lol...well I think d3 being an MMO would be alright, because its heaven,hell, and earth...diablo, the graphics would be better than WoW...it might actually be convceivable as a good game..not a quick worked peice of shit in an attempt to make hsitloads of money...Yeah. If they work hard on it, then a Diablo/MMO will be good...but, Idk. We'll have too see. As far as In -Game support for guilds I dont think it would happen because Its Diablo not WoW...if you know what I mean...the point of the game isnt to be in guilds and destroy...its to kill all evil, mainly Diablo...Now, if it was world of Diablo, then yeah, it most likely would have in game support for guilds because it could be teams of crusaders fighting against baal and diablo n shit...it would be like wow only diablo style with alot better groahics, a better plot...hell yeah. much better game...I think with Diablo's storyline and style of characters and everything you cant really go wrong unless you treid to...
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Parallel truth, awaken in translucence
Sealed by this deadened song
Sinking in toneless comatose
Come and tear my skin, fear what's within
Its massive darkness filling my world
Submerged rage writing unspoken words
when you look at it in that aspect, diablo 3 as a mmo like a WoW would be kinda nice. however we've waited too long for a similar diablo that we know, so the mmo can wait for diablo 4.
Well really I wouldnt make any plans until you play...we dont know how gameplay is going to be until it comes out...if It's MMO then guilds are easier to maintain because you can all be at one place at one time...however if it's an 8 man game like D2 then don't count on being in a guild because its truly pointless....
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well I think d3 being an MMO would be alright, because its heaven,hell, and earth...diablo
i'd say it more like "I wouldnt mind a MMO in the Diablo universe, because its heaven,hell, and earth...diablo"
Diablo 3 as a MMO wouldnt be Diablo 3
the graphics would be better than WoW
i'd say "more mature" thats also a good thing and i'd like ofc.
not a quick worked peice of shit in an attempt to make hsitloads of money
thats not the Blizzard way and i dont expect it to happen. Ever.
I don't believe there is enough content in the Diablo universe to make a World of Diablo game. Warcraft has tons of content and the world can be ever changing. Diablo is too linear to be anything but an action rpg. Personally, I think that Diablo 3 should be very similar to diablo 2 with enhanced graphics, more enemies, items, and spells. When I put on a big ass piece of plate armor, I want to be able to see that on my character. I want my character to look like it does in the inventory with all the sweet gear. Personally, I would absolutely love to see a World of Starcraft game. I think it would be amazing. Blizzard doesn't make bad games so no matter what they release, it's going to be a masterpiece. Their artists are incredible, their writers are fantastic and their gameplay designers are superb. It will all come together eventually and we will all love it. I actually hope that Ryan and Cuddz are wrong because I don't believe the character classes they gave fit into the diablo universe. I want all the same old classes with some new ones thrown in. Maybe 10 classes or so with the old ones being reworked. Chronomancers just don't sound right. As for guilds and what not, sure they are fun but don't serve a huge purpose and I doubt there will be any guild specific stuff built into the game. Actually, I just want another diablo game. I'll play it no matter what kind of game it is.
Most Blizzard fans agree with that. No matter what game they make, we will play it.
But I actually think that there is a lot of content for Diablo, and it still has a great potential. Much of this is due to the fact that the Worldstone got destroyed. As stated in the game, no one knew what would come of it. This allows future developers huge freedom as they only have to stick with the basic concepts. Other than that, their hands are free.
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you're not right about that. At least for the ones that do bother reading the end-game quest texts you see there's tons of story in there. In fact these quests expand the existing lore immensely. (C'thun and the war of the Qiraji, anyone? Thunderaan and the betrayal of Ragnaros? and much much more - excluding the War of the Plaguelands with the Scourge invasion)
i'd say it more like "I wouldnt mind a MMO in the Diablo universe, because its heaven,hell, and earth...diablo"
Diablo 3 as a MMO wouldnt be Diablo 3
i'd say "more mature" thats also a good thing and i'd like ofc.
thats not the Blizzard way and i dont expect it to happen. Ever.
Yeah, but idk. Since they lost Bilzzard North it could happen that way...but who knows? I just cant wait for it.
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Sealed by this deadened song
Sinking in toneless comatose
Come and tear my skin, fear what's within
Its massive darkness filling my world
Submerged rage writing unspoken words
well, there youre wrong, about it not being diablo 3, it would very mcuh fit into a plot for the diablo universe...think about it, Diablo had always been the whole world against evil- and, if what I think is correct, the next stroyline is heaven versus hell, which could easily be made into a MMO and be called diablo 3 because it's the next movement in the plot...so, it could happen...
