I hate myself for coming back and checking on this thread but I find it amusing that people care more about the fact that I got banned than myself and are being so critical about the whole situation.
Guys, It's a video game period. If you are getting so worked up about the fact that there are exploits in D3 and that I "Cheated" then you seriously need to turn the computer off and get some fresh air. There's more to life than "Competitive D3" and the "integrity of D3".
Diablo 3 literally has ZERO competition.
With that said, as the discussion of this thread has reached 100+ responses (did not expect), I would like to add a few things.
1. PTR Testing
PTR 2.2 I played it very extensively, a lot of the changes of the PTR I didn't agree with but hey does Blizzard ever respond to community feedback by anyone? No, so I never really expect much from them and gave up on trying to provide good feedback to this team a long time ago.
I was not aware of the exploit during PTR, believe me if I knew about it I would've blown the lid on it much sooner.
2. Season 3
When patch 2.2 released and this is me being honest here (you can believe me or not) I seriously felt that it was a responsibility for me to play Season 3 as a Barbarian despite not wanting to play an extremely underpowered version of the character that I already extensively played on PTR.
Most of the pressure to continue into Season3 was the very fact that I was a "streamer" and streaming the game for my community who had been closely following my guides/information looking forward to the patch. In a sense I felt that it was my responsibility to these people to stream season 3 and update information that may be outdated now.
I honestly felt like it was becoming some sort of "chore" or "work" making sure to get my hours in on the stream and continue to answer questions and provide information to the community.
I am NOT a full-time streamer, this is NOT my occupation. I stream occasionally when I play the game and that's it.
Despite all that I streamed consistently in the mornings anyways and tried to make most of the situation and try to come up with new things to try to keep not only myself but my followers/viewers/community entertained.
Obviously I'm not going to stream daily and say this game sucks, I hate the patch changes and etc. every morning I streamed but there were definitely a few mornings where you can easily tell I was frustrated with the whole situation.
This is not the first time I quit Diablo3 and stopped streaming despite being a "popular d3 streamer". This just happens to be the only season that I was forced to quit before I quit myself, that is really the only difference to me.
Call it what you want, I'm a cheater/exploiter bla bla bla. Frankly I really could care less, I play this game when I want to play it and I stream it to people who want to watch it. To me it's just a video game and it just so happens that there are some people out there who really enjoy my perspective on this game.
If this game had any resemblance of a competitive scene and my actions would've hurt the community then I probably would've taken different actions and been more responsible as a "streamer" of the game. Frankly, D3 has none of these things and is just a ARPG where you kill things for amusement and will be nothing more than that with the approach that these devs are taking.
3. Quitting / Streaming
For those of you who actually follow my stream and content you were already quite aware that I was planning on quitting Season3 maybe a month or two into the season when it becomes extremely stagnant and there is literally nothing to do but 4 man XP farm and look for 0.0000001% drop chance items.
Not sure why it's hard for people to understand that I already had 0 plans of playing out the entire 4 month season and that I was already planning on quitting.
The banning of my account just happened to hasten the process and I've decided to just quit now, a week into the season.
I know a lot of you guys may watch people like datMODZ or Quin69 who are rolling in donations and seem like they are making all the monies via streaming D3.
Let me make something crystal clear for you guys, I literally make less than I would working at Mcdonalds on minimum wage when I stream Diablo 3 if not for a handful of people who continue to give donations for their owns reasons.
I rarely run ads, I don't beg for donations and I don't stream consistent long hours daily to keep my viewership high.
All in all, streaming/youtubing has never been an activity that I do for "profit" or "income" in any sense.
It was something I did for fun when I played games (particularly D3).
This is not to say streaming full time is a bad gig, there are a few kids out there making good money doing this as their full time job.
It's just not something that I saw myself doing from the start so never really paid much attention to it.
I do things like Youtube and what not to save myself time from answering the same question 500 times a day.
I've probably made about $500-600 with 1/3 of that being donations from my Youtube/Twitch the first week of S3.
Is this a lot of money for playing a video game? Different answers for different situations obviously.
Being a D3 streamer as your full-time job is probably one of the most tedious games to stream since you have to put in extraordinary amounts of time to stay relevant to the game, where-as in other games your actual skills or entertainment value as a person will be bigger factors resulting in less time consumed.
I always used to stream with the mentality that hey I'm playing the game anyways might as well make a few bucks out of it at the same time.
But that's only IF I was gonna play the game anyways and I'm genuinely enjoying the game I'm playing.
Both of which is not the case with D3 for me.
getting TL;DR and I'm not sure why I have to continue to repeat myself and justify my reasons for quitting or "cheating".
Does it really matter to any of you what I choose to do?
I'm just gonna play another game, probably Path of Exile Beta later today when it comes out.
If that game is fun, I'll continue to play it... if not I'll play something else or take a break from computer gaming...
Is this such a hard concept?
Honestly the fact of the matter is, if any of you or myself decided to delete everything related to D3 from our lives this exact moment it would probably be a healthy and productive thing overall for your actual lives... not the Role Playing lives we get addicted to inside D3.
I'm very tempted to just delete my dfans account after this post so I'm not tempted to come back in here and respond to the constant trolling plus there's also nothing more that needs to be said.
Well I come back to D3?
