Hey, I keep seeing posts from new players about what to do in Diablo after you beat the campaign, and thought I had some good (opinionated) advice. So I wrote up an article about it. Hopefully new players will find it useful. It talks about setting good goals and how to gear up!
This is completely unfortunately unfocused. You don't answer the questions you pose.
e.g. Level to 70 is how you get more gear. Huh?
Why are you telling people about Hardcore? Your audience is supposed to be the guy who just finished the campaign. Creating a new character is what you do next?
This whole thing is pretty bad IMO. If you are going to write something, write something better. A bunch of shorter articles focusing on specific concepts would be better than just throwing a list of things to try out.
Thank you for the feedback CrayZ1430, I'm sorry you did not like it. I will definitely take your feedback into consideration.
I answer the gearing question right after talking about goals, hardcore and seasons. I think people should hear about those options more before investing further in the game. Especially seasons, because the rewards are time sensitive, someone could miss out on something they want (like a specific pet) if they aren't told about it and just continue on their way.
I mentioned first get to 70, then I mention how to go about getting more gear.
But you're right it still feels a bit loose, perhaps as you say because it tries to tackle too much at once.
I got the feeling the whole point of your post, and in turn your "guide" was for click bait that leads readers to your little Pay-Pal button. Just my opinion. Sorry if this was not the case.
I really do think this guide is useful to new players, and I see players asking these questions literally every day. People seem genuinely lost at "what's the point now that I've beaten the campaign?" and "bounties, rifts, greater rifts, what should I be doing?" or "how do I gear up quickly?". Those are the kinds of questions I tried to answer to new players, as well as hopefully saving them from some of my own mistakes.
and nah, a donate button is not a source of clickbait. It should never offend you when someone feels the hours they spent on something might be worth a donation, even if you personally don't think it is worth the donation to you. If it was clickbait I would put a huge ad between every paragraph, that's trash.
If this was a youtube video I don't think you'd even blink, even though popular youtubers monetize through ad sharing on youtube and often just repost the information in other guides or just repeat the builds posted in diablofans. That's not to say that what they do is wrong, I think they provide an important service and all the time they put in should be rewarded. But I don't think a donate button is bad, especially since almost nobody donates.
I'm trying to wrap my head about one of these tips or whatever they're called
You say for new players not to do this
Complete a specific build / gear set
Make the gear or build the means to an end, not the goal itself. If you
don’t, you may not have a reason to play your powerful character
anymore.
But than a few lines later you say this
Complete a farming or joke build
Veteran players may find creating extra characters with specific farming
builds or even a joke build an enjoyable distracting from the main
game. New players however will just get frustrated that they don’t have a
powerful endgame character. Focus on power at first.
So you tell them not complete a certain build or set, but than tell them they need to focus on Power which comes from completing a build and set?
Based on my own experience playing diablo 3 these past few years, and people's "I'm bored now that I've completed my _XX_ character" I really think that when you set yourself a goal in the game like "I will complete the hammerdin Crusader build, that looks really cool"... after the long grind to complete the build, many players find that they don't have any motivation to keep playing.
They accomplished their goal, but what keeps them playing beyond that? I remember first starting out I made this mistake way back making the Blessed Shield build. Sure I completed it, but I didn't feel like playing my crusader anymore after finishing my goal. If instead I had said "Hey, I want to beat my record of 2-player GR 40 with my buddy", and getting the Blessed Shield build was just a milestone... then I still have something to do after I complete the build.
Does that make sense? I think setting longer term goals then just "finish this build" is really important. Maybe I didn't communicate the difference between a goal and the means to a goal enough.
Thanks for the feedback nitrosnwbdr. I plan to update the guide for Patch 2.4 so I'll definitely try to make that clearer.
I remember the one you did previously, that was a decent read with information that I'd consider useful. This new one has no content imo. Just some motivational speech, sorry.
"Attain the highest 2/3/4-player Greater Rift ranking with friends you can before the season ends, even if playing non-seasons."
...ahh ok, but then ....
"It is important to stop when you get tired of the game, or when it
starts to feel like too much of a chore. Don’t burn out, take a break,
go play something else, come back next season with the newest patch."
how u win against those "robocops" w/o 24/7 ?
