I have some worries about D3. This game is just so important to me i can't ignore this right now and move forward.
First of all the happy wow-ish, wc3-ish looking world, happy forest with cute squarish trees, grass and everything. It is just wrong on so many levels. But more than anything, that is shoking to me is decline in pace and ingame speed. I was expecting D3 to be slower after what happened for example to starcraft in warcraft 3, what happened to quake 3 in doom 3 and quake 4. Nowadays prettier graphics - slower gameplay, and problem is never in hardware, but in games.
If you guys didn't play Diablo 2 for a while, for years maybe, you may forget how mindblowingly fast it was, i was a very devoted D2 player and yet after a 2 years break, when i installed D2 again i was shoked by how insane speed and pace in this game is compared to all the newer games both on PC and consoles, and that is why D2 was so good. Now in D3 i see just another game that has nothing besides looks and sound effects.
Please, guys, if you have some footage of powered up D3 character in good boots, faster run stuff, teleports in action, please post the link in this thread. I hate to be negative about anything, especially about something i really care about... Does anyone else have the same feelings? Did the Blizzard ever comment on this matter?
I have some worries about D3. This game is just so important to me i can't ignore this right now and move forward.
First of all the happy wow-ish, wc3-ish looking world, happy forest with cute squarish trees, grass and everything. It is just wrong on so many levels. But more than anything, that is shoking to me is decline in pace and ingame speed. I was expecting D3 to be slower after what happened for example to starcraft in warcraft 3, what happened to quake 3 in doom 3 and quake 4. Nowadays prettier graphics - slower gameplay, and problem is never in hardware, but in games.
If you guys didn't play Diablo 2 for a while, for years maybe, you may forget how mindblowingly fast it was, i was a very devoted D2 player and yet after a 2 years break, when i installed D2 again i was shoked by how insane speed and pace in this game is compared to all the newer games both on PC and consoles, and that is why D2 was so good. Now in D3 i see just another game that has nothing besides looks and sound effects.
Please, guys, if you have some footage of powered up D3 character in good boots, faster run stuff, teleports in action, please post the link in this thread. I hate to be negative about anything, especially about something i really care about... Does anyone else have the same feelings? Did the Blizzard ever comment on this matter?
You are wrong on so many points, I stopped reading here :
First of all the happy wow-ish, wc3-ish looking world, happy forest with cute squarish trees, grass and everything. It is just wrong on so many levels. But more than anything, that is shoking to me is decline in pace and ingame speed.
It's a little early to be gauging the real pace of the game. The stuff in the gameplay video had to be a certain speed to make narration possible. I like the look of it, actually, looks like a good blend of slaughter and strategy.
Trust me ... nothing has changed what do you expect?Diablo/Baal and all those bosses had been destroyed in the previous sequel.. you expect to start off on an evil place? it will change
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We're trying to balance satisfying the fans and also creating a game that feels like our own.
You are wrong on so many points, I stopped reading here :
How do you know i'm wrong on many points, if you stopped reading right away. I think wow-ish looks is pretty accurate description of what i saw in witch doctor footage.
cute trees? 1st off, how is a tree cute? 2nd off, how many "demonic" trees did u see in previous diablo games...assuming thats what your aiming for.
grass is normal...i recall there being grass in D2.
Ingame Speed decline? you do realise that you can speed up / slow down ur game, either way i didnt see much of a change....but even if u did, this is just demonstration of how the game works. I dont think if he just stood and killed 10 mobs a second for 20 minutes that the fans would be too pleased..
Trust me ... nothing has changed what do you expect?Diablo/Baal and all those bosses had been destroyed in the previous sequel.. you expect to start off on an evil place? it will change
That's a great point, and one I'd like to reiterate. I love the idea of there being a high value of contrast to the environments. After all, Lut Gholein didn't look all that dark on the outside. It was only when you started descending into the sewers and such that things began to get darker.
The prime evils have been gone for 20 years, so it makes sense that the world is starting to brighten up a bit. I'm sure a slow descent into ruin and destruction around the world would make for a great feel to the game.
How do you know i'm wrong on many points, if you stopped reading right away. I think wow-ish looks is pretty accurate description of what i saw in witch doctor footage.
and unless in WoW u see a mage throwing fireballs that erupt into a small explosion, buring and blowing s^*& up, or a warlock having locust eat away enemies leaving jsut bones behind, i dont think its WoW-ish in looks
The only thing I saw was like the first levels in D2 (early dungeons and fields, like with the Raven boss), but better. I love the little details, like body parts falling over the sides of the path in the dungeon. The speed seemed just as fast, faster with the Barbarian charging and leaping around. The bosses looked cool and interesting and ugly - which is great. And I like the billion skeletons that spawned after the second boss died - he dies with a vengeance, lol. I loved the zombie wall (how is that cartoony?). The new trap was cool. Everything was cool! I can't wait...
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Ranger - Ranged Weapon Mastery (fire a bow or javelins like a machine gun!), Traps (MK style!), Pets (lions, tigers, and bears oh my!) - physical damage based
Demonologist - Bone Spells (Necro style!), Avatar (shapeshift into a demon!), Furies (evil spirits that hang around you, giving party bonuses) - mix of physical damage and magic
LEAP ATTACK!!!!! PLAGUE OF TOADS!!!!!
SLOW TIME!!!!!
You must've not played Diablo II in a long while...
I still play Diablo II, and I can tell you that the speed is the same. Hell, I'd even say it's much faster.