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Parallel truth, awaken in translucence
Sealed by this deadened song
Sinking in toneless comatose
Come and tear my skin, fear what's within
Its massive darkness filling my world
Submerged rage writing unspoken words
if u guys think about it. take a look at all the games being made. wut do u think is next. a self evolving mmo. personaly i have the perfect idea how to make one unfortunatly i do not have the resources to do so. and people like blizzard and microsoft and sony and nintendo none of them will work on a game with u or listen to ur idea's they think they got it all figured out. anyway yea. self evolving. somone does a particular thing the game changes in a small part and after so many things happening u get more n more.
so think about that in the diablo universe. after so many people do a certain quest say ur nearing diablo. all of a sudden the skies go red and black and monsters are always coming from every direction (except in town) now there is a guild thing. or kinda like a raid as in WoW. ooo or wut if u could raid in diablo LoL
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Let my sword draw the blood of our enemies,Let my magic rain destruction on those who might seek to harm us, Pray my bow the deadliest of them all, Oh Blessed the hammers i use to purge these demons, Those of evil will now serve the light as i return them, My cunning and trickery will be thy fall with a well place trap.
Oh, Baron Carloseus lead the way to our victory. If we fail we may rise again stronger. The Slayers will find the way.
well, there youre wrong, about it not being diablo 3
and i was wondering when we'll disagree again
Still my point is that Blizzard usually carries the name of each series with the exact same of game. See, Warcraft 1, 2 and 3 were RTS. The MMO they made in this universe isnt Warcraft 4. Its World of Warcraft
Getting my point now?
it would very mcuh fit into a plot for the diablo universe
to that we agree very much, and i think a possible Diablo MMO would get more mature people in it and eventually be more fun for me (talking about myself mainly) since i'm a big fan of that particular franchise. But it still wouldnt be called Diablo 3
Well I think it'd be the next installemnt though- look, Diablo is alot different then Warcraft...Wolrd of Diablo doesn't sounds right...and If Its a NEXT INSTALLMENT in the series, just a different gameplay, it could be safe to assume it's D3...if not then it will be diablo followed by a word like armageddon or such
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Parallel truth, awaken in translucence
Sealed by this deadened song
Sinking in toneless comatose
Come and tear my skin, fear what's within
Its massive darkness filling my world
Submerged rage writing unspoken words
Making a world that is influenced by players? Sure, watch Eve: Online. Cant't get much better thatn that. Note though that I haven't played it myself, but the whole thing is basically drived by players. But also from what I understand is that there isn't much story to it. I could be wrong though.
It's kind of a balance act. THe company will generally want to preserve their story in the way they want. It makes it all more predictable, and less costly.For example, let's say the whole game starts with a war. If it is left to the players, the company won't know which side will win, and will have to develop two storylines simoultaneously, only to throw one out when they know who is winning. Otherwise they don't have anything done when the war ends, and players get mad and leave. And if they only develop one storyline from the beginning, only to realise that the "wrong" side won, and then try to altere the story so that indeed the other side won, players will also get mad.
Plus, it isn't very fun to read of the hero ArraGorN2000 who saved the world. I wouldn't at least.
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New weapons (so far) Whip (Monster Tamer's weapon only) Wooden Staff (Fighter's weapon only) Malet Short Blade Blade
Character Skills Since the demo/alpha was recalled, all information was from contact.
Chronomancer- Slow Time-for a duration of time, you can slow down time increasing atk and atk rating Reincarnation-after a monster has been slained, you rewind time for them to be alive again infecting their mind to fight by your side. Age-Speed up the clock to decrease your enemes def, atk and health Time Warp-Open a drift in time to relocate yourself (teleport)
Monster Tamer- Control-Control a monster to fight for you for a duration Terror Whip-Enchant your whip to scare monsters for a duration Sonic Whip-Enchant your whip to increase atk speed for a duration Glare-Stun your enemies
Templar- Weapons Mastery (All of them) Power of Ares-increased atk, def, and atk rating for a duration Blessed Arms-Enchant your weapons for increase of damage, critical strike and chance for deadly wounds Curses Decay-decay the flesh of your enemies decreasing def and health Plague-poison your enemies
Warlock- Rock Wall-create a wall of rock for a duration of time. No life on rock wall like how bone wall is Sandstorm-create a wall of sand forward that damages and decreases atk rating Earthquake-create an earthquake that destroys enemies (powerful skill) Void-Open a void in the earth to swallow you enemies
Fighter- Fighting Stance-Increase def rating for a duration Multi Punch-Attack target multiple times Counter-passive, chance to avoid atk Fearless-Increase atk rating but decreases def Fist of Flame-adds fire to your attack
Quests The story begins when Cain had fears of the outcome of the destruction of the world stone. Everyone agrees with Cain and requests you to find their long lost captain, Honto. Tyreal appears in the city as well for support.
