video game (even a really awesome video game). I personally know plenty of peolpe who would just say that they don't want this burden and don't want to commit to a video game, because they only have a few hours a week to spare on a game anyway.
p2p is only for hardcore gamers. That's why WoW fans are so hardcore. The non-hardcore ones (majority of video game consumers) were all turned off by the p2p.
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Yep, in Warcraft 3 : TFT, if you get caught using any third-party program whilst in a ladder game, kiss your CD key goodbye because it will be banned forever the very next day. However, you can still use hacks like the maphack in custom games (like DoTA or just regular games hosted by a player). The custom game portion is very similar to how Diablo games are hosted... by a player.
I don't see how Blizzard will stop maphacks / bots from coming in Diablo 3, if it's on Battle.net.
"Jay Wilson: I can’t really talk about Battle.net but I will say, Battle.net will not be a background. It’ll be huge, the next version will be absolutely Blizzard’s focus. Everyone is going to be thrilled when they see the kind of stuff we have planned! It feeds into our overall focus of providing a really great service for our players."
With Battle.net being redone it wouldn't surprise me to see some sort of membership fee. Perhaps not just for D3 but maybe a community service system for all their big IP's.
I have about 3 things to say to this post....
1st..../sigh
2nd...You act as if you know everything about people's lives, most people get on games to unwind with their life that may already be in bad shape, what im saying is try and be more understanding it may make you a better person. Personally i have no problem paying for things like my WoW subscription but for some people its just not that easy.
3rd...Diablo 3 would not be Diablo with you had to pay to play it really, not in the since that most of the fanbase is used to when dealing with Diablo.
2-They plan on updating Bnet 2 specially for SC2 and D3, and they have the extra profits from WoW to cover for that, not to mention Bnet being free is always a selling point for SC and Diablo, it will make them sell more=more profit, and as far as i know D2 got updated few times already, why wouldn't they update it if they promise to, no problem if updates get delayed, but they do it in the end, its their reputation here.
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And the problem is not only the money, many people abroad play D2 and SC on Bnet without having to go through the cumbersome act of getting and keeping a credit card ( game cards are not available worldwide ), so keeping it free ensures everyone gets their fair chance of playing as long as they bought the game, don't be selfish and only think of yourself.
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Jeez! I'm not going to pay a fee to play a game that is basically like a singleplayer LAN game! It's Battle.Net, it's not an MMO...
Considering they make over 150 million per month I don't think they are hurting much for money.....
I for one am not a fan of the subscription model.
I was just stating a fact, that is all.
Like i said, Bnet being free is always a selling point for Diablo and Starcraft, they even print that explicitly on the game cover of Starcraft, they know what they ar doing, it surely helps the game sell better.
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http://www.petitiononline.com/d3color/petition.html
lets add in the fact that without a monthly there is almost garunteed to be dupes / hacks / cheats running wild. In d2 it would take them a month to figure out how to stop the cheating, and people would figure out how to do it again within a day or two at most.
without a monthly fee, its much harder to keep track of accounts, and there is not a great enough incentive to not cheat in fear of ban.
monthly fee = quality control
Thats harsh dude. Ive been playing Diablo2 sience i was seven...Im fourteen now goin fifteen in August...I love the Diablo series ive read the Sin War books. Ever sience i heard the name Diablo3 ive been typing it in google serches for a few years untill i found this site. If you really are having trouble with imature people make private games are try not to join duel games where most of the imature people are.
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I think having limited players is the best thing you can do. It's having your own instance but anyone can join it given there is enough room. I like it because the maps are always changing and the bosses don't drop the same item over and over. I think Diablo 2 was perfect.
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100% agreed.
If you want to arrange it
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If we could somehow make this
Christmas thing last
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Guess what, there is p2p in WoW and that's why there are so few casual players on that game (or at least people who have always been casual players).
Diablo is a casual, accessible game. It's for everyone not just hardcore gamers who spend 10 hours a day playing and can justify paying a monthly fee. Diablo has never been p2p and nothing should change.
Also, it's not about being able to AFFORD the fees. Obviously anybody who can afford to buy the box can afford to pay to play. It's not a matter of cost, but a matter of HASTLE. There are many people who don't want to be tied to rediculous contracts like a video game (even a really awesome video game). I personally know plenty of peolpe who would just say that they don't want this burden and don't want to commit to a video game, because they only have a few hours a week to spare on a game anyway.
p2p is only for hardcore gamers. That's why WoW fans are so hardcore. The non-hardcore ones (majority of video game consumers) were all turned off by the p2p.