Like I said, maybe when the environment changes (new devs, new expac or something significant) and if there are any interesting PTRs I'm sure I'll mess around with it for a couple days on a burrowed account since the 2000% MF buff actually makes this game enjoyable to play.
Well I continue to make D3 guides/informational videos?
Most likely not, but it's not like there aren't 1000 other streamers/youtubers who are eager to take my place as the "barb/crus guy".
So, everyone keeps talking about how blizz knew about this during the PTR and did nothing about it, but can anyone post an actual link to a PTR post that mentions this? or maybe even a link to some high traffic forum somewhere that mentions it? I only see a flood of posts recently, none during the PTR time. The oldest thing i see on the forums mentioning any exploit is on 4/02 and that post doesnt even mention blood shards.
After 5 pages we now know the good players from the trash. Cant wait to troll them in the future
Yep, you're in the trash column. Your stupidity != trolling. Don't care if I get infracted for this, you are way beyond trying hard for attention. Big balls posting from an anonymous account. Sick of the bnet children. I think I like the gold spammers more than you.
Did you hit 100 para yet? Cool sig and avatar, looks like you spent more time on it than you d3 char.
"you seriously need to turn the computer off and get some fresh air. There's more to life than "Competitive D3" and the "integrity of D3".
Says the guy who streams 18 hours a day. Sorry, i just found your comment to be really hypocritcal.
Thanks for the time you took to produce quality content MC, one thing the gaming community in general needs is more people who aren't afraid of the truth, which may not be pleasing, politically correct or popular but the truth all the same. Blizzard and fanboys hate the truth, because the truth holds someone/something responsible for actions taken. Not a strong suit of the company in the slightest.
Your content provided that truth to a large extent, it is too bad that Blizzard feels the need to do as they do continually, which is shut out their customers and pander to idiots. After watching the stream and reading some of the responses in this thread to what you've shown/written this couldn't be more apparent.
Best of luck in the future mang.
P.S. Can't wait to see that fat cunt Wyatt shuck and jive at the end of the next ptr, that shit is more entertaining than actually playing the game.
My 2 cents as a working adult who plays a couple hours a day, as someone who has been playing Diablo since Diablo 2 when I was in middle school (obviously not continuously), and as someone who plays for leaderboards with friends I've been gaming with 5+ years and RL friends (not #1, but as high as we can with modest playing hours, no illusions of placing higher than high schoolers or unemployed folks with more time). No moral high horse here or nuthugging, just what I perceive to be facts and ethics I grew up with.
Cheating is cheating. I think the best analogy here is one with MMA. A sport where hardcore fans have known for years has a very high level of dopers. "everyone else is doing it," is simply an excuse and not a validation.
mannercookie is the reason I played a crusader season 1, switching from my longtime #1 class of monk. Now, back to my MMA analogy; Anderson silva is widely regarded as the best all time. He recently was caught doping. There are two camps on this: (1) it means everything he's done before should be taken from record books because maybe he's been cheating the whole time and (2) he just did it to recover from his injury this one fight and should only serve the punishment for the one fight. No matter what camp you fall under, we can agree he cheated and should face the repercussions of his actions. How this relates to mannercookie? He cheated. Plain and simple. There's no excuse. There's no validation. People cheat all around you in all aspects of life. Cheating to compete with cheaters is still cheating.
"integrity is doing the right thing when no one is looking." C.K. Lewis.
Well, apparently a lot of people here never played a ps1 with game shark :-)
I agree that D3 is not competitive at all, and if you're tired of repeating everything and find a code or something to make it more desirable to play just use it if you're having fun. If that is actually a cheat and you can get banned from the game because of that? It's your call.
Again this is a game, there is no money involved, only pride. The only prize you win achieving the top of the leader board is the right to brag about :-D
That's my opinion, you have the right to disagree, no need to argue, as it won't change my mind.
I played D2 a lot. I used to play a barbarian. IIRC, before LoD one could not re-roll skills, and I did some terrible choices with my char.
I didn't want to start from scratch, so I downloaded a trainer to create a new char with the correct skill choices.
But with the trainer in hand, me and my friends started theory crafting about different builds, until we finally decided to start creating over powered chars just to have fun fighting each other. We got all the best items of the game, made incredible builds, and kept fighting for quite some time. Then it all lost the fun.
When LoD came, we started playing again, no cheats. After a lot of play, we decided to try or luck online in pvp. We got owned so bad, it was hard to justify. After some tries we realized everyone we fought online was using trainers. Then we decided to give another try, and that was the only way to be competitive, as the cheating allowed people to have several times the maximum number of skill points.
We did have fun, for some time, until it was just pointless.
I don't know how was the competitive pvp scene without cheats in D2 as I was never able to find places where people were not using any, but I still had a good time playing it, until it was just pointless.
Was I a criminal for doing this? Well I don't think so. It was only a game, and it's not like I had killed a hardcore fair player.
Just to give some perspective.
I really do like the fact that now we cannot have those things anymore, but hey, again the only thing that was hurt by these cheats was people's pride.
I think I agree with you - this has served its purpose.
People have said what they wanted, some even bashed MC, and I've kinda left this untouched for the sake of freedom of speech. But I think the conversation has reached its "productive" limit. Thanks MC for handling it all without breaking the rules or flaming people, and for all the clarifications!
I'm going to lock this now. Feel free to give me feedback if you think it should be re-opened for some reason.