Now after waycry(res buffed), my stats is like 70k HP, 33k dps, 7.5k armor, 870 all res, 38% crit chance and 350%+ crit damage. And I'm a dw barb.
I found 20% of the elite packs really hard to defeat in later ACT III, for some affixes combos are utterly pain in the ass. For example, when you have a champion followed by 5 minons with arcane enchant+frozen+nightmarish, that's 6 mobs which can make the arcane full of your screen, and you will be nightmarish all the time without even a break, frozen orbs are more than imaginations and you just have to keep falling back or you would get yourself chain-frozen without a chance to run out. Sometimes it's not easy to fall back because you will be feared to run blindly most time and this would easily get yourself killed.
OK, I was spewing my hate. But to be honest, is there any dw barb who can say that " Oh there is no pressure for me in ACT III, at least I don't have problems with 95% of the elite packs in the later ACT III" ?
I saw some barbs with the same stats as me mentioned that they could do ACT III very efficiently. From what I saw, in ACT III I spent half time playing in the dungeon, and you can't skip an elite most time while you are in a dungeon. That means when there is an elite pack you can't kill, you have to restart your game, and you lose your valor buff. And I see no efficiency on this especially when I can't kill more than 20% of the elite packs.
So is there anything I'm doing wrong? I'm really confused with my barb now because I don't even find a way to upgrade him due to the high price of gear in AH.
EDIT: OK guys, thanks for the advice! I have sacrificed some of my vit and replace it with str. My stat is 62k HP and 38K DPS atm. What is most important is that I replaced the rage battle rage skill with the IP skill with life steal rune. I also selected insanity rune for my WOTB skill. With all these swaps ( hardly to say an upgrade), I can deal with all the elite packs in A3 now and killing Azmodan with 5 stacks of buff becomes easy for me. Thanks again guys!
is there any dw barb who can say that " Oh there is no pressure for me in ACT III, at least I don't have problems with 95% of the elite packs in the later ACT III"
Do you have like no life on hit or something? i have 53k hp 20k dps 750-800 resist 42%crit 250% crit dmg and 2.2k life on hit and i do fine only die if i mess up or like dont have berserker for those cc packs.
But what is STR for? Armor or DPS? My DPS currently is 33k and I don't think it's insufficient for A3. Instead I tried your way of high DPS low Hp and it proved that low Hp still is a problem on survivability. With 50k Hp you can easily get killed and revenge won't do enough help.
Do you have like no life on hit or something? i have 53k hp 20k dps 750-800 resist 42%crit 250% crit dmg and 2.2k life on hit and i do fine only die if i mess up or like dont have berserker for those cc packs.
I have no LOH. But before 1.0.3 I had around 1200 LOH and it was not so helpful. The life on hit wouldn't offset the life you lose when you deal with those high-dam elite packs. Therefore I decided not to rely on LOH any more.
Listen I am using almost exact same skill build. Just remove battle rage and add ignore pain (either with +duration or +life steal)
I currently have 0 LOH and like 2.3% life steal which is nothing.
35k damage, 50k health, 600-800 resistances
I clear full act3 without huge troubles.
That's it. I haven't trusted that the LOH could really provide timely help when I'm encountered with real dangerous mobs.
I will try you guys advice, stack more str instead of hp, and see where I will go.
I just want to point out that without Wotb, 80% of the champs in act 3 are impossible. The immunity to CC effects is just too awesome to give up. Unless you got a really good gear then you can do whatever you want. But yeah.
I just want to point out that without Wotb, 80% of the champs in act 3 are impossible. The immunity to CC effects is just too awesome to give up. Unless you got a really good gear then you can do whatever you want. But yeah.
That's true. Without godly gear, DW barbs have to rely too much on WoTB.
Swap your Thrive on Chaos rune on the Berserker to Insanity.
There's no point taking Thrive on Chaos when you use only Frenzy and no fury dumping skills. It only gains duration on NEW fury you gain, not when you keep yourself at 100 fury.
Use your new double dps berserker to zerg down elites before they can kill you, and clean up the 1-3 that's left.
Ignore Pain is not a bad choice to swap in for Battle Rage, I use it a lot. But you might have more survivability with Dreadnought Charge, or even Overpower with the healing rune. It resets it's cooldown on crits so you can heal a pretty solid amount with that crit rating.
Make some friends imo. I do Act 3 with usually a wizard or DH and a monk. I run around with 15k dps 800 resistance 40k life and 1k life on hit and have no problems at all. The monk does the majority of the "tanking" of the mobs and I usually just stand behind him and dps or kite 1 or 2 away while I wait for cds. Its very easy we have had no problems. Right now we are only doing Act 1 since its been said Act 3 loots is bugged.
