On the last part ur partially right. Blizzard wants to make money. Thats why they added the armor upgrade quests, the mostly soloable quest chain that only requires few hours gaming/day to complete. But check the really big patches in the past. Molten Core, Blackwing Lair, Ahn Qiraj and Naxxramas. To do these instances u needed to be in the top guilds of ur server at that time. And these guilds take only the most hardcore players around.
So I was right because I said that they wouldn't aim directly at hardcore gamers. (meaning they would aim at everyone because it's a commercial game, but more at the casual gamer.)
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I don't really think blizzard would aim WoW at hardcore gamers directly, they want money, and the majority of gamers ain't hardcore. They aimed the game at anyone
And these guilds take only the most hardcore players around.
I was in the top guild of my server, and they we're doing instance after instance everyday and if you werent a hardcore gamer they didn't care, all they wanted was to get the loot.
Well anyway I don't want to argue, I think the MMORPG system is flawed, and you don't, it's all a matter of opinion. There's no point in me replying to this thread anymore, because I've disputed my point. Thanks for the convo.
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ehm mmorpg will ruin the series completely in any way me as a diablo player have never payed in a month or in a year and i'm very glad that blizzard hasn't added p2p to the diablo games:)
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this happened when i first tried wow i played it for one day and i quit.
I got to lvl 4
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No you didn't, you said it was easy to get to lvl 60 without any helps.
Questing isnt a real help. And being in a group with people (that you most likely dont know while lvling) isnt a help too. U got to work with people. Prolly ur server/guild sucked if they only went there for the loots. I happen to be in the most advanced guild of my server too and we always jump in the new instances for the fun of the kill (we always aim for server first too, ofc). Spending hours to do so is required (hardcore part). The "casual" content and the 5 man instances are for those who dont have much time to spend on the game.
I'd like u to reply if u got something better to say about it. But every MMO is aiming for people with money and time to spend in there. Those who dont shouldnt bother playing imo.
I didn't bother to read the other posts but I'll post mine neways. (It's been a while) Just because they make it pay to play (yes it's shitty) doesn't mean they'll make it a MMORPG. They wouldn't screw fans over like that. They might make Diablo 3 and than branch of into WOD or something like that but Pay to play doesn't really bother me, just as long as it's not MMORPG.
and by pay to play D3 you mean only for multiplayer, right? cause it wouldnt make sense for that in single.
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----------------------- "What man, anywhere under Heaven's high arch, has fought in such darkness, endured more misery or been harder pressed?" -Beowulf
and by pay to play D3 you mean only for multiplayer, right? cause it wouldnt make sense for that in single.
OMG people. I am sick and tired of people who think that the future games of diablo and starcraft will be like the "good old days". You see what they did to warcraft. THEY ARE NOT GONNA MAKE SOME SHITTY 2D GAME. Multiplayer leads to more interaction with others which increases the fun. (Who plays CSS with only bots?). Diablo 3 isn't comming out anytime soon... The first announcement will probably be at blizzcon in the form of a CG trailer. Nothing else. Then they will slowly leak certain aspects of the game till ofcourse that one big interview where they tell all. It has been a long time since diablo 2... Things WILL change drastically. And ofcourse the ones that complain that its not hardcore need to get their heads out of their asses and look at EVERY game. They progress... not regress... Some people still think cs1.6 is so awesome and leet and hardcore and think that makes them a badass... no kiddies... you just suck at CSS looking for an excuse...
So in conclusion... YES everyone is entitled to their opinion and likes and dislikes... I'm not gonna tell you not to hate diablo 3 when it comes out, but just don't make assumptions that you will <3
Blizzard isnt over with single player games (with multiplayer options) yet. And ofc they wont throw in competition for their other games. Warcraft series isnt over. They'll most likely make a Warcraft 4 sooner or later (Metzen mentioned something about it). Diablo series and Starcraft too. I wouldnt expect a MMO from these franchises yet, even though i wouldnt mind one.
well unwritten sp in any game sucks
mp is more fun;)
but though u better start sp if u want to get used and know how to play the game^^
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Um i only have one thing to say if you have to pay for D3 then it will truelly not be d3. the diablo series is a free online series and it needs to stay that way. In other words i dont care if its got free copies of the paris hilton sex tapes on it if you have to pay for D3 online play after you by the game i wont buy it.