1. Recover Arms-Search through the Icy Plateau (New area) for barbarian captain (Honto) to gain strength back. Honto then brings back a new merc. . .barb with ww and they weild a giant axe.
Honto tells everyone that there is going to be an invasion opun the city. 2. The Wake-The invasion has already begun. Honto has requested you to destroy a group of monsters that plan to strike first. A unique monster called Thatlicor (undead reanimate) is surrounded by tons of reanimate's and they actually move to the city walls! After destroying the group, Tyreal tells you that his choice to destroy the world stone wasn't his . . . The evil in the cave influenced him to destroy it. You then talk to Cain. He tells you more about what Tyreal has done. You then talk to Tyreal again and he tells you to go find the ancient artifact known as the Harali Stone. The Harali Stone was the artifact that help create the soul and world stones.
3. Harali Stone-You search for the Harali Stone in a portal he opens to that leads to Khanduras. You enter the portal and find Khanduras in ruins. Bodies everywhere, houses on fire, the whole nine yards. You go and destroy the monster who have done this and retrieve back the Harali Stone from the unique. You return to the city and give the Harali Stone to Tyreal. Tyreal starts acting strange, then he disappears. You talk to cain and he tells you that Tyreal has Baal's soul stone with him.
4. (Don't remember the name of this quest)-You seek out Tyreal in the ancient way and found him to corrupt the three ancients. They come to life and combat you once again.
My contact cannot remember the last four quests but to put in a vague way, you seek Tyreal out and eventually find him in the world stone chamber recreating a new evil stone for the soul purpose of bringing hell to the gates of mankind. He then disappears. You go back to the city and fight off a crap load of monsters that are invading the city. After you kill the super unique (immune to physical and is cold immune) the invasion stops. Cain tells you that you must track down Tyreal and stop him. Cain fears that with the Harali Stone he will attempt to recreate the soul stones and free the other evils.
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For the sake of SICK and the glory of Lord Silver.
Those whom have taken in the wicked, shall be punished by thy Lord.
Those whom have trechered into the dark, shall be smited by thy Light.
now we can discuss it. slow month here we need something to do
dont really like the idea of a chronomancer. Templar sounds cool. it is as i predicted (assuming that it is fact) a more religious type char. it is about time for a game about heaven and hell the lack of religious chars was rather strange, almost to the point of annoyance, i like relgious chars they are so cool. (DND has a whole host of these chars but i suppose that is because there is a whole lot of gods to follow)
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-Humankind cannot gain anything without first giving something in return. To obtain, something of equal value must be lost. That is alchemy's First Law of Equivalent Exchange. In those days, we really believed that to be the world's one, and only, truth.
The story sounds very very shakey... even at best. If that is true (which i do not think it is) Blizzard is pulling shit out of their ass to extend the story. It would make more sense for the 3rd to be a prequel.
Wooden staff??? Malet??? Short Blade??? Arnt they already weapons in D2?
Whip I must say is believable. Dedicating a whole class to it is believable as well. Just look at the Assasin and katars...
All the classes are believable except one. The Chronomancer. I have a hard time seeing how slowing down time would work in multiplay. The only way I can see it is, in that perticular zone, the time is slowed. Or, if it is like a necromancers curse, where only the targeted area is slown down.
With everything I have witnessed, I am going to give all the information so far a truth rating of...
5/10
The crap about loading characters and the potion animation, along with the story and the chronomancer makes me believe this is all a bunch of shit. However, some stuff makes sense. But its nothing any one of us couldnt of come up with and faked.
The Chronomancer seems believable to me. Its the "Fighter" Class that seems bland and uncreative, it sounds like a class from Diablo 1, which had Warrior, Scorceress and Rogue (i think it was Rogue) Fighter kinda fits right in to this category.
All the classes are believable except one. The Chronomancer. I have a hard time seeing how slowing down time would work in multiplay. The only way I can see it is, in that perticular zone, the time is slowed. Or, if it is like a necromancers curse, where only the targeted area is slown down.
thats my thoughts too, usually you just have one or two spells that affect time not 30 or so.
-time stop: bring time virtually to a stop, for you enemies not you
-slow time: slows time
and i suppose there would be a spell that speeds up time but thats about it.