It's just not fair to compare that early game Barb with a late game Diablo II 200% FCR sorc...
speed seems the same as D2, but you're right about other things.
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"[Diablo1+2] obviously had the gothic look to it, but, you they weren't, they weren't very uh, very colorful games."
"We want to take dark as an emotion, rather than an actual color art choice." -Rob Pardo
"Why the hell shouldn't it be for 'kiddies', it's a goddamn game afterall." -lethlan
Well the Witch Doctor is after all WC3 related (Orc Unit)
Well... This game is still in development afterall. Nothing is final in that version. I expect the Witch Doctor to be changed much more.
The level we saw is probably only a small portion of the D3 world anyways.
Take a look at the graphics of D3. They aren't ALL that great. Sure they are good, but not the greatest. I'm assuming that the graphics are this way simply because Blizzard is going to deliver a lag-free game. Look at WoW graphics, and I barely have an issue with lag there.. these graphics go along the same general guidelines as D2, simply a little more 3d. As of right now, with what I seen.. Lag will not be an issue unless someone finds an exploit duping.. and causes mass lag to the server.
First of all the happy wow-ish, wc3-ish looking world, happy forest with cute squarish trees, grass and everything. It is just wrong on so many levels. But more than anything, that is shoking to me is decline in pace and ingame speed. I was expecting D3 to be slower after what happened for example to starcraft in warcraft 3, what happened to quake 3 in doom 3 and quake 4. Nowadays prettier graphics - slower gameplay, and problem is never in hardware, but in games.
Hi.
This part of your post lets me know that you suck, and either A. Didn't watch the gameplay videos, or B. Are an idiot.
I'll take a combination of both. Please see your way out of the site.
This part of your post lets me know that you suck, and either A. Didn't watch the gameplay videos, or B. Are an idiot.
I'll take a combination of both. Please see your way out of the site.
The same can be said about you with an addition of low age with the way you make insults. What do you think about this pic? Dont forget to scroll image to the right a little bit.
First of all the happy wow-ish, wc3-ish looking world, happy forest with cute squarish trees, grass and everything. It is just wrong on so many levels. But more than anything, that is shoking to me is decline in pace and ingame speed. I was expecting D3 to be slower after what happened for example to starcraft in warcraft 3, what happened to quake 3 in doom 3 and quake 4. Nowadays prettier graphics - slower gameplay, and problem is never in hardware, but in games.
If you guys didn't play Diablo 2 for a while, for years maybe, you may forget how mindblowingly fast it was, i was a very devoted D2 player and yet after a 2 years break, when i installed D2 again i was shoked by how insane speed and pace in this game is compared to all the newer games both on PC and consoles, and that is why D2 was so good. Now in D3 i see just another game that has nothing besides looks and sound effects.
Please, guys, if you have some footage of powered up D3 character in good boots, faster run stuff, teleports in action, please post the link in this thread. I hate to be negative about anything, especially about something i really care about... Does anyone else have the same feelings? Did the Blizzard ever comment on this matter?
You are wrong on so many points, I stopped reading here :
cute trees? 1st off, how is a tree cute? 2nd off, how many "demonic" trees did u see in previous diablo games...assuming thats what your aiming for.
grass is normal...i recall there being grass in D2.
Ingame Speed decline? you do realise that you can speed up / slow down ur game, either way i didnt see much of a change....but even if u did, this is just demonstration of how the game works. I dont think if he just stood and killed 10 mobs a second for 20 minutes that the fans would be too pleased..
That's a great point, and one I'd like to reiterate. I love the idea of there being a high value of contrast to the environments. After all, Lut Gholein didn't look all that dark on the outside. It was only when you started descending into the sewers and such that things began to get darker.
The prime evils have been gone for 20 years, so it makes sense that the world is starting to brighten up a bit. I'm sure a slow descent into ruin and destruction around the world would make for a great feel to the game.
Demonologist - Bone Spells (Necro style!), Avatar (shapeshift into a demon!), Furies (evil spirits that hang around you, giving party bonuses) - mix of physical damage and magic
LEAP ATTACK!!!!!
PLAGUE OF TOADS!!!!!
SLOW TIME!!!!!
You must've not played Diablo II in a long while...
I still play Diablo II, and I can tell you that the speed is the same. Hell, I'd even say it's much faster.
It's just not fair to compare that early game Barb with a late game Diablo II 200% FCR sorc...
"[Diablo1+2] obviously had the gothic look to it, but, you they weren't, they weren't very uh, very colorful games."
"We want to take dark as an emotion, rather than an actual color art choice." -Rob Pardo
"Why the hell shouldn't it be for 'kiddies', it's a goddamn game afterall." -lethlan
Well... This game is still in development afterall. Nothing is final in that version. I expect the Witch Doctor to be changed much more.
The level we saw is probably only a small portion of the D3 world anyways.
http://www.bingegamer.net/index.php/2008/an-open-letter-to-diablo-iii-fanboys
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Willing to help xfers/mods.
It's the decisions you make when you have no time to make them that define who you are.
Blizzard is listening, just make yourself heard and don't be disrespectful. They did a lot of things to SC2 ever since it was announced.
Hi.
This part of your post lets me know that you suck, and either A. Didn't watch the gameplay videos, or B. Are an idiot.
I'll take a combination of both. Please see your way out of the site.
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I like that picture, Yo.
But I don't think the entire game should be gray like that. I like how it's darker, but that mat is grey and not purple ..
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