D3 is Diablo so long as the "feel" is still intact, and if they can preserve that through an MMO, then they most certainly will.
I think we can be pretty sure though that D3 will not be an MMO.
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i think personally, since in the end diablo becomes a heavy pvpers dream, with not many class imbalances AT ALL such as a warlock in WoW and theres alot of custimization, they should just polish it a little. such as a friends list that is very easy to use, 16 people per game or like 20,.. idk more then 8 lol organized in game guild, more item graphics and the ability to respend your skillpoints, and maybe a little more group effort instead of stacked mf soloing on hell, so u do have to play with other people a little more... just my 2 cents lol feel very free to disagree
No you didn't, you said it was easy to get to lvl 60 without any helps.
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So I was right because I said that they wouldn't aim directly at hardcore gamers. (meaning they would aim at everyone because it's a commercial game, but more at the casual gamer.)
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I was in the top guild of my server, and they we're doing instance after instance everyday and if you werent a hardcore gamer they didn't care, all they wanted was to get the loot.
Well anyway I don't want to argue, I think the MMORPG system is flawed, and you don't, it's all a matter of opinion. There's no point in me replying to this thread anymore, because I've disputed my point. Thanks for the convo.
Diablo - The first game i ever played for the PC in 1997.
Diablo 2 - The first online game i ever played in 2001.
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I got to lvl 4
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Questing isnt a real help. And being in a group with people (that you most likely dont know while lvling) isnt a help too. U got to work with people. Prolly ur server/guild sucked if they only went there for the loots. I happen to be in the most advanced guild of my server too and we always jump in the new instances for the fun of the kill (we always aim for server first too, ofc). Spending hours to do so is required (hardcore part). The "casual" content and the 5 man instances are for those who dont have much time to spend on the game.
I'd like u to reply if u got something better to say about it. But every MMO is aiming for people with money and time to spend in there. Those who dont shouldnt bother playing imo.
Diablo - The first game i ever played for the PC in 1997.
Diablo 2 - The first online game i ever played in 2001.
"What man, anywhere under Heaven's high arch, has fought in such darkness, endured more misery or been harder pressed?"
-Beowulf
OMG people. I am sick and tired of people who think that the future games of diablo and starcraft will be like the "good old days". You see what they did to warcraft. THEY ARE NOT GONNA MAKE SOME SHITTY 2D GAME. Multiplayer leads to more interaction with others which increases the fun. (Who plays CSS with only bots?). Diablo 3 isn't comming out anytime soon... The first announcement will probably be at blizzcon in the form of a CG trailer. Nothing else. Then they will slowly leak certain aspects of the game till ofcourse that one big interview where they tell all. It has been a long time since diablo 2... Things WILL change drastically. And ofcourse the ones that complain that its not hardcore need to get their heads out of their asses and look at EVERY game. They progress... not regress... Some people still think cs1.6 is so awesome and leet and hardcore and think that makes them a badass... no kiddies... you just suck at CSS looking for an excuse...
So in conclusion... YES everyone is entitled to their opinion and likes and dislikes... I'm not gonna tell you not to hate diablo 3 when it comes out, but just don't make assumptions that you will <3
mp is more fun;)
but though u better start sp if u want to get used and know how to play the game^^
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I think we can be pretty sure though that D3 will not be an MMO.
WoW was fun, for about a month. After that I just got bored, couldn't play anymore, and now I don't.
If a "World of Diablo" came out, I would be kinda upset, and keep playing D2.
WoW is peaked at 9.3 million subs.. and STILL increasing.
Your term is 110% incorrect.. WoW is still growing.
Good luck though.