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-Humankind cannot gain anything without first giving something in return. To obtain, something of equal value must be lost. That is alchemy's First Law of Equivalent Exchange. In those days, we really believed that to be the world's one, and only, truth.
This info that ryan has presented to us does sound good. And i would have to agree with Sabacca50 about loading characters and potion animation but the chronomancer can be a good asset to the side of light. He has the power of god, in a certain aspect. But lets see what others have to say.
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Those before me shall quiver in my wake as I unleash the fury within!
Parallel truth, awaken in translucence
Sealed by this deadened song
Sinking in toneless comatose
Come and tear my skin, fear what's within
Its massive darkness filling my world
Submerged rage writing unspoken words
we agree in something! we got to celebrate it!
i'd say it more like "I wouldnt mind a MMO in the Diablo universe, because its heaven,hell, and earth...diablo"
Diablo 3 as a MMO wouldnt be Diablo 3
i'd say "more mature" thats also a good thing and i'd like ofc.
thats not the Blizzard way and i dont expect it to happen. Ever.
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But I actually think that there is a lot of content for Diablo, and it still has a great potential. Much of this is due to the fact that the Worldstone got destroyed. As stated in the game, no one knew what would come of it. This allows future developers huge freedom as they only have to stick with the basic concepts. Other than that, their hands are free.
you're not right about that. At least for the ones that do bother reading the end-game quest texts you see there's tons of story in there. In fact these quests expand the existing lore immensely. (C'thun and the war of the Qiraji, anyone? Thunderaan and the betrayal of Ragnaros? and much much more - excluding the War of the Plaguelands with the Scourge invasion)
Yeah, but idk. Since they lost Bilzzard North it could happen that way...but who knows? I just cant wait for it.
Parallel truth, awaken in translucence
Sealed by this deadened song
Sinking in toneless comatose
Come and tear my skin, fear what's within
Its massive darkness filling my world
Submerged rage writing unspoken words
Parallel truth, awaken in translucence
Sealed by this deadened song
Sinking in toneless comatose
Come and tear my skin, fear what's within
Its massive darkness filling my world
Submerged rage writing unspoken words
so think about that in the diablo universe. after so many people do a certain quest say ur nearing diablo. all of a sudden the skies go red and black and monsters are always coming from every direction (except in town) now there is a guild thing. or kinda like a raid as in WoW. ooo or wut if u could raid in diablo LoL
Oh, Baron Carloseus lead the way to our victory. If we fail we may rise again stronger. The Slayers will find the way.
and i was wondering when we'll disagree again
Still my point is that Blizzard usually carries the name of each series with the exact same of game. See, Warcraft 1, 2 and 3 were RTS. The MMO they made in this universe isnt Warcraft 4. Its World of Warcraft
Getting my point now?
to that we agree very much, and i think a possible Diablo MMO would get more mature people in it and eventually be more fun for me (talking about myself mainly) since i'm a big fan of that particular franchise. But it still wouldnt be called Diablo 3
Parallel truth, awaken in translucence
Sealed by this deadened song
Sinking in toneless comatose
Come and tear my skin, fear what's within
Its massive darkness filling my world
Submerged rage writing unspoken words
It's kind of a balance act. THe company will generally want to preserve their story in the way they want. It makes it all more predictable, and less costly.For example, let's say the whole game starts with a war. If it is left to the players, the company won't know which side will win, and will have to develop two storylines simoultaneously, only to throw one out when they know who is winning. Otherwise they don't have anything done when the war ends, and players get mad and leave. And if they only develop one storyline from the beginning, only to realise that the "wrong" side won, and then try to altere the story so that indeed the other side won, players will also get mad.
Plus, it isn't very fun to read of the hero ArraGorN2000 who saved the world. I wouldn't at least.
New weapons (so far)
Whip (Monster Tamer's weapon only)
Wooden Staff (Fighter's weapon only)
Malet
Short Blade
Blade
Character Skills
Since the demo/alpha was recalled, all information was from contact.
Chronomancer-
Slow Time-for a duration of time, you can slow down time increasing atk and atk rating
Reincarnation-after a monster has been slained, you rewind time for them to be alive again infecting their mind to fight by your side.