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Hey, I keep seeing posts from new players about what to do in Diablo after you beat the campaign, and thought I had some good (opinionated) advice. So I wrote up an article about it. Hopefully new players will find it useful. It talks about setting good goals and how to gear up!
http://gaming.ofbeaton.com/2015/11/09/ask-myriam-diablo-3-2-3-after-the-campaign/
Feedback welcome as always!
This is completely unfortunately unfocused. You don't answer the questions you pose.
e.g. Level to 70 is how you get more gear. Huh?
Why are you telling people about Hardcore? Your audience is supposed to be the guy who just finished the campaign. Creating a new character is what you do next?
This whole thing is pretty bad IMO. If you are going to write something, write something better. A bunch of shorter articles focusing on specific concepts would be better than just throwing a list of things to try out.
Thank you for the feedback CrayZ1430, I'm sorry you did not like it. I will definitely take your feedback into consideration.
I answer the gearing question right after talking about goals, hardcore and seasons. I think people should hear about those options more before investing further in the game. Especially seasons, because the rewards are time sensitive, someone could miss out on something they want (like a specific pet) if they aren't told about it and just continue on their way.
I mentioned first get to 70, then I mention how to go about getting more gear.
But you're right it still feels a bit loose, perhaps as you say because it tries to tackle too much at once.
I got the feeling the whole point of your post, and in turn your "guide" was for click bait that leads readers to your little Pay-Pal button. Just my opinion. Sorry if this was not the case.
I really do think this guide is useful to new players, and I see players asking these questions literally every day. People seem genuinely lost at "what's the point now that I've beaten the campaign?" and "bounties, rifts, greater rifts, what should I be doing?" or "how do I gear up quickly?". Those are the kinds of questions I tried to answer to new players, as well as hopefully saving them from some of my own mistakes.
and nah, a donate button is not a source of clickbait. It should never offend you when someone feels the hours they spent on something might be worth a donation, even if you personally don't think it is worth the donation to you. If it was clickbait I would put a huge ad between every paragraph, that's trash.
If this was a youtube video I don't think you'd even blink, even though popular youtubers monetize through ad sharing on youtube and often just repost the information in other guides or just repeat the builds posted in diablofans. That's not to say that what they do is wrong, I think they provide an important service and all the time they put in should be rewarded. But I don't think a donate button is bad, especially since almost nobody donates.
I'm trying to wrap my head about one of these tips or whatever they're called
You say for new players not to do this
But than a few lines later you say this
So you tell them not complete a certain build or set, but than tell them they need to focus on Power which comes from completing a build and set?
Based on my own experience playing diablo 3 these past few years, and people's "I'm bored now that I've completed my _XX_ character" I really think that when you set yourself a goal in the game like "I will complete the hammerdin Crusader build, that looks really cool"... after the long grind to complete the build, many players find that they don't have any motivation to keep playing.
They accomplished their goal, but what keeps them playing beyond that? I remember first starting out I made this mistake way back making the Blessed Shield build. Sure I completed it, but I didn't feel like playing my crusader anymore after finishing my goal. If instead I had said "Hey, I want to beat my record of 2-player GR 40 with my buddy", and getting the Blessed Shield build was just a milestone... then I still have something to do after I complete the build.
Does that make sense? I think setting longer term goals then just "finish this build" is really important. Maybe I didn't communicate the difference between a goal and the means to a goal enough.
Thanks for the feedback nitrosnwbdr. I plan to update the guide for Patch 2.4 so I'll definitely try to make that clearer.
I remember the one you did previously, that was a decent read with information that I'd consider useful. This new one has no content imo. Just some motivational speech, sorry.
http://eu.battle.net/d3/en/profile/Sol77-2972/hero/66110450
"Attain the highest 2/3/4-player Greater Rift ranking with friends you can before the season ends, even if playing non-seasons."
...ahh ok, but then ....
"It is important to stop when you get tired of the game, or when it
starts to feel like too much of a chore. Don’t burn out, take a break,
go play something else, come back next season with the newest patch."
how u win against those "robocops" w/o 24/7 ?