Game sucks to play solo Idk how you people do it. Its so much fun with a grp.
Either get a high end shield OR get ignore pain, tough as nails and superstition... both options will drop your dps a little bit but significantly improve your survivability.
OK guys, thanks for the advice! I have sacrificed some of my vit and replace it with str. My stat is 62k HP and 38K DPS atm. What is most important is that I replaced the rage battle rage skill with the IP skill with life steal rune. I also selected insanity rune for my WOTB skill. With all these swaps ( hardly to say an upgrade), I can deal with all the elite packs in A3 now and killing Azmodan with 5 stacks of buff becomes easy for me. Thanks again guys! You are great!
Right now we are only doing Act 1 since its been said Act 3 loots is bugged.
Just to mention - in Act 2 i'm getting 2ce more 63ish items then in Act 3. Really messed up drop rates, had to give up on act 3 farming after 3 evenings of getting nothing worthy.
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I found 20% of the elite packs really hard to defeat in later ACT III, for some affixes combos are utterly pain in the ass. For example, when you have a champion followed by 5 minons with arcane enchant+frozen+nightmarish, that's 6 mobs which can make the arcane full of your screen, and you will be nightmarish all the time without even a break, frozen orbs are more than imaginations and you just have to keep falling back or you would get yourself chain-frozen without a chance to run out. Sometimes it's not easy to fall back because you will be feared to run blindly most time and this would easily get yourself killed.
OK, I was spewing my hate. But to be honest, is there any dw barb who can say that " Oh there is no pressure for me in ACT III, at least I don't have problems with 95% of the elite packs in the later ACT III" ?
I saw some barbs with the same stats as me mentioned that they could do ACT III very efficiently. From what I saw, in ACT III I spent half time playing in the dungeon, and you can't skip an elite most time while you are in a dungeon. That means when there is an elite pack you can't kill, you have to restart your game, and you lose your valor buff. And I see no efficiency on this especially when I can't kill more than 20% of the elite packs.
My current build: http://us.battle.net...XkVi!bZY!acaccY
So is there anything I'm doing wrong? I'm really confused with my barb now because I don't even find a way to upgrade him due to the high price of gear in AH.
EDIT: OK guys, thanks for the advice! I have sacrificed some of my vit and replace it with str. My stat is 62k HP and 38K DPS atm. What is most important is that I replaced the rage battle rage skill with the IP skill with life steal rune. I also selected insanity rune for my WOTB skill. With all these swaps ( hardly to say an upgrade), I can deal with all the elite packs in A3 now and killing Azmodan with 5 stacks of buff becomes easy for me. Thanks again guys!
Lose some vit for STR.
Replace battle rage with IP and that's it.
I have no LOH. But before 1.0.3 I had around 1200 LOH and it was not so helpful. The life on hit wouldn't offset the life you lose when you deal with those high-dam elite packs. Therefore I decided not to rely on LOH any more.
Pop WoTB, zerg pack, loot, wait for your CDs, rince and repeat.
A dead mob cannot harm you.
Still wondering what weapons you're using with 35+% crit and so much crit dmg for such lowish dps.
It is a dps issue. I remember trying to farm act 3 with ~35k and it wasn't going smoothly.
As I mentioned I devoted very much into my HP. So perhaps I'm lack of str.
My weapons are two maces. One is 813 dps with 140str/120vit/81crit, the other is 636 dps with 111str/161vit/160crit(a gem socketed).
At last it's a dps issue?
That's it. I haven't trusted that the LOH could really provide timely help when I'm encountered with real dangerous mobs.
I will try you guys advice, stack more str instead of hp, and see where I will go.
You should try the insanity rune with WoTB, and ignore pain + iron hide.
Swap your Thrive on Chaos rune on the Berserker to Insanity.
There's no point taking Thrive on Chaos when you use only Frenzy and no fury dumping skills. It only gains duration on NEW fury you gain, not when you keep yourself at 100 fury.
Use your new double dps berserker to zerg down elites before they can kill you, and clean up the 1-3 that's left.
Ignore Pain is not a bad choice to swap in for Battle Rage, I use it a lot. But you might have more survivability with Dreadnought Charge, or even Overpower with the healing rune. It resets it's cooldown on crits so you can heal a pretty solid amount with that crit rating.
Game sucks to play solo Idk how you people do it. Its so much fun with a grp.
Just to mention - in Act 2 i'm getting 2ce more 63ish items then in Act 3. Really messed up drop rates, had to give up on act 3 farming after 3 evenings of getting nothing worthy.