Age-Speed up the clock to decrease your enemes def, atk and health
Time Warp-Open a drift in time to relocate yourself (teleport)
Monster Tamer-
Control-Control a monster to fight for you for a duration
Terror Whip-Enchant your whip to scare monsters for a duration
Sonic Whip-Enchant your whip to increase atk speed for a duration
Glare-Stun your enemies
Templar-
Weapons Mastery (All of them)
Power of Ares-increased atk, def, and atk rating for a duration
Blessed Arms-Enchant your weapons for increase of damage, critical strike and chance for deadly wounds
Curses
Decay-decay the flesh of your enemies decreasing def and health
Plague-poison your enemies
Warlock-
Rock Wall-create a wall of rock for a duration of time. No life on rock wall like how bone wall is
Sandstorm-create a wall of sand forward that damages and decreases atk rating
Earthquake-create an earthquake that destroys enemies (powerful skill)
Void-Open a void in the earth to swallow you enemies
Fighter-
Fighting Stance-Increase def rating for a duration
Multi Punch-Attack target multiple times
Counter-passive, chance to avoid atk
Fearless-Increase atk rating but decreases def
Fist of Flame-adds fire to your attack
Quests
The story begins when Cain had fears of the outcome of the destruction of the world stone. Everyone agrees with Cain and requests you to find their long lost captain, Honto. Tyreal appears in the city as well for support.
1. Recover Arms-Search through the Icy Plateau (New area) for barbarian captain (Honto) to gain strength back. Honto then brings back a new merc. . .barb with ww and they weild a giant axe.
Honto tells everyone that there is going to be an invasion opun the city.
2. The Wake-The invasion has already begun. Honto has requested you to destroy a group of monsters that plan to strike first. A unique monster called Thatlicor (undead reanimate) is surrounded by tons of reanimate's and they actually move to the city walls!
After destroying the group, Tyreal tells you that his choice to destroy the world stone wasn't his . . . The evil in the cave influenced him to destroy it. You then talk to Cain. He tells you more about what Tyreal has done. You then talk to Tyreal again and he tells you to go find the ancient artifact known as the Harali Stone. The Harali Stone was the artifact that help create the soul and world stones.
3. Harali Stone-You search for the Harali Stone in a portal he opens to that leads to Khanduras. You enter the portal and find Khanduras in ruins. Bodies everywhere, houses on fire, the whole nine yards. You go and destroy the monster who have done this and retrieve back the Harali Stone from the unique.
You return to the city and give the Harali Stone to Tyreal. Tyreal starts acting strange, then he disappears. You talk to cain and he tells you that Tyreal has Baal's soul stone with him.
4. (Don't remember the name of this quest)-You seek out Tyreal in the ancient way and found him to corrupt the three ancients. They come to life and combat you once again.
My contact cannot remember the last four quests but to put in a vague way, you seek Tyreal out and eventually find him in the world stone chamber recreating a new evil stone for the soul purpose of bringing hell to the gates of mankind. He then disappears. You go back to the city and fight off a crap load of monsters that are invading the city. After you kill the super unique (immune to physical and is cold immune) the invasion stops. Cain tells you that you must track down Tyreal and stop him. Cain fears that with the Harali Stone he will attempt to recreate the soul stones and free the other evils.
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now we can discuss it. slow month here we need something to do
dont really like the idea of a chronomancer. Templar sounds cool. it is as i predicted (assuming that it is fact) a more religious type char. it is about time for a game about heaven and hell the lack of religious chars was rather strange, almost to the point of annoyance, i like relgious chars they are so cool. (DND has a whole host of these chars but i suppose that is because there is a whole lot of gods to follow)
Wooden staff??? Malet??? Short Blade??? Arnt they already weapons in D2?
Whip I must say is believable. Dedicating a whole class to it is believable as well. Just look at the Assasin and katars...
All the classes are believable except one. The Chronomancer. I have a hard time seeing how slowing down time would work in multiplay. The only way I can see it is, in that perticular zone, the time is slowed. Or, if it is like a necromancers curse, where only the targeted area is slown down.
Class Comparison
Chronomancer = Necromancer/Sorceress Hybrid
Monster Tamer = Necromancer/Assasin Hybrid
Templar = Paladin/Barbarian/Necro Curses Hybrid
Warlock = Druid/Sorceress Hybrid
Fighter = Barbarian/Assasin Hybrid
With everything I have witnessed, I am going to give all the information so far a truth rating of...
5/10
The crap about loading characters and the potion animation, along with the story and the chronomancer makes me believe this is all a bunch of shit. However, some stuff makes sense. But its nothing any one of us couldnt of come up with and faked.
thats my thoughts too, usually you just have one or two spells that affect time not 30 or so.
-time stop: bring time virtually to a stop, for you enemies not you
-slow time: slows time
and i suppose there would be a spell that speeds up time but thats about it.